@ION team:
you did not translate your wallet properly to all available laguages, if translation is not ready, maybe you should force english as long as you do not translate?
Here is just an example:
Topic: [ANN] ION [ION] | POS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! - page 411. (Read 473154 times)
May 21, 2016, 10:18:21 AM
So far I understood everything that you've written in your last statement, I fully agree with you.
@ION team:
you did not translate your wallet properly to all available laguages, if translation is not ready, maybe you should force english as long as you do not translate?
Here is just an example:
@ION team:
you did not translate your wallet properly to all available laguages, if translation is not ready, maybe you should force english as long as you do not translate?
Here is just an example:
May 21, 2016, 09:47:38 AM
You dont need to aprove google apps, you can offer them outside of google play too. It does not measure on their success currently which is to be seen as success as they got again bunch of money.
What if they bring out only browser games which do not need to be installed? Why should they need an approval from google or apple?
Do you know what it needs to get approved? It is not that hard to bring an game out and list it on google play and apples app store. Bringing them on google play and apples store would not encourage me at all to invest, it still does not say anything about their success. We even do not know which games they want to bring out and who are target groups? I strongly assume that female world is their target, but what do I know
, better wait for them to tell who their target group for games mainly is.
What if they bring out only browser games which do not need to be installed? Why should they need an approval from google or apple?
Do you know what it needs to get approved? It is not that hard to bring an game out and list it on google play and apples app store. Bringing them on google play and apples store would not encourage me at all to invest, it still does not say anything about their success. We even do not know which games they want to bring out and who are target groups? I strongly assume that female world is their target, but what do I know
, better wait for them to tell who their target group for games mainly is."Forecasts for mobile gaming growth are nearly exponential. Mobile gaming revenue topped $27 billion USD in 2015 and is expected to double by 2019. The United States, China, and Japan are currently the largest mobile app markets, for a combined total of $17 billion USD in revenue in 2015.
Growth in emerging markets and Europe will continue to contribute to the rapid expansion of mobile gaming."
"Gamers on mobile devices are some of the most active and engaged of any user base. Among mobile gamers, over half play daily, for at least an hour a day. Gaming accounts for half of all smartphones usage and a quarter of tablet usage."
"Mobile gaming revenue is projected to top $45 billion in 2018. The majority of mobile gamers are over 35. 52% of gamers over 35 are women. This age group alone spends an average of $6.51 per month on in-app purchases.
The average amount spent on mobile in-app purchases is expected to continue growing for the foreseeable future. If ionomy gets even a fraction of the market share, projections for the business model look great."
Gee, I wonder why we are more concerned with mobile games and how they are going to do in-app purchases that whatever stuff you are making up. They're stated goal is to somehow grow the value of the coin via getting part of the market of in app purchases in mobile game.
For this coin to be a good investment there needs to be a reason for people to buy the coin. The stated reason team ionomy has given that people would want to buy the coin has something to do with in app purchases on mobile games, so in order to figure out if there is a reason to buy the coin, we need to figure out if their stated goal is possible. That's what people do when they are deciding if an investment is good or bad.
May 21, 2016, 08:11:20 AM
You dont need to aprove google apps, you can offer them outside of google play too. It does not measure on their success currently which is to be seen as success as they got again bunch of money.
What if they bring out only browser games which do not need to be installed? Why should they need an approval from google or apple?
Do you know what it needs to get approved? It is not that hard to bring an game out and list it on google play and apples app store. Bringing them on google play and apples store would not encourage me at all to invest, it still does not say anything about their success. We even do not know which games they want to bring out and who are target groups? I strongly assume that female world is their target, but what do I know , better wait for them to tell who their target group for games mainly is.
What if they bring out only browser games which do not need to be installed? Why should they need an approval from google or apple?
Do you know what it needs to get approved? It is not that hard to bring an game out and list it on google play and apples app store. Bringing them on google play and apples store would not encourage me at all to invest, it still does not say anything about their success. We even do not know which games they want to bring out and who are target groups? I strongly assume that female world is their target, but what do I know
, better wait for them to tell who their target group for games mainly is. May 21, 2016, 08:03:07 AM
Korvas, rdewilde, anyone else on the inside. Has there been any more clarification on how they will work with Google play to accept payment in game besides "amazon does it?"
No. From what I remember IOS was more of a problem than Android. But no detailed description was given. Most guess that the ingame incentive will not be crypto (but for example the non-crypto token called Electrons) which can be used to boost staking on the IONs thru ionomy platform. Indirectly it means that ingame earned/bought tokens would be converted from/to ION capital thru staking. Not a single official detailled source about this yet though
To tell everyone now how they would implement the payment element in gaming would be commercial stupidity. At this stage showing intent is enough. If the ION team turned round today and said this is how we'll implement then
a) you've given away a competitive advantage
b) you set yourself up for someone to screw you
The best thing to do is go ahead and implement then discuss the merits or failings later. Today if you think the implementation has no chance then it's simple don't invest.
You need a little bit more than intent to make a good investment. Would you give me money if I said I intend to build a gambling app for iphones without explaining at least a little bit how I would get through all of the regulatory hoops? Would saying "pokerstars does real money gaming in NJ" be enough? Wouldn't you have at least one followup question? If not 100?
I assume you moved from "scam" to good investment, slowly, let's figure out if it is scam or not and what it has to do on bitcointalk, I assume because of the blockchain tech. Like stated before, lets talk about the code first. If it is not an scam, it still might be an bad investment, do you agree?
I am not going to look into the code itself because there are a bunch of issues to get into before we get into the nitty gritty of the code. The code could be perfect, the code could have 1 million bugs, if google and apple won't approve the apps the whole thing is useless.
May 21, 2016, 08:01:09 AM
Korvas, rdewilde, anyone else on the inside. Has there been any more clarification on how they will work with Google play to accept payment in game besides "amazon does it?"
No. From what I remember IOS was more of a problem than Android. But no detailed description was given. Most guess that the ingame incentive will not be crypto (but for example the non-crypto token called Electrons) which can be used to boost staking on the IONs thru ionomy platform. Indirectly it means that ingame earned/bought tokens would be converted from/to ION capital thru staking. Not a single official detailled source about this yet though
To tell everyone now how they would implement the payment element in gaming would be commercial stupidity. At this stage showing intent is enough. If the ION team turned round today and said this is how we'll implement then
a) you've given away a competitive advantage
b) you set yourself up for someone to screw you
The best thing to do is go ahead and implement then discuss the merits or failings later. Today if you think the implementation has no chance then it's simple don't invest.
You need a little bit more than intent to make a good investment. Would you give me money if I said I intend to build a gambling app for iphones without explaining at least a little bit how I would get through all of the regulatory hoops? Would saying "pokerstars does real money gaming in NJ" be enough? Wouldn't you have at least one followup question? If not 100?
I assume you moved from "scam" to good investment, slowly, let's figure out if it is scam or not and what it has to do on bitcointalk, I assume because of the blockchain tech. Like stated before, lets talk about the code first. If it is not an scam, it still might be an bad investment, do you agree?
May 21, 2016, 07:45:11 AM
Korvas, rdewilde, anyone else on the inside. Has there been any more clarification on how they will work with Google play to accept payment in game besides "amazon does it?"
No. From what I remember IOS was more of a problem than Android. But no detailed description was given. Most guess that the ingame incentive will not be crypto (but for example the non-crypto token called Electrons) which can be used to boost staking on the IONs thru ionomy platform. Indirectly it means that ingame earned/bought tokens would be converted from/to ION capital thru staking. Not a single official detailled source about this yet though
To tell everyone now how they would implement the payment element in gaming would be commercial stupidity. At this stage showing intent is enough. If the ION team turned round today and said this is how we'll implement then
a) you've given away a competitive advantage
b) you set yourself up for someone to screw you
The best thing to do is go ahead and implement then discuss the merits or failings later. Today if you think the implementation has no chance then it's simple don't invest.
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You need a little bit more than intent to make a good investment. Would you give me money if I said I intend to build a gambling app for iphones without explaining at least a little bit how I would get through all of the regulatory hoops? Would saying "pokerstars does real money gaming in NJ" be enough? Wouldn't you have at least one followup question? If not 100?
May 21, 2016, 06:44:17 AM
Yes, I would like someone from the ION team to legitimately answer some questions. How about Ionomy, the user that started the thread? Any chance he could answer on an official stance. I'm not digging to uncover anything. I am genuinely interested in the gaming aspect of it. If they do things right it really does have potential. It's an interesting concept but all based on the execution of a team that stays quiet. Just because I own zero ION doesn't mean I want it to fail. But I also don't want to see hazardous mistakes happen either.
If the whole game and gaming aspect of the project was more clear I would consider buying a handful to see how it all works. But with vague information, I don't want to throw away good money. Even though it's only a few bucks, it's the principal of it all.
Korvas, I do appreciate you answering what you could, thank you.
If the whole game and gaming aspect of the project was more clear I would consider buying a handful to see how it all works. But with vague information, I don't want to throw away good money. Even though it's only a few bucks, it's the principal of it all.
Korvas, I do appreciate you answering what you could, thank you.
This is the reason why I asked not to harras people. I want them to come over and reply all questions before it's too late if they are an scam. Adam and co. do not want to come over and stated it multiple times that they do not feel any need to come over and explain anything if the only purpose will be bashing on them and going offtopic. So far he was right, we have 89 reasonable pages for them not to come and reply, it would be just not professional to take an part on some bashing discussion.
So far we are not doing great as they are still not here, we passed ICO and we discuss with each other, even more, we get into useless conflicts with each other.
I am very interrested in gaming part as well because they come from gaming world, but currently I am mainly interested in their code part as long as nobody of them comes. Coding part are facts for us, business model discussion is just an assumption.
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I believe the game boki15 is talking about is telephone
Exactly, it is telephone, thanks, I did not know how it is called in english.
May 21, 2016, 06:37:43 AM
Yes, I would like someone from the ION team to legitimately answer some questions. How about Ionomy, the user that started the thread? Any chance he could answer on an official stance. I'm not digging to uncover anything. I am genuinely interested in the gaming aspect of it. If they do things right it really does have potential. It's an interesting concept but all based on the execution of a team that stays quiet. Just because I own zero ION doesn't mean I want it to fail. But I also don't want to see hazardous mistakes happen either.
If the whole game and gaming aspect of the project was more clear I would consider buying a handful to see how it all works. But with vague information, I don't want to throw away good money. Even though it's only a few bucks, it's the principal of it all.
Korvas, I do appreciate you answering what you could, thank you.
And rdwilde just directly copy and pastes the questions and answers to and from so there is not lost in translation effect. But I see what could happen if it done other ways. I believe the game boki15 is talking about is telephone.
If the whole game and gaming aspect of the project was more clear I would consider buying a handful to see how it all works. But with vague information, I don't want to throw away good money. Even though it's only a few bucks, it's the principal of it all.
Korvas, I do appreciate you answering what you could, thank you.
And rdwilde just directly copy and pastes the questions and answers to and from so there is not lost in translation effect. But I see what could happen if it done other ways. I believe the game boki15 is talking about is telephone.
May 21, 2016, 06:23:58 AM
I dont agree with you cryptobuds. For me Adam is not the same like ganza and ion is not the same like paycoin, if you want to point out how similar they are, please provide code comparrison.
They are an company and by all meaning, they do not need to provide any information which would be much bigger problem if they are an scam an ganza like what so many here state.
CryptoBudds, you got again an reply and then you go again with "If, when",... . Ganza had so much support and money that he could have created something usefull, he just decided to steal, why? maybe he will tell it on the court.
Can you talk now a little bit about wallet code? Where are differences to the original coin? What advantage or disadvantage has this coin? How stable is their blockchain? Which kind of attacks on this blockchain are possible and how did they prevent it in their code? Hidden code parts? Bugs? Can anybody reply to these questions without going into offtopic or assumption about ganza and gaw,because we already have 89 pages about this topic, lets move on to the code.
They are an company and by all meaning, they do not need to provide any information which would be much bigger problem if they are an scam an ganza like what so many here state.
CryptoBudds, you got again an reply and then you go again with "If, when",... . Ganza had so much support and money that he could have created something usefull, he just decided to steal, why? maybe he will tell it on the court.
Can you talk now a little bit about wallet code? Where are differences to the original coin? What advantage or disadvantage has this coin? How stable is their blockchain? Which kind of attacks on this blockchain are possible and how did they prevent it in their code? Hidden code parts? Bugs? Can anybody reply to these questions without going into offtopic or assumption about ganza and gaw,because we already have 89 pages about this topic, lets move on to the code.
What is the point in talking about code if a game coin can't get into any App Store? That's why people want to talk about getting into the stores and not violating TOSs. If you don't want to talk about that, that's completely fine. I don't get the "business competitive advantage" bs, but if you say so. To me that is an excuse for "we don't know how we're gonna do it". We're talking about getting into the app stores here, absolutely vital to the success of the coin they just launched. They should already have this done. How would sharing their approach to this be giving out competitive business advantages?
If you want to talk about coin code, that is great. I'm sure some others will take you up on that. I'm interested in the games and game development, if you would have read some of my recent posts. So that is where I am going to focus my questions. Is that ok?
I would assume there are several points:
1. This is bitcointalk, not an gaming platform or investment platform, it is mainly about the code and not an business model.
2. If they tell you how they want to do it, why would you talk about it at all if it is impossible by the code?
3. I do not see anybody of them who is responsible for business model coming over and discussing about it.
You say "business comp....." BS. Exactly this is what I try to tell you with point 3. You ask questions and nobody can reply them except their team. Do you know this game for kids, where one person tells something to antoher and so far. What comes out at the end? This is what I expect if people go to ask on slack and report their view here.
May 21, 2016, 06:23:37 AM
Korvas, rdewilde, anyone else on the inside. Has there been any more clarification on how they will work with Google play to accept payment in game besides "amazon does it?"
No. From what I remember IOS was more of a problem than Android. But no detailed description was given. Most guess that the ingame incentive will not be crypto (but for example the non-crypto token called Electrons) which can be used to boost staking on the IONs thru ionomy platform. Indirectly it means that ingame earned/bought tokens would be converted from/to ION capital thru staking. Not a single official detailled source about this yet though
To tell everyone now how they would implement the payment element in gaming would be commercial stupidity. At this stage showing intent is enough. If the ION team turned round today and said this is how we'll implement then
a) you've given away a competitive advantage
b) you set yourself up for someone to screw you
The best thing to do is go ahead and implement then discuss the merits or failings later. Today if you think the implementation has no chance then it's simple don't invest.
No offense, but Garza made the exact statement when asked how ZenPool was so much more profitable than any other pool in existence. The exact same excuse. And this is correct if you are doing something you want to hide. If your competitive edge is getting around a loophole in an App Store, then yikes. Shouldn't your competitive edge be the quality of your dev team and their games? Not what loophole is gonna be exploited in the systems.
No offence taken
but Fuck Garza. That asshole made statements on something that was available. This is totally different different May 21, 2016, 06:16:43 AM
I dont agree with you cryptobuds. For me Adam is not the same like ganza and ion is not the same like paycoin, if you want to point out how similar they are, please provide code comparrison.
They are an company and by all meaning, they do not need to provide any information which would be much bigger problem if they are an scam an ganza like what so many here state.
CryptoBudds, you got again an reply and then you go again with "If, when",... . Ganza had so much support and money that he could have created something usefull, he just decided to steal, why? maybe he will tell it on the court.
Can you talk now a little bit about wallet code? Where are differences to the original coin? What advantage or disadvantage has this coin? How stable is their blockchain? Which kind of attacks on this blockchain are possible and how did they prevent it in their code? Hidden code parts? Bugs? Can anybody reply to these questions without going into offtopic or assumption about ganza and gaw,because we already have 89 pages about this topic, lets move on to the code.
They are an company and by all meaning, they do not need to provide any information which would be much bigger problem if they are an scam an ganza like what so many here state.
CryptoBudds, you got again an reply and then you go again with "If, when",... . Ganza had so much support and money that he could have created something usefull, he just decided to steal, why? maybe he will tell it on the court.
Can you talk now a little bit about wallet code? Where are differences to the original coin? What advantage or disadvantage has this coin? How stable is their blockchain? Which kind of attacks on this blockchain are possible and how did they prevent it in their code? Hidden code parts? Bugs? Can anybody reply to these questions without going into offtopic or assumption about ganza and gaw,because we already have 89 pages about this topic, lets move on to the code.
What is the point in talking about code if a game coin can't get into any App Store? That's why people want to talk about getting into the stores and not violating TOSs. If you don't want to talk about that, that's completely fine. I don't get the "business competitive advantage" bs, but if you say so. To me that is an excuse for "we don't know how we're gonna do it". We're talking about getting into the app stores here, absolutely vital to the success of the coin they just launched. They should already have this done. How would sharing their approach to this be giving out competitive business advantages?
If you want to talk about coin code, that is great. I'm sure some others will take you up on that. I'm interested in the games and game development, if you would have read some of my recent posts. So that is where I am going to focus my questions. Is that ok?
May 21, 2016, 05:47:18 AM
I dont agree with you cryptobuds. For me Adam is not the same like ganza and ion is not the same like paycoin, if you want to point out how similar they are, please provide code comparrison.
They are an company and by all meaning, they do not need to provide any information which would be much bigger problem if they are an scam an ganza like what so many here state.
CryptoBudds, you got again an reply and then you go again with "If, when",... . Ganza had so much support and money that he could have created something usefull, he just decided to steal, why? maybe he will tell it on the court.
Can you talk now a little bit about wallet code? Where are differences to the original coin? What advantage or disadvantage has this coin? How stable is their blockchain? Which kind of attacks on this blockchain are possible and how did they prevent it in their code? Hidden code parts? Bugs? Can anybody reply to these questions without going into offtopic or assumption about ganza and gaw,because we already have 89 pages about this topic, lets move on to the code.
They are an company and by all meaning, they do not need to provide any information which would be much bigger problem if they are an scam an ganza like what so many here state.
CryptoBudds, you got again an reply and then you go again with "If, when",... . Ganza had so much support and money that he could have created something usefull, he just decided to steal, why? maybe he will tell it on the court.
Can you talk now a little bit about wallet code? Where are differences to the original coin? What advantage or disadvantage has this coin? How stable is their blockchain? Which kind of attacks on this blockchain are possible and how did they prevent it in their code? Hidden code parts? Bugs? Can anybody reply to these questions without going into offtopic or assumption about ganza and gaw,because we already have 89 pages about this topic, lets move on to the code.
May 21, 2016, 05:21:50 AM
Korvas, rdewilde, anyone else on the inside. Has there been any more clarification on how they will work with Google play to accept payment in game besides "amazon does it?"
No. From what I remember IOS was more of a problem than Android. But no detailed description was given. Most guess that the ingame incentive will not be crypto (but for example the non-crypto token called Electrons) which can be used to boost staking on the IONs thru ionomy platform. Indirectly it means that ingame earned/bought tokens would be converted from/to ION capital thru staking. Not a single official detailled source about this yet though
To tell everyone now how they would implement the payment element in gaming would be commercial stupidity. At this stage showing intent is enough. If the ION team turned round today and said this is how we'll implement then
a) you've given away a competitive advantage
b) you set yourself up for someone to screw you
The best thing to do is go ahead and implement then discuss the merits or failings later. Today if you think the implementation has no chance then it's simple don't invest.
No offense, but Garza made the exact statement when asked how ZenPool was so much more profitable than any other pool in existence. The exact same excuse. And this is correct if you are doing something you want to hide. If your competitive edge is getting around a loophole in an App Store, then yikes. Shouldn't your competitive edge be the quality of your dev team and their games? Not what loophole is gonna be exploited in the systems.
May 21, 2016, 05:12:01 AM
BTW @ION Team
WTF!!! You get an news line an then you want to promote this news line by putting it as secret for your chain, I am pointing in particular to I organisation, for years??? This is not clever at all!
But I assume you will not create an new coin because you need to change secret key, lol, whose idea was it?? Whoever, this person messed it up
WTF!!! You get an news line an then you want to promote this news line by putting it as secret for your chain, I am pointing in particular to I organisation, for years??? This is not clever at all!
But I assume you will not create an new coin
because you need to change secret key, lol, whose idea was it?? Whoever, this person messed it up May 21, 2016, 05:05:26 AM
Korvas, rdewilde, anyone else on the inside. Has there been any more clarification on how they will work with Google play to accept payment in game besides "amazon does it?"
No. From what I remember IOS was more of a problem than Android. But no detailed description was given. Most guess that the ingame incentive will not be crypto (but for example the non-crypto token called Electrons) which can be used to boost staking on the IONs thru ionomy platform. Indirectly it means that ingame earned/bought tokens would be converted from/to ION capital thru staking. Not a single official detailled source about this yet though
To tell everyone now how they would implement the payment element in gaming would be commercial stupidity. At this stage showing intent is enough. If the ION team turned round today and said this is how we'll implement then
a) you've given away a competitive advantage
b) you set yourself up for someone to screw you
The best thing to do is go ahead and implement then discuss the merits or failings later. Today if you think the implementation has no chance then it's simple don't invest.
May 21, 2016, 04:48:29 AM
Slight correction for bounty wallet from rdewilde
Thanks! I think I will wait for more updates and then re-post the whole updated FAQ.
BTW did you check the balance? It's ~2.2 million, even though whitepaper states 2.5 million
This transparency thing is a major chore for these guys.
Since i haven't made a coin before can someone tell me how to find the original generated coins? I expected to use a block explorer to check block 1 i.e. the genesis block and see coins move from that but you don't see it.
Its quite easy to get the ip behind the ionomy website to match the hosting for the vps for their wallet masternodes as cloudflare doesn't mask this well enough when the domain service leaks it in other ways for the site.
Does anyone know how to find the originating generated coins? To verify their premine is as they said?
Sure, I supose many know here how to do it, but here it is for ionomy, everything seems clear to me by the code:
REMOVED BECAUSE OF HYPOCRATIC REASONS
Seems like I am in an good mood today, ok, I'll share anotherREMOVED BECAUSE OF HYPOCRATIC REASONS that might help you on genesis creation. If you look into the code, then its easier to understand how this is donoe.
May 21, 2016, 04:23:52 AM
The reason why the price is not dropping is because it's not a free market. You can only sell at certain prices. If it gets added somewhere else the volatility will be much higher. Once again this is a terrible idea, no idea they would implement this but fixed prices are not good in a free market it is demonstrative of value. It can't fall like a rock because the exchange has a limit on how low you can sell. Sells below a certain point are not honoured, this is called fake price stability. The point is that the numbers will not stay the same, the reason for this is because the current exchange price is manipulated. Once you add it to another exchange the numbers will be much different because they use a free market system. Fake price stability is not stability. No coins that have fake price stability have survived, you can check the original Paycoin for that. One again history is repeating itself.
The point is that the numbers will not stay the same, the reason for this is because the current exchange price is manipulated. Once you add it to another exchange the numbers will be much different because they use a free market system. Fake price stability is not stability. No coins that have fake price stability have survived, you can check the original Paycoin for that. One again history is repeating itself.
The point is that the numbers will not stay the same, the reason for this is because the current exchange price is manipulated. Once you add it to another exchange the numbers will be much different because they use a free market system. Fake price stability is not stability. No coins that have fake price stability have survived, you can check the original Paycoin for that. One again history is repeating itself.
This is the incorrect statement made on BCT by ICOcountdown.com
How is the exchange limited at all? its completely open. anyone can sell or buy at any level they want at any moment they would like. how could you honestly look at it and think any different?
I guess that's one way to get a comment from MrCEO
I wonder what triggers it. Let's try this one:
Adam Matlack may have stolen all BTC collected from the ION ICO and fled to Dubai. Otherwise they would have provided the address for the funds and all that other accountability and transparency shit... wouldn't they?
Click this link to see the contradiction: https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.gyazo.com%2F3ea35a88a34b5acb72f5fbe72ca5b6d9.png&t=564&c=4qbhv7PefJLS0A
If suchmoon would like to quote this post and display this image for me it would help
since he has the original I think. 
May 21, 2016, 04:21:21 AM
Korvas, rdewilde, anyone else on the inside. Has there been any more clarification on how they will work with Google play to accept payment in game besides "amazon does it?"
No. From what I remember IOS was more of a problem than Android. But no detailed description was given. Most guess that the ingame incentive will not be crypto (but for example the non-crypto token called Electrons) which can be used to boost staking on the IONs thru ionomy platform. Indirectly it means that ingame earned/bought tokens would be converted from/to ION capital thru staking. Not a single official detailled source about this yet though
Apple will not allow a token that gives monetary money outside. if they did then others would simply not use ingame currency and ion or similar tokens and direct people to use them at their site. Apple and google will knock this on its ass and freeze all of the devs games that do it until they are changed. Is you and others in ions investment worth taking such a high risk for what is their crowning purpose of the coin i.e. mobile gaming? If apple store and google play store freeze or remove these games which they will... then does that mean the coin loses all purpose? Your opinion?
May 21, 2016, 03:01:54 AM
Korvas, rdewilde, anyone else on the inside. Has there been any more clarification on how they will work with Google play to accept payment in game besides "amazon does it?"
No. From what I remember IOS was more of a problem than Android. But no detailed description was given. Most guess that the ingame incentive will not be crypto (but for example the non-crypto token called Electrons) which can be used to boost staking on the IONs thru ionomy platform. Indirectly it means that ingame earned/bought tokens would be converted from/to ION capital thru staking. Not a single official detailled source about this yet though
Apple will not allow a token that gives monetary money outside. if they did then others would simply not use ingame currency and ion or similar tokens and direct people to use them at their site. Apple and google will knock this on its ass and freeze all of the devs games that do it until they are changed. Is you and others in ions investment worth taking such a high risk for what is their crowning purpose of the coin i.e. mobile gaming? If apple store and google play store freeze or remove these games which they will... then does that mean the coin loses all purpose? Your opinion?
May 21, 2016, 02:58:26 AM
BTW this is horribly bad practice.
For those not versed in networking
an address like
45.32.148.69:4001
45.32.148.69:4002
These are both running on the same server instance with that ip address... all that changes is the port. I.e. as long as that specific pc has enough ram to support running the wallet multiple times 1 pc hosts many masternodes. Staking wallets are usually lightweight cpu wise and ram is cheap.
SO basically for a small cost outlay for a vps they get big rewards. There is a reason that many masternode coins only allow 1 masternode per IP address. This is to prevent people doing this providing a real cost to each ip address to distribute it more.
This is another red flag for ionomy. If they wanted the coin to be not centrally possible to control with the masternode network they would prevent this.
Why would you want your coins to filter through 1 pc 20 times as transaction points? Its a flawed system in one port out the other never leaves the 1 pc.
Add that to the list suchmoon... more dodginess. Multi masternodes on 1 ip address reduces ionomy costs for controlling masternode rewards.
EDIT
Im also willing to believe that their masternode age required before it can function as a masternode to be quite low. I suspect their nodes drop off a bit and they don't know why so they use the masternode restart-all or whatever it is command quite regularly.
Psst its because you host many per ip address so that starts happening and since you just copied the code and didn't look into fixing it thats your bug... this is why the ips are changing too... they prolly have dynamic ip vps's going cause they don't need the static address for their purpose. They prolly restart the boxes wondering why the nodes are dropping.
For those not versed in networking
an address like
45.32.148.69:4001
45.32.148.69:4002
These are both running on the same server instance with that ip address... all that changes is the port. I.e. as long as that specific pc has enough ram to support running the wallet multiple times 1 pc hosts many masternodes. Staking wallets are usually lightweight cpu wise and ram is cheap.
SO basically for a small cost outlay for a vps they get big rewards. There is a reason that many masternode coins only allow 1 masternode per IP address. This is to prevent people doing this providing a real cost to each ip address to distribute it more.
This is another red flag for ionomy. If they wanted the coin to be not centrally possible to control with the masternode network they would prevent this.
Why would you want your coins to filter through 1 pc 20 times as transaction points? Its a flawed system in one port out the other never leaves the 1 pc.
Add that to the list suchmoon... more dodginess. Multi masternodes on 1 ip address reduces ionomy costs for controlling masternode rewards.
EDIT
Im also willing to believe that their masternode age required before it can function as a masternode to be quite low. I suspect their nodes drop off a bit and they don't know why so they use the masternode restart-all or whatever it is command quite regularly.
Psst its because you host many per ip address so that starts happening and since you just copied the code and didn't look into fixing it thats your bug... this is why the ips are changing too... they prolly have dynamic ip vps's going cause they don't need the static address for their purpose. They prolly restart the boxes wondering why the nodes are dropping.
Nonsense, it is POS not POW. You need coins per wallet to stake, for a masternode 20k. It does not matter if you run 2x 20k MN on two small servers or one big server.
Same for normal nodes. It is relative to the number of coins in your wallet what the reward will be. It makes no sense, and does not matter, to split this into many wallets (except if it is a security measure).
Masternodes are designed for more anonymous sends with darksend / dashsend whatever they call it.
Having everything run through the same source with the mixing etc kinda defeats that purpose. If you want to go the nonsense route with POS then nonsense POS doesn't need masternodes why not just have a constant stake rate for any balance then people don't need to give their coins to others or have silly 20k minimum amounts.
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