Topic: [ANN] [KEY] KeyCoin | Fair Launch | 10/24 Update: KeyTrader v2 - Windows + Mac - page 18. (Read 100859 times)

I did not find a solution yet. I kind of gave up, at least for the time being. It's a bummer, I'm missing out on staking.  

Personally, I think it's an issue with the wallet package and I say this because some time ago I had this issue with VOOT's wallet and MsCollec recompiled the wallet for me with a new permissions/execution flag and it launched thereafter. Kind of like what this guy is talking about here:

http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/81330/downloaded-apps-does-not-start-error-10658

I tried the chmod +x command like he suggests there, but it still didn't help so maybe there's more to it.

The mystery continues...

That's interesting, I did not know that.  Definitely a good thing to have someone with experience in it to help with the development.

Did you happen to find the solution to your wallet problem yet?

Dan developed his own bootable OS for XC almost two months ago, well before KEYOS. It was released by him to the XC community as the XC TorStick .ISO:

http://downloads.xc-official.com/release/xc-torstick/XCurrency_livecd_X86_v2.47h.iso

This, I'm sure, is precisely why the KEY team came to Dan for his expertise.

In fact, I wouldn't be here holding any KEY if it weren't for Dan's involvement with KEYOS.

I have one other concern that's been bugging me. I noticed that the KEYOS download link is through XC?:  http://downloads.xc-official.com/atcsecure/KEYOS_PROJECT/
Am I gonna wake up one day and find that there's going to be a copy and paste XCOS? Don't get me wrong, I'm happy to hear about Dan Metcalf's involvement with the project, but point I'm getting at is... is this KEYOS exclusively for Keycoin or is it something where we will see other coins copy and paste it and utilize it themselves. I'd think that the dev's for KeyCoin would want all their hard work secure and locked away for the sake of the value of the coin.

I'd like to see this coin as a commodity - kind of hard not to be with 914,000 coins. A 'gentlemans & lady's club' commodity coin - so to speak - where holders get the use of multiple features per amount of coin they hold and stake. Like Traderbot "standard", Traderbot "advanced" or Traderbot "premium - and likewise with KeyOS, different levels of coin holding unlock different and exclusive features. Dev's could also set up a stake system where a percentage of the coins minted go to funding the dev's new developments. And And of course don't forget a custom USB stick for sale via crypto or fiat.

Am I on the same page as the rest of you guys or am I off the deep end... Thoughts?

I have one other concern that's been bugging me. I noticed that the KEYOS download link is through XC?:  http://downloads.xc-official.com/atcsecure/KEYOS_PROJECT/
Am I gonna wake up one day and find that there's going to be a copy and paste XCOS? Don't get me wrong, I'm happy to hear about Dan Metcalf's involvement with the project, but point I'm getting at is... is this KEYOS exclusively for Keycoin or is it something where we will see other coins copy and paste it and utilize it themselves. I'd think that the dev's for KeyCoin would want all their hard work secure and locked away for the sake of the value of the coin.

I'd like to see this coin as a commodity - kind of hard not to be with 914,000 coins. A 'gentlemans & lady's club' commodity coin - so to speak - where holders get the use of multiple features per amount of coin they hold and stake. Like Traderbot "standard", Traderbot "advanced" or Traderbot "premium - and likewise with KeyOS, different levels of coin holding unlock different and exclusive features. Dev's could also set up a stake system where a percentage of the coins minted go to funding the dev's new developments. And And of course don't forget a custom USB stick for sale via crypto or fiat.

Am I on the same page as the rest of you guys or am I off the deep end... Thoughts?

 

Sorry you are having difficulties with anonymous transactions! Please check the guide posted at http://keycoincrypto.com/index.php/guides/61-sending-anonymous-transactions-using-the-keycoin-wallet-gui and let us know if there are further issues. This method was just tested successfully from a wallet with no funds currently tied to the address labeled "anon" but we are happy to help if you still have trouble.

A sample keycoin.conf file can also be found at http://keycoincrypto.com/index.php/guides/62-creating-and-saving-keycoin-conf-windows-os.

Thank you to the community for helping each other out!

The PoS rate is 20% per annum but it can take as little as 8 hours before a transaction becomes eligible to stake so there is an element of compound interest too. However smaller value transactions take a lot longer to stake so you can't just take 8 hours as a given in any calculations.

It's very hard to put real a value on the number of coins that will get generated because there's no way of knowing how much of the coin is actually being staked at any one time. 30.86% of all coins are known to be in Bittrex wallets and from looking at the block explorer I've never seen a stake transaction go to a Bittrex address so it's pretty safe to assume that they're not staking those coins at all. Other major addresses don't seem to be staking either.

The best thing to do would be to look at the number of coins generated by way of proof of stake to date and use that to gauge how many coins are created per day:

Look at block 4500 on the block explorer. (The last Proof Of Work block)

Outstanding coins = 913,277.500272311

Deduct the Outstanding Coins value above from that of the current block. Using block 77600 at the time I type this:

Outstanding coins = 914,520.021033951

914,520.021033951 - 913,277.500272311 = 1242.52076164

Block 4500 was created at 04:19:17 (GMT) on 18th July 2014 and block 77600 was created at 14:24:17 (GMT) on 4th September 2014 so that's 48 days, 10 hours, 5 minutes between these blocks.

10 hours * 60 minutes * 60 seconds = 36,000 seconds
5 minutes * 60 seconds = 300 seconds
36,000 seconds + 300 seconds = 36,300 seconds

24 hours * 60 minutes * 60 seconds = 86,400 seconds

36,300 seconds / 86,400 seconds = 0.42 days (to 2 d.p.)

48 days + 0.42 days = 48.42 days

So.....

1242.52076164 / 48.42 = 25.66 coins per day (to 2 d.p.)

This daily average will likely increase if more people decide to stake instead of leaving their coins on exchanges but as it currently stands (25.66 coins per day), we wouldn't even reach 918K coins in existence by the end of this year.


KEY is a very limited resource growing at a snail's pace. If people just hold their coins instead of day trading them for short term BTC gains their value can only go up in the future.

Nice to see you keep your promise and come back.  I agree with you about Key being a good coin and prices being somewhat terrible for what it is.  But who is to blame for this? Maybe all the damn pump and dumpers on twitter hyping everything up like they always do?  I don't know.  It is rather annoying to see such a good coin at this low of a price.  It certainly raises some concerns that I hope will somehow be addressed if Keycoin were hoping to achieve and maintain a higher market cap.

It is Sept 4th, 6 weeks after I told pr0m, on the original KEY ANN, I would apologize if KEY hadn't been dumped and left with a history similar to crypt.  
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=695457.msg8010301;topicseen#msg8010301

For all the holders, I really like the KEY OS idea and several other features, and was hoping I would have to eat some crow.  But I know some people are holding from 300k.  And I am sorry for you.  

But pr0m, with KEY sitting here @ 30k...


GL KEY, Sincerely.  I thinks this is one of the undervalued, good coins.

Hi dev,  what happened with the keytrader file? I saw an updated file in the link in the ann post yesterday, but its not there now. How can i get keytrader?

The process table could be filled up?
http://www.thexlab.com/faqs/error-10810.html

Thanks, dev, but I tried all that and none of it worked. I do think it is an issue with launch services though. I tried to run it from the terminal again and the error is this:

MacBook-Air:~ user$ open /Users/user/Desktop/Crypto\ Wallets/KeyCoin-Qt.app
LSOpenURLsWithRole() failed with error -10810 for the file /Users/user/Desktop/Crypto Wallets/KeyCoin-Qt.app.

I am in the midst of googling for this error to see if I can find a fix. Thanks for your help thus far. If you'd like to continue offering assistance, feel free to PM if you don't want to clog up the thread with this.

I am not familiar enough with sudo to use it. Plus, I'm not sure it would help anyway. I have access to the root directory with my administrator account on my Mac. Thanks for the suggestions.

Once you have confirmed the problem is with the launch services, check the location of the program file and determine if it is on a read-only medium, since this will prevent the system from modifying the program's quarantine flag.

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the next step is to try removing the quarantine flag manually. To do this, open the Terminal and type the following command followed by a single space (do not press enter yet):

xattr -d com.apple.quarantine

Then locate the application file and drag it to the Terminal window, which should complete the full path to the application. Pressing enter after doing this will remove the quarantine flag from the program and hopefully allow it to run properly.

The final option you can try if programs still do not open is to disable the quarantine service altogether. While the quarantine option is useful and is recommended to keep working, if you are aware of the programs and files you download from the Internet (what they are, and where they came from), then you do not need to have the system warn you about them and can turn off quarantining. To do this, again open the Terminal, followed by running the following command:

defaults write com.apple.LaunchServices LSQuarantine -bool NO

After this command is run, the system will no longer check the quarantine flag and should allow the programs to execute. Do keep in mind this will also turn off a security measure of the system, so only do this if you know you are aware of the programs you download and run (where they came from, and what they are).

I am not familiar enough with sudo to use it. Plus, I'm not sure it would help anyway. I have access to the root directory with my administrator account on my Mac. Thanks for the suggestions.

That seems like a permissions thing.

edit:  if you're willing to take the risk you can try running it as sudo to see if that works