If there are refunds how is bittrex going to handle this? I mean early dumpers lost their coin? People who sold below 10k sat lost their investment?
What about those who bought below 10k sat , will bittrex buy their coin at 10k sat still?
Topic: ☷ [ANN] ☷ [MODERATED] ☷ CLSTR ☷ ClusterCoin ☷ the Future of Money ☷ - page 17. (Read 33275 times)
August 26, 2014, 05:45:57 AM
August 26, 2014, 05:20:48 AM
DEV ACCOUNT https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/essex343-133160 Can you guys go to IRC to tell RICHIE/RAMI, he is offline for almost 1 day, maybe run off. Let bittrex hold the money tightly.
I will go out now. TKS
webchat.freenode.net #bittrex
I will go out now. TKS
webchat.freenode.net #bittrex
August 26, 2014, 05:04:16 AM
Developer met the terms of the agreement and everyone wants bittrex to go back on their word as escrow? Theirs two sides to this.... one... you lost money and don't want the developer to get paid and believe the right thing is for bittrex to back out on their agreement reached keeping trust to some or all who lost out. Two... You had no involvement and realize if the dev met the terms of the agreement then not releasing escrow funds to the developer is dishonest and destroys everyones trust in the exchange. From a business and/or moral standpoint which makes more sense?
Jordan Belfort has said the words like what you said,
do you know who is Jordan Belfort? A SCAM
The wolf of wall street guy?
August 26, 2014, 05:04:15 AM
Developer met the terms of the agreement and everyone wants bittrex to go back on their word as escrow? Theirs two sides to this.... one... you lost money and don't want the developer to get paid and believe the right thing is for bittrex to back out on their agreement reached keeping trust to some or all who lost out. Two... You had no involvement and realize if the dev met the terms of the agreement then not releasing escrow funds to the developer is dishonest and destroys everyones trust in the exchange. From a business and/or moral standpoint which makes more sense?
Jordan Belfort has said the words like what you said,
do you know who is Jordan Belfort? A SCAM
+1 that made me laugh haha
August 26, 2014, 05:03:20 AM
Developer met the terms of the agreement and everyone wants bittrex to go back on their word as escrow? Theirs two sides to this.... one... you lost money and don't want the developer to get paid and believe the right thing is for bittrex to back out on their agreement reached keeping trust to some or all who lost out. Two... You had no involvement and realize if the dev met the terms of the agreement then not releasing escrow funds to the developer is dishonest and destroys everyones trust in the exchange. From a business and/or moral standpoint which makes more sense?
equally though if bittrex do give back the funds to everyone thier reputation will go up and send out a message to people attempting to scam that its harder than they think, there are more traders than devs and i think that the damage for bittrex will be greater if they go against the traders
The only damage giving the dev the escrow really does is to those involved vs breaking an agreement they made and essentially ruining their reputation with everyone else. I'm just an outsider here and even though its really lose lose for bittrex potentially losing their "trust" with everybody has a much greater risk because they can just change the terms of a deal anytime they want? The terms seem as though they have been clear from the start and basically those terms are they meet what 90% of garbage coins development do (and obviously good ones).
August 26, 2014, 05:00:14 AM
Developer met the terms of the agreement and everyone wants bittrex to go back on their word as escrow? Theirs two sides to this.... one... you lost money and don't want the developer to get paid and believe the right thing is for bittrex to back out on their agreement reached keeping trust to some or all who lost out. Two... You had no involvement and realize if the dev met the terms of the agreement then not releasing escrow funds to the developer is dishonest and destroys everyones trust in the exchange. From a business and/or moral standpoint which makes more sense?
Jordan Belfort has said the words like what you said,
do you know who is Jordan Belfort? A SCAM
August 26, 2014, 04:52:59 AM
Developer met the terms of the agreement and everyone wants bittrex to go back on their word as escrow? Theirs two sides to this.... one... you lost money and don't want the developer to get paid and believe the right thing is for bittrex to back out on their agreement reached keeping trust to some or all who lost out. Two... You had no involvement and realize if the dev met the terms of the agreement then not releasing escrow funds to the developer is dishonest and destroys everyones trust in the exchange. From a business and/or moral standpoint which makes more sense?
equally though if bittrex do give back the funds to everyone thier reputation will go up and send out a message to people attempting to scam that its harder than they think, there are more traders than devs and i think that the damage for bittrex will be greater if they go against the traders
August 26, 2014, 04:52:27 AM
why has the DEV stopped deleting posts? did he get bored?
Good question. Scenario 1: Dev is not even trying anymore because he only needs to get PoD to get the funds. So his main concern is not this thread anymore but the PoD procedure. After he gets the funds this thread will be closed and the investors will panic sell all CLSTR.
Scenario 2: Dev is fed up with all the FUD and accusations going on lately. He is trying to get the PoD first so he can prove that he is legit. After PoD he comes back and says something like "See, I have all the BTC now AND I am still here. Stop the FUD and let us go to work". Work is continued. People first panic sell when the market opens because they just don't care anymore. After a while the price will rise again when the dev actually delivers.
Now, choose your scenario and act accordingly
It is still a gamble IMO. But I choose the first scenario. This will hurt a lot of people. Hope I am wrong. August 26, 2014, 04:47:45 AM
Developer met the terms of the agreement and everyone wants bittrex to go back on their word as escrow? Theirs two sides to this.... one... you lost money and don't want the developer to get paid and believe the right thing is for bittrex to back out on their agreement reached keeping trust to some or all who lost out. Two... You had no involvement and realize if the dev met the terms of the agreement then not releasing escrow funds to the developer is dishonest and destroys everyones trust in the exchange. From a business and/or moral standpoint which makes more sense?
August 26, 2014, 04:47:00 AM
why has the DEV stopped deleting posts? did he get bored?
August 26, 2014, 04:46:03 AM
If a potential scam will happen, will the bank violate the terms/agreement?
August 26, 2014, 04:43:55 AM
We will review the walet before initially adding it.
* We will hold all Premine Coins - 7,000,000 CLSTR
* The ICO will run for 7 days starting August 15th, 2014
* If success conditions are met, we will destroy all remaining coins.
* If success conditions are NOT met, we will buy back all outstanding coins at the ICO price
* Once the ICO is over we will verify there is working wallet and block explorer
* We will hold onto the funds in escrow for 3 days - at which time, we will release the funds.
* No sales of the coin will be allowed until after the ICO ends
* ALL SALES ARE FINAL AND THERE WILL BE NO REFUNDS - except if the success criteria isn't met
All those conditions are met correct? So if bittrex doesn't give the money over to the dev being that the terms have been met then they are scamming.... Because lots of people lost money they should break the "contract"? Hardly makes sense....
* We will hold all Premine Coins - 7,000,000 CLSTR
* The ICO will run for 7 days starting August 15th, 2014
* If success conditions are met, we will destroy all remaining coins.
* If success conditions are NOT met, we will buy back all outstanding coins at the ICO price
* Once the ICO is over we will verify there is working wallet and block explorer
* We will hold onto the funds in escrow for 3 days - at which time, we will release the funds.
* No sales of the coin will be allowed until after the ICO ends
* ALL SALES ARE FINAL AND THERE WILL BE NO REFUNDS - except if the success criteria isn't met
All those conditions are met correct? So if bittrex doesn't give the money over to the dev being that the terms have been met then they are scamming.... Because lots of people lost money they should break the "contract"? Hardly makes sense....
you are the scammer, right?
August 26, 2014, 04:41:50 AM
yeah at least we know the funds are still being held and they are extending the escrow until the pod happens but no time period is given unfortunately,
if the developer doesnt reveal his identity then they wont give him the money i think, anyway of making sure he doesnt reveal his identity? (just a thought, obviously i wouldnt/dont have the skills to do that myself)
i also find it funny how all the bittrex folks names all start with the letter R haha
if the developer doesnt reveal his identity then they wont give him the money i think, anyway of making sure he doesnt reveal his identity? (just a thought, obviously i wouldnt/dont have the skills to do that myself)
i also find it funny how all the bittrex folks names all start with the letter R haha
I hope NO Retard within the bittrex
if not refund, all retards there
August 26, 2014, 04:41:19 AM
yeah at least we know the funds are still being held and they are extending the escrow until the pod happens but no time period is given unfortunately,
if the developer doesnt reveal his identity then they wont give him the money i think, anyway of making sure he doesnt reveal his identity? (just a thought, obviously i wouldnt/dont have the skills to do that myself)
i also find it funny how all the bittrex folks names all start with the letter R haha
if the developer doesnt reveal his identity then they wont give him the money i think, anyway of making sure he doesnt reveal his identity? (just a thought, obviously i wouldnt/dont have the skills to do that myself)
i also find it funny how all the bittrex folks names all start with the letter R haha
Crypto Asian @CryptoAsian · 24th of August
$CLSTR Proof of Developer Analysis received and will be analyzed. Will take a little time to research as they have multiple developers.
August 26, 2014, 04:40:17 AM
yeah at least we know the funds are still being held and they are extending the escrow until the pod happens but no time period is given unfortunately,
if the developer doesnt reveal his identity then they wont give him the money i think, anyway of making sure he doesnt reveal his identity? (just a thought, obviously i wouldnt/dont have the skills to do that myself)
i also find it funny how all the bittrex folks names all start with the letter R haha
if the developer doesnt reveal his identity then they wont give him the money i think, anyway of making sure he doesnt reveal his identity? (just a thought, obviously i wouldnt/dont have the skills to do that myself)
i also find it funny how all the bittrex folks names all start with the letter R haha
I hope NO Retard within the bittrex
+1
August 26, 2014, 04:39:06 AM
yeah at least we know the funds are still being held and they are extending the escrow until the pod happens but no time period is given unfortunately,
if the developer doesnt reveal his identity then they wont give him the money i think, anyway of making sure he doesnt reveal his identity? (just a thought, obviously i wouldnt/dont have the skills to do that myself)
i also find it funny how all the bittrex folks names all start with the letter R haha
if the developer doesnt reveal his identity then they wont give him the money i think, anyway of making sure he doesnt reveal his identity? (just a thought, obviously i wouldnt/dont have the skills to do that myself)
i also find it funny how all the bittrex folks names all start with the letter R haha
I hope NO Retard within the bittrex
August 26, 2014, 04:36:47 AM
yeah at least we know the funds are still being held and they are extending the escrow until the pod happens but no time period is given unfortunately,
if the developer doesnt reveal his identity then they wont give him the money i think, anyway of making sure he doesnt reveal his identity? (just a thought, obviously i wouldnt/dont have the skills to do that myself)
i also find it funny how all the bittrex folks names all start with the letter R haha
if the developer doesnt reveal his identity then they wont give him the money i think, anyway of making sure he doesnt reveal his identity? (just a thought, obviously i wouldnt/dont have the skills to do that myself)
i also find it funny how all the bittrex folks names all start with the letter R haha
August 26, 2014, 04:35:44 AM
"Ryan Hentz (Bittrex)
Aug 25 16:14
Please refer to our FAQ posted at: https://bittrex.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/203082940-ClusterCoin-FAQ
The ICO funds are still held and if all terms aren't met they will be returned to investors.
Thanks,
Ryan @ Bittrex"
"Ryan Hentz
Ryan Hentz (Bittrex)
Aug 25 16:32
For your safety we are doing additional due diligence and extended the escrow till pod is complete.
Thank you,
Ryan"
i recieved these responses last night when contacting bittrex about what is happening, doesnt give a lot away but thought i would share
Aug 25 16:14
Please refer to our FAQ posted at: https://bittrex.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/203082940-ClusterCoin-FAQ
The ICO funds are still held and if all terms aren't met they will be returned to investors.
Thanks,
Ryan @ Bittrex"
"Ryan Hentz
Ryan Hentz (Bittrex)
Aug 25 16:32
For your safety we are doing additional due diligence and extended the escrow till pod is complete.
Thank you,
Ryan"
i recieved these responses last night when contacting bittrex about what is happening, doesnt give a lot away but thought i would share
when ? he didn't mention the time, maybe hold one year ?!
August 26, 2014, 04:31:33 AM
"Ryan Hentz (Bittrex)
Aug 25 16:14
Please refer to our FAQ posted at: https://bittrex.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/203082940-ClusterCoin-FAQ
The ICO funds are still held and if all terms aren't met they will be returned to investors.
Thanks,
Ryan @ Bittrex"
"Ryan Hentz
Ryan Hentz (Bittrex)
Aug 25 16:32
For your safety we are doing additional due diligence and extended the escrow till pod is complete.
Thank you,
Ryan"
i recieved these responses last night when contacting bittrex about what is happening, doesnt give a lot away but thought i would share
Aug 25 16:14
Please refer to our FAQ posted at: https://bittrex.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/203082940-ClusterCoin-FAQ
The ICO funds are still held and if all terms aren't met they will be returned to investors.
Thanks,
Ryan @ Bittrex"
"Ryan Hentz
Ryan Hentz (Bittrex)
Aug 25 16:32
For your safety we are doing additional due diligence and extended the escrow till pod is complete.
Thank you,
Ryan"
i recieved these responses last night when contacting bittrex about what is happening, doesnt give a lot away but thought i would share
It seems Ryan is better than Rami and Richie, Rami and Richie were mocking us when we discussed about refund.
August 26, 2014, 04:28:31 AM
"Ryan Hentz (Bittrex)
Aug 25 16:14
Please refer to our FAQ posted at: https://bittrex.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/203082940-ClusterCoin-FAQ
The ICO funds are still held and if all terms aren't met they will be returned to investors.
Thanks,
Ryan @ Bittrex"
"Ryan Hentz
Ryan Hentz (Bittrex)
Aug 25 16:32
For your safety we are doing additional due diligence and extended the escrow till pod is complete.
Thank you,
Ryan"
i recieved these responses last night when contacting bittrex about what is happening, doesnt give a lot away but thought i would share
Aug 25 16:14
Please refer to our FAQ posted at: https://bittrex.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/203082940-ClusterCoin-FAQ
The ICO funds are still held and if all terms aren't met they will be returned to investors.
Thanks,
Ryan @ Bittrex"
"Ryan Hentz
Ryan Hentz (Bittrex)
Aug 25 16:32
For your safety we are doing additional due diligence and extended the escrow till pod is complete.
Thank you,
Ryan"
i recieved these responses last night when contacting bittrex about what is happening, doesnt give a lot away but thought i would share
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