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Topic: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official - page 130. (Read 196191 times)

sr. member
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I bought some , if there is a pump I win , however I think with the team they have they might be able to fullfill their goal and this could realy make me a good amount of money.
legendary
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Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political
The obvious answer is that they are trying to make money for themselves.  there is nothing wrong with that per se, however I just don't see it being a good deal for most investors.
sr. member
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Exactly.  non profit doesn't mean that much as they could still have whatever staff costs (including executive staff) they desire. 

What I find disdainful about neucoin is the dishonesty.  There is nothing technically innovative about it, yet they claimed there is. If they wanted to do a coin based around mass marketing and adoption, they should have simply stated that with full transparency without the bogus claims of solving proof of stake issues.

Also, the idea that they are going to get more adoption than Bitcoin in one year is not plausible to me.  Its overhyped claims and promises being sold here.

I guess a couple of things really puzzle me about it all.  Non-profits usually have some type of over all goal like “Save the elves” or “Save the rainbow people” but I'm puzzled as to the overreaching goal here, “Save the Oligarchy?”.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Our donations are going in what percentage to the needy poor people?  Grin

In my opinion a better business model is a worker owned cooperative where profits are shared among the community if there are any.  Sounds a bit like most of the cryptocoins without a massive premine to me.  If the over all goal of the nonprofits is to improve adoption of cryptocoins and help the poor I'm not sure why they would not focus more on helping out adoption of the host of other similar such coins currently developed though taking donations and organizing bounties and contests to redistribute the donated value.  (Perhaps they will it remains to be seen)

Additionally, based on how I've seen other PoS coins operate I'm not sure about how well this one will work.  Without adding coin weight through aging, all the utxo blocks will always carry the same weight based on their size Huh and with this many coins I would expect the difficulty could get quite high.  I'll be interested to see how things work out; there seems like a potential to control coin supply by the major players through adjusting utxo block size and computing resources, but perhaps I'm not understanding something here.

I do hope people have a good experience and it improves the mass adoption of cryptocurrency, that would be nice.
legendary
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yes hopefully they will raise awareness about cryptocurrency.
hero member
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Exactly.  non profit doesn't mean that much as they could still have whatever staff costs (including executive staff) they desire.  

What I find disdainful about neucoin is the dishonesty.  There is nothing technically innovative about it, yet they claimed there is. If they wanted to do a coin based around mass marketing and adoption, they should have simply stated that with full transparency without the bogus claims of solving proof of stake issues.

Also, the idea that they are going to get more adoption than Bitcoin in one year is not plausible to me.  Its overhyped claims and promises being sold here.

  Fair enough. I do, I really do, see your points. And I agree, their papers and media releases seem like a politician going for a term run - not sure of which platform on which to stand. For me, however, I do see some innovation and creativity, but to each their own. My main point is that they will be trying to boost the adoption of the common consumer. Sure, I don't see how they will garner the adoption of Bitcoin in one year. Bitcoin was, and still is king in that department. However, Bitcoin was the first, the innovater, the noveau concept that just made you want to jump in, even if you didn't fully know what it was yet. I believe that NeuCoin will try to accomplish wider adoption with education that Bitcoin was lacking in through its first years.
 Yes, NeuCoin is making some very big claims, and I agree that it will be next to impossible to accomplish, but I for one am glad that their is at least another company in the fray trying to reach the common consumer. If everyone knew and understood the process behind crypto - from acquiring it all the way down to what utilities it could serve, I believe we would all be better off.
legendary
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Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political
Exactly.  non profit doesn't mean that much as they could still have whatever staff costs (including executive staff) they desire. 

What I find disdainful about neucoin is the dishonesty.  There is nothing technically innovative about it, yet they claimed there is. If they wanted to do a coin based around mass marketing and adoption, they should have simply stated that with full transparency without the bogus claims of solving proof of stake issues.

Also, the idea that they are going to get more adoption than Bitcoin in one year is not plausible to me.  Its overhyped claims and promises being sold here.
hero member
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I believe that for a cryptocurrency or alternate payment system to be successful, and to really achieve what the true aim of cryptocurrency is - decentralization not issued by any central authority, immune to government interference or manipulation. A currency for the people, by the people, and governed by the people - not by some bigwig, money grubbing, "we make the rules" authority 

So lets see here... neucoin team is keeping 2 billion coins to themselves while selling 100 million to the public (for about $900,000)...Can you explain again how is this coin is not "issued by a bigwig money grubing authority" ?  What am I missing?

  And I do agree with you wholeheartedly jonald. 2 billion coins seems like a classic hoard of the diamonds before the peons get the dust. However, at least as I read it, or what they say, if they are to be believed at least, those pre-mined coins will be used to fund expenditures of the three NeuCoin foundations - the NeuCoin Code Foundation, the NeuCoin Growth Foundation, and the NeuCoin Utility Foundation, which, I might add, are Non-Profit. It is not like a greedy developer premining 2 billion coins so as to cash in greatly when the prices rise. These coins will fund the growth and development of the coin and its organization.
  Again, 2 billion coins seems like an enormous overkill, and I think they should have rethought that figure a little more before going live with the public announcement and sale. Either they are devaluing the cost of the coin after launch, or they are overinflating what it takes to run a day to day operation, not sure which. All I have to offer is again, that the foundations are determined Non-Profit. Looking at a lot of Non-Profit organizations in today's society, however, is not very assuring. So we will just have to see.
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But I implore you, look at the bigger picture, and ask yourself - "Would not cryptocurrency and this whole creation of giving the control back to the people benefit more from a wider adoption by the common man?"... And I believe NeuCoin is one of the companies leading the way.

Sorry to say this, but you have not understood one tiny little bit of the NeuCoin-concept.

  And what, Sir, might I have missed. I only touched on a few key points that are of interest to me. I fully understand that there is more, oh so much more behind their strategy, but my post merely emphasized the adoption of cryptocurrency by the common consumer. This is what I believe will drive the growth of cryptocurrency, today, and into the future. The more people know about and understand what cryptocurrency is, how to obtain it, and how to use it, the more it will be adopted into the mainstream of the common consumer, not just the core technical clientele.
  From Neucoin.org I quote -
   "NeuCoin believes that a digital currency could achieve mainstream adoption if it were free to try out, easy to use, and offered some real, immediate utility to make consumers want to come back for more. This is NeuCoin’s vision.
  NeuCoin’s plan to get there is to use coin distribution as a strategic tool to create a virtuous cycle of token buyers and adoption that keeps growing the cryptocurrency’s utility. By using the foundations’ pre-mined coins and capital from buyers to build real utility for regular consumers and effectively acquire and retain mainstream users, NeuCoin aims to be the first digital currency to reach mass adoption."
  So forgive my ineptitude, but do please enlighten me. I am always open and willing to learn more.
legendary
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Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political
I believe that for a cryptocurrency or alternate payment system to be successful, and to really achieve what the true aim of cryptocurrency is - decentralization not issued by any central authority, immune to government interference or manipulation. A currency for the people, by the people, and governed by the people - not by some bigwig, money grubbing, "we make the rules" authority 

So lets see here... neucoin team is keeping 2 billion coins to themselves while selling 100 million to the public (for about $900,000)...Can you explain again how is this coin is not "issued by a bigwig money grubing authority" ?  What am I missing?
legendary
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But I implore you, look at the bigger picture, and ask yourself - "Would not cryptocurrency and this whole creation of giving the control back to the people benefit more from a wider adoption by the common man?"... And I believe NeuCoin is one of the companies leading the way.

Sorry to say this, but you have not understood one tiny little bit of the NeuCoin-concept.
newbie
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Hi All NeuCoin fans,

i just noticed an announcement on the neucoin forum.
There is now a NeuCoin Forum TippingBot
It was announced here: http://forum.neucoin.org/t/neucoin-forum-tipping-bot-live-during-pre-release/897
and works with virtual neucoins (converted to real neucoins as soon as neucoin launches).

the bot gives away this free neucoin now even before the official launch, with the following statement:
"The goal of this bot is to encourage the community to engage with each other in a discussion about how we can grow the community. What marketing tools we have, and where we can find new community members.

Like the image with the circle "coin sale -> utily -> users ->" in the strategic plan tells us, it is now time to start using NeuCoin!"


Let me be the first to say, please tip me (it is free):  Grin
 http://tipneu.com/tip/DEMO62461DEMO60865DEMO
hero member
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  Such hatred and disdain for a coin that looks promising. I don't really get it. Sure, some of the factors behind Neucoin are a rehash, if I may, of coins that come before. However, I do think that they have some innovative approaches to some of the failings of prior cryptocurrency. If you want to get in, get in. If not, well, sit back and watch us early adopters cry over our spilled milk if it should falter. I personally have invested 1.5BTC in this project. Not a lot by anyone's standard, but I believe that in the end, it will be an investment that at least breaks a little above even. I acquired said 1.5BTC just the same as I have in many of my financial dealings and investments. I took risks. Some less risky and with a shorter span of ROI, but in the end, I knew what I was getting into.
  I believe that one of the core factors of Neucoin is what every new cryptocurrency should adopt. Marketing and wide market awareness. I have seen many coins, including just recently, make an [ANN] thread, and boom - "Let's start POW" or "Let's start POS". No reaching out to the public with general marketing, name recognition, and a "brand" image. Were those coins successful? Some were - most were not. I believe that for a cryptocurrency or alternate payment system to be successful, and to really achieve what the true aim of cryptocurrency is - decentralization not issued by any central authority, immune to government interference or manipulation. A currency for the people, by the people, and governed by the people - not by some bigwig, money grubbing, "we make the rules" authority that could care less about the average citizen - it needs to reach the full scope of the public for which it was created to benefit. IMHO, NeuCoin has started the ball rolling by reaching out to the people with marketing, transparency, and a desire to educate those that otherwise wouldn't even know what cryptocurrency is even about.
  I am new to mining, and cryptocurrency in general, so I am not at all an authority on the ways and means of this great creation that is beginning to take hold worldwide. As more and more people are educated and can truly understand at least the basics behind an alternate currency system, the more promising cryptocurrency will become. I applaud NeuCoin for taking the extra steps in getting the message "out there" to the general public. Some of the things, I might not agree with some aspects, but you take the good with the bad. Adjustments will have to be made. Paths will have to be re-directed. In the end, however, I believe NeuCoin is on a track for success.
  That all being said. Flame me if you will. But I implore you, look at the bigger picture, and ask yourself - "Would not cryptocurrency and this whole creation of giving the control back to the people benefit more from a wider adoption by the common man?" "Would not it be grand if everyone, from Joe the Plumber, to Margeurite the Florist, knew that there was a better, and in that same token, a simpler way?" I bid you yes. This is how this system will grow and thrive and become the next, possibly replacement, of monetary transactions.
  Thank you for allowing me to put in my two cents. If I have offended anyone, I apologize. This was not meant as an angry rant, or noxious hatepost. I am just offering my opinion on what I believe needs to happen in order for crytocurrency to grow and become a well established system. And I believe NeuCoin is one of the companies leading the way. Thanks, and have a great rest of your weekend.
sr. member
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I like the approach to build a coin for the purpose of solving the user adoption problem. The only solution can be a well equipped faucet. If the dumping restrictions work out and the foundations do a good job, this could be a success for the crypto community as a whole. POS mining with huge interest rates at the beginning is a good mix IMO to motivate users to secure the network. I just wish the very powerful foundations will do it well.
legendary
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Same shit like Viral croudfunding. Scammers are greedy these days. I guess 90% of these buys are selfbuys to increase the hype  Undecided

Seriously, who is investing in a tip bot neudoge fuckery?

Viral has Adam guebrez as a dev, its not scammers. I have invested and I feel very comfortable doing so. He's got a big ego but he's also know how to make networks and make money.

This Adam Guerbuez? Be proud, my son.


"A company that videotaped and marketed real attacks on local vagrants probably won't face the wrath of the law, according to local police.

Six separate files were opened relating to the matter, but because there were no official plainitiffs, there has been little progress. "I'd be very surprised if anything is new on it," says Sgt. Michel Fontaine of the Montreal police.

The organizer of the site, Adam Guerbuez, an admitted white-power skinhead who says he has left the movement, claims to have sold several thousand of the $20 videos and attracted 9,000 more paid subscribers to the site, www. crazypricks.com. He has since disconnected his mobile phone and taken his site down."




sr. member
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Same shit like Viral croudfunding. Scammers are greedy these days. I guess 90% of these buys are selfbuys to increase the hype  Undecided

Seriously, who is investing in a tip bot neudoge fuckery?

Viral has Adam guebrez as a dev, its not scammers. I have invested and I feel very comfortable doing so. He's got a big ego but he's also know how to make networks and make money.
legendary
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Degenerate Crypto Gambler
Same shit like Viral croudfunding. Scammers are greedy these days. I guess 90% of these buys are selfbuys to increase the hype  Undecided

Seriously, who is investing in a tip bot neudoge fuckery?
sr. member
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"to endure to achieve"
One of the big differences I see with NeuCoin compared to all those other projects I have seen, is this:
 
Strategic Angels

Those contacts are 100% important if you want to succeed!
If you can bridge out to the public masses you will have a great chance for adoption!
It's the only way - spread the word to the masses, and you will multiply the user-base!
legendary
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Absolutely shocking to see this. No blockchain, no source code, nothing palpable, nothing of substance. Just promises and that's it. Oh, and some shady fucks that made an incredible amount of money in a few days.

I guess that this is what you can do with a great marketing plan. I thought that the lowest of the low was to clone a shitcoin, generate a roadmap in photoshop and then list it on some exchanges. Now you can do it with only a roadmap. WTF!

Edit: Also, take a look at their facebook page. So many investors, so many CEO's from other companies, yet only 500 likes per total and 2 comments under each post ? WTF ?. They want to take over the world, but this thread has 18 pages since February ? I've seen 18 pages generated in 2 hours on CRAVEcoin. LOL!

hero member
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By the way, the presale is over!



Thanks a lot to the community members who have supported us.

Congratulations. You have just helped a millionaire with a demonstratively shady track record extract another million dollars out of wide eyed teenagers and dumb people. Enjoy your well earned holiday. The Seychelles, perhaps? It's lovely this time of year.
newbie
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By the way, the presale is over!



Thanks a lot to the community members who have supported us.
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