Topic: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official - page 25. (Read 196239 times)

Solitare, perfectly timed for the masses?

Maybe give it some thought!

Yeah, James, Torrgeek, Dart and Sith all still cling on to a few.
But I know one man that owns BILLIONS.
clue - He ran a dodgy spyware company previously. When the shit hit the fan said " I never even had an operational role at DR despite being a co-founder."
Therefore he was clearly innocent...  
As long as he has an "operational" role in nokoin, not a "back seat" it'll be fine, don't worry... Oh wait where is he? oh shit...


Anyway, the charade goes on.
The buy walls replenished.

Now a new distribution review.
http://forum.neucoin.org/t/distribution-review-december-9/2326

James is first (only) to respond,
"thanks for detailed and transparent update"

So James, as it is so detailed and transparent to you , please enlighten me as to who the "strategic advisers" are on the service providers list?
12,000,000 nokoin, "worth" ~ $60,000+ at todays price fix, for "strategic advisers". so far.
No names, No faces, No singularly identifiable address.
(also design services, marketing services, community services, ect - Is sandrine freelancing?)


Also, tipping and game launch announced.
http://forum.neucoin.org/t/first-facebook-game-and-tipping-platform-on-jango-launching-in-2-weeks/2325
Now we can see clearly how nokoin will achieve "1 million users" in year one.

500,000 "users" will tip FREE nokoin to artists on jango.
(Artists can then "gain even greater exposure on Jango and other promotional benefits." basically give it back to Dan. No sell restricted.)
500,000 "users" will play SOLITAIRE.
(really? how boring. James "I love the game solitaire". Of course you do James. Of course you do.   )

Dan owning jango, the figures will be fudged.
There WILL BE 1,000,000 nokoin USERS.

And James WILL believe it.

Maybe some thoughts,

the perfect timing is all it takes!

Are there any neucoin holdouts left?

Is anyone still holding these coins??

Anyone??? 

I guess that appears unlikely as we're already several months in and at a 50% loss.

Oh wait, that was just a sockpuppet anyway. 

you already answered yourself 4 months ago

LOL now even the angel investors are in the red That was fast

Compare the price trends of BTC and NoKoin and it is clear that whoever still holds nokoin is banging their heads against the wall

Nokoin supporters (whatever is left of them!) like Dart and Torrgeek are too embarrassed to show up here again... there are not enough palms for those faces!

With the two new buy walls at 0.000018 and 0.000017 the neucon regime/Daniel K bought some time (and some more of their own crap coins ).
They want this thing to die slowly. Bitcoin funds shrinking accordingly https://blockchain.info/address/3MrNuksZ1VePU3dGiSQFiouWerJUJgDkfH

Somebody dumped --> buy-wall at 2000 sat is gone. 

Thanks Alex,

Yeah, that is what I said, 95.93% interest rate now, if you stake.
Shame Profirofthegods is so so so so so unlucky.

Anyway, have you sold up yet?
ONLY 2.5 btc buy orders left.

Out of context that can be misinterpreted. To explain fully, your interest rate is the daily pct * Days Held * reward pct.

With Reward pct being an array {100.00, 97.54, 95.93, 94.35, 92.78, 91.24, 89.72, etc.. } and being the first entry if transaction occurred in month 1, the second in month 2, etc... with the month being calculated as the transaction's previous block height / 43836

Oh yeah, of course.
Order book (chart) looking rather different too.

Popcorn.

The team account bought it all.
And wow it's 3 BTC to zero!!! The regime must hurry 

NOKOINERS ALERT.

Sell wall OBLITERATED.

Only 3 btc left on Bittrex - TOTAL.

Dart, Torrgeek?

Thanks Scam,

That's what I thought. It just adding 0.25%ish of a day each year to allow for leap year.
Not "the interest rate".
Would make little difference to any calculation. ~ 0.02% per month. Irrelevant to my/our figures.

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Profitofthegods - "300k nokoin and still no stake after 5.5 weeks?"
Using nokoins own estimates, Profitofthegods should have staked ~5.5 times. (imo)
If he has his wallet set up properly, then he is very, very, very, very, very unlucky.
Or nokoin just don't work right.

hash(kernel) < target * balance of UTXO
versus Peercoin's mining equation:
hash(kernel) < target * balance of UTXO * time weight
I always thought nokoin got this wrong. (I even suggested to them this maybe the case.)
There is nothing to push small UTXO's to the top of the trust pile
Therefore, there is no reason small UTXO's will ever stake "this block"
And so that goes on forever. In fact getting harder every block as large UTXO's get larger and even MORE dominant.
Pure luck may intervene. (or 23rd of the month attack may open opportunities)

When will Profitofthegods realise it ain't happening?
His nokoin value being destroyed by nokoin, er, "team" inflation.
How much shit can these nokoiners take!

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Profitofthegods, may I explain. (again)

Sandrine said, "The math to figure out the expected rewards is pretty simple. It boils down to: what percent of TOTAL NeuCoins being staked are being staked by an individual miner.... For simplicity, let’s assume that 100% of all existing NeuCoins are staking all the time... a miner with a starting stake of 70,000 NeuCoins would be expected to mint once every 30 days"

Ergo, 300,000 nokoin stake  ~ once a week.
That is not happening.

Now you have a new problem. Your % of total nokoin has fallen ~15% since launch.
Now you have ~ 15% LESS chance of staking than you had.

Also, The interest rate is falling.
You are missing the good times.

If you ever stake, the rate will be lower. You will receive less reward. You have less nokoin to compound. Less time to compound in.
It's broken.
You lose at every turn.

Looks like NoKoiners are starting to realize what Bitcointalk trolls have persisted in saying, namely that, NoKoin is an insolent rich-get-richer-scheme:


http://forum.neucoin.org/t/public-pos-stakes-being-orphaned-by-foundation-account-stakes/2289/4

and further:

The reason magicking is not able to provide "a convincing argument that this is not happening" is simple: It is happening. But I would not call it an "issue" because it's deliberately an integral part of NoKoin's unfair design:

Not much relevance. It just means when calculating the block reward you calculate with 365.2424 days to express one year. It doesn't mean that "the actual interest rate hardcoded into the count is approx 0.2424 pct a day".

Speaking of buy walls - geez Daniel and the regime had to buy a lot of their own crap again.




As for Sandrine Ayral whether she left or just did not want to be in the limelight anymore, it doesn't really matter - she participated long enough, she was pointed to the forest of red flags, she willingly denied and omitted criticism, she still doesn't distinguish herself from the Neucon scam.
TL;DR she's waist-deep in it.

Btw: Today I archieved this:

https://web.archive.org/web/20151207095641/http://forum.neucoin.org/t/public-pos-stakes-being-orphaned-by-foundation-account-stakes/2289/30

The last two posts (29 and 30 from THEroot) are already deleted.

Original: http://forum.neucoin.org/t/public-pos-stakes-being-orphaned-by-foundation-account-stakes/2289/27

I believe it's complex. If we think about scams in general, than there are different types of Scams. Totally intentionally: Somebody starts a project with the intention to take the money, from an ICO for example - and abandon right after it. Or in a grey-area: Not with the intention to scam, but with much greed and dishonesty and just blinding PR instead of base-qualities, a lot of promises to hype but no real progress, market-manipulation etc. All with the intention to start a hype, because just and only because of a big hype there would be any chance.

And the second scheme is Neucoin. I believe that they don't see themselves as Scammer. I believe, that they are naive and unprofessional, that they were blinded by the own propaganda. If I'm right it's kind of self-manipulation.

Regarding Sandrine... again, just speculation: Maybe she believed in it in the beginning, was also blinded like many Investors, thought to have a chance to be part of the next big thing in Crypto, also to get rich. And after being part of it... it's not that easy to get out. I agree that she knew enough, that she should have been able to figure out what would come. But I don't believe that she had a clear scam-intention. What's important to keep in mind: There is also a lot of manipulation inside a group, inside a team. Somebody wants to leave? What's the reaction of the others? Attempts to convince, maybe pressure on ones conscience etc. It's not that easy I believe. And she maybe believed too long in this and maybe she simply was too loyal to leave earlier. And people often believe that there maybe could be some kind of miracle... like Investors often do. Like some Neucoin-Investors still do.

And her intention to leave was mainly that she finally figured that Neucoin is a credibility-killer for everybody who is in front. And she was the one in front... If she is still in contact with the team doesn't matter. Also if she really has another job is not that relevant I would say. Her problem is that she is associated with it because she was a little late.

What's interesting in this: For investors this is bad. But for those who are part of the team it's worse. I don't believe that anybody really made money. The ICO is mainly self-buying and they had some costs, the price is down, they have to buy back on the market to maintain the illusion that it's a legit project.... but it's just a question of time. It doesn't need much to break the buywalls.

And all what they've promised... No professional will touch this. The only way is market-manipulation and that costs money and it never lasts long. In some months Neu is irrelevant.