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Topic: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official - page 29. (Read 196191 times)

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As expected, supertrucker gets bullshit answer:

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http://forum.neucoin.org/t/why-does-estimated-stake-time-decrease-steadily/2251

NoKoiners really should read more Bitcointalk:

Hey Myeportal, nokoin investor.  Huh
You're staking 3500 nokoin.

With 3500 nokoin staking It will take 18 months, on average, to mint.
You might get lucky and mint sooner,
You might get unlucky and it will take longer to mint.

If you mint in 18 months, as expected, you will get 75% interest. (the monthly rate at that time) = 3940 nokoin interest.
In 18 months founders will have minted and compounded 150x a day =  10,000 nokoin interest.

But will you mint in 18 months?
In 1 years time there are expected to be 8bn nokoin.
You have not minted yet (in 1 year), on average, so still own 3500 nokoin (your original stake)
Founders have minted about 6000 nokoin (on top of their 3500 original stake)
So now there are more than twice as many nokoin.

Now your nokoin are likely, on average, to mint in maybe 4 years.
At the end of year 2, you still own 3500 nokoin, on average. (because yo still haven't minted)
Now your odds of minting are once in 8 years.
You have staked 2 years, now you have 6 years staking left, on average, before you mint.

Even if you now get "lucky", you will only get 67% interest x 24 month = 4620 nokoin
founders will have accrued  compounded interest = 13000 nokoin + (probably vastly more)

You need 100,000 nokoin at least to get anywhere near founders interest rate. (which is withheld from us) Even then you will be left behind faster and faster because of the "super" compounding by founders. (and team ect)

Myeportal, you WILL be an unlucky miner. So will everyone like you.
On average, you will NEVER mint.

TBF nokoin team did warn against "small" nokoiners staking.
But not this clearly why they have no chance of success.
The founders get exponentially richer compared to EVERYBODY else.
Not just the little guy.
It's a ponzi.

(these founders coin coming to the market soon....)

I would be happy for nokoin Project to show us otherwise. Though I don't expect they can.
(these are approx figures. But clearer than theirs at present)
legendary
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Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political
neucoin and DanK warning people against fraud. 

Now that's funny!  Smiley
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Totally awesome!

This leecher has leeched 70000 free NoKoins and he transferred all his NoKoins to one single address on Bittrex: http://neucoin.io/address/NgAadMPj6hxTuWDniAYjfvFcDZFoQWwZNq

He took 67 surveys (1000 NOK each) and now he is leeching getneucoin.com (50 NoKoins each).

Altogether 70000 free NoKoins. Dart and the other duped presale buyers paid 2.8 BTC for that amount of NoKoins...


How can one single person have so many phone numbers? LOLOLOLOL

There are thousands of sites like this on the internet: http://receivefreesms.com/

Select one of the numbers listed and you find this:





Congrats @leecher for scamming the scammers! Welcome @NoKoin to the internet!


Another leecher here (he took 25 surveys): http://neucoin.io/address/NP2BApXYQoDb2VAmGtZ22PqefXB73AaXiu
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I would really like to know...

Hey Alex,

your last post on NoKoin forum was deleted (your reply to Dart) here http://forum.neucoin.org/t/neucoin-org-still-shows-the-qt-1-0-0-release/2225/

(didn't seem delete worthy to me...)

Did anyone tell you why it was deleted? Too much truth?


Outrageous.

(also the reddit Gekko posted about. https://www.reddit.com/r/neucoin/comments/3socgn/warning_neucoin_mods_are_censoring_posts/ Deleted, Deleted, Deleted, Magicking "Just cleaning FUD, unrelated items, attacks etc.." Deleted, Deleted...)

After Superman, master of meaninglessness, tried to explain away the nokoin team exodous to Brutus, Dart chipped in,

"Mark worked on marketing, Kourosh helped with the white paper. I haven't seen anything that says arcanis has left."

So Brutus comes back,
"Here you are @The Harsh Guy https://fr.linkedin.com/in/maelnison"

The link shows that arcanis HAS also left.

A couple of posts later Alex basically told Dart (now deleted) to stop making false/inaccurate statements that can be proven with a quick google search, because in his position as mod, he should know these things, or check first before shilling.

Dart not seen for 18 hours, so he did not delete.
Alex did however @Dart, so Dart will receive an email. He will have the post.

Deleted by Acorn, the "team" cover tag. Covering the fact that there is no team.
Only Magicking, and Dank. Maybe Ophille, who knows. Who cares?


Dart should care. Shilling this nokoin all year. Just because HE invested, because HE was fooled by the massive list of names.
Dart, a newbie, inexperienced, deceived and misled by nokoin, left to shill, misinform, and defend nokoin. As has always been the case.
nokoin needed that vocal blind faith on their forum. It saved them from having to lie themselves, so much.

Dart WHEN will you open your eyes to reality.
You must at least have SERIOUS doubts.
You have been used by nokoin for deflection purposes. lmo.
Because you never have understood what you talk about. What you push on others.
(btw, how much have you been paid, if you don't mind me asking?)

Take a look around Dart. Time to ask yourself questions.


edit. Dart has read this and has now private messaged Acorn. Awaiting response.

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I would really like to know...

Hey Alex,

your last post on NoKoin forum was deleted (your reply to Dart) here http://forum.neucoin.org/t/neucoin-org-still-shows-the-qt-1-0-0-release/2225/

(didn't seem delete worthy to me...)

Did anyone tell you why it was deleted? Too much truth?
legendary
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bad distribution plus hyperinflation, what can go wrong?
legendary
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@Neucon team
It's now week 8 after the postponed launch

97.5% of all accounts own less than 0.37% of total coin supply...
That means the regime 2.5% percent of all accounts own all the coins 99.63% of the total coin supply...

Was Neucon not designed for the masses?
Was Neucon not supposed to be decentralized?
When will the distribution start?
Where is the promised transparency?
Why are you still the only buyers of your own crap?
Why are you still advertising this failure?

Compared to the NoKoin regime Kim Jong-un looks like a bloody amateur.
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This coin is a Joke, they promised 10,000 NEUS to the survey respondents, and they are only giving 70!!! Prior to receive the coins you must give them all your personal information!

Stay away from this fraud guys. Surely they will resell your personal data.



legendary
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Cointelegraph still advertising this crapcoin along with some others. 

Cointelegraph will advertise any crap if they are paid for it, ie paycoin and neucoin. Takes a lot of credibility away from them in my opinion.
legendary
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Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political
Cointelegraph still advertising this crapcoin along with some others. 
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So, Tippy Acorn the squirrel now seems to run nokoin. Taking over after Sandrines masterful escape. (even tippy uses sock accounts, lol)
nokoin, a company holding $35m of imaginary assets, run by a cute imaginary sock account squirrel.

(Ok, Sandrine was cute, definite 7/10, but, sorry Sandrine, Acorn is much cuter. 9/10 lmo. Look at those little hands. Those little ears, Aah.. )
http://forum.neucoin.org/users/acorn/activity
(Oh btw Acorn, Could you remove Sandrine from the about page please, if you can be bothered to keep up the pretence, sorry, it looks like Sandrine still works at nokoin, lol. You got Mark off the list quick enough! well done for that. credit where it is due there!)  Wink
http://forum.neucoin.org/about

But at least Sandrine was accountable to some extent, she could, and still can be, taken to court. She can be sued.
Not clear if Acorn would end up in the supreme court or some kind of animal sanctuary.
Are Acorns' posts/statements/advice legally admissable in such an event?

Sandrine took her share of 200m nokoin when she fied, I guess.
(and Mark, but nobody noticed him leave, lol. At least Sandrine had masses of nearly 15 nokoiners say goodbye)
So, how much will Acorn get paid. How many million nokoin?
Another superstar team member contract signed? (by those cute little squirrel hands, Aah)

The founders 300m nokoin reward is never mentioned/ignored.
(even though it is in the wp. One of the additional payments on top of the publicised 500m nokoin team rewards)
So don't worry Acorn, I dont expect a squirrel to fess up either.
(anyway, nobody else want nokoin, except to cash in, so help yourself. Like the other team members.)

Acorn, this WHOLE project is totally NUTS.
So I'm wondering, why would an imaginary SQUIRREL be interested?


(or an imaginary whale for that matter)



Hey Acorn,

No worries, leave sandrine on the staff list if it's to much trouble for you.
If you cant be bothered to keep up the pretence that this is not a dead koin.
http://forum.neucoin.org/about

After all, Arcanis is still listed, even though he was kicked off the company board along with Sandrine.
https://www.gov.im/lib/docs/ded/companies/companiesReg/Foundations/foundationsactregister.pdf  (link from scam c.)
Oh, and Ludpo? Last seen Feb 23. Never posted. Just another redundant name?
http://forum.neucoin.org/users/ludpo/activity
Or Ludovic, never posted. Ludpo/Ludovic are same person, yes?
http://forum.neucoin.org/users/ludovic/activity
Also looks like Whateveryousayman mod has gone.
http://forum.neucoin.org/users/whateveryousayman/activity
And even Baby mod?
http://forum.neucoin.org/users/btc2you4free/activity

Second thoughts Acorn, maybe you better do that update, this is getting a bit ridiculous now, even for nokoin.

Btw Acorn, If you ever do any more updates, maybe address this also?

Brutus has just joined nokoin forum, and asks,
"Hi @Sandrine ! Where is the post about Growth Accounts? Thanks!"

You know Acorn, the update Sandrine said she would post 5/6 weeks ago.
http://forum.neucoin.org/t/growth-account-growth-rate/1436/29
Sorry I didn't remind her, (my fault, that is my job after all)  I had a grump on. I felt undervalued.
I've not received 1 single nokoin in payment for all my hard work trying to keep the nokoin team on their toes.
Not 1 single nokoin for trying to keep nokoiners updated and informed.
(Nok01N154l0AdoFCR4Pimo50rRyTo54Y)

Anyways, it's probably worth posting something, more pie in the sky. Even just a repeat of the old "We are working really hard, and in the next few months you will see..... (maybe drop the massive list of names in here too, just for good measure, that will probably look really professional, erm, yeah, probably.)


Yeah, I thought Brutus was gonna be trouble.
Now Brutus is asking where everybody is on the nokoin forum, What happened to all the devs?
http://forum.neucoin.org/t/neucoin-org-still-shows-the-qt-1-0-0-release/2225/2

If you cant be bothered Acorn, maybe send Sith in to sort it out? He's a very nice young man. Very convincing.
Or Superman? The master of meaninglessness.

Someone should say something on the nokoin forum. (unless we will be announcing the closure of nokoin before Christmas?)
The lack of communication,
The disappearing team,
The absence of progress, in anything,

It's all getting too obvious.
nokoin, where nothing ever gets done.


PS. please remind Takla (his nokon name) to keep his promise to give free nokoin
https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/42510-neucoin-get-it-free-75-the-best-new-coin/
Enough promises of free nokoin have already been broken.

And action...

Superman, master of meaninglessness,  is sent in first to explain the missing devs,
"...they are extremely busy.... they are improving its organization structures.... there was a major terrorist attack in Paris....NeuCoin is doing fine as usual."
http://forum.neucoin.org/t/neucoin-org-still-shows-the-qt-1-0-0-release/2225/4

And the growth account rates superman?

Superman says "Check below link." (link to pos rates, not growth account rates)
"I am one of Neucoin Community Members like you..."
http://forum.neucoin.org/t/growth-account-growth-rate/1436/32

Superman you know nothing. As predicted.
Send in Sith...
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So, Tippy Acorn the squirrel now seems to run nokoin. Taking over after Sandrines masterful escape. (even tippy uses sock accounts, lol)
nokoin, a company holding $35m of imaginary assets, run by a cute imaginary sock account squirrel.

(Ok, Sandrine was cute, definite 7/10, but, sorry Sandrine, Acorn is much cuter. 9/10 lmo. Look at those little hands. Those little ears, Aah.. )
http://forum.neucoin.org/users/acorn/activity
(Oh btw Acorn, Could you remove Sandrine from the about page please, if you can be bothered to keep up the pretence, sorry, it looks like Sandrine still works at nokoin, lol. You got Mark off the list quick enough! well done for that. credit where it is due there!)  Wink
http://forum.neucoin.org/about

But at least Sandrine was accountable to some extent, she could, and still can be, taken to court. She can be sued.
Not clear if Acorn would end up in the supreme court or some kind of animal sanctuary.
Are Acorns' posts/statements/advice legally admissable in such an event?

Sandrine took her share of 200m nokoin when she fied, I guess.
(and Mark, but nobody noticed him leave, lol. At least Sandrine had masses of nearly 15 nokoiners say goodbye)
So, how much will Acorn get paid. How many million nokoin?
Another superstar team member contract signed? (by those cute little squirrel hands, Aah)

The founders 300m nokoin reward is never mentioned/ignored.
(even though it is in the wp. One of the additional payments on top of the publicised 500m nokoin team rewards)
So don't worry Acorn, I dont expect a squirrel to fess up either.
(anyway, nobody else want nokoin, except to cash in, so help yourself. Like the other team members.)

Acorn, this WHOLE project is totally NUTS.
So I'm wondering, why would an imaginary SQUIRREL be interested?


(or an imaginary whale for that matter)



Hey Acorn,

No worries, leave sandrine on the staff list if it's to much trouble for you.
If you cant be bothered to keep up the pretence that this is not a dead koin.
http://forum.neucoin.org/about

After all, Arcanis is still listed, even though he was kicked off the company board along with Sandrine.
https://www.gov.im/lib/docs/ded/companies/companiesReg/Foundations/foundationsactregister.pdf  (link from scam c.)
Oh, and Ludpo? Last seen Feb 23. Never posted. Just another redundant name?
http://forum.neucoin.org/users/ludpo/activity
Or Ludovic, never posted. Ludpo/Ludovic are same person, yes?
http://forum.neucoin.org/users/ludovic/activity
Also looks like Whateveryousayman mod has gone.
http://forum.neucoin.org/users/whateveryousayman/activity
And even Baby mod?
http://forum.neucoin.org/users/btc2you4free/activity

Second thoughts Acorn, maybe you better do that update, this is getting a bit ridiculous now, even for nokoin.

Btw Acorn, If you ever do any more updates, maybe address this also?

Brutus has just joined nokoin forum, and asks,
"Hi @Sandrine ! Where is the post about Growth Accounts? Thanks!"

You know Acorn, the update Sandrine said she would post 5/6 weeks ago.
http://forum.neucoin.org/t/growth-account-growth-rate/1436/29
Sorry I didn't remind her, (my fault, that is my job after all)  I had a grump on. I felt undervalued.
I've not received 1 single nokoin in payment for all my hard work trying to keep the nokoin team on their toes.
Not 1 single nokoin for trying to keep nokoiners updated and informed.
(Nok01N154l0AdoFCR4Pimo50rRyTo54Y)

Anyways, it's probably worth posting something, more pie in the sky. Even just a repeat of the old "We are working really hard, and in the next few months you will see..... (maybe drop the massive list of names in here too, just for good measure, that will probably look really professional, erm, yeah, probably.)


Yeah, I thought Brutus was gonna be trouble.
Now Brutus is asking where everybody is on the nokoin forum, What happened to all the devs?
http://forum.neucoin.org/t/neucoin-org-still-shows-the-qt-1-0-0-release/2225/2

If you cant be bothered Acorn, maybe send Sith in to sort it out? He's a very nice young man. Very convincing.
Or Superman? The master of meaninglessness.

Someone should say something on the nokoin forum. (unless we will be announcing the closure of nokoin before Christmas?)
The lack of communication,
The disappearing team,
The absence of progress, in anything,

It's all getting too obvious.
nokoin, where nothing ever gets done.


PS. please remind Takla (his nokon name) to keep his promise to give free nokoin
https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/42510-neucoin-get-it-free-75-the-best-new-coin/
Enough promises of free nokoin have already been broken.
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I AM
Acorn is a stupid name, It makes no sense I tell You!!


Tipppyyyyy
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DanK is angry.

One of his puppets at Reddit, https://www.reddit.com/user/ShowerTeeth doxxed me this morning, and I had him promptly deleted and banned.

Shortly afterwards, I was banned from posting on /r/Neucoin, and this thread appeared from someone else:

https://www.reddit.com/r/neucoin/comments/3socgn/warning_neucoin_mods_are_censoring_posts/

Deluge Reddit.


NoKoin is so centralized that even all three Reddit /r/neucoin moderators are part of the NoKoin regime (Ophie, Alexandra, Sylvain):

https://www.reddit.com/r/neucoin/about/moderators

Well, in their defense, who the hell else is gonna be a mod?  There is only 80 people signed to that sub.  Neucoin is not a exactly a trendy meme.  And half of the 80 people are there to hate on it.  And half of those who aren't of our ilk gave up long ago.

Much like Neucoin.org, there are about 15 people there, and Torgeek, who are still Beleibers.  

oh lol http://redditmetrics.com/r/neucoin


BTW: Sylvain is working on a tip bot for Reddit: https://github.com/Magicking/altcointip

Is this the "tipping application" NoKoiners are eagerly waiting for?

(I was expecting something more like changetip...)
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DanK is angry.

One of his puppets at Reddit, https://www.reddit.com/user/ShowerTeeth doxxed me this morning, and I had him promptly deleted and banned.

Shortly afterwards, I was banned from posting on /r/Neucoin, and this thread appeared from someone else:

https://www.reddit.com/r/neucoin/comments/3socgn/warning_neucoin_mods_are_censoring_posts/

Deluge Reddit.


NoKoin is so centralized that even all three Reddit /r/neucoin moderators are part of the NoKoin regime (Ophie, Alexandra, Sylvain):

https://www.reddit.com/r/neucoin/about/moderators

Well, in their defense, who the hell else is gonna be a mod?  There is only 80 people signed to that sub.  Neucoin is not a exactly a trendy meme.  And half of the 80 people are there to hate on it.  And half of those who aren't of our ilk gave up long ago.

Much like Neucoin.org, there are about 15 people there, and Torgeek, who are still Beleibers.   
hero member
Activity: 630
Merit: 500
DanK is angry.

One of his puppets at Reddit, https://www.reddit.com/user/ShowerTeeth doxxed me this morning, and I had him promptly deleted and banned.

Shortly afterwards, I was banned from posting on /r/Neucoin, and this thread appeared from someone else:

https://www.reddit.com/r/neucoin/comments/3socgn/warning_neucoin_mods_are_censoring_posts/

Deluge Reddit.


NoKoin is so centralized that even all three Reddit /r/neucoin moderators are part of the NoKoin regime (Ophie, Alexandra, Sylvain):

https://www.reddit.com/r/neucoin/about/moderators
legendary
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I did some research and I knew that NEU is pretty centralized and based more on hype and advertising than on technical innovation, but I thought it would still be fun to get a few thousand to take advantage of the 100% PoS rate.

The problem is that, in the weeks I held this coin, I never staked once. If you don't own millions of NEU, you just aren't likely ever to stake, due to the sheer massive staking power of the billions of coins held by the Neucoin foundation. As a small holder, this is a major deal breaker and barrier to mainstream adoption.

If they are serious about improving distribution, Neucoin should seriously consider turning off staking and letting other people find a block once in a while.

Some remarks:

Neucon is the definition of centralized.
PoS coins can be fun, but not if non-regime coins have a slower growth rate than team-member coins - you will always lose compared to the regime.
As a small owner you can only decide whether to lose in a quick (by just holding) or a slower way (by storing all your coins in growth accounts). Growth accounts grow slower than "really staking" accounts because, yeah, the team wants to earn with you. Plus if you want to cancel early, the team takes all of your earnings. It goes without saying that you will always lose if you consider the inflation rate.
The regime holds 99% percent of all coins and cannot turn off their staking for security reasons. They can do rollbacks as they please, they only give out coins if they now your personal data (fb-account, cell number, email and more).

Neucon: Where lies and incompetence go hand in hand.
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I did some research and I knew that NEU is pretty centralized and based more on hype and advertising than on technical innovation, but I thought it would still be fun to get a few thousand to take advantage of the 100% PoS rate.

The problem is that, in the weeks I held this coin, I never staked once. If you don't own millions of NEU, you just aren't likely ever to stake, due to the sheer massive staking power of the billions of coins held by the Neucoin foundation. As a small holder, this is a major deal breaker and barrier to mainstream adoption.

If they are serious about improving distribution, Neucoin should seriously consider turning off staking and letting other people find a block once in a while.
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