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Topic: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official - page 54. (Read 196243 times)

legendary
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Someone, or something is trying very hard to murder neucoin on cryptsy. They have been since launch. The price has been driven down repeatedly by sell walls. Someone holds 2.35mil on bittrex in a single wallet. Someone is trying to hoard neu. We will see the walls lifted within the month and we will see an above normal spike in price back up to 6k+. People are starting to stake and the network hash rate has quadrupled within the past week. Very interesting to see what is going on with neu.

I'm not too familiar with trading but I thought the sell walls were because people wanted to get rid of their coin? I also thought that the one bittrex wallet was someone in neucoin where they would buy to support the price and not let it go down further? Can someone please explain to me what's going on in the exchanges? It's pretty fascinating and I'd like to learn more Smiley

lol.  you're right Mindi.  sell walls isn't hoarding, it's the opposite.  anyway, I think Tempus' theory that little coins were actually sold is probably true...and as we can see on cryptsy, the volume is pretty low.  I think some of the actual presale buyers dumped their coins and that's why the price went from .00006 to .000037.
Some people are trying to buy lower, but right now little is being sold or bought.  Holding long term is risky because the foundation can dump huge amounts anytime they want.  This makes buying the coin for speculation unattractive.

Yeah, they probably worked all that time dump for zero profit.. are you listening to yourself ?

The have a million dollars of your money dumbass.  They can dump it down to 1 satochi and take even more profit because there are already billions of cost free coins in their pockets.

Explain "no profit" to me.  Are you listening to yourself?

Welcome to my ignore list, dumbass.
hero member
Activity: 545
Merit: 500
You are being trolled by a NoKoin staff member with yet another brand new newbie account (NoGroup).  

Thanks for the work you did on the blockchain explorer which helped shed light on this shit.

I heard they tipped you a whole $5 worth of Neucoins, currently worth $4 and melting.  I don't think management appreciated you showing up his crack team of famous people and fresh out of school geniuses.
i dont work for or against them
they claim innovation when all they do is stripping code from other coin and mix it up im just doing the same job as builtwith.com here
do you think having a higher post count makes you more knowledgeable ?

Knowledgable?  No.

Credible? Absolutely. 

Stop giving Redfish a hard time asshole.  He provided invaluable intelligence in the form of his blockchain explorer that NoKoin couldn't seem to produce.

newbie
Activity: 24
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You are being trolled by a NoKoin staff member with yet another brand new newbie account (NoGroup).  

Thanks for the work you did on the blockchain explorer which helped shed light on this shit.

I heard they tipped you a whole $5 worth of Neucoins, currently worth $4 and melting.  I don't think management appreciated you showing up his crack team of famous people and fresh out of school geniuses.
i dont work for or against them
they claim innovation when all they do is stripping code from other coin and mix it up im just doing the same job as builtwith.com here
do you think having a higher post count makes you more knowledgeable ?
hero member
Activity: 545
Merit: 500
i dont want people thinking you are technial literate when you are not
you said that they dont want your code maybe its because its bad afaik regarding peercoin code, yours dont respect the coding style and you introduce weird calculation for math that you dont seem to comprehend... ask people here apparently they do the math lol you should look what peerunity did about that
What "math" do I not comprehend? What "weird calculation"? Again, did you even bother to look at anything I did? Can you even understand it?

You are being trolled by a NoKoin staff member with yet another brand new newbie account (NoGroup).  

Thanks for the work you did on the blockchain explorer which helped shed light on this shit.

I heard they tipped you a whole $5 worth of Neucoins, currently worth $4 and melting.  I don't think management appreciated you showing up his crack team of famous people and fresh out of school geniuses.

newbie
Activity: 32
Merit: 0
i dont want people thinking you are technial literate when you are not
you said that they dont want your code maybe its because its bad afaik regarding peercoin code, yours dont respect the coding style and you introduce weird calculation for math that you dont seem to comprehend... ask people here apparently they do the math lol you should look what peerunity did about that
What "math" do I not comprehend? What "weird calculation"? Again, did you even bother to look at anything I did? Can you even understand it?
i dont do review for free.
im talking about that https://github.com/redfish64/neucoin/blob/master/src/bitcoinrpc.cpp#L3264 and that https://github.com/redfish64/neucoin/blob/master/src/wallet.cpp#L2083-L2105
Oh alright, lol. Don't ask for specifics, right? I guess we'll all have to trust you as a position of authority about how I "introduce weird calculation" and the there is "math" I "dont seem to comprehend".

hero member
Activity: 545
Merit: 500
Someone, or something is trying very hard to murder neucoin on cryptsy. They have been since launch. The price has been driven down repeatedly by sell walls. Someone holds 2.35mil on bittrex in a single wallet. Someone is trying to hoard neu. We will see the walls lifted within the month and we will see an above normal spike in price back up to 6k+. People are starting to stake and the network hash rate has quadrupled within the past week. Very interesting to see what is going on with neu.

I'm not too familiar with trading but I thought the sell walls were because people wanted to get rid of their coin? I also thought that the one bittrex wallet was someone in neucoin where they would buy to support the price and not let it go down further? Can someone please explain to me what's going on in the exchanges? It's pretty fascinating and I'd like to learn more Smiley

lol.  you're right Mindi.  sell walls isn't hoarding, it's the opposite.  anyway, I think Tempus' theory that little coins were actually sold is probably true...and as we can see on cryptsy, the volume is pretty low.  I think some of the actual presale buyers dumped their coins and that's why the price went from .00006 to .000037.
Some people are trying to buy lower, but right now little is being sold or bought.  Holding long term is risky because the foundation can dump huge amounts anytime they want.  This makes buying the coin for speculation unattractive.

Yeah, they probably worked all that time dump for zero profit.. are you listening to yourself ?

The have a million dollars of your money dumbass.  They can dump it down to 1 satochi and take even more profit because there are already billions of cost free coins in their pockets.

Explain "no profit" to me.  Are you listening to yourself?
newbie
Activity: 24
Merit: 0
i dont want people thinking you are technial literate when you are not
you said that they dont want your code maybe its because its bad afaik regarding peercoin code, yours dont respect the coding style and you introduce weird calculation for math that you dont seem to comprehend... ask people here apparently they do the math lol you should look what peerunity did about that
What "math" do I not comprehend? What "weird calculation"? Again, did you even bother to look at anything I did? Can you even understand it?
i dont do review for free.
im talking about that https://github.com/redfish64/neucoin/blob/master/src/bitcoinrpc.cpp#L3264 and that https://github.com/redfish64/neucoin/blob/master/src/wallet.cpp#L2083-L2105
newbie
Activity: 32
Merit: 0
i dont want people thinking you are technial literate when you are not
you said that they dont want your code maybe its because its bad afaik regarding peercoin code, yours dont respect the coding style and you introduce weird calculation for math that you dont seem to comprehend... ask people here apparently they do the math lol you should look what peerunity did about that
What "math" do I not comprehend? What "weird calculation"? Again, did you even bother to look at anything I did? Can you even understand it?
newbie
Activity: 24
Merit: 0
Geez, man... harsh. What does it matter how many changes I made to the README? I was tasked with learning how the code worked, what it did, and accomplish my task all at the same time. And yes, I was also learning how to use git and how to interface with github, too (I also didn't know how github displays README's in general. They're preview functionality kind of sucks). I just did it as a hack so I could mint effectively, and thought it would be nice to share.

And that commit message was before I was even considering releasing it to the public.

I noticed you didn't bring up anything about the changes I did implement. Did you even look at them? Read the README, where I go through the specific details on how to mint effectively? Most of the work actually was reading the code and figuring out exactly how Neucoin/Peercoin worked, which I was by no means an expert on before I started this. Doing all of that in the time I did so I could get ready to mint from day 1 was actually a pretty good accomplishment.

What's your goal here? Why'd you want to see my code if all you're going to do is tear apart the superficial stuff without taking a look at what I did do?
i dont want people thinking you are technial literate when you are not
you said that they dont want your code maybe its because its bad afaik regarding peercoin code, yours dont respect the coding style and you introduce weird calculation for math that you dont seem to comprehend... ask people here apparently they do the math lol you should look what peerunity did about that
newbie
Activity: 32
Merit: 0
I even gave them a fork that would solve one of the biggest issues for anyone using the client, that no one can see whether they are minting or not, how long it will take to mint, and the reward they'd lose if they transfer their coins. But the Neucoin team hasn't done anything with it. I can only guess that they just don't have the expertise and the knowledge of how Peercoin works to be able to even figure out if my code works.

i was interested in readnig fork but apparently you deleted it, could you re-upload it ?
i don't think they will integrate it anyway, it would be like bitcoin showing how much time you have until a new block will be generated (or maybe neuteam are too noob to see it)
btw, don't you think that funny that liqio where not able to use your csv flie but still give his technical pov ??
Ok, it's back up. I took it down because I didn't want to people to see it as a show of support. I updated the README with my position.
im sorry to bring this to you but maybe it's a good thing you are nolonger in the bay area, the idea 1/3 of your commit s about editing the readme, 1/4 about merging (rebase anyone?) and the rest is copy/paste or commit message with weird statement like « I think I changed the future log message, not sure... »
http://i.imgur.com/JtAywAo.jpg

looking ate the getneucoin (fucking 1998 webiste with sound enableb by defautl) & myneucoin (hdwallet anyone?) code is weird because they are two diffrent thing one is made with python the other php (apparently getneucoin is the faucet site (lol)) maybe is that the reason why they cant integrate it... no communication on it...

anyone tried to reach coin news site to know who paid them and did they paid them with neucoin bitcoin or $$$ ? this thread is fucking huge and im starting to sort thing out would be nice to know if its dank or a fundation that are paying for it

ill try to bring more asap
Geez, man... harsh. What does it matter how many changes I made to the README? I was tasked with learning how the code worked, what it did, and accomplish my task all at the same time. And yes, I was also learning how to use git and how to interface with github, too (I also didn't know how github displays README's in general. They're preview functionality kind of sucks). I just did it as a hack so I could mint effectively, and thought it would be nice to share.

And that commit message was before I was even considering releasing it to the public.

I noticed you didn't bring up anything about the changes I did implement. Did you even look at them? Read the README, where I go through the specific details on how to mint effectively? Most of the work actually was reading the code and figuring out exactly how Neucoin/Peercoin worked, which I was by no means an expert on before I started this. Doing all of that in the time I did so I could get ready to mint from day 1 was actually a pretty good accomplishment.

What's your goal here? Why'd you want to see my code if all you're going to do is tear apart the superficial stuff without taking a look at what I did do?
newbie
Activity: 24
Merit: 0
Someone, or something is trying very hard to murder neucoin on cryptsy. They have been since launch. The price has been driven down repeatedly by sell walls. Someone holds 2.35mil on bittrex in a single wallet. Someone is trying to hoard neu. We will see the walls lifted within the month and we will see an above normal spike in price back up to 6k+. People are starting to stake and the network hash rate has quadrupled within the past week. Very interesting to see what is going on with neu.

I'm not too familiar with trading but I thought the sell walls were because people wanted to get rid of their coin? I also thought that the one bittrex wallet was someone in neucoin where they would buy to support the price and not let it go down further? Can someone please explain to me what's going on in the exchanges? It's pretty fascinating and I'd like to learn more Smiley

lol.  you're right Mindi.  sell walls isn't hoarding, it's the opposite.  anyway, I think Tempus' theory that little coins were actually sold is probably true...and as we can see on cryptsy, the volume is pretty low.  I think some of the actual presale buyers dumped their coins and that's why the price went from .00006 to .000037.
Some people are trying to buy lower, but right now little is being sold or bought.  Holding long term is risky because the foundation can dump huge amounts anytime they want.  This makes buying the coin for speculation unattractive.

Yeah, they probably worked all that time dump for zero profit.. are you listening to yourself ?

while they hold the coin they are not decentralized as they claim simple fact
legendary
Activity: 2898
Merit: 1017
Someone, or something is trying very hard to murder neucoin on cryptsy. They have been since launch. The price has been driven down repeatedly by sell walls. Someone holds 2.35mil on bittrex in a single wallet. Someone is trying to hoard neu. We will see the walls lifted within the month and we will see an above normal spike in price back up to 6k+. People are starting to stake and the network hash rate has quadrupled within the past week. Very interesting to see what is going on with neu.

I'm not too familiar with trading but I thought the sell walls were because people wanted to get rid of their coin? I also thought that the one bittrex wallet was someone in neucoin where they would buy to support the price and not let it go down further? Can someone please explain to me what's going on in the exchanges? It's pretty fascinating and I'd like to learn more Smiley

lol.  you're right Mindi.  sell walls isn't hoarding, it's the opposite.  anyway, I think Tempus' theory that little coins were actually sold is probably true...and as we can see on cryptsy, the volume is pretty low.  I think some of the actual presale buyers dumped their coins and that's why the price went from .00006 to .000037.
Some people are trying to buy lower, but right now little is being sold or bought.  Holding long term is risky because the foundation can dump huge amounts anytime they want.  This makes buying the coin for speculation unattractive.

Yeah, they probably worked all that time dump for zero profit.. are you listening to yourself ?
newbie
Activity: 24
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I even gave them a fork that would solve one of the biggest issues for anyone using the client, that no one can see whether they are minting or not, how long it will take to mint, and the reward they'd lose if they transfer their coins. But the Neucoin team hasn't done anything with it. I can only guess that they just don't have the expertise and the knowledge of how Peercoin works to be able to even figure out if my code works.

i was interested in readnig fork but apparently you deleted it, could you re-upload it ?
i don't think they will integrate it anyway, it would be like bitcoin showing how much time you have until a new block will be generated (or maybe neuteam are too noob to see it)
btw, don't you think that funny that liqio where not able to use your csv flie but still give his technical pov ??
Ok, it's back up. I took it down because I didn't want to people to see it as a show of support. I updated the README with my position.
im sorry to bring this to you but maybe it's a good thing you are nolonger in the bay area, the idea 1/3 of your commit s about editing the readme, 1/4 about merging (rebase anyone?) and the rest is copy/paste or commit message with weird statement like « I think I changed the future log message, not sure... »
http://i.imgur.com/JtAywAo.jpg

looking ate the getneucoin (fucking 1998 webiste with sound enableb by defautl) & myneucoin (hdwallet anyone?) code is weird because they are two diffrent thing one is made with python the other php (apparently getneucoin is the faucet site (lol)) maybe is that the reason why they cant integrate it... no communication on it...

anyone tried to reach coin news site to know who paid them and did they paid them with neucoin bitcoin or $$$ ? this thread is fucking huge and im starting to sort thing out would be nice to know if its dank or a fundation that are paying for it

ill try to bring more asap
newbie
Activity: 32
Merit: 0
I even gave them a fork that would solve one of the biggest issues for anyone using the client, that no one can see whether they are minting or not, how long it will take to mint, and the reward they'd lose if they transfer their coins. But the Neucoin team hasn't done anything with it. I can only guess that they just don't have the expertise and the knowledge of how Peercoin works to be able to even figure out if my code works.

i was interested in readnig fork but apparently you deleted it, could you re-upload it ?
i don't think they will integrate it anyway, it would be like bitcoin showing how much time you have until a new block will be generated (or maybe neuteam are too noob to see it)
btw, don't you think that funny that liqio where not able to use your csv flie but still give his technical pov ??

Ok, it's back up. I took it down because I didn't want to people to see it as a show of support. I updated the README with my position.


newbie
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I even gave them a fork that would solve one of the biggest issues for anyone using the client, that no one can see whether they are minting or not, how long it will take to mint, and the reward they'd lose if they transfer their coins. But the Neucoin team hasn't done anything with it. I can only guess that they just don't have the expertise and the knowledge of how Peercoin works to be able to even figure out if my code works.

i was interested in readnig fork but apparently you deleted it, could you re-upload it ?
i don't think they will integrate it anyway, it would be like bitcoin showing how much time you have until a new block will be generated (or maybe neuteam are too noob to see it)
btw, don't you think that funny that liqio where not able to use your csv flie but still give his technical pov ??
legendary
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Someone, or something is trying very hard to murder neucoin on cryptsy. They have been since launch. The price has been driven down repeatedly by sell walls. Someone holds 2.35mil on bittrex in a single wallet. Someone is trying to hoard neu. We will see the walls lifted within the month and we will see an above normal spike in price back up to 6k+. People are starting to stake and the network hash rate has quadrupled within the past week. Very interesting to see what is going on with neu.

I'm not too familiar with trading but I thought the sell walls were because people wanted to get rid of their coin? I also thought that the one bittrex wallet was someone in neucoin where they would buy to support the price and not let it go down further? Can someone please explain to me what's going on in the exchanges? It's pretty fascinating and I'd like to learn more Smiley


There are some possible scenarios... depends mostly on what the Neu-Team wants. As I said: I believe that the majority of the ICO was bought from the team. There were 100 Mio NEU and about 4000 BTC. If we would say, just for an theoretical calculation, that there were 200 real Investors with 2 BTC each (average) it would mean: 10% in public hands = 400 BTC = 10 Mio Neu which would be really "out in the wild".

I'm pretty sure, that the buy-walls are from the team. Reason: At this point there are maybe some little Investors, playing a little bit with tiny amounts but if somebody would like to buy at 0.000035 and would invest about 11 BTC he will think about it. It's unpredictable for everybody without insider-knowledge. Some may expect pumping, some may expect that the team could give up, some may expect dumping... I don't believe that anybody would invest much at this point.

So... in my eyes, the buy-walls could have to possible reasons:

1. to stabilize the price
2. to buy it mostly all back


If they stabilize the price and buying time with that, they could have a strategy to come out with something they could publish as good news... whatever it could be. Something that would give the sign that they are still following their own strategy, User-growth and so on. That could be the strategy, but it's also a risk I would say, because they can't fix the inflation- and distribution-problem.

Another strategy could be: To buy it all back what is in public hands. Than they could leave in silence... over time, nobody would care too much because nobody would have lost too much. And to do that, they could motivate the people to dump their holdings. And... They don't do that much to raise confidence the last days. There is no communication and maybe they are also building some sell-walls to cause dumping into their own buy-walls which are lower and lower than the ICO-price...

And... it's really speculative but that would be my guess, because it looks similar on Bittrex and Cryptsy. In this moment: On both exchanges exactly 7.4 BTC (200,000 NEU) on the sellside at 0.000038. I doubt that this is a coincidence.

Buy-side the same picture at 0.000035... > 300,000 NEU.

So, I believe they want to cause people to dump into the buy-walls and they know how much is in public hands. But it also could be that there are just real Investors on the sellside who wants out or one bigger Investor on both exchanges or whatever... hoping that they'll buy it.


Maybe we'll see what's their strategy in a few days. If they'll try to push the project or if they'll stay calm or coming up with an excuse or whatever. It's unpredictable. Maybe they have the plan for something like a restart... who knows.




legendary
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[...]
I even gave them a fork that would solve one of the biggest issues for anyone using the client, that no one can see whether they are minting or not, how long it will take to mint, and the reward they'd lose if they transfer their coins. But the Neucoin team hasn't done anything with it. I can only guess that they just don't have the expertise and the knowledge of how Peercoin works to be able to even figure out if my code works.
[...]

Without a doubt technical knowledge is missing, otherwise they could have released the peercoin clone and a web wallet after 1-2 months (instead of 1.5 years).

But there's more.
Why didn't they reward, not even verbally, your fork? You're clearly the only person that added value to the qt-client.
Why was huey not rewarded or thanked for creating the only block explorer?
I said it before, compared to the achievements of the whole neucon regime you should have been given many millions of coins and offered jobs immediately...

My answer: Given the history of the team (lying, misleading, postponing, etc.) I believe that you and huey are not rewarded because you created tools that help everybody see what's really happening. That all our (rizz, jonald, scam, gekko, tempus, ...) theories are actually true.

And truth is exactly what the team doesn't want - all they want and ever wanted is to deceive and make a lot of money.
legendary
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Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political
Someone, or something is trying very hard to murder neucoin on cryptsy. They have been since launch. The price has been driven down repeatedly by sell walls. Someone holds 2.35mil on bittrex in a single wallet. Someone is trying to hoard neu. We will see the walls lifted within the month and we will see an above normal spike in price back up to 6k+. People are starting to stake and the network hash rate has quadrupled within the past week. Very interesting to see what is going on with neu.

I'm not too familiar with trading but I thought the sell walls were because people wanted to get rid of their coin? I also thought that the one bittrex wallet was someone in neucoin where they would buy to support the price and not let it go down further? Can someone please explain to me what's going on in the exchanges? It's pretty fascinating and I'd like to learn more Smiley

lol.  you're right Mindi.  sell walls isn't hoarding, it's the opposite.  anyway, I think Tempus' theory that little coins were actually sold is probably true...and as we can see on cryptsy, the volume is pretty low.  I think some of the actual presale buyers dumped their coins and that's why the price went from .00006 to .000037.
Some people are trying to buy lower, but right now little is being sold or bought.  Holding long term is risky because the foundation can dump huge amounts anytime they want.  This makes buying the coin for speculation unattractive.
sr. member
Activity: 462
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Someone, or something is trying very hard to murder neucoin on cryptsy. They have been since launch. The price has been driven down repeatedly by sell walls. Someone holds 2.35mil on bittrex in a single wallet. Someone is trying to hoard neu. We will see the walls lifted within the month and we will see an above normal spike in price back up to 6k+. People are starting to stake and the network hash rate has quadrupled within the past week. Very interesting to see what is going on with neu.

I'm not too familiar with trading but I thought the sell walls were because people wanted to get rid of their coin? I also thought that the one bittrex wallet was someone in neucoin where they would buy to support the price and not let it go down further? Can someone please explain to me what's going on in the exchanges? It's pretty fascinating and I'd like to learn more Smiley
hero member
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Crypto is King.
Someone, or something is trying very hard to murder neucoin on cryptsy. They have been since launch. The price has been driven down repeatedly by sell walls. Someone holds 2.35mil on bittrex in a single wallet. Someone is trying to hoard neu. We will see the walls lifted within the month and we will see an above normal spike in price back up to 6k+. People are starting to stake and the network hash rate has quadrupled within the past week. Very interesting to see what is going on with neu.
The 7 BTC sell wall was taken down literally 5 seconds after I made this post. Maybe the boom will be sooner than expected. Lurkers be lurkin'.
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