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Topic: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official - page 98. (Read 196191 times)

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Nice post RealMalatesta.
Not very transparent this neucoin is it?
Takes a lot of digging to get any info imo.
Serious points you raise, no wonder neucoin will not give promised info on foundations.
(still reading btw)

As KimberlyS says "The team and mods are about just as disillusioned or shamelessly posting lie after lie."
so when KimberlyS asks "Hey nokoiners, how's the beta testing going?" (today)
don't you just know Sandrine will come out with some BS, (today)

"Hi everyone, a quick heads-up to emphasize the fact that the beta has already started: our angel investors have already been testing it throughout the month of August." (today)

Oh, so the beta test HAS started.(it hasn't) Sandrine has EMPHASIZED THE FACT (fact haha), so no need to worry Torrgeek. http://forum.neucoin.org/t/launch-prediction-and-concerns/1408
(nice thread Didi, btw, could you mention the primeval ban for me, please please)


But I thought this internal testing was last month and now it was ready for "final" testing by a wider audience?

"I'd like to let you know though that we have been testing MyNeuCoin and NeuCoin for months now. It's just very different to test them in closed environment and to open it to a wider audience." (Sandrine, start of Aug when neucoiners last needed appeasing.)
http://forum.neucoin.org/t/pre-launch-updates/1268/67


Thats what I thought, you wanted a wider audience?
Sandrine you also said before that, that the presale purchasers would be involved in August, that they would be the wider audience?

"Over the month of August, the test environment will be gradually opened up to presale buyers and select invitees as we approach the public launch"
http://forum.neucoin.org/t/pre-launch-updates/1268/37


Yeah, to presale buyers, thats is what I thought.

If you had "launched" this test net as promised (broken record) in August, it would have been much clearer that a "real" launch was possible?
(not just some last minute cobble together)

"Once this test environment will be gradually opened to presale buyers and a few other members, our advancements will become much more visible and transparent - and I guess we're all looking forward to this, "
http://forum.neucoin.org/t/pre-launch-updates/1268/40

Yeah, you agree?
..but hang on, i'm not looking forward to it, nor I think, primevalsoup, and, not all but many others (August maybe, not now)



Hey other news....Baby mod is back from school hollidays, (after 6 weeks, expecting neucoin to have launched, bless him)

No problem, he was straight back into his mod role yesterday, explaining
"Hi @Sid - you will get your coins, don't worry - the survey coins will be able to get collected roughly a month after the launch on myneucoin.com"
http://forum.neucoin.org/t/i-get-this-email-back-in-may-confirmation-of-neucoins-earned-from-surveys/1406

Sid has 18000 neucoin for immediate disposal, (if anyone is interested?.....no?)
What baby forgot to say, the survey coin is released in 4 monthly instalments to Sid.
Someone needs to tell Sid, or he will be in breach of contract.
http://forum.neucoin.org/t/white-paper-bounty-program/314


Oh well, neucoin, run by school boys and James....  mod.


M3ndi3, are you nearly done with neucoin?
After all is a refund (for all, pre launch) looking more sensible?
http://forum.neucoin.org/t/launch-prediction-and-concerns/1408/5
neucoin have taken your sparkle?

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When do we receive our free NeuCoins for helping with the quiz?
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So there are interesting times ahead....

Got my popcorn ready... Lets go!
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When reading through the NoCoin-thread and looking at their site, they like to mention "the foundation" and all this crap. But how comes the domain, for example, isn't owned by a foundation, but by Dan Kaufman?

Registrant Name:Daniel Kaufman
Registrant Organization:
Registrant Street: PO Box 921
Registrant City:Richlandtown
Registrant State/Province:Pennsylvania
Registrant Postal Code:18955
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.6462481385
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email:[email protected]



Okay, now let's look at the Linkedin-profile of two of the NoCoins representants:

Sandrine Ayral - Head of Community @ NeuCoin
  • Junior consultant, ESSEC Conseil International
  • Business Developer, EasyLife Pack
  • Vice president, ESSEC Conseil International
  • Analyst Intern, Alven Capital Partners
  • Business Skiller @ Le Camping, Silicon Sentier
  • Ambassador, TheFamily
  • Customer Support, Coinbase

Not bad for a CV, right? Is something missing? Well, maybe this:
Business development for a Parisian startup.

This can be found on the NoCoin-Homepage. Not very specific, correct?

Well, and the CV of Dan Kaufman is well known. He seems to have been involved in so many companies that it is hard to keep track.

But one thing is missing...

May 6, 2014, Dan Kaufman was obviously in Paris. While being there, he established the company "Althouse Development", located at 3 Rue de Teheran in 75008 Paris.

May 14, this company was duly registered, with Daniel Louis Kaufman, born November 10, 1968, living at 1793 Country Lane, Quakertown, PA, USA. Well, not "Richlandtown" like the address he used for registering the company, but Quakertown.

However, he immedeately became president of the board of this company which paid 12500 Euro as stock capital on an account at "Société Général" in Paris.

October 24, Dan Kaufman resigned as a president and was replaced by Sandrine Ayral, born 1989.

She, too, didn't stay long and was replaced August 14 of this year by Jonathan Gnassia from the company Eljomino Venture.

Why are those facts relevant?

Althouse Developement rented some work space at Coworkshop in Paris. Coworkshop asked Kaufman and Ayral what they are doing. Here's the response:

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We are working on developing a new cryptocurrency. If you have ever heard of bitcoin, it is similar to that. Our founder Daniel has been thinking about creating a new cryptocurrency since January and the team was assembled in June.

What are the roles within the team?

We are a team of six people. Three of us are on the business side of it, developing strategies and the other three are the technology experts and they are building a web platform.

Why did you choose Coworkshop?

When we saw the space we knew it would be a good place for the team to work. It has a lot of flexibility, which we liked. It also is in a great location. It is very convenient for everyone on the team.


Okay, so Althouse is creating a new coin. Beside this, not a lot is known about the "team" which is creating this coin.

Who is known regarding NoCoin? Right, there's one Maël Nison, Software Engineer at Neucoin, who writes, for example:

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Neucoin is a new cryptocurrency, based on Bitcoin. It intends to spread the adoption of crypto-coins to the masses by dedicating vast resources toward a strong marketing plan. I currently work with them as a software developer, tweaking and improving their official client.

On the NoKoin-homepage, they introduce Maël Nison as their "Core Coin Developer":

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Maël has worked with several innovative startups and most notably Sketchfab, a TechStars-backed web company. He graduated from EPITECH, a top European Computer Science school, where he also taught C and C++. In his spare time, he works on various open source projects such as Virtjs, a javascript emulation library.
At github, Maël Nison goes as "arcanis", working not for "NeuCoin", but for Althouse Development. Which makes sense, for "NeuCoin" is only a brand name, while the employer is in fact Althouse Development.

As a "Core Coin Developer", Nison contributes to projects from "althousedev", mainly to a fork of bitcore from Bitpay, "A pure and powerful JavaScript Bitcoin library". Some of his contributions are worth mentioning:

July 24: althousedev/bitcore: Adds neucoin testnet parameters
July 28: althousedev/bitcore: Changes precision - warning, ppcoin / neucoin only
    Adds Transaction#setTransaction
Today:  althousedev/bitcore: Changes the dust threshold to 10000

So today, they still are working on their project, while claiming "Launch expected to happen between Aug 6 and 13".

Another althousedev-project, btw:  NeucoinWhitepaper, updated on June 18.

Basically, what they never mentioned before:
a) The company Althouse in France is behind the Neucoin-project
b) Until two weeks ago, first Dan Kaufman and then Sandrine Ayral were presidents of Althouse
c) This company has a rather small stock capital, i.e. if the project goes down the drain, there's nothing to be taken from them.
d) Neucoin seems to be based on the bitcore-project

Also interesting: Up until now, Althouse hasn't filed a financial statement with the French authorities. If they had done this, it should be publicly available.

It would be interesting to see the statement, for there is one major question: Who owns the Bitcoins which were sold in the presale? If, at the end of the day, it is Althouse, then they will have to pay taxes for them. If a person or a company in France owns Bitcoin with a value higher than €5,000, they will have to pay taxes, according to a government's plan.

So there are interesting times ahead....
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Hey nokoiners, how's the beta testing going? Ohh wait, don't tell me another deadline has been missed?! Now ya'll gone silent and the hubris has faded?? Good grief, this is not gonna end well at all!
One of the biggest presale buyers has been banned for speaking against this farce. Now even minor complaints [like zorroaster7's] gets deleted too. Not surprised, nokoin is all about blind faith in tales of unicorns bringing magical coins from Narnia, except the unicorns seem to get lost all the time.

Things are looking increasingly grim for nokoin so any sort of reality check is met with ridiculous levels of censorship.

I stopped replying in the Neucoin forums because those people are either sock puppets, or as dumb as mud. James is about the dumbest person I've ever encountered on any forum since the beginning of the Internet.
Gotta agree James is either brain damaged or a very poorly executed shill persona. How he can smell perfume in every nokoin fart is just unbelievable. The team and mods are about just as disillusioned or shamelessly posting lie after lie. Only m3ndi3 seems to be somewhat in touch with reality.
I hope that primavelsoup and other investors will join forces and get their investment back soon. Good luck!!
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Who's next?
Newbie?
Dang 63?
yourself?
....?

Don't know and don't care. It's their forum to do with as they wish.

Were it my forum, and I were really trying to shake up the crypto world as they're proposing, I'd encourage both positive and negative discussion and respond professionally to it.

I'd also pay extra careful attention to my integrity. If I said I was going to do something then I would do it. I'd answer questions that people have posed, promptly. I'd update people when I said I would update them.

But that's just me; integrity matters in my business...

If you worked for neucoin, would you inform neucoin forum primevalsoup is banned? (one of neucoins biggest investors)

Will you/someone post that info on neucoin forum for the benefit of all investors?
Everyone here knows, don't think neucoin forum users do. 
Is that fair/right/transparent?

I would like to know if I was invested. I would not want to have to find out here.
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totally agree with both you and primevilsoup. (except I see why he was banned!)
Exactly what I have been Highlighting, imo.

Oh, I understand why they banned him. I just don't agree why it's banworthy. If they're legit then there's nothing to worry about from someone posting their sentiments and an email address.

I think they are worried it will in fact be, half assed.

They're obviously not legit. And it will be half-assed indeed, at best. I have the feeling that they're "beta testing" (only w/ words), mainly EULA wording and such so when shit finally hits the fan impact on angels' reputation will be minimal (i.e. they're carefully looking at all the legal aspects of this; the launch - of a shitty clone that doesn't even need any beta testing - can wait).
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Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political

totally agree with both you and primevilsoup. (except I see why he was banned!)
Exactly what I have been Highlighting, imo.

Oh, I understand why they banned him. I just don't agree why it's banworthy. If they're legit then there's nothing to worry about from someone posting their sentiments and an email address.

I think they are worried it will in fact be, half assed.
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...It doesn't matter who is next, this is not decentralization.
or,
this is how neucoin decentralization work's.

primevalsoup,
Reading your posts on neucoin forum, from the start, all you ever wanted were a few simple answers  Huh
I feel exactly the same.  Cry

My posts here have treated neucoin as I feel they treat others......  like idiots. (meaning the insiders, not the mods or investors, thats a separate issue)
I never expected to still be here.
A few answers would have seen me off.
A bit of progress would have seen me off.


So much marketing speak deflection?

edit, Idifin, I did not see your post above ^ when I replied, but basically, yes.
Isn't that what any professional would do?




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Who's next?
Newbie?
Dang 63?
yourself?
....?

Don't know and don't care. It's their forum to do with as they wish.

Were it my forum, and I were really trying to shake up the crypto world as they're proposing, I'd encourage both positive and negative discussion and respond professionally to it.

I'd also pay extra careful attention to my integrity. If I said I was going to do something then I would do it. I'd answer questions that people have posed, promptly. I'd update people when I said I would update them.

But that's just me; integrity matters in my business...
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totally agree with both you and primevilsoup. (except I see why he was banned!)
Exactly what I have been Highlighting, imo.

Oh, I understand why they banned him. I just don't agree why it's banworthy. If they're legit then there's nothing to worry about from someone posting their sentiments and an email address.

ok, I understand, but this IS nokoin.

WTF do they do now they have banned one of the whales?

Who's next?
Newbie?
Dang 63?
yourself?
....?
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totally agree with both you and primevilsoup. (except I see why he was banned!)
Exactly what I have been Highlighting, imo.

Oh, I understand why they banned him. I just don't agree why it's banworthy. If they're legit then there's nothing to worry about from someone posting their sentiments and an email address.
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For those who missed it, here's what primeval posted:



I don't really see what's banworthy about that? He's just indicating what he'll do given that the coin isn't released by 9/30 without a refund or if a half-assed product is released. I'll be doing the same given exactly the same conditions that primeval mentioned. That shouldn't bother anyone at Neucoin if they are acting in good faith.

I tend to agree with the gross negligence part. Perhaps complete and total incompetence would better describe the Neucoin team.

I stopped replying in the Neucoin forums because those people are either sock puppets, or as dumb as mud. James is about the dumbest person I've ever encountered on any forum since the beginning of the Internet.

totally agree with both you and primevalsoup. (except I see why he was banned!)
Exactly what I have been Highlighting, imo.

I hope you contact him on the quoted scamline.

Good luck.
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For those who missed it, here's what primeval posted:

http://s30.postimg.org/7bi07xijx/pmsnc.jpg

I don't really see what's banworthy about that? He's just indicating what he'll do given that the coin isn't released by 9/30 without a refund or if a half-assed product is released. I'll be doing the same given exactly the same conditions that primeval mentioned. That shouldn't bother anyone at Neucoin if they are acting in good faith.

I tend to agree with the gross negligence part. Perhaps complete and total incompetence would better describe the Neucoin team.

I stopped replying in the Neucoin forums because those people are either sock puppets, or as dumb as mud. James is about the dumbest person I've ever encountered on any forum since the beginning of the Internet.
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ITS ALL GONE TO SHITE,


primevalsoup
Bruce

This user is suspended until August 27, 2016 5:29pm.
Reason: Used to ask real and interesting questions but now is only down to spreading fear when we're close to release
Last post Aug 9 Joined Apr 16
(problem was he never got any answers)

$10,000 investor  Huh

Game over Dart?  M3ndi3?

http://forum.neucoin.org/users/primevalsoup/activity

Edit,

primevalsoup banned 2h, Dank last seen 2h? The cull continues.
(not 100% sure if he was banned today or yesterday)
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My favorite quote: Distribution is a non-trivial problem in PoS. Any new PoS forks have to compete against Peercoin's three year of distribution of the coin with PoW and trading. A tall order - and Neucoin's strategy of a huge pre-mine and then giving coins away free does not strike me as an elegant solution to that problem.


...but it cleverly solves the problems of founders being unable to cash out their restricted coins and keeps everything looking above board?

How many nokoin do you suppose Dank and the team will allocate to themselves, anonymously, in the guise of nokoin adoption rewards?
Many, many millions of nokoin for unrestricted sale/profit, IMO.  Cool

Of course the nokoin team will make sure we never know such unnecessary details.  Huh

nokoiners are clearly not interested in such multi million dollar undeclared profits.
(after all, the founders deserve all they can get, they have worked so hard, lol)

As long as the investors can also dump at a profit, everyone is happy.  Grin






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Prediction:  They will launch the coin in September.   No major exchange will list it.

Yes I agree.

nokoin will keep promising all the way till 29/30 sept, then launch some shitcoin. IMO
(and the nokoiners will all go along with the deflection as they have so far. complain, accept apology, move on none the wiser)

nokoin has no exchange. possibly part of the plan to sell direct through their wallet. Total price control. IMO
(or it could just be no exchange will trade nokoin)
Remember Mark saying, 6wks ago
"We're already reaching out to many of the exchanges mentioned here, and we hope to have at least a few of them available at, or soon after launch."

This statement to nokoiners means a done deal.
This statement to me means no exchange at launch. (based on previous nokoin failings)

Add it to the marketing speak promised but never happened list.



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