Topic: [ANN] Nybble 0.6.5.2 Nybble - New Wallet Win, Mac and Source, New Pools. - page 6. (Read 31797 times)

I forgot to mention what the earnings estimate would be for a 2MH miner.

I am getting about 220NBL average a day, and my hashrate is about 2.2MH, so estimate 200NBL a day per 2MH.  This is about 0.011 BTC at current exchange rate.

As the pool gets larger, we don't necessary get more because more blocks are being solved, because we are sharing the results with the other miners - but that is my estimated return until the difficulty readjusts.

The assumption is that when the difficulty readjusts it will be at a target difficulty that allows 20MH to solve a block on average in 2.5 minutes.  At that rate  we start to get 2,880NBL a day.  This should last for about 2016 blocks until the next difficulty retarget - I am not sure what happens when huge miners join the party, but we should still be solving more blocks, so hopefully we can maintain this earning rate - I am optimistic of making about 1BTC every week or so, aren't you?  Maybe someone can check my numbers.

[Edit]  Just a couple of more points.  Most 2MH miners can mine other coins and get a return of 0.02BTC a day on average - sometimes more depending on the coin.  We don't have to be on the pool all the time - by all means, mine other coins from time to time, to keep your earnings up - just devote some hashrate to the pool and we can keep this coin going.  Don't forget - if all mining stops, the coin effectively dies because no transfers can take place, no confirmations etc, other than what is within the exchange.

If you read what I was saying a few posts down from yours - that is where I was making the case.  Since then I have been checking the pool block stats and have the following:

At block 39144 we were averaging 5.5 hrs per block, pool hash rate around 2.5MH - at current rate 9 months before difficulty retarget.
A week earlier when I was the only miner on the pool - hash rate around 2MH - average was 8 hrs per block - would have been 1.3 years.

In the past 9 hrs, we are at 39149 - there is or must be a solo miner out there who has solved the last 4 blocks - probably 4-5MH.

If we can get to around 10MH on the pool, we should be looking at solving 18 blocks a day - estimate 65 days to difficulty retarget.
If we can get to around 20MH on the pool, we double that, and reduce the time to about 32-33 days or so - 1 month+ which I believe is achievable.

The gains for us, if we can get enough support is explained previously that the target block time is 2.5 minutes, so our pool instead of solving 4-5 blocks a day now, we could get 576 blocks - the equivalent of 1.5BTC a day.  What does this mean?  A 2MH miner would get a return of about 0.15BTC equivalent in NBL - right now if I mine other coins with my 2MH, I get about 0.018BTC a day, so for me I think it is a good investment.

Now, I don't claim that everything will be sweet - when the difficulty readjusts, we are sure to have other miners join in - however if we are at the beginning, we reap the rewards first.  The danger is that we cannot keep the pool small and end up in the same situation with mining after 2016 blocks driving the difficulty very high again - but with mining, it is always a risk.

Ok - who's in?

My client is connected to 1 or 2 most of the time, use these:

addnode=54.200.132.23
addnode=109.10.236.54

also, you can add my client

addnode=mentat.cable.nu
or
addnode=124.189.53.150

since mine is a dynamic address from the provider, I registered with a ddns host to use the name - try using both.

Another thing, if you have the connect statement in your conf file, remove it.

Update your nodes in the .conf file of your client (if necessary, create a .conf file) and restart client. Look earlier in the thread for the nodes to be added.

Hi',
     I got a nibble wallet (0.6.5.2) & a load of nibble.

Wallet is constantly out of sync...doesn't upload the blockchain.

Is their a fix or an updated version?

Nice nibble reward for the solution.

in accordance

I come back with 1100 KH

What is a reasonable bet for the difficulty to reset to normal values again? I may join the mining party if it makes sense (experienced Nibble from the start).

That is not advisable.  Also it will not work unless we only solo mine, since the wallet would have to be changed on the pool servers as well.  I suppose that there was never an expectation that the mining power would more or less disappear - which is sort of what happened.  With the release of new coins - many of the big speculative miners will jump onto a new coin, get a bundle then go onto the next coin.  They wait for the coin to hit an exchange, then sell out.  This then leaves a lot of coins in situations that the difficulty is high, and with little mining power.  However NBL still is worth something - more than some coins anyway, so it is worthwhile mining for a steady income.  I am aiming with my 2MH/s to get about 0.02BTC equivalent in coins a day.  With NBL I am not reaching my target, but am prepared to keep going.  Once the difficulty drops in 1176 blocks - we should be able get around 0.1BTC a day I expect if the coin value doesn't drop.  When will this happen - if we get a few more miners, maybe get to 20MH/s on the pool, we can do this in about 1 month.  If we can't - then it will take longer.  Don't forget that the target block time is 2.5 minutes, so once the difficulty retargets, we are aiming at about 576 blocks per day or 28,800 NBL a day or something like 2880 NBL for every 2MH/s miner - current value is 0.15BTC.  This is optimistic and might not work for very long before people find out about it and start mining it again - but if we are there at the beginning, we have a head start.

If we are just 4 miners, we could change the source and recompile to change faster difficulty? is just an idea but we could do it by consensus.

(sorry english is not my native language)

Great - thanks.  Let's keep it up - there are 4 miners at the moment, so blocks should be getting quicker.  Currently on 39143.  That block 39139 took 19.5 hrs - I almost gave up on it, but glad I persisted.  Let's all keep this coin alive, although it looks like Cryptsy isn't confirming deposits - one I have is stuck at 8 confirmations for the past 4 blocks.

Hi JL0z

I Am mining in http://nbl.pnwminer.com, +1100 KH

do not let this coin die

Hi - we need more miners on nbl.pnwminer.com - I tried solo mining, but gave up when I realized that solo mining requires 120 confirmations, now I am back on the pool which only needs 20 confirmations.  The current block is 39139 - been working on this for the past 8.4 hrs, we need more miners to speed this up - only 1181 blocks to go before the difficulty retargets to something a lot more reasonable.  I know this is a big ask, but if someone has spare mining power - NBL is still a good earner, but we need more miners so that transfers and deposits don't take forever.

[Edit]  This is just a long block, usually it has been taking around 2hrs per block, but if we get more miners, we can reduce the time.  Transfers and deposits generally need 8 or so confirmations, meaning 8 blocks to be solved - currently taking a day to confirm but more miners means more hashing power means quicker confirmation times.

Happy New Year!

I don't see much mining activity on NBL at present.

The last block solved was 39119 - very slow going.  The block has been broadcast, but I don't have any incoming confirmations as yet that the network has accepted it.  I think this might be due to too few operational nodes - maybe they have shutdown for the holidays.  I was looking at a pool but the nbl.pnwminer.com pool seems to be behind at 39117.

A few things I have done, I configure my Windows Firewall to block nibble-qt.exe from accessing certain outbound tcp ports.  After I did this and continued to block ports I find that my client now does not try to synchronize with other coin's blockchains.  I realize that this is really unnecessary as other blockchains cannot be incorporated but it does reduce the network traffic and reduce the cpu usage as the received blocks are not being orphaned all the time or being rejected.  I am blocking these ports, 2543, 4401, 7785, 7999, 9333-9337, 9527, 9556, 10333, 10442, 11081, 11351, 12128, 13809, 15678, 19667.  I realize that I could just block port ranges, but wanted to keep them individual - I check the debug.log file from time to time whenever I see it trying to sync incorrectly then block the port again etc.

Now I seem to only be connecting to one other node 54.200.132.23.  My client does connect to 70.79.24.157 but that node does not respond with a version message.  My node address is still 124.189.53.150 - so if there are any other working clients out there, can someone let me know.

I have been persisting with the Nibble/Nybble mining - current block being worked on is 39117.  However I am finding that the client is making connections to not just litecoin but also worldcoin and other altcoins.  This comes about because the client code is based on the original Bitcoin client - future developers should really change the subversion to make it distinct and then check for this when making peer connections.  This should avoid peering with incompatible altcoin clients.  An example of what I mean is:

09:17:45 getpeerinfo

09:17:45
[
{
"addr" : "54.200.132.23:8550",
"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1388441860,
"lastrecv" : 1388441839,
"conntime" : 1388395424,
"version" : 60001,
"subver" : "/Satoshi:0.6.5.2/",
"inbound" : false,
"releasetime" : 0,
"startingheight" : 39113,
"banscore" : 0
},
{
"addr" : "31.185.159.126:9336",
"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1388441857,
"lastrecv" : 1388441657,
"conntime" : 1388420589,
"version" : 60002,
"subver" : "/Satoshi:0.6.4.4/",
"inbound" : false,
"releasetime" : 0,
"startingheight" : 140029,
"banscore" : 0
},
{
"addr" : "176.25.115.107:11081",
"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1388441862,
"lastrecv" : 1388441556,
"conntime" : 1388425483,
"version" : 70001,
"subver" : "/WorldcoinFoundation:0.8.5.1/",
"inbound" : false,
"releasetime" : 0,
"startingheight" : 11583,
"banscore" : 0
},
{
"addr" : "95.31.7.14:8550",
"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1388441830,
"lastrecv" : 1388441834,
"conntime" : 1388434279,
"version" : 60001,
"subver" : "/Satoshi:0.6.5.2/",
"inbound" : false,
"releasetime" : 0,
"startingheight" : 39116,
"banscore" : 0
},
{
"addr" : "86.186.14.143:11081",
"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1388441816,
"lastrecv" : 1388441830,
"conntime" : 1388441336,
"version" : 70001,
"subver" : "/WorldcoinFoundation:0.8.5.1/",
"inbound" : false,
"releasetime" : 0,
"startingheight" : 30194,
"banscore" : 0
},
{
"addr" : "79.120.114.167:11081",
"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1388441859,
"lastrecv" : 1388441863,
"conntime" : 1388441343,
"version" : 70001,
"subver" : "/WorldcoinFoundation:0.8.5.1/",
"inbound" : false,
"releasetime" : 0,
"startingheight" : 5843,
"banscore" : 0
},
{
"addr" : "123.52.1.56:9333",
"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1388441864,
"lastrecv" : 1388441860,
"conntime" : 1388441487,
"version" : 70002,
"subver" : "/Satoshi:0.8.5.1/",
"inbound" : false,
"releasetime" : 0,
"startingheight" : 488351,
"banscore" : 0
},
{
"addr" : "84.245.71.31:9333",
"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1388441845,
"lastrecv" : 1388441858,
"conntime" : 1388441673,
"version" : 70002,
"subver" : "/Satoshi:0.8.5.1/",
"inbound" : false,
"releasetime" : 0,
"startingheight" : 488351,
"banscore" : 0
}
]

Here we see WDC client on port 11081, LTC client on port 9333, and FTC client on port 9336.  I realize that we cannot restrict based on port 8550 alone because some clients may be forced to use different ports due to local network restrictions, but maybe the "subver" could be used to indicate "/Nybble:0.6.5.3/" assuming 0.6.5.3 would be a later version to 0.6.5.2 - then we could make peer connections based on looking for Nybble etc.  I don't find this problem happening with other altcoin clients, and I do run quite a few of them from time to time - so can we get this fixed?

Hi all, here is a list of nodes that I found my client was connecting to - for the past couple of days.

addnode=77.251.56.232
addnode=54.200.132.23
addnode=194.79.23.98
addnode=95.31.7.14

if you want to try my client, it is dynamic but at present would be

addnode=124.189.53.150

Block 39108 has finally been solo-mined - took 9.5 hours.  Now my wallet says 2 transactions, no details, but Immature is 50.00 NBL - shouldn't it show 100.00 NBL?

listtransactions in debug console shows:

[
{
"account" : "",
"category" : "immature",
"amount" : 50.00000000,
"confirmations" : 2,
"blockhash" : "b03e6b6e004265075d0d3081e05880b65b5117bb7c79ce40a310fbb09d41f78c",
"blockindex" : 0,
"txid" : "9503ba399997b3d31d4c8d268c4e8f6f10e89e53e226049958ff9d69429274c6",
"time" : 1388288694
},
{
"account" : "",
"category" : "immature",
"amount" : 50.00000000,
"confirmations" : 1,
"blockhash" : "7174020a2afb1c18ff8a6013cf9b4f2309049c62da49836f731185abb8a02064",
"blockindex" : 0,
"txid" : "d03143658f3b16200148fb5aecfcc29466b43bc0047e1064bf0f6b5386b1ef11",
"time" : 1388322989
}
]

Also the client is again trying to synchronize to the litecoin blockchain.  When I check the debug.log file, it appears to be wanting to connect to a peer on port 9333.  The debug.log file shows that mostly these clients on port 9333 are disconnected for misbehavior when they respond with a different version i.e.

Disconnected 85.11.41.149:9333 for misbehavior (score=100)

But, this is not happening to all of them, and eventually one is used as a peer, then we have the problem of trying to sync.  I read that previously this was fixed by using the connect=nblnode.digitalindustry.info but this node is not working, so the problem continues.

I stopped my wallet, then deleted the peers.dat file and restarted my wallet.  Now it comes up and didn't try to sync with the litecoin blockchain so I guess this is fine now.  Also I changed my firewall settings to allow port forwarding of tcp/8550 to come to my wallet machine - maybe it will make it easier for others who may need to locate a node.

After 5 hours still working on block 39108 - but noticed that the wallet now says out of sync.  This is probably based on the time of the last block received or found.  The 4 other peers that my wallet is connected to - show 39107 as the current block number.

I solo mined block 39107 - cgminer shows block accepted, and my wallet shows 1 transaction, but no details - so what is going on?  No amounts unconfirmed either.

I checked the nbl.pnwminer.com pool and it is showing as currently working on 39107 - so did I just waste my 2 hrs of mining for nothing?

Also, somehow the wallet is trying to sync onto the litecoin chain.  Somehow it connected to a litecoin wallet and thinks "~44817 block(s) remaining".

So, do I close my wallet and open it again?  If I do this, will the block that I just solved stay?

[Edit]

I closed my wallet, then reopened, and it got connected to the network - yes, green tick.  It still says 1 transaction but no transaction details.

I went to the debug console, and the listtransaction command gave me the following:

[
{
"account" : "",
"category" : "immature",
"amount" : 50.00000000,
"confirmations" : 1,
"blockhash" : "b03e6b6e004265075d0d3081e05880b65b5117bb7c79ce40a310fbb09d41f78c",
"blockindex" : 0,
"txid" : "9503ba399997b3d31d4c8d268c4e8f6f10e89e53e226049958ff9d69429274c6",
"time" : 1388288694
}
]

So, I guess this is good, and I just have to keep mining away!  A pity that the wallet only shows Confirmed and Unconfirmed amounts, so maybe have to wait for the immature amount to get a few more confirmations before it becomes unconfirmed...

[Edit2]

Sorry spoke too soon, the green tick went away and it is trying to sync again to the litecoin blockchain.  I guess it won't succeed, but maybe I should just delete my peers.dat and start again.

Last block found is 39106 - although the mining pool was still working on this for the past 5 hours, so I am having to do other things with my rigs for the time being - need to try to earn some more coins somehow.  Most of the other miners are gone, so I am having a go at solo mining.

One thing I should mention is that this morning, I was unable to get connections to the network until I realized what I had changed since last night.  I changed my nibble.conf to put back the connect line last night and after that it failed to connect.  Then I removed the connect line, i.e. changed it to

;connect=nblnode.digitalindustry.info

and then restarted my Nibble client, and it got a connection - 1 and now 2, and updated to the current block 39106, but the green tick hasn't come up yet - maybe it takes a while, so try this - everyone who is having trouble connecting and synchronizing.