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StonerStanley

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Quote from: CryptoLTD on December 17, 2014, 09:09:32 PM

Rolling Back due to one theft from one place is one thing, rolling back due to a bunch of n00bs, downloading anything willy nillie is another. Fact is this, in this instance, a roll back would be poor... another fact.. its not going to do anything impressive till those coins are sold.

Edit(added): You can thank the dumbasses that dont verify anything, click random links & dl/install anything , for OPAL going from a nice volatile mkt, to a MAJOR long play @ best.

Edit Prt 2: (Added) More than likely the same types that go to phishy 'news' sites, add every one on social media avenues, and buy IPO's.

Stop talking bullshit.... if you don't know how people get infected... because apparently you don't know, and you don't even know anything about the security but you blame the infected people.... nice nice.

The infected link was in a quote of the dev, the attacker changed the link.... because developers from bitcointalk don't have any skills to protect the hyperlink function, like they are not able to make a avatar function for us.

Problem is Bitcointalk.com and his unsecure hyperlink function, firstly.

Secondly, nothing (oh wait... you are the biggest dumbass that don't verify anything, talking random shit, ect)

raimch89

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why withdraw and transfert still impossible on cryptsy?

etoque

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CryptoLTD Opal had allways been a longterm coin

Everytime you have a good dev team,like now, its a long term

Truther

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Opal Dev

Just gonna set this here..

https://twitter.com/Bitcoin_Truth/status/545468587595825152

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Quote from: jl777 on December 18, 2014, 01:36:06 AM

Quote from: CryptoLTD on December 18, 2014, 01:29:08 AM

Quote from: jl777 on December 18, 2014, 01:20:01 AM

Like it or not we now have a thief as one of the large stakeholders on the rich list.

He has no motivation to dump, anymore than any large stakeholder does. Who knows, he might even make donations to help his investment.

So, please stop with all this worrying. It doesnt help, does it? Or maybe that's the point?

OPAL dodged a bullet. Let us be thankful that there no rollback to deal with forever in the future and we can get back to improving things.

James

I'm not worried, it just 'sucks'. Difference is, his entry point is 0. No one else got in @ 0. He will always be 100% profitable. Believe me, by no means in this instance would I have liked a roll back, I really, truly hope, that people stop trusting every fkng thing they see written on the internet.. dont go to funky links, pay attention..never ever trust something is @ face value.. this is simple web browsing 101.

If there is any silver lining here, it is that due to his zero cost basis, at some point in the future some lucky buyer will get below market OPAL, if he decides to dump cuz his cost basis was 0. If he doesnt, then there is no problem. So the worst that happens is a temporary price drop, we congratulate the lucky buyer whose buy order they never thought would fill, filled. And we move on.

What else to do? OPAL's value is not affected by the fact that one guy has zero cost basis for it.

James

Can't do anything, it's just now a long play.

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Quote from: jl777 on December 18, 2014, 01:24:21 AM

Quote from: CryptoLTD on December 18, 2014, 01:16:31 AM

I guess, here lays the question.. how much are you willing to 'pay' the scammer, for his services. I farking HATE scammers..cant blame the devs.. but GD I can blame stuipd people.. all fkng day.

are the OPAL that the scammer has any different than the OPAL you have?
if someone steals some gold does that taint all the gold in the world? Or is it still gold?

James

P.S. I am not saying to invite the scammer for a picnic, but in my experience fretting over something you have no control over just creates stress.

With much due respect.. Opal cannot ever be compared to gold. If gold had the low mkt cap & liquidity that alts as a whole do, or a sub-fraction of that which would be opal by itself, then yes, it would.

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Quote from: CryptoLTD on December 18, 2014, 01:29:08 AM

Quote from: jl777 on December 18, 2014, 01:20:01 AM

Like it or not we now have a thief as one of the large stakeholders on the rich list.

He has no motivation to dump, anymore than any large stakeholder does. Who knows, he might even make donations to help his investment.

So, please stop with all this worrying. It doesnt help, does it? Or maybe that's the point?

OPAL dodged a bullet. Let us be thankful that there no rollback to deal with forever in the future and we can get back to improving things.

James

I'm not worried, it just 'sucks'. Difference is, his entry point is 0. No one else got in @ 0. He will always be 100% profitable. Believe me, by no means in this instance would I have liked a roll back, I really, truly hope, that people stop trusting every fkng thing they see written on the internet.. dont go to funky links, pay attention..never ever trust something is @ face value.. this is simple web browsing 101.

If there is any silver lining here, it is that due to his zero cost basis, at some point in the future some lucky buyer will get below market OPAL, if he decides to dump cuz his cost basis was 0. If he doesnt, then there is no problem. So the worst that happens is a temporary price drop, we congratulate the lucky buyer whose buy order they never thought would fill, filled. And we move on.

What else to do? OPAL's value is not affected by the fact that one guy has zero cost basis for it.

James

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Quote from: jl777 on December 18, 2014, 01:20:01 AM

Like it or not we now have a thief as one of the large stakeholders on the rich list.

He has no motivation to dump, anymore than any large stakeholder does. Who knows, he might even make donations to help his investment.

So, please stop with all this worrying. It doesnt help, does it? Or maybe that's the point?

OPAL dodged a bullet. Let us be thankful that there no rollback to deal with forever in the future and we can get back to improving things.

James

I'm not worried, it just 'sucks'. Difference is, his entry point is 0. No one else got in @ 0. He will always be 100% profitable. Believe me, by no means in this instance would I have liked a roll back, I really, truly hope, that people stop trusting every fkng thing they see written on the internet.. dont go to funky links, pay attention..never ever trust something is @ face value.. this is simple web browsing 101.

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Quote from: CryptoLTD on December 18, 2014, 01:16:31 AM

I guess, here lays the question.. how much are you willing to 'pay' the scammer, for his services. I farking HATE scammers..cant blame the devs.. but GD I can blame stuipd people.. all fkng day.

are the OPAL that the scammer has any different than the OPAL you have?
if someone steals some gold does that taint all the gold in the world? Or is it still gold?

James

P.S. I am not saying to invite the scammer for a picnic, but in my experience fretting over something you have no control over just creates stress.

jl777

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Like it or not we now have a thief as one of the large stakeholders on the rich list.

He has no motivation to dump, anymore than any large stakeholder does. Who knows, he might even make donations to help his investment.

So, please stop with all this worrying. It doesnt help, does it? Or maybe that's the point?

OPAL dodged a bullet. Let us be thankful that there no rollback to deal with forever in the future and we can get back to improving things.

James

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I guess, here lays the question.. how much are you willing to 'pay' the scammer, for his services. I farking HATE scammers..cant blame the devs.. but GD I can blame stuipd people.. all fkng day.

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Quote from: CryptoLTD on December 17, 2014, 09:07:51 PM

Yep, probabaly the hacker buying their own coins , to try n create a buy spree.. problem is.. traders know math.. this will go no where till their all dumped. ( or a LARGE majority)

that was me, I accidentally put in the wrong price

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Quote from: CryptoLTD on December 17, 2014, 10:55:26 PM

Quote from: mafort1469 on December 17, 2014, 10:12:52 PM

Quote from: CryptoLTD on December 17, 2014, 10:11:16 PM

Quote from: CryptoNick on December 17, 2014, 10:03:15 PM

OPAL could still roll back. I think everyone is being too critical about a roll back. This coin is in it's infancy, If you are an investor and could catch a thief then all parties involved should be for a roll back since the coin was not bought outright and will crash along the way since it leads to PnD behavior in the markets. Everyone forgets that even 800K coins is about as much as it cost to get into the SuperNET, why pay thieves off or have that looming out there.

Can't we have the exchanges investigate the dumps that occurred? There was never any dumps like it so we all know that is the hacker if it came from one account and can be verified. An event on this scale is different than a few people getting some coins stolen. This was an attack on the community through this board. People were tricked and the authorities should get involved. People pay real money for these coins, if you want them to keep investing real money then there must be better safeguards and consequences for hackers.

I wonder if Opal could track the address that the coin was sent to and black list it on the exchanges and any subsequent coin sent from that wallet to any other address gets isolated. Is this possible, or too Centralized for everyone to agree with? It would be great if stolen coin could be blocked for good or recovered as soon as it hit the exchanges. Something like this has to be possible!

At least one of the exchanges I know of will NOT honor a roll back. (It starts with a 'C') What does that mean? Instant de-listing. In this case, I am NOT pro-roll back.. this was due to the idiocy of many, and not just 1. Opal is now long play... probably, VERY long.

Good, long play is what was planned all along so be happy!

Would you rather get all the bs outta the way at 2500 or when it is 100k???

Thats the problem, there will be no 10,20,50,100K untill those coins are sold, or a majority. You know as well as I, stagnant funds, dont grow.

Who know ? I think you underestimate the potentiel right now, the guys want his stack take value too,if he can... is probably seeing beautiful chart he affort to do much more.... Anyway,there some people maybe have more than this guys,anyone have a link to a rich list ?

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Quote from: CryptoLTD on December 17, 2014, 10:55:26 PM

Quote from: mafort1469 on December 17, 2014, 10:12:52 PM

Quote from: CryptoLTD on December 17, 2014, 10:11:16 PM

Quote from: CryptoNick on December 17, 2014, 10:03:15 PM

OPAL could still roll back. I think everyone is being too critical about a roll back. This coin is in it's infancy, If you are an investor and could catch a thief then all parties involved should be for a roll back since the coin was not bought outright and will crash along the way since it leads to PnD behavior in the markets. Everyone forgets that even 800K coins is about as much as it cost to get into the SuperNET, why pay thieves off or have that looming out there.

Can't we have the exchanges investigate the dumps that occurred? There was never any dumps like it so we all know that is the hacker if it came from one account and can be verified. An event on this scale is different than a few people getting some coins stolen. This was an attack on the community through this board. People were tricked and the authorities should get involved. People pay real money for these coins, if you want them to keep investing real money then there must be better safeguards and consequences for hackers.

I wonder if Opal could track the address that the coin was sent to and black list it on the exchanges and any subsequent coin sent from that wallet to any other address gets isolated. Is this possible, or too Centralized for everyone to agree with? It would be great if stolen coin could be blocked for good or recovered as soon as it hit the exchanges. Something like this has to be possible!

At least one of the exchanges I know of will NOT honor a roll back. (It starts with a 'C') What does that mean? Instant de-listing. In this case, I am NOT pro-roll back.. this was due to the idiocy of many, and not just 1. Opal is now long play... probably, VERY long.

Good, long play is what was planned all along so be happy!

Would you rather get all the bs outta the way at 2500 or when it is 100k???

Thats the problem, there will be no 10,20,50,100K untill those coins are sold, or a majority. You know as well as I, stagnant funds, dont grow.

True, true, however as he/she is a scam artist, I do not believe he/she will wait to dump (they want a quick buck) so within the next few weeks I expect/hope all of the stolen coins to be unloaded. Maybe and just maybe they will hold some for later but highly doubtful. I do think that this will pass in a few weeks and then OPAL will get back on track IMO. Time will tell though.

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Quote from: mafort1469 on December 17, 2014, 10:12:52 PM

Quote from: CryptoLTD on December 17, 2014, 10:11:16 PM

Quote from: CryptoNick on December 17, 2014, 10:03:15 PM

OPAL could still roll back. I think everyone is being too critical about a roll back. This coin is in it's infancy, If you are an investor and could catch a thief then all parties involved should be for a roll back since the coin was not bought outright and will crash along the way since it leads to PnD behavior in the markets. Everyone forgets that even 800K coins is about as much as it cost to get into the SuperNET, why pay thieves off or have that looming out there.

Can't we have the exchanges investigate the dumps that occurred? There was never any dumps like it so we all know that is the hacker if it came from one account and can be verified. An event on this scale is different than a few people getting some coins stolen. This was an attack on the community through this board. People were tricked and the authorities should get involved. People pay real money for these coins, if you want them to keep investing real money then there must be better safeguards and consequences for hackers.

I wonder if Opal could track the address that the coin was sent to and black list it on the exchanges and any subsequent coin sent from that wallet to any other address gets isolated. Is this possible, or too Centralized for everyone to agree with? It would be great if stolen coin could be blocked for good or recovered as soon as it hit the exchanges. Something like this has to be possible!

At least one of the exchanges I know of will NOT honor a roll back. (It starts with a 'C') What does that mean? Instant de-listing. In this case, I am NOT pro-roll back.. this was due to the idiocy of many, and not just 1. Opal is now long play... probably, VERY long.

Good, long play is what was planned all along so be happy!

Would you rather get all the bs outta the way at 2500 or when it is 100k???

Thats the problem, there will be no 10,20,50,100K untill those coins are sold, or a majority. You know as well as I, stagnant funds, dont grow.

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Quote from: NoobKidOnTheBlock on December 17, 2014, 10:34:12 PM

Quote from: DARKNE55 on December 17, 2014, 10:31:11 PM

Mate join us on irc we will give you a hand

How do I join the IRC??

go here: webchat.freenode.net/

type in your nickname in nickname field
type in #opalcoin in channels field
type in captcha

Don't worry about getting registered right now, just get on and get your wallet working and then we can help with getting you registered.

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Quote from: DARKNE55 on December 17, 2014, 10:31:11 PM

Mate join us on irc we will give you a hand

How do I join the IRC??

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Mate join us on irc we will give you a hand

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Quote from: bassguitarman on December 17, 2014, 09:44:28 PM

Quote from: NoobKidOnTheBlock on December 17, 2014, 09:41:08 PM

Quote from: bassguitarman on December 17, 2014, 09:38:18 PM

If you're one of the weird fudders who think opal team did this, blockchain don't lie.

Stolen funds were sent to: https://bchain.info/OPAL/addr/oJRnuVrDUMNWberPz2CvcmRGLPdLKi4Uqy

Return address: https://bchain.info/OPAL/addr/obUnRgQKkPUxMhjZ8aD769f8s2eP1eo7i5

Hey I never doubted you guys for a second but I still can't get a working OPAL wallet again since then and I've tried downloading right from the OPAL website and it still don't work?? Any ideas folks?

Did you add nodes?

Yes I did and when I get into the wallet there are no connections and when I go to the debug console thing it says stuff about shadow not found or something like that? I had 70000 coins in that OPAL wallet and frick me I'd be happy to have 1/10th of that back to my addy : oKQ2ts1uaN5kH93dWKWSWwGRULWQqXyemY but I would still be extremely happy if someone could help me get this wallet running again

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Quote from: CryptoLTD on December 17, 2014, 10:11:16 PM

Quote from: CryptoNick on December 17, 2014, 10:03:15 PM

OPAL could still roll back. I think everyone is being too critical about a roll back. This coin is in it's infancy, If you are an investor and could catch a thief then all parties involved should be for a roll back since the coin was not bought outright and will crash along the way since it leads to PnD behavior in the markets. Everyone forgets that even 800K coins is about as much as it cost to get into the SuperNET, why pay thieves off or have that looming out there.

Can't we have the exchanges investigate the dumps that occurred? There was never any dumps like it so we all know that is the hacker if it came from one account and can be verified. An event on this scale is different than a few people getting some coins stolen. This was an attack on the community through this board. People were tricked and the authorities should get involved. People pay real money for these coins, if you want them to keep investing real money then there must be better safeguards and consequences for hackers.

I wonder if Opal could track the address that the coin was sent to and black list it on the exchanges and any subsequent coin sent from that wallet to any other address gets isolated. Is this possible, or too Centralized for everyone to agree with? It would be great if stolen coin could be blocked for good or recovered as soon as it hit the exchanges. Something like this has to be possible!

At least one of the exchanges I know of will NOT honor a roll back. (It starts with a 'C') What does that mean? Instant de-listing. In this case, I am NOT pro-roll back.. this was due to the idiocy of many, and not just 1. Opal is now long play... probably, VERY long.

Good, long play is what was planned all along so be happy!

Would you rather get all the bs outta the way at 2500 or when it is 100k???

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