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devphp

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Quote from: gorillajam on June 15, 2014, 11:37:05 AM

Quote from: devphp on June 15, 2014, 11:32:48 AM

Quote from: PondSea on June 15, 2014, 11:29:34 AM

I took your "maths" and applied it to btc-e btc/USD.

I got a "average" of $399. That is pretty bearish. I have liquidated all my btc as it is only worth $399, it is $150 more right now. I'm going to make a killing with this new fancy calculations.....

Roll Eyes

It will not necessarily go as low as that, but when market sentiment is bullish the average price is close to the current price or even above it and usually after that the price starts rising. That's what I noticed anyway from observing order books, take it with a grain of salt.

people don't like using NXT. This is what you are illustrating to me. NXT is Myspace, Qora will be FB.

huh ok, it will happen as you say, I just shared my observations.

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Quote from: devphp on June 15, 2014, 11:32:48 AM

Quote from: PondSea on June 15, 2014, 11:29:34 AM

I took your "maths" and applied it to btc-e btc/USD.

I got a "average" of $399. That is pretty bearish. I have liquidated all my btc as it is only worth $399, it is $150 more right now. I'm going to make a killing with this new fancy calculations.....

Roll Eyes

It will not necessarily go as low as that, but when market sentiment is bullish the average price is close to the current price or even above it and usually after that the price starts rising. That's what I noticed anyway from observing order books, take it with a grain of salt.

people don't like using NXT. This is what you are illustrating to me. NXT is Myspace, Qora will be FB.

devphp

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Quote from: PondSea on June 15, 2014, 11:29:34 AM

I took your "maths" and applied it to btc-e btc/USD.

I got a "average" of $399. That is pretty bearish. I have liquidated all my btc as it is only worth $399, it is $150 more right now. I'm going to make a killing with this new fancy calculations.....

Roll Eyes

It will not necessarily go as low as that, but when market sentiment is bullish the average price is close to the current price or even above it and usually after that the price starts rising. That's what I noticed anyway from observing order books, take it with a grain of salt.

PondSea

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I took your "maths" and applied it to btc-e btc/USD.

I got a "average" of $399. That is pretty bearish. I have liquidated all my btc as it is only worth $399, it is $150 more right now. I'm going to make a killing with this new fancy calculations.....

Roll Eyes

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Quote from: agran on June 15, 2014, 11:02:47 AM

Quote from: Skerberus on June 15, 2014, 10:34:42 AM

Hi everyone,
I created an installer for qora version 8 currently for windows x64.

Basically it contains a portable Java 7 update 60, so that you don't need to install java at all (it will not be known to the os) and it will only use that portable version.
Moreover you get a desktop shortcut and of course can choose the install location. This might help non tech people Wink

.
This is only the first version, so please report any bugs and tell me if it's helpful at all.

Important: No need to trust me, just check the virustotal link below or wait for another computer expert that you trust and that checks the file for you.

Download:

MD5 d493b34927fcb37d05b5ea881f8cd883
SHA1 5eb17e7edd77f66fd40cef1ef4902b4c50805679
SHA256 e1eff70ae89280eb77d03d4887930147905e8bb3e67889db8c09b0222fcd0ac1

Virustotal check:
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/e1eff70ae89280eb77d03d4887930147905e8bb3e67889db8c09b0222fcd0ac1/analysis/1402845742/

I do not recommend to use this installer. Very high risk.

Well this is just an attempt to make things easier for newbies. If the community or qora himself decides that this is not needed I will for sure remove it.

agran

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Quote from: Skerberus on June 15, 2014, 10:34:42 AM

Hi everyone,
I created an installer for qora version 8 currently for windows x64.

Basically it contains a portable Java 7 update 60, so that you don't need to install java at all (it will not be known to the os) and it will only use that portable version.
Moreover you get a desktop shortcut and of course can choose the install location. This might help non tech people Wink

.
This is only the first version, so please report any bugs and tell me if it's helpful at all.

Important: No need to trust me, just check the virustotal link below or wait for another computer expert that you trust and that checks the file for you.

Download:

MD5 d493b34927fcb37d05b5ea881f8cd883
SHA1 5eb17e7edd77f66fd40cef1ef4902b4c50805679
SHA256 e1eff70ae89280eb77d03d4887930147905e8bb3e67889db8c09b0222fcd0ac1

Virustotal check:
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/e1eff70ae89280eb77d03d4887930147905e8bb3e67889db8c09b0222fcd0ac1/analysis/1402845742/

I do not recommend to use this installer. Very high risk.

Bitcoin4ik

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Guys, why not add on Qora Bittrex?

devphp

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Quote from: devphp on June 15, 2014, 10:45:21 AM

But generally, calculating the average price by the order book you can feel the market sentiment, whether it's bullish or bearish.

Did you also calculate the average Ask? Undecided

It's neither Ask nor Buy I calculate. It's coin A exchanged for coin B, there are certains amounts of coin A and coin B loaded up in the order book to make deals. It's buyer's market in Qora right now, meaning a lot of people who want to unload their qoras and not enough buyers for those qoras. Buyers can pick and choose the price. The average price they are willing to pay now is 17 sat. That's all. For example, in Litecoin it's 0.0043 BTC or $2 right now according to Btc-e order book.

agran

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Quote from: Breasal on June 15, 2014, 09:41:25 AM

Blockexplorer - last processed block: 7678 (2014-06-15 07:51:55 utc, 6h 46m ago). http://coinia.net/qora/blockexplorer.php

Edit: my qora client is 7774 (21:38:51 UTC +7)

Faucet not working for me (continually get captcha error). Anyone else?

Agran, any report re: blockexplorer? Thanks!

I fixed it. Ask about similar problems to write me on mail [email protected] .

devphp

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Quote from: TwinWinNerD on June 15, 2014, 10:38:50 AM

Quote from: devphp on June 15, 2014, 10:27:47 AM

Guys, you shouldn't be so butt-hurt on the 17 satoshi, remember it's the average price of all buy orders at Poloniex. Some people are willing to buy Qora at 50+, some at 1 satoshi, average is 17 satoshi. Usually the price trend is in the direction of the average price, unless something unusual happens. Now, let's think together what unusual can happen to Qora?

Not that I give a shit what anyone on a forum says, but your calculation is ridiculous.

What does the selling side has to do with the BID orderbook?

Lets assume some guy wants only to sell his 500 M qora at 100 satoshis. This gets added to the calculations, now it looks like:

20.05 BTC in buy orders / 617985706 qora on sell orders = ~3.25 satoshis.

How exactly has the Sell order changed the "price the buyers want to buy"?

There are buyers with pockets full of 20.05 Bitcoins and there are sellers facing them with pockets full of... whatever was the number of Qora on sale. Now, that's all rough calculations, we can't know how much more Bitcoins and Qoras are not held in the order book, but just waiting to hit the order book later. But generally, calculating the average price by the order book you can feel the market sentiment, whether it's bullish or bearish. If the last sale price is 50 satoshi, but the average is 17 satoshi, I would say the market sentiment is bearish or will soon change to bearish, as clearly most buyers are willing to pay much less than 50 satoshi. At least that has been my experience from observing the order books of various exchanges, those that allow to view their order books. Something new or unusual can happen to reverse the sentiment, this is always a possibility.

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Quote from: devphp on June 15, 2014, 10:27:47 AM

Guys, you shouldn't be so butt-hurt on the 17 satoshi, remember it's the average price of all buy orders at Poloniex. Some people are willing to buy Qora at 50+, some at 1 satoshi, average is 17 satoshi. Usually the price trend is in the direction of the average price, unless something unusual happens. Now, let's think together what unusual can happen to Qora?

Not that I give a shit what anyone on a forum says, but your calculation is ridiculous.

What does the selling side has to do with the BID orderbook?

Lets assume some guy wants only to sell his 500 M qora at 100 satoshis. This gets added to the calculations, now it looks like:

20.05 BTC in buy orders / 617985706 qora on sell orders = ~3.25 satoshis.

How exactly has the Sell order changed the "price the buyers want to buy"?

Skerberus

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Hi everyone,
I created an installer for qora version 8 currently for windows x64.

Basically it contains a portable Java 7 update 60, so that you don't need to install java at all (it will not be known to the os) and it will only use that portable version.
Moreover you get a desktop shortcut and of course can choose the install location. This might help non tech people Wink

.
This is only the first version, so please report any bugs and tell me if it's helpful at all.

Important: No need to trust me, just check the virustotal link below or wait for another computer expert that you trust and that checks the file for you.

Download:
https://mega.co.nz/#!98AC1ApZ!cjW2xeLVYE6ml7HxCzvDjydg1BSue360U2rK797COxg

MD5 d493b34927fcb37d05b5ea881f8cd883
SHA1 5eb17e7edd77f66fd40cef1ef4902b4c50805679
SHA256 e1eff70ae89280eb77d03d4887930147905e8bb3e67889db8c09b0222fcd0ac1

Virustotal check:
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/e1eff70ae89280eb77d03d4887930147905e8bb3e67889db8c09b0222fcd0ac1/analysis/1402845742/

devphp

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Guys, you shouldn't be so butt-hurt on the 17 satoshi, remember it's the average price of all buy orders at Poloniex. Some people are willing to buy Qora at 50+, some at 1 satoshi, average is 17 satoshi. Usually the price trend is in the direction of the average price, unless something unusual happens. Now, let's think together what unusual can happen to Qora?

Breasal

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Quote from: ?? on ??

7743 Jun 15, 2014 5:43:48 PM QLhZJceHVrB6FYmSpoSpN4gZioeyoA5fC4 1411695171 0 0.00000000

7743 June 15, 2014 21:12:37 QT1AvqWfbJecLY9fckdPoB3Tg2ZLTEPVXC 1411695171 0 0.00000000

Who's on fork?

Breasal

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Blockexplorer - last processed block: 7678 (2014-06-15 07:51:55 utc, 6h 46m ago). http://coinia.net/qora/blockexplorer.php

Edit: my qora client is 7774 (21:38:51 UTC +7)

Faucet not working for me (continually get captcha error). Anyone else?

Agran, any report re: blockexplorer? Thanks!

twistelaar

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Quote from: 50cent_rapper on June 15, 2014, 07:45:22 AM

Quote from: Corleone1918 on June 15, 2014, 07:37:06 AM

Quote from: Corleone1918 on June 15, 2014, 07:24:37 AM

Quote from: devphp on June 15, 2014, 06:43:40 AM

Buyers are willing to pay only 17 satoshi on average,

20.05 BTC in buy orders / 117985706 qora on sell orders = ~17 satoshi.

so , please go to buy qora on 17 sat.

and I will buy your qora on 30 sat. Grin

Price will skyrocket when Qora hits bter and cryptsy
That's no doubt about it for me.

Price will also skyrocket when more and more people will realize 2ND GEN is the future. People already realizing it with NXT. That's why NXT is stable for a long time and keeps growing. It's just a matter of time and Qora will also be in top 10 coinmarketcap. Everyday there are more people that are seeing the huge potential and the innovative features of this coin.

Once the website and promo video are done and we have a complete product in every aspect, we can start doing serieus marketing, from there Qora will easy hit 1000 satoshi and more.

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Quote from: PondSea on June 15, 2014, 07:15:30 AM

Quote from: devphp on June 15, 2014, 06:43:40 AM

Buyers are willing to pay only 17 satoshi on average,

20.05 BTC in buy orders / 117985706 qora on sell orders = ~17 satoshi.

Why not say 10 billion coins, only 20 BTC buy order so average price of qora is 0.000000002

Roll Eyes

I dont want to sound hostile but you make yourself look like a stupid idiot with these types of posts.

more than stupid, since "20.05 BTC in buy orders / 117985706 qora on sell orders = ~17 satoshi." makes no sense.

50cent_rapper

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Quote from: Corleone1918 on June 15, 2014, 07:37:06 AM

Quote from: Corleone1918 on June 15, 2014, 07:24:37 AM

Quote from: devphp on June 15, 2014, 06:43:40 AM

Buyers are willing to pay only 17 satoshi on average,

20.05 BTC in buy orders / 117985706 qora on sell orders = ~17 satoshi.

so , please go to buy qora on 17 sat.

and I will buy your qora on 30 sat. Grin

Price will skyrocket when Qora hits bter and cryptsy
That's no doubt about it for me.

Corleone1918

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Quote from: Corleone1918 on June 15, 2014, 07:24:37 AM

Quote from: devphp on June 15, 2014, 06:43:40 AM

Buyers are willing to pay only 17 satoshi on average,

20.05 BTC in buy orders / 117985706 qora on sell orders = ~17 satoshi.

so , please go to buy qora on 17 sat.

and I will buy your qora on 30 sat. Grin

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Quote from: devphp on June 15, 2014, 06:43:40 AM

Buyers are willing to pay only 17 satoshi on average,

20.05 BTC in buy orders / 117985706 qora on sell orders = ~17 satoshi.

Are you sure you have learned math. Grin

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