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I am sure that soon qora will appear on bter.com

Thanks for your comment, but we need people to build and promote this coin. So get to work, we are going to make it happen together.

When someone asks "what are the benefits of Qora over NXT" what do you reply?

To be Honest, I don't know. Tell me, because I want to actively help and build Qora. Thank you.

Security. Qora uses a secure seed to regenerate a Wallet + a private key to make sure the wallet is save for everyday use.
Besides that, not much at the moment. Theoretically Qora has varying block speeds to match the current amount transactions being processed. As there are not that much transactions in the net, this feature is dorment at the moment. I think it will lead to Qora being more efficient than NXT in the end. Can't tell for sure at the moment though.

Doesn't Qora also have a smaller transaction fee than NXT?

And much better client. Launching Nxt client takes forever, plus it's web based. Also everybody can access your Nxt account unlike Qora client, so Qora is more secure. Plus fully functioning Naming Service.

We are talking about a completely new POS algorithm here! And totally new code!

Plus the wallet is absolutely awesome. Simple, fast and user friendly

Is there any explanation of what the actually means? This coin looks very interesting and I am onboard, but you have to admit, the OP has a lot of sound bites with very little substance.


You could look at it like that or you could look at it that he's focused on the real development of the coin and not marketing. In fact he has said he doesn't plan to market Qora until the client is finished. In theory if left to his timing, Qora wouldn't be on an exchange and there would be zero marketing. But like he has said he can't stop people doing these things even if he wanted to.

I get that. But, then why officially release it before the wallet is ready then? What's the hurry?

I admit Crypto is a funny world. What other company releases products half made, imagine a car rolling out without seats and half the engine., but that is not rare in Crypto, half of the major coins are a work in progress, so its not a fair criticism.

The wallet was released in beta form for quite a while and Qora wanted people to play tough with it to find bugs. I'm guessing most people didn't, the dev did his best. Coins are a community project, maybe we should look at release of coins as more like a Kickstarter project than a fully developed product. We are all part of the development in the end, which is actually a pretty great thing.

Wait for Etherum if you want a corporate product, with corporate prices and the community is told how things are gonna develop rather than being asked how they want things to go.
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Where is giveway..

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How I got the Qora client working on Mac OSX ver 10.9.3

Hmmmm.. My Mac worked fine at v5, just had connectivity issues. Did you download the lastest v6 and install java 7 update 55 first?


Could you please write an instruction for Mac users?

The best (and only) we have so far is https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=522102.msg6771214;topicseen#msg6771214

Don't know if it's helpful. Lots of people asking how to launch Qora on Mac.


The following steps worked for me:

1. Download the latest version, which you find here :
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6771479



2. Unzip it to a suitable directory.

3. Open a terminal window, and Check Java version:
Do whatever it takes to have the proper version installed (beyond this scope)

Code:
MacBook-Pro:~ user$ java -version
java version "1.7.0_09"
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_09-b05)
Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 23.5-b02, mixed mode)
4. In terminal window, change to the expanded directory:

Code:
MacBook-Pro:Qora stefan$ ls -la
total 23000
drwxrwxr-x@ 9 user  staff       306 27 May 12:33 .
drwxr-xr-x  7 user  staff       238 27 May 12:33 ..
-rw-rw-r--@ 1 user  staff      6148 27 May 12:33 .DS_Store
-rwxrwxr-x@ 1 user  staff  11753032 25 May 23:29 Qora.jar
drwxrwxr-x@ 4 user  staff       136 16 May 15:34 images
drwxrwxr-x@ 3 user  staff       102  2 Apr 13:20 libs
-rwxrwxr-x@ 1 user  staff        59 16 May 18:43 run.bat
-rwxrwxr-x@ 1 user  staff        71 16 May 15:53 run.sh
-rwxrwxr-x@ 1 user  staff        84 25 May 23:10 settings.ini

5. Trying to run the executable , gave an error:

Code:
macroots-MacBook-Pro:Qora user$ ./run.sh
-bash: ./run.sh: Operation not permitted

I checked permissions, that seemed to be OK, even though on Linux Mint, permissions for run.sh needed to be made executable.

6. The following command, as suggested for using in Ubuntu elswhere, ( just leaving out the -disablegui flag) started the client successfully:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6772874

Code:
MacBook-Pro:Qora user$ java -Xmx256m -Djava.library.path=libs/native -jar Qora.jar

That started it started up successfully.

Then look for the wallet start-up dialog window appearing.
Leave the command line terminal window running, of course.
(control-c will terminate the process)

Of course you can edit the run.sh file accordingly, for easy re-starts.

Pentamon

Both methods are not working for me on OSX 10.6.8
Code:
2014-05-28 04:46:16.638:INFO:oejs.Server:main: jetty-9.1.z-SNAPSHOT
May 28, 2014 4:46:20 AM org.glassfish.jersey.server.ApplicationHandler initialize
INFO: Initiating Jersey application, version Jersey: 2.7 2014-03-12 18:11:31...
2014-05-28 04:46:23.449:INFO:oejsh.ContextHandler:main: Started o.e.j.s.ServletContextHandler@61656596{/,null,AVAILABLE}
2014-05-28 04:46:23.568:INFO:oejs.ServerConnector:main: Started ServerConnector@37b9f7e8{HTTP/1.1}{0.0.0.0:9085}
May 28, 2014 4:46:23 AM c.f as
INFO: Peers retrieved from database : 0
May 28, 2014 4:46:23 AM c.f as
INFO: Peers retrieved after settings : 0
2014-05-28 04:46:23.684 java[1040:1707] *** NSInvocation: warning: object 0x106fca390 of class 'ThreadUtilities' does not implement methodSignatureForSelector: -- trouble ahead
2014-05-28 04:46:23.687 java[1040:1707] *** NSInvocation: warning: object 0x106fca390 of class 'ThreadUtilities' does not implement doesNotRecognizeSelector: -- abort
Trace/BPT trap

The problem is 10.6.8, it's a pain to get java 7 working as there is no official java 7 for it . Here is a video that might help. Good Luck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFi-H-7-PD4
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Another newbie question:
After running two days without hickup, I noticed that all transactions are not visible, and
the amounts that used to appear under Confirmed Balance, are now under Balance, the numbers are double what I had in there, except there is a negative in front of it:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1K4SIuF-b3NR0NZbjY4YmpkVGs/edit?usp=sharing

My terminal window seems to keep going unperturbed.
What does this mean?

Pentamon

That's something new. Could you please PM dev this.

Sure, if it does not disturb him. I was wondering if there is a better forum for technical stuff or bug reports like this?

Pentamon


Of course not, he specifically asked to PM him all bugs coz he doesn't have time to follow all discussions.
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Another newbie question:
After running two days without hickup, I noticed that all transactions are not visible, and
the amounts that used to appear under Confirmed Balance, are now under Balance, the numbers are double what I had in there, except there is a negative in front of it:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1K4SIuF-b3NR0NZbjY4YmpkVGs/edit?usp=sharing

My terminal window seems to keep going unperturbed.
What does this mean?

Pentamon

That's something new. Could you please PM dev this.

Sure, if it does not disturb him. I was wondering if there is a better forum for technical stuff or bug reports like this?

Pentamon
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Oh my mistake thanks

Steve
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Did i miss the linux wallet or is there none?

Steve

It is the same wallet
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Did i miss the linux wallet or is there none?

Steve

It is java based. Works on every system afaik
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Did i miss the linux wallet or is there none?

Steve
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Big holders, please dump your coins at poloniex.  Grin

Actually I'm buying at this price Smiley
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Big holders, please dump your coins at poloniex.  Grin
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@ idev

Let's wait for someone who knows how to finish setting up.

No problem.
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Let's wait for someone who knows how to finish setting up.
legendary
Activity: 1806
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Another newbie question:
After running two days without hickup, I noticed that all transactions are not visible, and
the amounts that used to appear under Confirmed Balance, are now under Balance, the numbers are double what I had in there, except there is a negative in front of it:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1K4SIuF-b3NR0NZbjY4YmpkVGs/edit?usp=sharing

My terminal window seems to keep going unperturbed.
What does this mean?

Pentamon

That's something new. Could you please PM dev this.
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How I got the Qora client working on Mac OSX ver 10.9.3

Hmmmm.. My Mac worked fine at v5, just had connectivity issues. Did you download the lastest v6 and install java 7 update 55 first?


Could you please write an instruction for Mac users?

The best (and only) we have so far is https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=522102.msg6771214;topicseen#msg6771214

Don't know if it's helpful. Lots of people asking how to launch Qora on Mac.


The following steps worked for me:

1. Download the latest version, which you find here :
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6771479



2. Unzip it to a suitable directory.

3. Open a terminal window, and Check Java version:
Do whatever it takes to have the proper version installed (beyond this scope)

Code:
MacBook-Pro:~ user$ java -version
java version "1.7.0_09"
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_09-b05)
Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 23.5-b02, mixed mode)
4. In terminal window, change to the expanded directory:

Code:
MacBook-Pro:Qora stefan$ ls -la
total 23000
drwxrwxr-x@ 9 user  staff       306 27 May 12:33 .
drwxr-xr-x  7 user  staff       238 27 May 12:33 ..
-rw-rw-r--@ 1 user  staff      6148 27 May 12:33 .DS_Store
-rwxrwxr-x@ 1 user  staff  11753032 25 May 23:29 Qora.jar
drwxrwxr-x@ 4 user  staff       136 16 May 15:34 images
drwxrwxr-x@ 3 user  staff       102  2 Apr 13:20 libs
-rwxrwxr-x@ 1 user  staff        59 16 May 18:43 run.bat
-rwxrwxr-x@ 1 user  staff        71 16 May 15:53 run.sh
-rwxrwxr-x@ 1 user  staff        84 25 May 23:10 settings.ini

5. Trying to run the executable , gave an error:

Code:
macroots-MacBook-Pro:Qora user$ ./run.sh
-bash: ./run.sh: Operation not permitted

I checked permissions, that seemed to be OK, even though on Linux Mint, permissions for run.sh needed to be made executable.

6. The following command, as suggested for using in Ubuntu elswhere, ( just leaving out the -disablegui flag) started the client successfully:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6772874

Code:
MacBook-Pro:Qora user$ java -Xmx256m -Djava.library.path=libs/native -jar Qora.jar

That started it started up successfully.

Then look for the wallet start-up dialog window appearing.
Leave the command line terminal window running, of course.
(control-c will terminate the process)

Of course you can edit the run.sh file accordingly, for easy re-starts.

Pentamon

Both methods are not working for me on OSX 10.6.8
Code:
2014-05-28 04:46:16.638:INFO:oejs.Server:main: jetty-9.1.z-SNAPSHOT
May 28, 2014 4:46:20 AM org.glassfish.jersey.server.ApplicationHandler initialize
INFO: Initiating Jersey application, version Jersey: 2.7 2014-03-12 18:11:31...
2014-05-28 04:46:23.449:INFO:oejsh.ContextHandler:main: Started o.e.j.s.ServletContextHandler@61656596{/,null,AVAILABLE}
2014-05-28 04:46:23.568:INFO:oejs.ServerConnector:main: Started ServerConnector@37b9f7e8{HTTP/1.1}{0.0.0.0:9085}
May 28, 2014 4:46:23 AM c.f as
INFO: Peers retrieved from database : 0
May 28, 2014 4:46:23 AM c.f as
INFO: Peers retrieved after settings : 0
2014-05-28 04:46:23.684 java[1040:1707] *** NSInvocation: warning: object 0x106fca390 of class 'ThreadUtilities' does not implement methodSignatureForSelector: -- trouble ahead
2014-05-28 04:46:23.687 java[1040:1707] *** NSInvocation: warning: object 0x106fca390 of class 'ThreadUtilities' does not implement doesNotRecognizeSelector: -- abort
Trace/BPT trap
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Activity: 140
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Another newbie question:
After running two days without hickup, I noticed that all transactions are not visible, and
the amounts that used to appear under Confirmed Balance, are now under Balance, the numbers are double what I had in there, except there is a negative in front of it:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1K4SIuF-b3NR0NZbjY4YmpkVGs/edit?usp=sharing

My terminal window seems to keep going unperturbed.
What does this mean?

Pentamon
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I've just set up a node, what do i do next  Huh

Is there a client interface ?

How do i get an address ?

Setting up a node — https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6939330

The client — https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6937495

I've already set up the node which is running now and of course i have the files but how do i access the client ?

Ah, ok. Didn't get at first.

1. Install the last version of Java from java.com
2. Unzip archive with the client
3. Double click run.bat
4. Save generated seed outside the computer and keep it safe. It's the only way to recover your wallet.
5. Every user has 10 addresses by default. You can use any of them.

And just in case, here's faq — https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iKOkeYape3erM45g3VoRxHzY0kLgy84LT7sPLI9847M/edit

Here's what i did.

Installed a node following this guide: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6943209 by running the run.sh file.

Which is showing this sort of stuff.
Code:
INFO: received message 7 from /146.185.141.232
May 27, 2014 11:17:59 PM d.a getTime
INFO: Adjusting time with -3 milliseconds.
May 27, 2014 11:17:59 PM a.a a
INFO: received new valid block
May 27, 2014 11:17:59 PM c.e b
INFO: Sending message 7 to /162.243.170.76
May 27, 2014 11:17:59 PM c.e b
INFO: Sending message 7 to /23.92.80.107
May 27, 2014 11:17:59 PM c.e run
INFO: received message 7 from /162.243.170.76
May 27, 2014 11:17:59 PM c.e run
INFO: received message 7 from /23.92.80.107

I already have the files from Qora.v6 when i installed node from the guide above. What do i do next to be able to access the client.
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