Topic: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source - page 467. (Read 748234 times)

i dont have that information. i do all of my accounting on the blokchain. he can just release an announcement on this threat saying that he needs everyone who invested to do X and every single one of the people who invested can prove that they have done so by signing a message. i insured that everyone be able to sign a message for just contingencies just such as this one.

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A couple of options.

WTF, 666 coins for 24 hours working node? I'd do it for 666 Nxt per day. Probably. Or if NHZ has a 100'000 coins supply. Looks like scam to me. They didn't publish ANY info. How many coins exists, how will be distributed, nothing.

Your point is a good one...why reinvent the wheel when secure platforms exist (except to make money...which is ok...but does not always happen). One development example on an existing platform is NeXT Horizon (NHZ). NHZ is a very cool up-and-coming coin to watch...POS with distribution similar to "mining" having automated payouts on their server bounty system (SBS) for securing the network...yes incentive for securing the p2p network on POS coin...great idea. It is currently a level entry playing field for all...the ledger is public and all coins accounted for.

NHZ is still in early development but because the devs use the NXT platform, they spend time and energy to improve on NXT and to create new tools that are in demand rather than starting from scratch...which can take years to establish. The NHZ community is still small...resources coming along and devs are quite good: clearly a few were involved in the development of NXT and know its flaws and vulnerabilities.

The devs created a very cool NHZ give-away (digital easter egg hunt) on the blockchain where you receive free coins by finding hidden eggs that are on pages of the blockchain - very cool and innovative. Check it out:

http://explorer.nhzcrypto.org/?page=easterEgg

Happy Easter.

(I've invested 1 BTC in Qora IPO - re-thinking after this discussion - thanks to Anon)

EDIT: I'm not bashing Qora - it could work out. But the discussion is one to consider

Could someone send me coins please? QSbZwKXLKCJAyBeFzNuRzFpVyce9zpqEtL

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Quora, when I enter Debug I start receiving hundreds of messages:
aпp 18, 2014 4:45:17 PM c.e run
INFO: received message 7 from /162.243.170.76
aпp 18, 2014 4:45:17 PM c.e a
INFO: Sending message 6 to /162.243.170.76
aпp 18, 2014 4:45:17 PM c.e run
INFO: received message 7 from /162.243.170.76
aпp 18, 2014 4:45:17 PM c.e a
INFO: Sending message 6 to /162.243.170.76
aпp 18, 2014 4:45:17 PM c.e run
INFO: received message 7 from /162.243.170.76

What if some people want to stay anonymous? It's pretty clear that I'm an investor, but it might not work for everybody.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hi y'all. Dzarmush's here.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1HyvPpAnmLpg5zLnR9k5dUDQfzi8ENWAdi
IBpJtan74W2H5LvEN0My5e8RVJLsIlCMRxcGDYIgzvzBTNQtwOZ3WwWtzw/WduMLTrdfBaI99qFgrlVCo+a/+Fg=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

I know that when you want to release the transaction you need to proof ownership.
It is just easier to manage everything if we know which transactions belongs to which bitcointalk account before the release.

Anybody want a refund from Qora? I'm interested in buying your invesmnet. I think Qora will allow it since he's ready to make refunds.

Exactly. Anon doesn't even refund without you singing a transaction. Why would we need to prove something to somebody. Anon knows his business, let the man make it his way.

That shouldn't happen I will look into it.

I believe that the features of cryptocurrencies will not decide which one will survive and which one not.
Some features will become useless and some will become standard in all cryptocurrencies.
I believe that at the end the most documented/user-friendly cryptocurrency will dominate.
Getting to this point might still take a few years.

Interesting analogy. I need to think about that.

From this perspective, Etherium should be the winner as several big businesses are involved IIRC.

Exactly, that is why I ask why I should support his particular one here? It adds nothing new to the protocol and network part of cryptocurrencies. At least, nobody could tell me one thing until now. So, I would like to see my resources invested in hardening and refining existing protocols and networks until somebody has a unique idea that is unable to be implemented in Nxt or Bitcoin.

That was all of my personal investment. You asked about my opinion whether that battle you described is settled:

I cannot forecast the future. However, I conceive real PoS (in the sense of Nxt, not in the sense of PPC or NVC) is the biggest leap forward for the cryptocurrency community. Everything new has to offer even more benefits and that is going to be real challenge in my opinion. With real PoS, we removed one big if not the biggest disadvantage of Bitcoin: wasting energy unnecessarily.

What is next? StorageCoin could be such thing as it offers real benefits (still on the infrastructure level), but they deliberately rely on Nxt for the consensus mechanism.

What about those neat features in Nxt (Asset Exchange, Voting System, Monetary System, Lending/Borrowing, to name a few)? That is because of the Nxt community. It has nothing to do with the technology as such. Compared to Bitcoin, the Nxt community is more flexible and more open. Nobody can tell whether the Nxt community will be as conservative as Bitcoin's is today. Right now, Nxt is the place where innovation is happening ON TOP of it. We simply do not need yet another blockchain to implement our ideas because Nxt allows it out of the box.

Me, too. Even the re-implementation idea is good.

Re-implementing a library is acceptable because libraries can be exchanged for another easily by almost everybody.

In case of a network, it is not re-implementing. It is re-creating a complete new ecosystem using its own resources. One does not simply substitute each Nxt node by a Qora node AND having the complete user base transferred.

Sent you also a PM.

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Hi Anon,

1.02 BTC sent for escrow from Blockchain.info. 1Bi6iU52aDecVy25TmrqU7VqB8yJhYWW5p

Tx ID: a5b6f7a167ee50c01fc17246ebd8b88400dfbec613ac06f42d05b479b3f143fa

please confirmed!
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sounds good.

thankyou and goodluck!

Clearly there is a battle for dominance in this market. The underlying system does have an influence on what people perceive is the best system even if its told to them by experts. People don't really understand how Bitcoin works but after 5 mins they can see people can see their transactions so they arent anonomous and they must wait a few minutes before they can send safely Bitcoin. NXT transfers in an instant, as does Ripple, innovation is coming as new protocols are coded.

But if you think the battle for dominant system that the masses might be using in 10 years time is as its already decided? I would love to know what you think it is?

Why not go out into the street and ask the first person you see and ask them if they are using Bitcoin or NXT for their digital transactions. Like I said its an open field, we don't know what protocol or network the average person will be using years from now...if any.


In Crypto people love to use the analogy of FB and Myspace, but I think a better one is Windows VS Mac O.S. Because certain decisions high up in Buisness way away from the consumer meant Microsoft won because they got the licence for PC's. Its this kind of unknown that is being battled not at the consumer level but at the developer level that will influence the future for Crypto I believe.

That is the difference between protocols, networks and user interfaces. The latter is for the masses, the former two are for a solid foundation.

Maybe, somebody could explain to me why Average Joe knowing nothing about Congestion Avoidance and Traffic Control yet is able to use Chrome.

So, nobody uses OpenSSL anymore? Nobody uses the general concept of OpenSSL anymore? I doubt it.

Hmmm that really puzzles me.. I guess Anon could give the btt usernames to qora, don't know why qora asked us instead of him..

What do you think?

Became strange work and I deleted the folder "data" and "wallet" and again executed command importAccountSeed. In the tab "Naming Service" lost all my names.