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wizzardTim

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Quote from: wizzardTim on April 18, 2014, 08:10:09 AM

Quote from: wizzardTim on April 18, 2014, 08:00:20 AM

Quote from: qora on April 18, 2014, 07:32:38 AM

IMPORTANT!

Anon136 has not kept track of which transaction belongs to which bitcointalk account. Everyone that invested through Anon136 needs to contact me and provide me with proof that they are the owner of the transaction!

Ok I will contact you. In this topic and with PM.

Sent you also a PM.

Quote from: wizzardTim on April 06, 2014, 06:36:48 PM

Hi Anon!! Hope you're doing well

I sent 1.02BTC for QORA

Tx ID: 64796519b6109608e6337ea8f305a997ee571e4ea74809d37f7e05291677bdbf

https://blockchain.info/tx/64796519b6109608e6337ea8f305a997ee571e4ea74809d37f7e05291677bdbf

My Address: 1Ls3wjK6AZ48umFZWpcYTrNVSNq5ZGUPTv

Please confirm

Thanks in advance

This is the message I sent to Anon, which he confirmed:

Quote from: Anon136 on April 06, 2014, 08:42:23 PM

sounds good.

I can also sign a message or send a small amount again if needed.

EDIT: I signed my address:

@qora: address: 1Ls3wjK6AZ48umFZWpcYTrNVSNq5ZGUPTv
message: wizzardTim from BTT for Qora
signature: H0V+xhYHlEIZ7YHrCPeVSN6JPAKEuYjhh8aE+eAdJZHI+yVr61UhG35Az4xc+JiW+oykkXYLAoOUAx8xnzFriWA=

quoting just to proove qora that I am the owner of the address and I sent Anon 1.02 BTC

eli_lyd1

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Quote from: notsoshifty on April 18, 2014, 09:12:40 AM

Quote from: ChuckOne on April 18, 2014, 08:47:57 AM

Thank you for sharing your interests. As it seems they a different from mine.

VW and Audi are companies. They need to make money and they copy as hell.
Nxt and Bitcoin were not supposed to do that. They are supposed to be platforms. There is actually no need to copy them, especially not conceptually.

The only reason I see why people continue creating coins are: to get a piece of the cake. I fail to see why I should support that. I would rather see them working on existing platforms, increasing the user-base and education Average Joes IF they do not come up with an innovative idea that is worth yet another blockchain, and yet another network.

Indeed, they perhaps differ just a little.

I'm happy that the environment allows people to develop alternative ideas in whatever way they see fit and are able. I support innovation in the form of truly new ideas, but also if existing ideas are reimplemented in a different way.

Bitcoin and Nxt aren't perfect. There are flaws, and we don't know them all yet. Didn't someone find a tiny bug in OpenSSL recently?

I think the btc , nxt, or qora are just experiments, we must try, and to make a better one.

notsoshifty

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Quote from: ChuckOne on April 18, 2014, 08:47:57 AM

Thank you for sharing your interests. As it seems they a different from mine.

VW and Audi are companies. They need to make money and they copy as hell.
Nxt and Bitcoin were not supposed to do that. They are supposed to be platforms. There is actually no need to copy them, especially not conceptually.

The only reason I see why people continue creating coins are: to get a piece of the cake. I fail to see why I should support that. I would rather see them working on existing platforms, increasing the user-base and education Average Joes IF they do not come up with an innovative idea that is worth yet another blockchain, and yet another network.

Indeed, they perhaps differ just a little.

I'm happy that the environment allows people to develop alternative ideas in whatever way they see fit and are able. I support innovation in the form of truly new ideas, but also if existing ideas are reimplemented in a different way.

Bitcoin and Nxt aren't perfect. There are flaws, and we don't know them all yet. Didn't someone find a tiny bug in OpenSSL recently?

nextgencoin

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Quote from: ChuckOne on April 18, 2014, 08:47:57 AM

Quote from: notsoshifty on April 18, 2014, 08:23:07 AM

Investing on the belief that the value of the investment may go up significantly doesn't necessarily mean it is "pump and dump" (even if 90% of the altcoin threads basically are this).

Apart from random speculation, my interests in this are:
- The code base/architecture upon which Qora is being built may turn out to be more flexible for future developments than Nxt, even if the plans at launch offer no concrete advantages
- The stewardship of the Nxt codebase appears fine now, but who knows what it will be like in 12 months
- A fatal flaw might be found in Nxt and all its (near-)copycats. Even if independently developed coins like Qora have no unique features at present, it would leave the crypto community with options. Eggs/baskets/etc.

Why do Audi sell cars if VW ones are perfectly good for the job?

Thank you for sharing your interests. As it seems they a different from mine.

VW and Audi are companies. They need to make money and they copy as hell.
Nxt and Bitcoin were not supposed to do that. They are supposed to be platforms. There is actually no need to copy them, especially not conceptually.

The only reason I see why people continue creating coins are: to get a piece of the cake. I fail to see why I should support that. I would rather see them working on existing platforms, increasing the user-base and education Average Joes IF they do not come up with an innovative idea that is worth yet another blockchain, and yet another network.

Its not that simple. I'm an investor in NXT but I struggle to use and see the system as user friendly for the masses. Apart from Bitcoin that does have some flaws there is clearly room for a system that might have similar functions but puts it together in a way that the masses can use and we can see mass adoption. WE are very early in the age of Digital currencies. The field is very much open. This is all about who will inspire mass adoption, so far even Bitcoin is a tiny, tiny fraction of money movement in the world.

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Quote from: notsoshifty on April 18, 2014, 08:23:07 AM

Investing on the belief that the value of the investment may go up significantly doesn't necessarily mean it is "pump and dump" (even if 90% of the altcoin threads basically are this).

Apart from random speculation, my interests in this are:
- The code base/architecture upon which Qora is being built may turn out to be more flexible for future developments than Nxt, even if the plans at launch offer no concrete advantages
- The stewardship of the Nxt codebase appears fine now, but who knows what it will be like in 12 months
- A fatal flaw might be found in Nxt and all its (near-)copycats. Even if independently developed coins like Qora have no unique features at present, it would leave the crypto community with options. Eggs/baskets/etc.

Why do Audi sell cars if VW ones are perfectly good for the job?

Thank you for sharing your interests. As it seems they a different from mine.

VW and Audi are companies. They need to make money and they copy as hell.
Nxt and Bitcoin were not supposed to do that. They are supposed to be platforms. There is actually no need to copy them, especially not conceptually.

The only reason I see why people continue creating coins are: to get a piece of the cake. I fail to see why I should support that. I would rather see them working on existing platforms, increasing the user-base and education Average Joes IF they do not come up with an innovative idea that is worth yet another blockchain, and yet another network.

nextgencoin

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Is number 4. "Password protected wallets that can be recovered/generated from seeds."

a unique feature? I know many wouldn't touch alt coins if they lost their money if they lose a password.

In regard to the listed features, are there some unique things, I'm not tech minded but it seems there are some differences to other major ecosystems like NXT?

TCP?

Would be good to get some opinions from experts.

eli_lyd1

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Quote from: Agestorzrxx on April 18, 2014, 08:25:25 AM

Quote from: notsoshifty on April 18, 2014, 08:23:07 AM

Quote from: ChuckOne on April 18, 2014, 07:56:59 AM

I still do not understand why people continue creating different blockchains, protocols etc when e.g. Nxt or Bitcoin is out there.

Nxt has a highly active community and developers. Both are extremely open for suggestions, new features, projects etc. As long as people do not create coins with conceptually different consensus algos and different features, I do not see why I would need to invest here.

Have a look at StorageCoin, please. I would call that innovative. But Qora? Where is the innovation?

The only reason I would invest here is to pump and dump the shit out of this coin. But I fear I aged somewhat over the last couple of years to leave that part to others.

Maybe, someone could enlighten me why this coin is innovative.

Investing on the belief that the value of the investment may go up significantly doesn't necessarily mean it is "pump and dump" (even if 90% of the altcoin threads basically are this).

Apart from random speculation, my interests in this are:
- The code base/architecture upon which Qora is being built may turn out to be more flexible for future developments than Nxt, even if the plans at launch offer no concrete advantages
- The stewardship of the Nxt codebase appears fine now, but who knows what it will be like in 12 months
- A fatal flaw might be found in Nxt and all its (near-)copycats. Even if independently developed coins like Qora have no unique features at present, it would leave the crypto community with options. Eggs/baskets/etc.

Why do Audi sell cars if VW ones are perfectly good for the job?

Exactly.

I think we should talk about it after the coin come out.
When the NXT IPO, also many people think it is a scam.

Agestorzrxx

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Quote from: notsoshifty on April 18, 2014, 08:23:07 AM

Quote from: ChuckOne on April 18, 2014, 07:56:59 AM

I still do not understand why people continue creating different blockchains, protocols etc when e.g. Nxt or Bitcoin is out there.

Nxt has a highly active community and developers. Both are extremely open for suggestions, new features, projects etc. As long as people do not create coins with conceptually different consensus algos and different features, I do not see why I would need to invest here.

Have a look at StorageCoin, please. I would call that innovative. But Qora? Where is the innovation?

The only reason I would invest here is to pump and dump the shit out of this coin. But I fear I aged somewhat over the last couple of years to leave that part to others.

Maybe, someone could enlighten me why this coin is innovative.

Investing on the belief that the value of the investment may go up significantly doesn't necessarily mean it is "pump and dump" (even if 90% of the altcoin threads basically are this).

Apart from random speculation, my interests in this are:
- The code base/architecture upon which Qora is being built may turn out to be more flexible for future developments than Nxt, even if the plans at launch offer no concrete advantages
- The stewardship of the Nxt codebase appears fine now, but who knows what it will be like in 12 months
- A fatal flaw might be found in Nxt and all its (near-)copycats. Even if independently developed coins like Qora have no unique features at present, it would leave the crypto community with options. Eggs/baskets/etc.

Why do Audi sell cars if VW ones are perfectly good for the job?

Exactly.

notsoshifty

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Quote from: ChuckOne on April 18, 2014, 07:56:59 AM

I still do not understand why people continue creating different blockchains, protocols etc when e.g. Nxt or Bitcoin is out there.

Nxt has a highly active community and developers. Both are extremely open for suggestions, new features, projects etc. As long as people do not create coins with conceptually different consensus algos and different features, I do not see why I would need to invest here.

Have a look at StorageCoin, please. I would call that innovative. But Qora? Where is the innovation?

The only reason I would invest here is to pump and dump the shit out of this coin. But I fear I aged somewhat over the last couple of years to leave that part to others.

Maybe, someone could enlighten me why this coin is innovative.

Investing on the belief that the value of the investment may go up significantly doesn't necessarily mean it is "pump and dump" (even if 90% of the altcoin threads basically are this).

Apart from random speculation, my interests in this are:
- The code base/architecture upon which Qora is being built may turn out to be more flexible for future developments than Nxt, even if the plans at launch offer no concrete advantages
- The stewardship of the Nxt codebase appears fine now, but who knows what it will be like in 12 months
- A fatal flaw might be found in Nxt and all its (near-)copycats. Even if independently developed coins like Qora have no unique features at present, it would leave the crypto community with options. Eggs/baskets/etc.

Why do Audi sell cars if VW ones are perfectly good for the job?

helloge

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Quote from: Djinou94 on April 18, 2014, 08:16:02 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: qora on April 18, 2014, 07:27:32 AM

I can not allow people to move from the IPO address to the escrow address now that the IPO is over.

Oh boy... here we go again!!! Grin

Edit: Hello... BCNext! Cheesy

I can not believe that

to da moon Grin

ChuckOne

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: ChuckOne on April 18, 2014, 07:56:59 AM

The only reason I would invest here is to pump and dump the shit out of this coin. But I fear I aged somewhat over the last couple of years to leave that part to others.

Your hair might be grayer than mine... but I bet you I have a bigger BALD spot!!! ROFLMAO! Grin

Rofl as well.

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Quote from: pvkpgp on April 18, 2014, 08:08:52 AM

Sorry I didn't catch Sad

After a notice Grin

You can buy some in a low price after it come out

ChuckOne

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Quote from: eli_lyd1 on April 18, 2014, 08:04:28 AM

Quote from: ChuckOne on April 18, 2014, 07:56:59 AM

I still do not understand why people continue creating different blockchains, protocols etc when e.g. Nxt or Bitcoin is out there.

Nxt has a highly active community and developers. Both are extremely open for suggestions, new features, projects etc. As long as people do not create coins with conceptually different consensus algos and different features, I do not see why I would need to invest here.

Have a look at StorageCoin, please. I would call that innovative. But Qora? Where is the innovation?

The only reason I would invest here is to pump and dump the shit out of this coin. But I fear I aged somewhat over the last couple of years to leave that part to others.

Maybe, someone could enlighten me why this coin is innovative.

Time will prove qora is innovative.

Huh? Either Qora is innovative or it is not. Adding more time to an idea does not make it more innovative.

If you mean changing the idea over time, it is then another idea. As it stands Qora is a Nxt clone conceptually. So, nothing new, nothing spectacular. AND more importantly already done several times.

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: qora on April 18, 2014, 07:27:32 AM

I can not allow people to move from the IPO address to the escrow address now that the IPO is over.

Oh boy... here we go again!!! Grin

Edit: Hello... BCNext! Cheesy

I can not believe that

wizzardTim

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Reality is stranger than fiction

Quote from: wizzardTim on April 18, 2014, 08:00:20 AM

Quote from: qora on April 18, 2014, 07:32:38 AM

IMPORTANT!

Anon136 has not kept track of which transaction belongs to which bitcointalk account. Everyone that invested through Anon136 needs to contact me and provide me with proof that they are the owner of the transaction!

Ok I will contact you. In this topic and with PM.

Sent you also a PM.

Quote from: wizzardTim on April 06, 2014, 06:36:48 PM

Hi Anon!! Hope you're doing well

I sent 1.02BTC for QORA

Tx ID: 64796519b6109608e6337ea8f305a997ee571e4ea74809d37f7e05291677bdbf

https://blockchain.info/tx/64796519b6109608e6337ea8f305a997ee571e4ea74809d37f7e05291677bdbf

My Address: 1Ls3wjK6AZ48umFZWpcYTrNVSNq5ZGUPTv

Please confirm

Thanks in advance

This is the message I sent to Anon, which he confirmed:

Quote from: Anon136 on April 06, 2014, 08:42:23 PM

sounds good.

I can also sign a message or send a small amount again if needed.

EDIT: I signed my address:

@qora: address: 1Ls3wjK6AZ48umFZWpcYTrNVSNq5ZGUPTv
message: wizzardTim from BTT for Qora
signature: H0V+xhYHlEIZ7YHrCPeVSN6JPAKEuYjhh8aE+eAdJZHI+yVr61UhG35Az4xc+JiW+oykkXYLAoOUAx8xnzFriWA=

pvkpgp

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Sorry I didn't catch Sad

After a notice Grin

eli_lyd1

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Quote from: ChuckOne on April 18, 2014, 07:56:59 AM

I still do not understand why people continue creating different blockchains, protocols etc when e.g. Nxt or Bitcoin is out there.

Nxt has a highly active community and developers. Both are extremely open for suggestions, new features, projects etc. As long as people do not create coins with conceptually different consensus algos and different features, I do not see why I would need to invest here.

Have a look at StorageCoin, please. I would call that innovative. But Qora? Where is the innovation?

The only reason I would invest here is to pump and dump the shit out of this coin. But I fear I aged somewhat over the last couple of years to leave that part to others.

Maybe, someone could enlighten me why this coin is innovative.

Time will prove qora is innovative.

wizzardTim

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Reality is stranger than fiction

Quote from: qora on April 18, 2014, 07:32:38 AM

IMPORTANT!

Anon136 has not kept track of which transaction belongs to which bitcointalk account. Everyone that invested through Anon136 needs to contact me and provide me with proof that they are the owner of the transaction!

Ok I will contact you. In this topic and with PM.

ChuckOne

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☕ NXT-4BTE-8Y4K-CDS2-6TB82

I still do not understand why people continue creating different blockchains, protocols etc when e.g. Nxt or Bitcoin is out there.

Nxt has a highly active community and developers. Both are extremely open for suggestions, new features, projects etc. As long as people do not create coins with conceptually different consensus algos and different features, I do not see why I would need to invest here.

Have a look at StorageCoin, please. I would call that innovative. But Qora? Where is the innovation?

The only reason I would invest here is to pump and dump the shit out of this coin. But I fear I aged somewhat over the last couple of years to leave that part to others.

Maybe, someone could enlighten me why this coin is innovative.

qora

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Quote from: Agestorzrxx on April 18, 2014, 07:45:12 AM

What does the exactly release date?

The release is planned to be within a month.
Do not rely on this though something unexpected might happen and we will only release when everything is working properly.

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