Topic: [ANN] Sfards:SF100, the first 28nm Dual-Mode Miner is accepting pre-order now - page 33. (Read 129801 times)

Official links?

Price is already released. 1.290,- $ each. Max take for first trial for  bigger farm are max 10 pcs. minimum 3 pcs.
Shipping next week.

I don't mean anything bad on it.   I guess I just surprised some of the things you said don't fall within their confidential info area on their NDA.  I like you for it though you are who I found out there would not be a S6 from reading your posts.

Anyways best of luck to you.


And as far as SFards I really hope we get some concrete information.  I would love to know dates, and prices.   The prototype looks great on first page.  I hope it hits production soon at a fair price.

Not enough miners use ASICs for heat to have any noticeable effect on demand and price.  Most home miners try to keep them out of their living space anyway.  I have never noticed a correlation between prices of mining gear rising or falling depending on the season.

Anyway, I won't buy an ASIC specifically for heat.  It is just an added perk if the prices are reasonable on the right ASIC at the right time.  My S5s and SP20s kept me nice and toasty all winter long.  My house is only 400 square feet in total, no basement.  It doesn't take much to heat it.  When I first got into mining, I didn't realize just how much heat this stuff can give off.  Summer of 2013 with 7 7950s running 24/7 was hell.

I do have an NDA with Bitmain, and although it allows me to make disclosures under good will its still an NDA. However there aren't any conspiracies to whistle-blow on, its pretty mundane in Bitmain land .


They existed in the sense that they were ready for production, but order numbers were too low for it to make sense for anyone to go ahead with it. It was cheaper to pay the customers much better than they would have with the L1 than to make them. While it might have been a different story if Litecoin didn't nosedive, the project was pulled and the design shelved.

My comments were in reference to the L1 being compared to a piece of preorder vapourware. Yes the L1 should never have been preordered (and if they did it today it wouldn't be), but no it wasn't vapourware.

I'm aware, I just like to point out dogie's superiority complex.

Who cares what did or did not happen with the L1? This is an Sfards thread, not Bitmain.

Can't we go back to fantasizing about new hardware that will end up predictably delayed and overpriced?

Even if he does know a lot about partners he no doubt signed a NDA.  So he will not be passing on information such as partners.

I could be wrong.  But I just don't see Dogie breaking his NDA, and I'm guessing he signed one with Bitmain I do not know for a fact.

I did NOT insinuate anyone is an ex-employee of bitmain, neither did I mean to imply that any such said probable ex-employee is capable of slinging brown-stuff all over the place to get even with (or twist the arm of) their supposed ex-employer. Read into that what you will .... suffice to say I have gotten off topic enough.

sfards, any timescale for we the downtrodden, small time home miner and pricing?

Show us a picture of them

Did you say racket? You ain't seen nothing yet!
What with all the disgruntled ex-employees tossing a fair amount of the brown-stuff about, its bound to get more interesting ..... just keep your eyes peeled!

So basically a free loan from pre-orders to get things rolling

Nice racket

Just like you can not find anything about the S:Next-one, they are self mining with the L1 ......

I could not find anything to suggest they ever finished development on the L1, but maybe you have some info I am unaware of.

Are they using them now?

Why do you suggest the L1 didn't exist? It did.

Reminds me of another fairy tale https://zeusminer.com/product/zeusminer-volcano-300mhs1000wscrypt-asic-miner/


and https://www.bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020140830074550960Um75pnzg06E3

Until I see some reviews from actual real users, the device and specs are a mythical creature to me.

once the blades dropped from 3000 to 100 or so yeah the price got stable 100 for a blade was pretty stable.

Of course I purchase at 500 and down  to 125  on blades until I had 17 of them.  I got tired of tweaking them and sold them off.

 It has no competition because Litecoin (much less any other scrypt coin) isn't worth spending money on a miner for at this point given the block reward halfing due any day now (which more than makes up for the current price after the pump-and-dump).

 I've never understood the so-called logic behind creating a chip that RELIES on BOTH SHA256 AND Scrypt being worth mining to make the CHIP worthwhile. Risk is more exponential on something like that, not just "double the risk".

 The pricing on the unit is totally insane. $800 would be MARGINAL at best on the HIGH side, and that's after factoring in the recent price gouging jumps out of Bitmain on the S5 (and the resulting SP20 pricing jumps). The SHA side is little if any more efficient than you can get out of a pair of SP20s and not THAT much better than the S5. The Scrypt side is little if any better than a Titan at max efficiency for the SFARDS, and not a lot better than the A2.

 I've ALSO never been impressed with the BOARD-LEVEL engineering displayed by Gridseed - the blades were just BADLY designed, what I've seen of the Black was little IF ANY better, the orbs were so-so at best. This makes me VERY uninclined to trust a miner UNIT from them - I'm FAR more inclined to trust Jabberwock (sp) as a board-level designer given the record of absolutely HORRIBLE board-level design in previous products out of Gridseed AKA SFARDS.

 Given their track record on board-level design, I don't see any significant sales happening to major farmers. Those folks would be more inclined to buy the chips and design their own RELIABLE board-level designs.




 Usually true, but the recent small bubble has messed up that theory pretty badly. Perhaps in a month or two after the Greece "bailout" settles out, if Bitcoin pricing settles back down again.