[ANN] Sfards:SF100, the first 28nm Dual-Mode Miner is accepting pre-order now - page 35.

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Quote from: J4bberwock on July 12, 2015, 08:37:32 PM

I'm waiting for a few informations regarding the 2 chips boards before I can confirm that it'll be a viable miner that's worth manufacturing.
The design isn't fully fixed yet for the voltage regulator. The first board uses a converter with integrated MOSFETs to save some space on board, but the definitive one may use a standard pair of MOSFETs like the old gridseed pods/blades to reduce cost for the end user.

Waiting patiently.... Cool

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Quote from: notlist3d on July 12, 2015, 09:10:00 PM

Quote from: DavieT1337 on July 12, 2015, 08:58:59 PM

whats the Price???

Were all waiting on this. There have been rumors but no official quote (I do not believe). Also it most likely depends also on size or order.

I see

Hopefully payable for Homeminers Roll Eyes

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Quote from: DavieT1337 on July 12, 2015, 08:58:59 PM

whats the Price???

Were all waiting on this. There have been rumors but no official quote (I do not believe). Also it most likely depends also on size or order.

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whats the Price???

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Quote from: QuintLeo on July 12, 2015, 08:56:31 AM

Quote from: J4bberwock on July 01, 2015, 11:56:14 AM

I don't know for the G black (still haven't got one in hands), but the heatsinks on the G blade are designed to dissipate something like 200 watts.
From what I can remember, my first fully overclocked G-Blade was drawing 350-400w.

With SF3301, 200 watts would be 5-6 chips hashing at a total of 400-500GH SHA, and 10-16MH scrypt on each PCB.
The number of chips on board is probably not high enough to make it economically interesting for the end user, but it can be done.

My dev board is 150x100mm

How about 8 chips, running at .6 volt 450 Mhz (BTC about 570 GH/s) .8v 450Mhz (LTC bit over 9 MH/s) option? Should be easy to fit on a 4"x8" PCB (perhaps a bit of overhang on one end to fit taller caps if needed kinda like the original GBlade boards), and the common clock in theory should make the board design a bit simpler and less expensive? Might be better to have non-common clocks kick the LTC side up to the .9v 700Mhz (15ish MH/s) option.

Current pricing on the SF3301 chips might make this a bit hard to keep to a reasonable price though - $300 or so would be competative with anything currently available IF doable but the SF3301s alone would be $240ish....

What you are asking for is one panel of the SF100 miner.
You have an estimate of chips price, then, add the price of the voltage regulators for both sides (BTC + LTC), heatsinks, and your final price won't be too far away from the unofficial SF100 price.

I'm waiting for a few informations regarding the 2 chips boards before I can confirm that it'll be a viable miner that's worth manufacturing.
The design isn't fully fixed yet for the voltage regulator. The first board uses a converter with integrated MOSFETs to save some space on board, but the definitive one may use a standard pair of MOSFETs like the old gridseed pods/blades to reduce cost for the end user.

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Quote from: notlist3d on July 12, 2015, 02:21:46 AM

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Quote from: pekatete on July 10, 2015, 12:13:46 PM

This is on the brink of becoming a farce of sorts. Over a week & a bit into July, whence we were promised details of pricing, and nothing but a deafening silence. In the meantime (coincidentally in the same first week & a bit of July), bitmain has upped the price of its flagship cash-cow twice to an eye-watering $399.

If ever there was a time for the SF100 to hit the shelves (is it actually real ..?) , it has to be now. Unless ofcourse it can not be priced competitively (in which case, just tell us!).

Aaaaand... upped again. $439 now. They were well profiting at $320 and raised $120 for no reason other than that they are able to, because of current market monopoly conditions. This wont last long, and the community will most likely remember everything. I know I will remember how bitmain didn't want to help me with invoice because of "moral standards" yet they don't care to mine with their client's equipments. I am glad the new players already told me they are willing to help me with invoice price. My money will all be going to them.

I think you went into wrong thread

. This is Sfards.... we still don't know price at release. There have been rumors but nothing official.

The thread your looking for is a few down

He made a bitmain post related to mining market which is directly related sfards. I replied to it with more information regarding mining market. I don't even understand how someone could fail to see that.
I will just go with the obvious conclusion you are just posting due to signature campaign

Anyway, lets go on with the thread's main subject

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Quote from: J4bberwock on July 01, 2015, 11:56:14 AM

I don't know for the G black (still haven't got one in hands), but the heatsinks on the G blade are designed to dissipate something like 200 watts.
From what I can remember, my first fully overclocked G-Blade was drawing 350-400w.

With SF3301, 200 watts would be 5-6 chips hashing at a total of 400-500GH SHA, and 10-16MH scrypt on each PCB.
The number of chips on board is probably not high enough to make it economically interesting for the end user, but it can be done.

My dev board is 150x100mm

How about 8 chips, running at .6 volt 450 Mhz (BTC about 570 GH/s) .8v 450Mhz (LTC bit over 9 MH/s) option? Should be easy to fit on a 4"x8" PCB (perhaps a bit of overhang on one end to fit taller caps if needed kinda like the original GBlade boards), and the common clock in theory should make the board design a bit simpler and less expensive? Might be better to have non-common clocks kick the LTC side up to the .9v 700Mhz (15ish MH/s) option.

Current pricing on the SF3301 chips might make this a bit hard to keep to a reasonable price though - $300 or so would be competative with anything currently available IF doable but the SF3301s alone would be $240ish....

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Quote from: chalkboard17 on July 12, 2015, 01:30:38 AM

Quote from: pekatete on July 10, 2015, 12:13:46 PM

This is on the brink of becoming a farce of sorts. Over a week & a bit into July, whence we were promised details of pricing, and nothing but a deafening silence. In the meantime (coincidentally in the same first week & a bit of July), bitmain has upped the price of its flagship cash-cow twice to an eye-watering $399.

If ever there was a time for the SF100 to hit the shelves (is it actually real ..?) , it has to be now. Unless ofcourse it can not be priced competitively (in which case, just tell us!).

Aaaaand... upped again. $439 now. They were well profiting at $320 and raised $120 for no reason other than that they are able to, because of current market monopoly conditions. This wont last long, and the community will most likely remember everything. I know I will remember how bitmain didn't want to help me with invoice because of "moral standards" yet they don't care to mine with their client's equipments. I am glad the new players already told me they are willing to help me with invoice price. My money will all be going to them.

I think you went into wrong thread

. This is Sfards.... we still don't know price at release. There have been rumors but nothing official.

The thread your looking for is a few down

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Quote from: pekatete on July 10, 2015, 12:13:46 PM

This is on the brink of becoming a farce of sorts. Over a week & a bit into July, whence we were promised details of pricing, and nothing but a deafening silence. In the meantime (coincidentally in the same first week & a bit of July), bitmain has upped the price of its flagship cash-cow twice to an eye-watering $399.

If ever there was a time for the SF100 to hit the shelves (is it actually real ..?) , it has to be now. Unless ofcourse it can not be priced competitively (in which case, just tell us!).

Aaaaand... upped again. $439 now. They were well profiting at $320 and raised $120 for no reason other than that they are able to, because of current market monopoly conditions. This wont last long, and the community will most likely remember everything. I know I will remember how bitmain didn't want to help me with invoice because of "moral standards" yet they don't care to mine with their client's equipments. I am glad the new players already told me they are willing to help me with invoice price. My money will all be going to them.

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Quote from: J4bberwock on July 10, 2015, 01:46:31 PM

Don't message me about price, delay or anything, but here is something that may be available sometime in august:

Nice! Great to see someone working on a product. Thank you.

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Quote from: mavericklm on July 10, 2015, 11:57:16 PM

i see no future for pocket miners Undecided

You can combine them is what I think some will do. I mean they built racks to hold rows and rows of gridseed pods.

I am hoping or a big miner. But I would happily take a decent priced miner and use a row of them. All comes down to price.

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i see no future for pocket miners Undecided

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Quote from: J4bberwock on July 10, 2015, 01:46:31 PM

Don't message me about price, delay or anything, but here is something that may be available sometime in august:

Looking forward to unplugging my first gen Gridseeds and plugging these in! Assuming that they're also 12 volts, of course.

Very interested!

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Quote from: J4bberwock on July 10, 2015, 01:46:31 PM

Don't message me about price, delay or anything, but here is something that may be available sometime in august:

This has to be the best thing I have seen posted in this thread so far.

Good luck!

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Quote from: philipma1957 on July 10, 2015, 03:47:37 PM

Quote from: J4bberwock on July 10, 2015, 03:44:48 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on July 10, 2015, 03:35:16 PM

Quote from: J4bberwock on July 10, 2015, 01:46:31 PM

Don't message me about price, delay or anything, but here is something that may be available sometime in august:

Can I pm you for specs?

would love to know what the gear can do.

It's not fully working yet.
Because it's BGA (you can't unsolder them and use them again), new chips are needed for more testing on another board. They should be delivered on monday.
It'll be on the high side of the specs for LTC (max hashrate) and low side for BTC (best efficiency).

thanks for the update

Yes, appreciated and interested.

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Quote from: J4bberwock on July 10, 2015, 03:44:48 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on July 10, 2015, 03:35:16 PM

Quote from: J4bberwock on July 10, 2015, 01:46:31 PM

Don't message me about price, delay or anything, but here is something that may be available sometime in august:

Can I pm you for specs?

would love to know what the gear can do.

It's not fully working yet.
Because it's BGA (you can't unsolder them and use them again), new chips are needed for more testing on another board. They should be delivered on monday.
It'll be on the high side of the specs for LTC (max hashrate) and low side for BTC (best efficiency).

thanks for the update

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Quote from: philipma1957 on July 10, 2015, 03:35:16 PM

Quote from: J4bberwock on July 10, 2015, 01:46:31 PM

Don't message me about price, delay or anything, but here is something that may be available sometime in august:

Can I pm you for specs?

would love to know what the gear can do.

It's not fully working yet.
Because it's BGA (you can't unsolder them and use them again), new chips are needed for more testing on another board. They should be delivered on monday.
It'll be on the high side of the specs for LTC (max hashrate) and low side for BTC (best efficiency).

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Quote from: J4bberwock on July 10, 2015, 01:46:31 PM

Don't message me about price, delay or anything, but here is something that may be available sometime in august:

Beauty, I suppose it's only scrypt mode

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Quote from: J4bberwock on July 10, 2015, 01:46:31 PM

Don't message me about price, delay or anything, but here is something that may be available sometime in august:

Can I pm you for specs?

would love to know what the gear can do.

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Interesting http://cointelegraph.com/news/114809/chinese-pump-n-dump-suspected-as-litecoin-passes-bitcoin-in-trading-volume

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