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Topic: [ANN] Sfards:SF100, the first 28nm Dual-Mode Miner is accepting pre-order now - page 32. (Read 129801 times)

legendary
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The hard part to justify it is all the zeus/hashra/etc gear that is out there.  Even though it's horribly inefficient people still run them.   

I do not think the price should be to much over what you can buy an 30mh A2 and a SP20.   I agree some over it.   But 1200 would be very very high.   I really want this and will admit I would overspend to get one to play with, but I cant justify 1200 no matter how hard i try.

I hope the rumor is wrong on price.
copper member
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Clueless!
4.5btc for this hardware?! thats fucking ridiculous! my gosh why are people paying for this shit?!

again imho this device is just out there in 100 buck lots to 'wave the flag' on the chips and they have a miner

the chips are mostly gonna be used for their 'at cost' data hall imho or bulk sales of chips to others with same data hall ideas imho in china

if they manage to move a few of these units to some foolish folk no issues....they show an actual product

much easier to move them bulk chips imho showing any kind of product ..then just saying "Hey I got bulk chips that do such and such"

SFARDS never was serious about the equipment imho it was just a gimmick to move their chips and such as again imho think was their main

focus their 'I'm sure soon to be announced" soon DATA HALL using such chips and the call for big IPO $$$ of such in such it is what the

chip makers do now (spondoolies, knc, etc)

anyway how I see their logic
legendary
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4.5btc for this hardware?! thats fucking ridiculous! my gosh why are people paying for this shit?!
legendary
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dogiecoin.com
"expected to start shipping next week" (weibo).  Could just not have listed stock yet - keep an eye on it (as I know you will) Smiley

[Speculation] Was probably a tiny batch using test chips, so now a small gap until proper chip batches come through.
hero member
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FUN > ROI
"expected to start shipping next week" (weibo).  Could just not have listed stock yet - keep an eye on it (as I know you will) Smiley
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
So did they sell out or what?

 how much is 8000 RMB in USD?   1288.72 usd?


legendary
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Christian Antkow
i usually wait 1 year to buy new top phone, not because i can't afford launch price but because i hate to overpay for new toys
But then it's no longer a new top phone...
hero member
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I'm like the guys who are paying a premium and sleeping next to the front door to get the latest Nintenstation 6 at midnight the day it's released Grin
i usually wait 1 year to buy new top phone, not because i can't afford launch price but because i hate to overpay for new toys
sr. member
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I'm like the guys who are paying a premium and sleeping next to the front door to get the latest Nintenstation 6 at midnight the day it's released Grin

Never had you down as one of.....those. Oh dear  Wink Cheesy
hero member
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So Sfards raised the price an extra 90$ and made an MOQ of 3 and max of 10, sounds like they have no damn clue on what they want to do. MOQ of 3 and Max of 10 is a really dumb thing and especially at this price point. Lets just hope they don't try and take preorders.

I don't believe they will do preorder. If they are starting selling a few units from stock, they are most likely the first units produced, and I hope they'll sell from larger batches soon.

Regarding the price, for any miner from any manufacturer, I'd prefer to pay 3*1290$ instead of 10*1200$ to evaluate the product.
And even if i was 1*1400$, I'd still buy just one to play with it.

BTW free sample for review would be even better, even if my stupid greedy country will charge me 20% on the value of the "free sample" including shipping cost.
Totally off topic, I even had to pay 20% import taxes on a few of my own breakout boards returned with small defects by a customer.

Back on topic.
I'm not speaking of ROI, I just want one to do the following in no particular order:
-play with it
-try to improve it
-see how it likes over/undervolting
-stress it
-break it
-fix it...

I'm like the guys who are paying a premium and sleeping next to the front door to get the latest Nintenstation 6 at midnight the day it's released Grin
legendary
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Merit: 1000
Its only the sample orders that can be ordered as max 10 pcs and min. 3.
when bulk ordering its much higher numbers.
sr. member
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I contacted Sfards some time ago regarding p2pool compatibility & pricing, they seemed very keen at the time to test their hardware out with p2pool & asked me for more info & a node to test with, which I duly provided them. However, since then they have been completely silent. I've just emailed them again in the hope they can clarify things, but the pricing is so high that I doubt they will ever be competative even if their hardware does work with p2pool.

I notice it uses a fork of Pooler's cpuminer via USB & raspberry pi - which is interesting though.
hero member
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Are you planning Breakout boards for these as well ?

I'm currently checking how to make a batch of the 2 chips miner.

And maybe if I can find more than 24h in a day and more than 7 days in a week, I'll have a look at an 8-10 chips board, but it's unlikely for now.
hero member
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FUN > ROI
There's always the potentially shady listings on AE Smiley
legendary
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I ordered 3 samples today, so I guess not completely.
legendary
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Are you planning Breakout boards for these as well ?
hero member
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Price is already released. 1.290,- $ each
let's see how much they can sell at that unrealistic price

I'll get at least one to play with, as I try to do with most of the miners.
hero member
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Price is already released. 1.290,- $ each
let's see how much they can sell at that unrealistic price
hero member
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Merit: 500
Thanks for the info. For an MOQ of 3 is not bad at all, but at that price (and to a big buyer) it is ridiculous. I'll keep an eye out on what you may garner from them, but I am starting to seriously think of giving up on waiting on these.
legendary
Activity: 938
Merit: 1000
No official links. They contacted me directly since im running a bigger farm and looking for a new supply of BTC miners and either it haves to be the Bitmain S7 or the Sfard, but communication wise they halt big time.
Ihave asked for price based on 200TH+ orders but no response.
I told them as well that the price makes it not worth it for a farm like ours even though we have a relatively low KW price. Told them that it was ok that the price for trials was higher but not when we start to make larger orders....No response!
Next step is to make a deal with Avalon or Spondoolies, if we do not get any response from them.
We are not interested in the scrypt part, since we are running a 4k Mhash scrypt already and those 47Mhash pr miner does not count in the big picture.
I will post further info if we get any response from them.
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