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how many SIGT for masternode Huh
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there was no better time than this to buy Signatum
Devs are working like crazy on this and as soon as they reach next step in their roadmap, price of SIGT will go 10x up, or even more.
Same happened to etherum in the beginning, and many told it is a shit coin, now all of those ppl are mining it.

Signatum is the new and faster version of Etherum!

Please dont go Full Retard.

All SIGT got is Marketplace while Ethereum got Smart Contract.

Smart contract means everything from Assets, Marketplace, ICO and almost anything you can think of
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got all my sigt from craptopia....I'll never make the mistake of dealing there again.

Bought some more sigt.....just wanted to say thanks to craptopia and all the other ignorant people who provided me a great price.

My wallet working great....about 3 second tx time....

Hopefully, more fools will sell so I can get more sigt cheap.
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Why dont you stfu with your bullshiting about sigt? Nobody who believes in the coin cares about you or your craptopia friends...every Day something else you bullshit about. Where is your fork from yesterday?

It appears that the hundreds of ORPHANS were probably caused by your DEV. "By blocking false TXs on the core nodes".

That is WORSE than a fork - it means that the network can be controlled, altered and manipulated by just one person.

Just change the code on the CORE nodes. Move all coin to one wallet and sell it before anyone finds out !

The CENTRALISED network is controlled by one person according to this post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.22000225



My faith in human intelligence is restoring!
Exactly my thoughts.

BTW, devs stop make people think it is magic what you do;

I just looked into github, and voila;
https://github.com/signatumd/source/commit/c60bad55be253d48e66031c3cd0928c196098289
I can put 1 SIGT on the table that those magic Doc's "fixes" are just adding checkpoints to wallet code, recompile and put new code on your "core nodes".
You don't even say: "People, update your wallets (Windows/Linux)" but leave all in your hands.
That is not transparent move, at all.
That allows you to control which fork, in your and only your opinion is good, centrally and in secret. That is nothing more than manipulation on blockchain.



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there was no better time than this to buy Signatum
Devs are working like crazy on this and as soon as they reach next step in their roadmap, price of SIGT will go 10x up, or even more.
Same happened to etherum in the beginning, and many told it is a shit coin, now all of those ppl are mining it.

Signatum is the new and faster version of Etherum!

Wait... what? Since when Signatum has smart contracts?

P.S. It's spelled "etherEum"
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there was no better time than this to buy Signatum
Devs are working like crazy on this and as soon as they reach next step in their roadmap, price of SIGT will go 10x up, or even more.
Same happened to etherum in the beginning, and many told it is a shit coin, now all of those ppl are mining it.

Signatum is the new and faster version of Etherum!
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฿ear ride on the rainbow slide
Why dont you stfu with your bullshiting about sigt? Nobody who believes in the coin cares about you or your craptopia friends...every Day something else you bullshit about. Where is your fork from yesterday?

It appears that the hundreds of ORPHANS were probably caused by your DEV. "By blocking false TXs on the core nodes".

That is WORSE than a fork - it means that the network can be controlled, altered and manipulated by just one person.

Just change the code on the CORE nodes. Move all coin to one wallet and sell it before anyone finds out !

The CENTRALISED network is controlled by one person according to this post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.22000225

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it looks like balances  mostly moved out of cryptopia. Yesterday biggest wallet  of Cryptopia was holding ~15% of total SIGT  funds, it is not a case now http://explorer.signatum.download/richlist

Well, it is a good news as cryptopia issue dragged too long and causing the price of signatum sunk. Hope signatum will have a great success with 2 new exchangers.
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This coin will survive when craptopia sh** will get over and when paid craptopia labourers will close their mouth full of lies.

This is still a very good coin, no remorse.
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I really hate to say it but I agree, once mining is over the coin will most likely be done. The mining algorithm is the best thing that came from this coin. It's too bad mining will end soon. I hope another coin will pick up the algo so us Nvidia guys have something that mine efficiently.

I wonder if Signatum could be a bit of a testbed for Ethereum when it switches over to PoS next year as a coin that winds down from PoW to a PoS transition. SIGT could be like the guinea pig Tongue
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it looks like balances  mostly moved out of cryptopia. Yesterday biggest wallet  of Cryptopia was holding ~15% of total SIGT  funds, it is not a case now http://explorer.signatum.download/richlist
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Everything is back to normal . Doc is awesome Smiley

Buy Some Sigts when price is low .. Smiley
ohh boy this is really sad, sigt is at highest point it will ever get again Shocked Roll Eyes
kissas

The fuders and trolls are of abundance in this thread.

Yup, they are working double time. If you were in SIGT discord earlier, they were coordinated in spreading lies of fork. There was no fork. It was an attack on the SIGT blockchain that Doc quickly fought off.  Unfortunately for them, SIGT priced didn't fall. When Doc was about finish in fighting off the attack, we immediately saw someone bought a bunch of SIGTs.  These fudders are smelling opportunity by fudding SIGT.

I see paper will take anything. Internet forums too :-)

Attack on the blockchain?
Doc defending the poor from bad Cryptopia.
Big FUDders on 5BTC volume crapcoin.

You live in a dream world or too many conspiracy books? :-)



The technical apsects of what happened was already posted earlier. For folkls who are not technically knowledgeable on details of blockcahin or computer technology, we have to explain in a matter they would understand or for things to make sense, hence the words used. Nowhere did I mention that Cryptopia was involved in the attack. Doc fixed things or reconfigured the nodes.

SIGT has a potential to go back to hundreds of BTC in trading volume. Fudders knows this. It does not make sense to fud established coins like Monero, Etherium, etc., right?  So they fud small cap coins where the potential for gain is huge. Of course, now the volume of SIGT maybe low, that's because most coins were stuck in cryptopia. SIGTs trading volume potential can be hundreds of BTC based on its peak.

I live in the real world where those in power are the rich,  politicians, business men and military leaders. This are men and women to whom techies adept in technology have to explain in simple terms computer technology that comes their way that they need to decide on. Unfortunately, techies expert in the blockchain technology don't carry much weight in the real world. How about you? Do you live in the online world or the real world? :-)
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You know what would solve Cryptopia's problem? To make the logo bigger!  and the background photo.  More dropshadow, too.
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What did they lie about? Well I thought I explained that but.... so when I send an inquiry asking what's going on I get a canned response that everyone gets. "Nothing wrong, wallet maintenance" (to sum up response). Week goes by ask again because I would like to withdraw my coins. Ask again get same answer, when they know that's not the truth. I respond by saying I know more is going on then routine maintenance please tell us the truth. Get basically same response saying nothing is wrong wallet will be back up. They do this for a month. Not answering a question honestly and hiding what is going on, regardless of the severity of the issue, is the same as lying.

I work in an unrelated tech industry (electronic automation). Sometimes you think you know what the problem is - and it appears to work until it turns to shit.
Clients are breathing down your neck asking for a fix time frame. If you give them a short time frame they hold you to it. If you give them a long time frame they throw a tantrum.  I am personally always hesitant to give a time frame. I sometimes rely on others and some problems are just complex to solve.

Until it is fixed you don't always know when you have a working solution. Until it is fixed you don't have a reliable diagnosis.

What else was there to say ?

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Say you try to withdraw funds from an ATM and you can't because an error pops up on the screen. You speak with an employee who tells you they are fixing some account issues and you'll be able to withdraw real soon. Few days go by and you still can't withdraw and your getting the same response. What if now a month goes by and you still can't withdraw and your still being told the same thing.... get the picture? I'm sure you would be very unhappy with that bank. You would probably remove your money and take it to another bank.

The analogy is not quite the same. It would be like the ATM jamming up and the customers complaining - but the notes that it is dispensing are too big for the dispensing cassette (a dispensing cassette by the note supplier)- then talking to the supplier of the notes and them doing nothing other than "having a look" - then out of frustration you pull a whole lot of your staff from other projects to cut each note by hand so it fits and then getting rid of the note supplier and no longer providing that service.

....and that doesn't even cover the users that were mining to their exchange accounts despite a warning not to do so on the wallet.

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I'm not saying cryptopia is completely to blame, but by hiding what was going on at their end and not taking an ounce of responsibility for it, they have a hand in this whole mess.

Other than having overworked support staff - I don't see how they could have done more. Polo also had a coin stuck for more than month with SIA - so did Yobit

I had numerous issues during this time and all my support tickets got answered promptly.

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I have a business I own (really I do, this isn't an example) If my customers think I'm being dishonest or hiding something I will lose them as customers and my reputation will falter. So no matter how small an issue is, I inform them. I don't stall, or give them lip service. I put it out there as soon as I know. It stops a lot of pointless repeated questions I have to answer and let's them know I care about them by not hiding anything. They appreciate this stay loyal because of it.

I communicate with customers too. I also have had a customer that has screamed abuse at me for something that was mostly their fault.
They thought that screaming and making accusations would get the problem solved faster.
Yes- I solved the problem. They are no longer my customer and now have to pay someone from out of town at a much higher cost to do the work i used to do for them. They accounted for one third of my turnover. I have better customers now.

This is how the SIGT DEV communicates to his customers : https://www.reddit.com/r/Signatum/comments/6tz3ro/what_happened_with_signatum_official_dev_doc/

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Cryptopia really screwed up when they blamed the community for the issues when they were also part of the problem. They aren't as blameless as they want to believe.


Only the SIGT community sees it this way. If you have a lynch mob that is being encouraged by their "officials" then there is not a lot more communication worth doing. I have saved some of the screenshots of the abuse that was posted and later deleted.

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Let me give a good example of some other dishonest stuff they've done that effected me. I hold a lot of bitcore. We get 3% drops every Monday based on our holdings. I had made some trades and was gonna send back to desktop wallet when they put wallet into maintenance mode stopping withdraws. Funny they did this afternoon before 3% drop. So few days later we can withdraw which I do. Next week notice same thing. Afternoon of drop wallet goes offline for "maintenance" again. Funny how this keeps happening right before drops. This has happened quite a bit until people caught on and complained. Seems they were holding all our BTX to collect the 3% drops and reaping nice profit.

Perhaps the volume of withdrawals on that day was putting pressure on the hot wallet. Most crypto is kept in cold wallets for security reasons. I'm quite sure that they don't stake exchange wallets.  It would be quite easy to prove or disprove on the blockchain.

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Oh and why on earth would anyone have to fake a support ticket for the issues? There was plenty to ask about. And I read their news feed which prompted me to write this to begin with. Their "we are completely blameless, it's everyone else's fault" open letter. They could have posted it 3 weeks earlier explaining wallet issues but I guess that would require honesty and a spine.

I have some screenshots of the photoshoped support tickets posted on various sites. I'm not going to post them on here but happy to PM them to you if you don't believe it.

I have found the 'topia devs to be quite straight forward. There was another issue that I dealt with them about and and they stated quite plainly that they "fucked up" and they put it right.

I have spoken to them about the SIGT problems and they are quite confident that the blame lies with the wallet code.
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Parachute for sale. Used once. Small red stain.
look cryptopia has delisted 5 coins lately due to wallet issues so its not just sigt thats the issue.

They were a small exchange that grew larger quickly and they themselves seem to have scaling issues and problems.

Yes- they grew very fast over the last four months and that would have made responding to thousands of angry and impatient customers difficult. When I spoke to some of the admins they said that their support staff had received hundreds of abusive support tickets so were on edge. These are people with feelings. Sending abuse to support staff aint't going to hurry things up. I've been called all sorts of things by SIGT community for just trying to rationally explain things. I don't even work for 'topia so i can imagine how their support staff feel.

Support staff need to focus on issues that they can do something about - there are more customers than just those that have their coin stuck.

I know that they work closely with a very large IT company (in the same building) so scaling is not an issue. I also know the main developers of the site have a lot of experience working on large scale projects from their previous jobs. I doubt that scaling of their website played a part in it.

They tried to sync the wallets but after a week they would stop syncing. When a wallet isn't made for enterprise size transactions it takes a long time to sync.

I think they explained it quite well here: https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/News

They even said in their letter that sigt dev was at their building trying to help and checking in, then in the same breath blammed everyone, even the community on the reason for the delisting.

Other than the visit to the offices to look there was no assistance that I know of that the SIGT team provided. (I don't know everything because I have only spoken to them about it)

Why is there no info about it on the signatum.io website ? If the coin DEVs were involved why didn't they communicate to their community ?

They took absolutely no blame for anything and threw it off on everyone else. For a month they had issues with the wallet and when anyone asked what was going on they said nothing, just a syncing issue, will be back online soon. Maybe they should have been truthful and trasnparent about the issues and the community wouldnt have been pissed off.

It was syncing and then after syncing for a week it became corrupted.  
While it is syncing there is not a lot you can do other than wait. It was explained on the wallet what was happening - not quite sure what more they could have said.
I would imagine that IF I was a DEV for a coin - I would have been liaising with the company and informing the community. How much info did the SIGT team provide ?
It is up to the coin DEV to fix a wallet. If Cryptopia modifies the wallet and the coins are lost then they become liable.

They cant go around laying blame on everyone when they had a hand in the problem. No of us told them to lie to the people who keep them afloat by trading on their site, they did that all on their own.
What did they lie about ?

And like most retailers, exhanges, business, etc that get cocky and think they are above everyone, they will feel it in their net losses when people choose to trade somewhere else. Maybe this will be a lesson they need to learn about communicating with the people who help pay their salaries and bills.

This is where you are so mistaken. Cryptopia isn't all about profit. It is a team of people that are really passionate about Crypto. They are all about building a secure trading platform and are very risk adverse. I doubt that they see a drop in profits as an issue if it makes their exchange more secure and trouble free. Not everyone is driven by greed. Cryptopia was the only exchange to drop ETH after the DAO hack - that would have cost them - it was only after long discussions that it was re-listed.

As a client I have built up a good rapport with them and they (and some of the other clients) have taught me so much about crypto, how to avoid scams, how to watch out for pumps and dumps and how an exchange works. There is also a core group of loyal customers from when the exchange was tiny - that are upset with the SIGT community for slagging off at their exchange,  faking support tickets and spreading lies.


What did they lie about? Well I thought I explained that but.... so when I send an inquiry asking what's going on I get a canned response that everyone gets. "Nothing wrong, wallet maintenance" (to sum up response). Week goes by ask again because I would like to withdraw my coins. Ask again get same answer, when they know that's not the truth. I respond by saying I know more is going on then routine maintenance please tell us the truth. Get basically same response saying nothing is wrong wallet will be back up. They do this for a month. Not answering a question honestly and hiding what is going on, regardless of the severity of the issue, is the same as lying.

Say you try to withdraw funds from an ATM and you can't because an error pops up on the screen. You speak with an employee who tells you they are fixing some account issues and you'll be able to withdraw real soon. Few days go by and you still can't withdraw and your getting the same response. What if now a month goes by and you still can't withdraw and your still being told the same thing.... get the picture? I'm sure you would be very unhappy with that bank. You would probably remove your money and take it to another bank.

I'm not saying cryptopia is completely to blame, but by hiding what was going on at their end and not taking an ounce of responsibility for it, they have a hand in this whole mess.

I have a business I own (really I do, this isn't an example) If my customers think I'm being dishonest or hiding something I will lose them as customers and my reputation will falter. So no matter how small an issue is, I inform them. I don't stall, or give them lip service. I put it out there as soon as I know. It stops a lot of pointless repeated questions I have to answer and let's them know I care about them by not hiding anything. They appreciate this stay loyal because of it.

Cryptopia really screwed up when they blamed the community for the issues when they were also part of the problem. They aren't as blameless as they want to believe.

Let me give a good example of some other dishonest stuff they've done that effected me. I hold a lot of bitcore. We get 3% drops every Monday based on our holdings. I had made some trades and was gonna send back to desktop wallet when they put wallet into maintenance mode stopping withdraws. Funny they did this afternoon before 3% drop. So few days later we can withdraw which I do. Next week notice same thing. Afternoon of drop wallet goes offline for "maintenance" again. Funny how this keeps happening right before drops. This has happened quite a bit until people caught on and complained. Seems they were holding all our BTX to collect the 3% drops and reaping nice profit.

Oh and why on earth would anyone have to fake a support ticket for the issues? There was plenty to ask about. And I read their news feed which prompted me to write this to begin with. Their "we are completely blameless, it's everyone else's fault" open letter. They could have posted it 3 weeks earlier explaining wallet issues but I guess that would require honesty and a spine.
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When someone discovers a problem and does not talk, they are as guilty as those who committed involuntary or not. They profited for 30 days "trying to solve". I think you have to stop the mi mi mi. Nothing will explain the profit they had on the backs of the unsuspecting. Those who buy and sell deserve more consideration.

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I really hate to say it but I agree, once mining is over the coin will most likely be done. The mining algorithm is the best thing that came from this coin. It's too bad mining will end soon. I hope another coin will pick up the algo so us Nvidia guys have something that mine efficiently.
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Deposits are apparently still not enabled.



They are delisting the coin due to massive wallet problems  - why would expect them to accept new deposits ?

It is a bit like people mining to their exchange wallet despite warnings not to and it being against the T&Cs.

People mining to the exchange wallets contributed to the current problems.


THIS COIN WILL EXPLODE ON POS


This coin will be a sh*t coin very soon. There is lots of good projects like this , signatum will worth nothing after mining ends.
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Deposits are apparently still not enabled.



They are delisting the coin due to massive wallet problems  - why would expect them to accept new deposits ?

It is a bit like people mining to their exchange wallet despite warnings not to and it being against the T&Cs.

People mining to the exchange wallets contributed to the current problems.


THIS COIN WILL EXPLODE ON POS
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฿ear ride on the rainbow slide
Deposits are apparently still not enabled.



They are delisting the coin due to massive wallet problems  - why would expect them to accept new deposits ?

It is a bit like people mining to their exchange wallet despite warnings not to and it being against the T&Cs.

People mining to the exchange wallets contributed to the current problems.
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