Topic: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs - page 502. (Read 1260354 times)

no way will they refund all imho....1) they probably don't have the $$$ 2) at the price of btc vs the mining of say less then 6th at 2600 watts ie say it is 5th at 2600 watts now...well
that would make little sense if you could get a refund and just buy more BTC at the 620 price say

this probably has already been discarded..but if it is heat/chips less then expected..you ship 2 boxes ie using the larger more space more fans sp30 current box.....1 main board 1 power supply each box more room bigger fans..etc...heat problem lessened..and get as close to 6TH as you can pull out of this mess at what 1300 watts a box or so...

give folks a choice of keep 1 box or get 2 boxes or use the 2nd box for something further down the line from spondoolies in the future or compensate that last box with $$$

ideally full refund to all that ask...but again that is not gonna happen

but poor performance chips (say only this 1st batch..hopefully) I'd just dump them in 2 boxes instead of 1 and out the door..maybe some 10% off future orders tossed in
anyway my expections are this last option if they plan to get the beasts out in their time line ...

of course this may have already been brought up and disregarded ie i missed the post...but seems to me a possible obvious fix if not ideal

Searing



Newbies will pre-order...but I agree...there will be less folks to do so in the future who have already mine'd ..this.. ..may make a difference not sure on this process

Searing

Criticism from those never had a chance to own an SP miner.

The ban on flights is being lifted (http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/24/us-mideast-gaza-idUSKBN0FT06I20140724).
About the performance issues, the SP30 is a leading-edge product, and as it attempts to raise the bar you expect to encounter some issues that needs to be resolved.  If it was so 'trivial' then the average Joe could design/build/sell these.
Rather than falling into 'despair' and 'criticism' one probably needs to give the engineers at SP Tech a chance to focus on the problems at hand and solve them.

Cheers

I hardly think they intended to give too high specs, but promising a very high hashrate and efficiency that then cannot be met obviously isn´t beneficial for them either.

I think once the product specs are confirmed (and in a competitive range) they will still be able to sell their coming batches, let alone chips.

Obviously, most of the profit on the sp30s should be gone (for sp) with compensation for lower hashrate and efficiency in order.


If they have managed to produce a good chip they will still be able to do additional bulk sales of those, and if the sp30 doesn´t turn out too horrible, those will surely sell aswell.

lol!  

Spondoolies said with supreme confidence - they would deliver on time and on spec.  Well, unless something doesn't go right that is.  joke.

I bought a $100,000 joke. Again.  There is no need to trust these guys.  Words are cheap.  Its the guy who sends the money that gets screwed every time.  Spondoolies will say anything.  

I actually believed it would be a Hamas missile that would ruin this deal.  Up to the very end, I didn't think it would be technical incompetence which would end up spoiling everything.  What a royal pig fuck.  Lies, lies, then more lies.


Seriously, we know what we're doing - we're fucking the customers with even more lies!!!

Yes Secretary of State but I heard today the air-liners lifted this just this morning
so everything back to normal...

From all your helpful advice that you are posting here, I take it you see that the HF chips are now increasing in value?

Why would you compare those two numbers? AM don't even produce consumer hardware.
If I recall correctly, at chip level AM Gen3 sim result was announced to be 0.35W/GH and actual performance was tested at 0.70W/GH (at the same clock speed).

Anyway, Guy is often making snide remarks about AM and the under spec. performance of Gen3, so hopefully the rockerbox won't underperform by that margin or he'll look a bit silly.

it is also good to point out that knc failed their customers big time after the jupiter delivery, a lot of promises were broken, refunds for btc took on average 2 months, for wire took 3 months, the hash while you wait was sabotaged by the free neptune, and so on. Definitely not as bad as BFL, BFL is the worst. They even sold used equipment to super jupiter customers.
knc has never sold from stock, they always sold pre orders.

As a lesson to be learned it is good to stay away from all pre orders, we should limit ourselves to only buy from stock not pre orders. 

S3 is 0.8 W/GH, with more accuracy it is 0.79 W/GH which is very good but not quite 0.7 W/GH the S4 may may that honor if they use lower voltage and more chips, it is possible it may do a lot better than that, if we take into consideration the proportions, the S1 was 2 W/GH, and the S2 using the same chips was about 1 W/GH almost 50% reductions which is impressive, so theoretical it would be possible to have an S4 at .4 W/GH but like the S2 I hope they do not ruin the BTC per hash ratio since the S2 was to expensive to ROI, it made the S1 the best seller, which it is now the S3.

the neptune does 0.7W/GH is is pretty bad since it is 20nm you would spec it to do better, and also the price per GH leaves a lot to be desire, and unlike the S3 which plays it on the safe side by having 4 pci-e connectors, the neptune has only one.

Oh don't start this again! Lol. It didn't work for the KNC Neptune cheerleaders either. I read some posts from clueless dudes thinking they were going to get 12THs Neptunes (two 6THs units). They sure got quiet fast when KNC started shipping. 

8TH, 800 watts. OMG !

Love the theory! He winds-up the masses and generates a lot of buzz. And then in 2 days comes back to say, "oh nevermind, we've managed to meet our estimates after quickly fixing some major issues." They'll be heroes in the community, if true.

Patience!

I think Guy is just winding you guys up ! After all, when he said


I was sure nothing could go wrong with the SP-30 pre-order.

Then, after this announcement


I was sure he had a good sense of humor !

Ok, we are all laughing now. Tell us it is a joke please and that the SP30 has actually EXCEEDED expectations.

I did test 0.7W/GH on an SP10 unit.


On my! What a stupid typo. Long day...

Hello 

Yes

Oh dear god! It's PH not TH. 30THs is just 5 (or 6) SP30s.

When people stop sending pre-order money then it will be dead. Until that time comes it will continue.

Yeah I know, had to clean them up, reflash in some cases. I found that "reboot" in ssh was doing weird things to, so reboot thru the gui and it improved also. Hands down SP10 is world class, real treat to walk into the DC with, I was not knocking SP shit is on the knifes edge with mining, just plain stupid to expect anything else.

I can agree 100% Pre-Order is dead, the plateau is on the horizon...