Let me get this straight then … you WILL NOT GUARANTEE that the SP30 will ROI ?
Will you guarantee 100% refunds if the SP30 doesn't ship when promised ?
Topic: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs - page 567. (Read 1260354 times)
June 14, 2014, 07:42:46 PM
June 14, 2014, 07:38:55 PM
The offer was for you not for opentoe. I am sure that he doesn't need my guarantees for this.
Well, if you are so sure the SP30 will ROI then why not guarantee it for everybody ?
The answer is because neither you nor anyone else can guarantee that it or any other machine currently on offer or pre-order will ROI.
To claim otherwise is fraudulent.
Because I don't have the finances to do it for everyone and I'm not speaking out of my ass like you do. If I say something I mean it and I always back it up with something. Promising it for anyone without having the money would mean that I would lie and I care about my integrity, not like you.
The guarantee isn't for ROI. It's only for shipping on time.
How many Neptunes you have on pre-order? Will you take a 0.5 BTC bet that no Neptune will ship this month?
June 14, 2014, 07:34:55 PM
The offer was for you not for opentoe. I am sure that he doesn't need my guarantees for this.
Well, if you are so sure the SP30 will ROI then why not guarantee it for everybody ?
The answer is because neither you nor anyone else can guarantee that it or any other machine currently on offer or pre-order will ROI.
To claim otherwise is fraudulent.
opentoe of course they will
June 14, 2014, 07:31:56 PM
I will brake my promise just for you since you said that you are a miner too. If you want to buy an SP30 I will guarantee it personally
There you go opentoe, RoadStress will 'brake' (sic) his promise and guarantee that if you order a SP30 it will ROI. I'll leave it up to you to negotiate the details of when it is guaranteed to ROI, and what compensation he will offer you if it doesn't.
The offer was for you not for opentoe. I am sure that he doesn't need my guarantees for this.
I don't think KnC will not ship any Neptune in August.
Double negative. Sounds like RoadStress is now agreeing that KNC with ship Neptune machines in August.
I have corrected that. It was a mistake. You haven't replied about the 0.5 BTC bet if KnC will ship any Neptune this month or not.
P.S. You can edit your posts you know. No need to post a new reply every time.
June 14, 2014, 07:28:25 PM
I don't think KnC will not ship any Neptune in August.
Double negative. Sounds like RoadStress is now agreeing that KNC with ship Neptune machines in August.
June 14, 2014, 07:25:02 PM
I will brake my promise just for you since you said that you are a miner too. If you want to buy an SP30 I will guarantee it personally
There you go opentoe, RoadStress will 'brake' (sic) his promise and guarantee that if you order a SP30 it will ROI. I'll leave it up to you to negotiate the details of when it is guaranteed to ROI, and what compensation he will offer you if it doesn't.
June 14, 2014, 07:17:05 PM
The only person shilling here RoadStress is you. Check the signatures for confirmation.
And if RoadStress is so sure that the SP30 will ROI, I'm sure he won't mind guaranteeing it personally. Right RoadStress ?
And if RoadStress is so sure that the SP30 will ROI, I'm sure he won't mind guaranteeing it personally. Right RoadStress ?
Being an affiliate for the best bitcoin mining company isn't actually shilling. It's called supporting the company while also giving back some to the community. As for guaranteeing I actually did it, but it was a one time offer and I got refused.
I would like to offer you a deal, but i want to make it only for you and it won't happen again and i don't want to have any influence for the rest of the group buy. I can offer to support your losses by fully repaying you in case of non-delivery in August. It's not much and it's only my word. I would get the scammer tag if i don't pay you and my reputation here will be over. You will need to agree it first and then after I post "I agree" it will be binding for me. I reserve the right to not agree it if there will be a lot of people that will complain that i'm trying to gather more units and if i feel that it's the wrong thing to do it, although until now this Group Buy is doing just fine.
I will brake my promise just for you since you said that you are a miner too. If you want to buy an SP30 I will guarantee it personally, but I know you won't.
Maybe I should ask it again but add "September". That's a whole month ahead of August and by that time I'm sure those KNC Neptune's will be out in swarms, which will put a pretty big dent in a September delivery. That is what I was thinking. Hey, that's what all miner's do, just sit and think and think and think. It is amazing how much just one month makes a difference in this "hobby".
My reply was aimed with September in mind. I don't think KnC will
You need to think faster because as the days pass you will be further along the queue line or who knows maybe they will sell out faster than we think!
June 14, 2014, 07:06:27 PM
Does everything think the SP30 will ROI?
Depends on how much hash everybody else ships in the same timeframe and the price of BTC.
I'd say if Spondoolies ship on time or ahead of schedule and KNC are delayed and don't ship the monster Neptune many think they will, maybe but maybe not. And if it does, it won't be huge. Right now dollars are chasing pennies in the mining business..
Go back to your KnC thread and shill there please.
opentoe of course they will. I expect KnC to be delayed until September and I don't expect AM to sell their 60PH until September either so things are looking very ok for us.
Maybe I should ask it again but add "September". That's a whole month ahead of August and by that time I'm sure those KNC Neptune's will be out in swarms, which will put a pretty big dent in a September delivery. That is what I was thinking. Hey, that's what all miner's do, just sit and think and think and think. It is amazing how much just one month makes a difference in this "hobby".
June 14, 2014, 06:39:43 PM
Does everything think the SP30 will ROI?
Depends on how much hash everybody else ships in the same timeframe and the price of BTC.
I'd say if Spondoolies ship on time or ahead of schedule and KNC are delayed and don't ship the monster Neptune many think they will, maybe but maybe not. And if it does, it won't be huge. Right now dollars are chasing pennies in the mining business..
June 14, 2014, 06:28:46 PM
No intention to spread fud as Spondoolies delivers hq hardware and has the best customer support I'm aware of.
They were very fast with shipping in the past, so I was a little confused about the fact that some miners will be shipped more than one week after this date. If it has been communicated clearly, ok fine, I missed that part - sorry and thanks for pointing out.
They were very fast with shipping in the past, so I was a little confused about the fact that some miners will be shipped more than one week after this date. If it has been communicated clearly, ok fine, I missed that part - sorry and thanks for pointing out.
All "immediate shipping" paid miners were shipped.
We've started to ship "Mid June" batch and will do so continuously until the end of the month.
No delays.
Do you guys ever take a breath? Wow... that is good news... hope to hear the August call for SP30s in the same clear voice. NO DELAYS!
i don't doubt it. just hope *someone* doesn't burn out the power sockets by testing too many at once!
June 14, 2014, 05:01:51 PM
No intention to spread fud as Spondoolies delivers hq hardware and has the best customer support I'm aware of.
They were very fast with shipping in the past, so I was a little confused about the fact that some miners will be shipped more than one week after this date. If it has been communicated clearly, ok fine, I missed that part - sorry and thanks for pointing out.
They were very fast with shipping in the past, so I was a little confused about the fact that some miners will be shipped more than one week after this date. If it has been communicated clearly, ok fine, I missed that part - sorry and thanks for pointing out.
All "immediate shipping" paid miners were shipped.
We've started to ship "Mid June" batch and will do so continuously until the end of the month.
No delays.
Do you guys ever take a breath? Wow... that is good news... hope to hear the August call for SP30s in the same clear voice. NO DELAYS!
June 14, 2014, 04:53:54 PM
No intention to spread fud as Spondoolies delivers hq hardware and has the best customer support I'm aware of.
They were very fast with shipping in the past, so I was a little confused about the fact that some miners will be shipped more than one week after this date. If it has been communicated clearly, ok fine, I missed that part - sorry and thanks for pointing out.
They were very fast with shipping in the past, so I was a little confused about the fact that some miners will be shipped more than one week after this date. If it has been communicated clearly, ok fine, I missed that part - sorry and thanks for pointing out.
All "immediate shipping" paid miners were shipped.
We've started to ship "Mid June" batch and will do so continuously until the end of the month.
No delays.
June 14, 2014, 04:48:53 PM
Thank you Kuma,
I will ssh in to do this if I am correct. There used to be a box to do this in the settings page. I hope Zvi puts that back in later on. ssh is a pain in the butt.
Thanks again I appreciate it.
I am not expert on the cgminer config files, I know you can set w:0/0 to enable total remote access to miner from any station. Maybe someone here can guide you to a more secure configuration.
It's important for minepeon to have access from local station (127.0.0.1).
If you need to change settings through API (for example switching pools etc.), you should set W:127.0.0.1,W:. If you need just to read values from API use W:127.0.0.1,R or W:127.0.0.1,R:0/0 (for enabling non privileged - read access from all IP addresses).
I will ssh in to do this if I am correct. There used to be a box to do this in the settings page. I hope Zvi puts that back in later on. ssh is a pain in the butt.
Thanks again I appreciate it.
Zvi, I was wondering how to allow API access so MultiMiner can see the miner on the network like it does the Antminers and such.
I have it setup as the default like this.
Thanks
You have to ssh to station and vi /etc/cgminer.confI have it setup as the default like this.
Quote
api-listen
True
api-allow
W:127.0.0.1
It is like something is missing to make it work. True
api-allow
W:127.0.0.1
Thanks
I am not expert on the cgminer config files, I know you can set w:0/0 to enable total remote access to miner from any station. Maybe someone here can guide you to a more secure configuration.
It's important for minepeon to have access from local station (127.0.0.1).
If you need to change settings through API (for example switching pools etc.), you should set W:127.0.0.1,W:
June 14, 2014, 04:18:39 PM
Zvi, I was wondering how to allow API access so MultiMiner can see the miner on the network like it does the Antminers and such.
I have it setup as the default like this.
Thanks
You have to ssh to station and vi /etc/cgminer.confI have it setup as the default like this.
Quote
api-listen
True
api-allow
W:127.0.0.1
It is like something is missing to make it work. True
api-allow
W:127.0.0.1
Thanks
I am not expert on the cgminer config files, I know you can set w:0/0 to enable total remote access to miner from any station. Maybe someone here can guide you to a more secure configuration.
It's important for minepeon to have access from local station (127.0.0.1).
If you need to change settings through API (for example switching pools etc.), you should set W:127.0.0.1,W:
June 14, 2014, 09:26:39 AM
Hi everyone;
I had an issue with the PSU (broke because of bad luck). Spondoolies replied to mail 5 mns after my request with : "give us your pool credentials".
Few hour later I had a SP10 configured in israel hashing for me. Thanks Spondoolies !
I now received my fresh new PSU and everything is back to normal. Thanks Spondoolies !
Firmware 1.4.3 is awesome, 1.5+TH/s with 1%-0.5% HW errors. Thanks Spondoolies !
If anyone read me and want to invest in a miner, I highly recommend SP-T. They are reliable, great after sales support and well... good at what they do.
@SP-Tech : Thank you again team, you have better after sales support than some of the biggest IT actor on the market.
I had an issue with the PSU (broke because of bad luck). Spondoolies replied to mail 5 mns after my request with : "give us your pool credentials".
Few hour later I had a SP10 configured in israel hashing for me. Thanks Spondoolies !
I now received my fresh new PSU and everything is back to normal. Thanks Spondoolies !
Firmware 1.4.3 is awesome, 1.5+TH/s with 1%-0.5% HW errors. Thanks Spondoolies !
If anyone read me and want to invest in a miner, I highly recommend SP-T. They are reliable, great after sales support and well... good at what they do.
@SP-Tech : Thank you again team, you have better after sales support than some of the biggest IT actor on the market.
Keep it up, Spondoolies! You guys built a great reputation in a short amount of time!
Guy gave me a 15% off future purchase because I was unhappy with the slower hashrate on 110v. This was before it was well known that the SP10 was current-limited on 110v. I figured Spondoolies has such a great rep, a future purchase would probably happen anyways, so I decided the 15% off future purchase was a fair compensation.
BTW, I lifted the cap and can confirm they can hash at 1.4 TH on 110v! (1260 W setting) Of course, the power draw at the wall is around 1440 W so I went back to the 1100 W limit (around 1200 W at the wall). At 1.4 TH, the wires were getting hot (120 C) - I only had 16 gauge wires. So can't do that...
Edit: Next unit (maybe after SP30s), please have noise level and US 110v customers in mind as well. ;-)
How did it even go to 1400Watts? The power supply in mine is only an 1100 watt power supply. Did they change or put more powerful power supplies in different SP10's?
June 14, 2014, 09:17:44 AM
Hi everyone;
I had an issue with the PSU (broke because of bad luck). Spondoolies replied to mail 5 mns after my request with : "give us your pool credentials".
Few hour later I had a SP10 configured in israel hashing for me. Thanks Spondoolies !
I now received my fresh new PSU and everything is back to normal. Thanks Spondoolies !
Firmware 1.4.3 is awesome, 1.5+TH/s with 1%-0.5% HW errors. Thanks Spondoolies !
If anyone read me and want to invest in a miner, I highly recommend SP-T. They are reliable, great after sales support and well... good at what they do.
@SP-Tech : Thank you again team, you have better after sales support than some of the biggest IT actor on the market.
I had an issue with the PSU (broke because of bad luck). Spondoolies replied to mail 5 mns after my request with : "give us your pool credentials".
Few hour later I had a SP10 configured in israel hashing for me. Thanks Spondoolies !
I now received my fresh new PSU and everything is back to normal. Thanks Spondoolies !
Firmware 1.4.3 is awesome, 1.5+TH/s with 1%-0.5% HW errors. Thanks Spondoolies !
If anyone read me and want to invest in a miner, I highly recommend SP-T. They are reliable, great after sales support and well... good at what they do.
@SP-Tech : Thank you again team, you have better after sales support than some of the biggest IT actor on the market.
Keep it up, Spondoolies! You guys built a great reputation in a short amount of time!
Guy gave me a 15% off future purchase because I was unhappy with the slower hashrate on 110v. This was before it was well known that the SP10 was current-limited on 110v. I figured Spondoolies has such a great rep, a future purchase would probably happen anyways, so I decided the 15% off future purchase was a fair compensation.
BTW, I lifted the cap and can confirm they can hash at 1.4 TH on 110v! (1260 W setting) Of course, the power draw at the wall is around 1440 W so I went back to the 1100 W limit (around 1200 W at the wall). At 1.4 TH, the wires were getting hot (120 C) - I only had 16 gauge wires. So can't do that...
Edit: Next unit (maybe after SP30s), please have noise level and US 110v customers in mind as well. ;-)
%15 on all future? Is that just an offer for you? I'm on the fence about getting an SP30 (September) but since there are no refunds and bitcoin can go anywhere I'm a big chicken. Does everything think the SP30 will ROI? When I enter the numbers into that wisdom chart, it indicates with just todays numbers and an increasing diff will take over a year to ROI. I know we can't predict the difficulty, but at least we can agree it usually does always go up, right? And predicting bitcoin to USD, that's impossible. If I knew that one I'd already have a few orders of some SP30's.
June 14, 2014, 09:14:30 AM
... I assume the values on btcguild were lower because of bad luck ...
btcguild bad luck won't affect the hash rate you see. It will affect the payouts only.
BTC Guild's luck is horrible. That's the only reason I went with Ghash (this was months ago) and their luck really never recovered yet. As much as I pain to mine on the Ghash pool, I have to some times. And forget Eligius. I don't understand their payout system and don't like a system where I can't manually perform a payout. And I get real tired of seeing those messages saying "new things to come" just "be patient" all over that have been there for over a year.
come over to mmpool!
new round just started
June 14, 2014, 09:12:08 AM
... I assume the values on btcguild were lower because of bad luck ...
btcguild bad luck won't affect the hash rate you see. It will affect the payouts only.
BTC Guild's luck is horrible. That's the only reason I went with Ghash (this was months ago) and their luck really never recovered yet. As much as I pain to mine on the Ghash pool, I have to some times. And forget Eligius. I don't understand their payout system and don't like a system where I can't manually perform a payout. And I get real tired of seeing those messages saying "new things to come" just "be patient" all over that have been there for over a year.
June 14, 2014, 09:07:45 AM
murdof what's the pool speed for your miners?
I updated twp SP10's firmware and they are hashing a little slower than previously. I'll let them hash over night and take a peek again later. I usually get my highest hash readings on the the guild. If I use Ghash, it's all over the place.
The miners will report lower speed on GUI, but you will see higher speed on the pool. Since you just made your upgrade it will take a couple of hours to get some accurate numbers from both the miner and the pool.
I'm also waiting for my DC host to switch me to 208V. Still on 110V. Wanna squeeze everything I can out of it.
June 14, 2014, 07:47:24 AM
You can always put a 3 kw space heater in your garage to simulate it.
Once again, the units do work above 35°C.
I can´t remember what the maximum was that spondoolies tested it at, though.
Sp30 should have a bit more thermal headroom though.
Once again, the units do work above 35°C.
I can´t remember what the maximum was that spondoolies tested it at, though.
Sp30 should have a bit more thermal headroom though.
Miner front temperature usually ~5C above ambient.
The thermal shutdown was set to 50front/90back.
From 1.4.0 at 50front it will set max fans, and thermal shutdown moved to 60C. On the back it's still 90C.
Thermal shutdown will not shutdown, it will rest till temperatures under 60C. If it takes more then 5 minutes for system to cool down, the mining watchdog (external process to minergate) notices that there is no mining and restarts the unit. If you have 5-10 minute spikes on the 24hour graph, most likely you are cooling it wrong.
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