[ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs - page 568.

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Quote from: ManeBjorn on June 13, 2014, 07:22:24 PM

Zvi, I was wondering how to allow API access so MultiMiner can see the miner on the network like it does the Antminers and such.
I have it setup as the default like this.

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api-listen
True

api-allow
W:127.0.0.1

It is like something is missing to make it work.

Thanks

You have to ssh to station and vi /etc/cgminer.conf
I am not expert on the cgminer config files, I know you can set w:0/0 to enable total remote access to miner from any station. Maybe someone here can guide you to a more secure configuration.
It's important for minepeon to have access from local station (127.0.0.1).

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Quote from: btc_uzr on June 14, 2014, 07:00:16 AM

No intention to spread fud as Spondoolies delivers hq hardware and has the best customer support I'm aware of.

They were very fast with shipping in the past, so I was a little confused about the fact that some miners will be shipped more than one week after this date. Guess due to the high amount of orders ? If it has been communicated clearly, ok fine, I missed that part sorry in that case.

it did confuse me to think you would spread FUD, sorry if I offended by intimating this. I know, it's not like you at all.
But yeah, Jewish holidays (i am seriously considering turning!) play a big part in Israeli life, but knowing Sp-Tech, there is undoubtedly going to be someone in the office keeping things ticking over, if even at a slow pace until tomorrow, when the workforce will be back (presumedly).

peace.

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No intention to spread fud as Spondoolies delivers hq hardware and has the best customer support I'm aware of.

They were very fast with shipping in the past, so I was a little confused about the fact that some miners will be shipped more than one week after this date. If it has been communicated clearly, ok fine, I missed that part - sorry and thanks for pointing out.

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Quote from: raskul on June 14, 2014, 06:05:15 AM

Quote from: btc_uzr on June 14, 2014, 06:02:29 AM

Quote from: raskul on June 13, 2014, 02:27:10 PM

Quote from: TheJuice on June 13, 2014, 02:18:33 PM

Any news of the June 10th batch? Shipping soon? Price barely moved with this batch.

Quote from: Guy Corem on June 12, 2014, 02:09:03 AM

Quote from: raskul on June 12, 2014, 01:37:32 AM

can we have a status update on June batch please? thanks

Small number of shipping will be today.
More on Monday and Wednesday or Thursday next week.

So Spondoolies has joined the club of manufacturers facing delays and not being able to stick to their promised delivery time frame.
We reached this point faster than I expected, after such a good start..

Hope this was just a one-timer as I'm still on the fence watching..

I don't see any delays, your feeble attempt to spread FUD is below you, my friend.
June batch was billed to begin build on 10th June; therefore I would expect the shipping queue to run for a couple of weeks after the initial build date.

+1 and not to mention they just came off a Holiday. It was mentioned by Spondoolies in an earlier post that there deliveries would taper off a bit because of it. Also you might notice the lack of Spondoolies responses for the last couple of days as there work week is Sunday thru Thursday so expect to see some replies to your question(s) tomorrow (well my tomorrow anyway).

~Blaise

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Quote from: btc_uzr on June 14, 2014, 06:02:29 AM

So Spondoolies has joined the club of manufacturers facing delays and not being able to stick to their promised delivery time frame.
We reached this point faster than I expected, after such a good start..

Hope this was just a one-timer as I'm still on the fence watching..

Yeah, spondoolies was always open about their delivery timeframe, please take your unfounded bickering somewhere else.
As it still is June, production is right on track. I don´t know how you would manage it, but unit building takes some time. Please tell me how you would build eg 1000 units in one day, without charging a hefty premium.

The local shipping contractor might also have some complaints about something like that.

On a side note, it would be nice to have a hosting@ email adress for all questions regarding your hosted units.
I find it difficult to remember whom to cc when i have questions about my hosted units.

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Quote from: btc_uzr on June 14, 2014, 06:02:29 AM

Quote from: raskul on June 13, 2014, 02:27:10 PM

Quote from: TheJuice on June 13, 2014, 02:18:33 PM

Any news of the June 10th batch? Shipping soon? Price barely moved with this batch.

Quote from: Guy Corem on June 12, 2014, 02:09:03 AM

Quote from: raskul on June 12, 2014, 01:37:32 AM

can we have a status update on June batch please? thanks

Small number of shipping will be today.
More on Monday and Wednesday or Thursday next week.

So Spondoolies has joined the club of manufacturers facing delays and not being able to stick to their promised delivery time frame.
We reached this point faster than I expected, after such a good start..

Hope this was just a one-timer as I'm still on the fence watching..

I don't see any delays, your feeble attempt to spread FUD is below you, my friend.
June batch was billed to begin build on 10th June; therefore I would expect the shipping queue to run for a couple of weeks after the initial build date.

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Quote from: raskul on June 13, 2014, 02:27:10 PM

Quote from: TheJuice on June 13, 2014, 02:18:33 PM

Any news of the June 10th batch? Shipping soon? Price barely moved with this batch.

Quote from: Guy Corem on June 12, 2014, 02:09:03 AM

Quote from: raskul on June 12, 2014, 01:37:32 AM

can we have a status update on June batch please? thanks

Small number of shipping will be today.
More on Monday and Wednesday or Thursday next week.

So Spondoolies has joined the club of manufacturers facing delays and not being able to stick to their promised delivery time frame.
We reached this point faster than I expected, after such a good start..

Hope this was just a one-timer as I'm still on the fence watching..

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Quote from: lucazane on June 14, 2014, 04:32:12 AM

Quote from: Collider on June 14, 2014, 03:06:52 AM

You can always put a 3 kw space heater in your garage to simulate it.

Once again, the units do work above 35°C.

I can´t remember what the maximum was that spondoolies tested it at, though.

Sp30 should have a bit more thermal headroom though.

the spec say 35°C max ^^

That obviously doesn´t mean it won´t work above the specified temperature. It just means full speed isn´t guaranteed then (and it might affect the lifecycle)

If you have cheap power available you could also think about ACing the unit, especially as most of the ACing should be needed when your solar panels produce the most electricity.

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Quote from: Collider on June 14, 2014, 03:06:52 AM

You can always put a 3 kw space heater in your garage to simulate it.

Once again, the units do work above 35°C.

I can´t remember what the maximum was that spondoolies tested it at, though.

Sp30 should have a bit more thermal headroom though.

the spec say 35°C max ^^

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You can always put a 3 kw space heater in your garage to simulate it.

Once again, the units do work above 35°C.

I can´t remember what the maximum was that spondoolies tested it at, though.

Sp30 should have a bit more thermal headroom though.

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Thanks QuiveringGibbage and raskul thats the sort of info i was interested in hearing. Real world experience.

At the end of the day i have no idea what 3000W of heat translates to in the ability of a garage to dissipate said heat without everything cooking. I guessed someone has run a similar amount of hardware in a garage before.

My aim is to run a viable bitcoin setup that fits neatly into my current rack rather than getting rich with multiple units. A sort of hobby farm to support the decentralisation of the bitcoin network. Most of the power coming from my solar panels to reduce costs and keep things viable.

It sounds like this may be a bridge to far without factoring in AC costs and moving it inside sadly. Especially with multiple servers already in place. Maybe i can see whats on the market once i ship both my C6100's out. That gives me well over 1000W more to play with power and heat wise.

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Quote from: clownius on June 14, 2014, 02:13:55 AM

Wondering if you think one of these SP-30's would go well in my home rack. I have a 22RU 800 deep rack in my garage (to cut down on noise) that has a pair of C6100's and a pair of single node 3U systems already.

Trying to work out the maths on the power draw and heat. Running 240V in Australia with 4 power circuits (one dedicated to the rack) but not sure what standard wiring handles Amp wise. Also how much heat do these pump out and how do they handle 30C+ temps which can be normal in summer?

Will be able to cover at least some of the power cost with my solar panels and can maybe spring for more. But if i start needing AC to cool things it means moving them inside and then noise and AC costs would become a real issue.

I wouldn't be running these in my garage through summer (Sydney, no a/c). Winter I plan on running for a week maybe, just to play around and then have it hosted. I only have the 10amp from 1 power point to run it, if I can. I may have to under volt.

On a tangent; have you considered the cost of electricity running SP30 24 by 7 with the rates we pay for electricity? fyi.. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/hw-hosting-directory-reputation-622998 (H/w Hosting Directory & Reputation)

is the garage well ventilated?

I had a pair of these in a double garage, and it was 35c front / back 80c in May.

More pics here: http://imgur.com/a/mRbMZ#ZZd203T

Cheers,
QG

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Quote from: Collider on June 14, 2014, 02:40:56 AM

Sry, yes i did get up at the wrong side of the bed.

Anyhow, with every computing appliance, energy in equals pretty much heat out.

We all get that way mate, no worries.. I've had concussion this last week and been behaving like a stinking troll around my wife and family (i normally resign my trolling to BCTalk).

With regards the energy -> heat, yup, it's quite simple really, and you are right... I reckon I may just get away with my garage location for the SP30 - the good thing for me is it'll be delivered once summer is gone, so I should be able to get it to peak performance. However, Australia in December? hmmm, not so sure... Another day closer....

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Sry, yes i did get up at the wrong side of the bed.

Anyhow, with every computing appliance, energy in equals pretty much heat out, as energy cannot be destroyed.

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Quote from: Collider on June 14, 2014, 02:25:11 AM

They are producing pretty much the amount of heat they draw in power... Why is this a recurring question?

What do you think happens with the power inside the unit? The energy somehow gets converted to light? More particles are produced?

As to high temperatures, it can handle over 30°C but might run a little slower.

mate, did you get outta the wrong side of the bed this morning, clownius was only asking - 158 pages is a trawl to go through to find answers.
it takes nothing to be polite.

anyhoo... i've got my SP10 in the garage and it runs fine even when intake temp goes up to 34 degrees C - hashrate drops to just 1.4 (i'm not gonna go into the high rate for fear of Zvi slapping my wrists) So yeah, at 34, ASIC stats are up to 113C but don't go into the red. BUT: this is Scotland, not Australia - I'd advise some extra cooling in the land down under.

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They are producing pretty much the amount of heat they draw in power... Why is this a recurring question?

What do you think happens with the power inside the unit? I think it is extremely unlikely that a major amount of new particles are produced, or the energy is expelled via radiation. (Except from maybe infrared)

As to high temperatures, it can handle over 30°C but might run a little slower.

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Wondering if you think one of these SP-30's would go well in my home rack. I have a 22RU 800 deep rack in my garage (to cut down on noise) that has a pair of C6100's and a pair of single node 3U systems already.

Trying to work out the maths on the power draw and heat. Running 240V in Australia with 4 power circuits (one dedicated to the rack) but not sure what standard wiring handles Amp wise. Also how much heat do these pump out and how do they handle 30C+ temps which can be normal in summer?

Will be able to cover at least some of the power cost with my solar panels and can maybe spring for more. But if i start needing AC to cool things it means moving them inside and then noise and AC costs would become a real issue.

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Quote from: bkpduke on June 13, 2014, 07:24:46 PM

Quote from: Powell on June 13, 2014, 06:32:45 PM

I want to ask some of the self proclaimed DC people who obviously know more than anyone.

Lets say you stuffed 32 SP10's into a rack leaving room for a switch up top. How many circuits would that one rack need? Hell how about you give me a AMP figure.

The SP products are bad ass but I think most of you have to much koolaid you are trying to hand out. You act like you are going to run these miners for years LOL! I kept stuff for no more than 2 months before sold and moved onto newer equipment.

We run a hosting company (don't ask, I won't colo your miners :p). On 208V circuits, we are seeing that each SP10 pulls 6.5A.

32 SP10 x 6.5A = 208A total.

That is AT MINIMUM 7 X 30A circuits for a single cab, leaving you zero margin for fluctuations. Most DCs won't let you pull more than 80% of the rated circuit.

Realistically, the power density is higher than most DCs will let you purchase, even those that advertise high power density.

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With all the above said, the SP10s are still the most power-efficient miners I have seen to date. For our hosting operations I have to buy power in bulk, so I simply squeeze one or two of these SP10s into a cab where I have power that is paid for, but not fully utilized.

Are you listed here? If not, perhaps you would be interested?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/hw-hosting-directory-reputation-622998

~Blaise

EDIT: Oh sorry, you "won't" I misunderstood. ;(

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Quote from: bkpduke on June 13, 2014, 07:24:46 PM

Quote from: Powell on June 13, 2014, 06:32:45 PM

I want to ask some of the self proclaimed DC people who obviously know more than anyone.

Lets say you stuffed 32 SP10's into a rack leaving room for a switch up top. How many circuits would that one rack need? Hell how about you give me a AMP figure.

The SP products are bad ass but I think most of you have to much koolaid you are trying to hand out. You act like you are going to run these miners for years LOL! I kept stuff for no more than 2 months before sold and moved onto newer equipment.

We run a hosting company (don't ask, I won't colo your miners :p). On 208V circuits, we are seeing that each SP10 pulls 6.5A.

32 SP10 x 6.5A = 208A total.

That is AT MINIMUM 7 X 30A circuits for a single cab, leaving you zero margin for fluctuations. Most DCs won't let you pull more than 80% of the rated circuit.

Realistically, the power density is higher than most DCs will let you purchase, even those that advertise high power density.

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With all the above said, the SP10s are still the most power-efficient miners I have seen to date. For our hosting operations I have to buy power in bulk, so I simply squeeze one or two of these SP10s into a cab where I have power that is paid for, but not fully utilized.

Nice information, thank you for sharing it.

Regards,

~Blaise

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Quote from: jimmothy on June 13, 2014, 07:43:36 PM

I guarantee that you will have a bigger profit margin on 1.2w/gh @ $0.1/kwh now vs 0.5w/gh @ $0.15/kwh in september.

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Probably not much considering you could have it shipped via boat and have it in only a month.

Not your best day it seems. This is the second contradictory statement. Are they hashing now or in a month?

Their ROI will go down the toilet if they start hashing in a month when SP30 starts to ship and they will regret for sure not getting a more power efficient miner.

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