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Will there be some kind of bonus for the guys who bought the first sp10/sp30 bundle? They payed around 9000$ per sp30 and those are now only 4500$.

These are your most loyal customers, who trusted you from the start and put their money where their mouth was.

Essentially they payed double the amount for only 2 weeks earlier delivery....

I'm sure Spondoolies would have given you similar discount if you bought 250 SP30's, or organized a group buy and sold 250 minimum.

you still have time to buy more by joining in current group buy sale before it closes in 3 hours.  
This would be true if all units went to one customer.
However spondoolies has to manage shipping and payment on a per-customer basis.

I don´t demand anything, i would just like to hear from spondoolies regarding the topic.

These are the most loyal customers who bought their sp30 at~9000$ as part of a bundle.
Early adopters should be rewarded and not punished for making an order.
This is why i ask wether there will be any kind of bonus for these most loyal customers, who trusted spondoolies when they hadn´t shipped anything yet.
There wasn´t even the 10% off chance etc. at the beginning.

While i value the input from every community member regarding this topic, i actually just want a short statement from spondoolies.
I only posted it on the forums because i think many early adopters are wondering the same thing, and i value spondoolies as a company with great integrety.


I must agree that group buy is a bit different, but we are talking about a 50% discount for people buying single orders.
Even if you compare with the SP10+SP30 in store right now you get a 3.300$ discount (or 22%) + one extra hosting month on each machine, even at 3 month contracts thats another 600$. So even with in store prices that's a 3900$ discount.

Even the evil apple usually offers something to the people that bought old generation items when a new one arrives or there is a price reduction.

Also take into account that most of us bought even before the test units arrived, we believed in SP and when the units arrived confirmed they were 100% legit, that group buy would be impossible without us taking the lead and adding trust to SP.

But as said, no one forced us to buy and we did on our own, so I don't demand anything.
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you still have time to buy more by joining in current group buy sale before it closes in 3 hours.  
While that is a great sales pitch, in reality every customer only has limited funds available, and unless he bought 50 units now, which would make overpaying by 4,5k on one unit a very minor disadvantage, he is still at a huge loss compared to every other customer as of now.

What do you recommend to community member "anarchy" who bought 22 of these bundles?
Place another 220 orders?

Again, the first customers also "payed" with more trust and punishing them for believing in a company wouldn´t be the right move in my opinion.

I am not demanding anything, i just hope that spondoolies will decide on offering these customers something to make them equally likely to ROI on their investment like everyone else.



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@spondoolies

Will there be some kind of bonus for the guys who bought the first sp10/sp30 bundle? They payed around 9000$ per sp30 and those are now only 4500$.

These are your most loyal customers, who trusted you from the start and put their money where their mouth was.

Essentially they payed double the amount for only 2 weeks earlier delivery....

I'm sure Spondoolies would have given you similar discount if you bought 250 SP30's, or organized a group buy and sold 250 minimum.

you still have time to buy more by joining in current group buy sale before it closes in 3 hours.  
This would be true if all units went to one customer.
However spondoolies has to manage shipping and payment on a per-customer basis.

I don´t demand anything, i would just like to hear from spondoolies regarding the topic.

These are the most loyal customers who bought their sp30 at~9000$ as part of a bundle.
Early adopters should be rewarded and not punished for making an order.
This is why i ask wether there will be any kind of bonus for these most loyal customers, who trusted spondoolies when they hadn´t shipped anything yet.
There wasn´t even the 10% off chance etc. at the beginning.

While i value the input from every community member regarding this topic, i actually just want a short statement from spondoolies.
I only posted it on the forums because i think many early adopters are wondering the same thing, and i value spondoolies as a company with great integrety.

I know of one community member who bought more than 10 of these bundles, and if i were him, this would be one of the most urgent questions for spondoolies, as without any offer, he would have overpayed by more than 45000$ on a bulk order, while every single customer buying just one unit only has to pay half the price now.
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@spondoolies

Will there be some kind of bonus for the guys who bought the first sp10/sp30 bundle? They payed around 9000$ per sp30 and those are now only 4500$.

These are your most loyal customers, who trusted you from the start and put their money where their mouth was.

Essentially they payed double the amount for only 2 weeks earlier delivery....

I'm sure Spondoolies would have given you similar discount if you bought 250 SP30's, or organized a group buy and sold 250 minimum.

you still have time to buy more by joining in current group buy sale before it closes in 3 hours.  

This.
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@spondoolies

Will there be some kind of bonus for the guys who bought the first sp10/sp30 bundle? They payed around 9000$ per sp30 and those are now only 4500$.

These are your most loyal customers, who trusted you from the start and put their money where their mouth was.

Essentially they payed double the amount for only 2 weeks earlier delivery....

I'm sure Spondoolies would have given you similar discount if you bought 250 SP30's, or organized a group buy and sold 250 minimum.

you still have time to buy more by joining in current group buy sale before it closes in 3 hours.  
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@spondoolies

Will there be some kind of bonus for the guys who bought the first sp10/sp30 bundle? They payed around 9000$ per sp30 and those are now only 4500$.

These are your most loyal customers, who trusted you from the start and put their money where their mouth was.

Essentially they payed double the amount for only 2 weeks earlier delivery....

rule n°1: never rush in when it comes to buy mining gear. Tongue
I like steep discounts like the next guy but you also need to think about existing customers.

These are the most loyal customers who bought a bundle because it seemed like the best deal. I hope spondoolies give them some kind of bonus or coupon, otherwise they would punish their earliest adopters.

Remember, these are the very first customers who preordered further into the future than anyone here.

They took the biggest risk and they should receive at least equal the hashpower as customers who buy gear just now.



i disagree, when you make a purchase, you read the fine print, you weigh it up and you pull the trigger... you go into every transaction knowing what you are getting. The group buy was only offered at the price it achieved because of the volume being ordered in one single order (the single order being made by Roadstress on behalf of the community) - If the group buy was for an SP10 / SP30 bundle x 1 then the price would have been the same as that displayed on the website.

Volume = Discount.
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@spondoolies

Will there be some kind of bonus for the guys who bought the first sp10/sp30 bundle? They payed around 9000$ per sp30 and those are now only 4500$.

These are your most loyal customers, who trusted you from the start and put their money where their mouth was.

Essentially they payed double the amount for only 2 weeks earlier delivery....

rule n°1: never rush in when it comes to buy mining gear. Tongue
I like steep discounts like the next guy but you also need to think about existing customers.

These are the most loyal customers who bought a bundle because it seemed like the best deal. I hope spondoolies give them some kind of bonus or coupon, otherwise they would punish their earliest adopters.

Remember, these are the very first customers who preordered further into the future than anyone here.
Making them pay double for the sp30 delivered only two weeks early seems excessive.

They took the biggest risk and they should receive at least equal the hashpower as customers who buy gear just now.

Customers would not buy mining equipment if they knew that after 14 days spondoolies will give everyone a huge amount off, more than can be achieved by mining with your gear in that timeframe.

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@spondoolies

Will there be some kind of bonus for the guys who bought the first sp10/sp30 bundle? They payed around 9000$ per sp30 and those are now only 4500$.

These are your most loyal customers, who trusted you from the start and put their money where their mouth was.

Essentially they payed double the amount for only 2 weeks earlier delivery....

rule n°1: never rush in when it comes to buy mining gear. Tongue

true, that.

I thought rule n°1 was Never buy from BFL?
Followed closely behind by Never get involved in a land-war in Asia.
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@spondoolies

Will there be some kind of bonus for the guys who bought the first sp10/sp30 bundle? They payed around 9000$ per sp30 and those are now only 4500$.

These are your most loyal customers, who trusted you from the start and put their money where their mouth was.

Essentially they payed double the amount for only 2 weeks earlier delivery....

rule n°1: never rush in when it comes to buy mining gear. Tongue

true, that.
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@spondoolies

Will there be some kind of bonus for the guys who bought the first sp10/sp30 bundle? They payed around 9000$ per sp30 and those are now only 4500$.

These are your most loyal customers, who trusted you from the start and put their money where their mouth was.

Essentially they payed double the amount for only 2 weeks earlier delivery....

rule n°1: never rush in when it comes to buy mining gear. Tongue
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@spondoolies

Will there be some kind of bonus for the guys who bought the first sp10/sp30 bundle? They payed around 9000$ per sp30 and those are now only 4500$.

These are your most loyal customers, who trusted you from the start and put their money where their mouth was.

Essentially they payed double the amount for only 2 weeks earlier delivery....
legendary
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FYI, I noticed a drop in hashrate. Thought it was bad luck but the hash rate dropped a bit everyday. After a reboot, I'm back with fantastic hashrate : quiet mode runing @ 1.4+ TH/s and normal mode @1.55+ TH/s (one hour stats).
I advice a reboot -done in 60s- everyday for optimal hash rate.
Running version 1.2.35

I didn't see such system behaviour. It can be related to the way the pool computes hash-rate. Can you send me image of your hash graph to [email protected]?

Regards`

Depending on the pool it could be that it is being DDOS'ed that would also cause a drop in hash rate at the miner end.
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FYI, I noticed a drop in hashrate. Thought it was bad luck but the hash rate dropped a bit everyday. After a reboot, I'm back with fantastic hashrate : quiet mode runing @ 1.4+ TH/s and normal mode @1.55+ TH/s (one hour stats).
I advice a reboot -done in 60s- everyday for optimal hash rate.
Running version 1.2.35

I didn't see such system behaviour. It can be related to the way the pool computes hash-rate. Can you send me image of your hash graph to [email protected]?

Regards`
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I have a question about warranty + hosting.

What is the warranty period you offer on new miners?
What is the process to return the miner back to you to fix it?
Do you send spare parts with instructions on self-fix or everything has to be done by you?

Hosting:
Have you thought about providing extended warranty for your hosted miners?
If I start with a hosting plan - I can just stop it whenver I want - pay you for shipping and send it out to me?

Lots of questions - hope not answered yet Tongue
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noobie
FYI, I noticed a drop in hashrate. Thought it was bad luck but the hash rate dropped a bit everyday. After a reboot, I'm back with fantastic hashrate : quiet mode runing @ 1.4+ TH/s and normal mode @1.55+ TH/s (one hour stats).
I advice a reboot -done in 60s- everyday for optimal hash rate.
Running version 1.2.35
legendary
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I didn't get into the group buy and I might regret it.

But I wanna ask: if BTC goes to 600-700$ in June will the miners prices be adjusted? Or if this will happen I will be able to get a miner at better prices than today?(in BTC)

That is a group buy for a massive discount, Spondoolies already has a payment plan for people who want to hedge their bets on BTC price increases or decreases but you have to order from the website.


Partial payments!
You have been asking us lately to offer more options when it came to payments on pre-orders.
We want you to be able to secure the best units for future mining, while keeping your own risks at checks.
 
Starting today and only in April we are offering new and improved payment terms!
1.     40% in advance, 60% when your unit is ready for shipment
2.     40% in advance, 60% converted into Bitcoin and paid when the unit is ready for shipment.
3.     10% discount for upfront payment


These options allow you to better protect yourselves against changes in the Bitcoin exchange rate.
  • Think the Bitcoin value is going to drop? Chose the second option and convert the reminder of your payment to Bitcoin in today’s value.
  • Think the value will rise? Choose to pay your reminder in US dollars.

We will record whichever option you choose and charge you accordingly. On payment of the 60%, you can still choose to pay with Bitcoin, US dollars, or Euros. We will convert the amount in our record to the desired payment methods.

These options will now be available when purchasing a single Yukon unit or the 3 X SP30 Farmer's choice deal.

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I didn't get into the group buy and I might regret it.

But I wanna ask: if BTC goes to 600-700$ in June will the miners prices be adjusted? Or if this will happen I will be able to get a miner at better prices than today?(in BTC)
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Shareholders only have as much blind faith as you have in spondoolies.

But I agree there will be a shitstorm if there are no dividends in 2 months. But as shareholders you agree to take thay risk knowing it is a gamble.

Also to clarify I think the chances of SP underperforming are as likely as overperforming. However it's impossible to know without a chip in hand.

I'm more skeptical of the shipping date. If they are taping out in may that leaves no room for delays.

Actually first AM shareholders had more blind faith than mine in Spondoolies. At first nobody knew who fc is or his team and had no proof when they invested in the IPO. Me on the other hand i know the team and they released a product first. It's a bit different.

Taping out early in May means they will get chips early in July. Plenty of time to sort things up until August delivery.
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PS: did you notice the lack of shitstorm(from customers) with AM missing spec/date?


That's because shareholders have blind faith in friedcat. Let's see how gen3.1 goes. You already had one month with no dividends right? If AM doesn't start shipping gen3.1 chips in 1 month i assume people will start asking questions. If they won't ship/pay good dividends in 2 months then the shitstorm is coming.

Shareholders only have as much blind faith as you have in spondoolies.

But I agree there will be a shitstorm if there are no dividends in 2 months. But as shareholders you agree to take thay risk knowing it is a gamble.

Also to clarify I think the chances of SP underperforming are as likely as overperforming. However it's impossible to know without a chip in hand.

I'm more skeptical of the shipping date. If they are taping out in may that leaves no room for delays.
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I like these stats sir.
Do you own an SP10?
Is TURBO mode an overclocking mode?
Does it require extreme low temps to operate properly?
Thanks again for the post, I like POSITIVE info on equipment
THEY HAVE SHIPPED and so far anyone Ive seen post on the
SP10 is higly praising their product.  Im impressed so far sir!!

TURBO mode is the most powerful firmware setting, which can easily be chosen via the webinterface.
It will get the most hashing power out of your unit, with a slight increase in power draw and noise levels (fans run at max)

The sp10´s firmware does dynamic frequency control for every chip, based on that chip´s temperature. This ensures every chip will perform to its maximum without getting damaged.
The lower the ambient temperature is, the higher the chips will be clocking. Very good results can be achieved at normal DC temperatures of around 20°C intake temperature.

Therefore i would describe the cooling requirements as quite reasonable. If you somehow have a facility with free aircolling like a forum member in Scottland, and can achieve 5°C, that really puts the "pedal to the metal".
However, you will typically get very good results with standard operating temperatures.


@wanna4fun: What is your intake temperature (and where is your DC located?)
                    Did you switch the PSU for a 1250W model?

@hardhouseinc: Yes I own 3 SP10 and i'm really happy with it !

@collider : intake temp : 21°C +/- 2°C from a cold corridor (I came with my thermometer).
I believe I have a standard PSU.
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