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11p per kwh

which is cheap for the region, but yes, more expensive than most other parts of the world - we are currently going through what the scammers government call a 'green energy subsidy phase' - the only problem is, it's the taxpayer who is funding those subsidies. My SP10 costs ~£105.66 per month to run there and I just pay mum direct debit, by selling a few of the coins i've mined.

That does translate to 0,15$ roughly.
I know the fuzzy feeling you get when holding your gear in hand, but i will be opting for the long-term hosting solution provided in cooperation with Spondoolies, as i will then be sure the DCs are able to handle the
requirements, and 290$ for a sp30 does seam very reasonable.

If i put it in a DC where i live, i would have to pay around double that, and pay 20% VAT.

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After the big earthquake and the nuclear scares the public screamed to turn off
ALL the reactors.  They are like sheep here sometimes I swear.

I am risking to sound political here, but Japan is in a high risk area for Tsunamis (i dont quite know how high the risk for earthquakes is), and every Nuclear powerplant is at the shore for cooling needs.

That simply doesn´t strike me as a too smart move, frankly.
Cancer rates specifically for thyroid cancer will be at an all-time high in the next years (this typically takes ~4yrs as studies from Tschernobil have shown), and this is a really "nasty" cancer with low survivability.

Dont get me wrong, i accept Nuclear power can be harnessed with very low risks e.g. in areas of the united states with low risks for environmental disasters and abundant space to store the waste.

In my country, electricity rates are ~0,35$, lower for high energy businesses.
I feel your pain but i wouldn´t want to have cheap power at every cost.
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If you somehow have a facility with free aircolling like a forum member in Scottland, and can achieve 5°C,

Nearly May and i'm going out to work (pro bono for a local care home) dressed in a scarf, hat and gloves.
lovely place for hosting, but you wouldn't wanna live here!
Yes, temperatures are good in Scotland, but isn´t power at around 0,15$?

I am still in favour of the Iceland modular Datacenter solution, where we just pool enough sp10/30 customers together and get one of those containers.

If you specifically ask for it, these can be cooled by the iceland air to around 5-10°C, and power in Iceland for industrial customers is 4ct/kwh guaranteed for 10 years, so the DC should be able to give us a good quote.

Also, 100% green geothermal energy. (WA state is also ~80% hydroelectric but they wont achieve crazy-low temperatures in the DCs)

i use my mum's garage, she gets pensioner rates on her electric  Grin
What are these roughly?

That will be an interesting power bill at the end of the year:
"Madam, it seems you have used enough electricity to power an average Scottish village."

"Oh yes, i am terribly forgetful and always leave the oven on."



11p per kwh

which is cheap for the region, but yes, more expensive than most other parts of the world - we are currently going through what the scammers government call a 'green energy subsidy phase' - the only problem is, it's the taxpayer who is funding those subsidies. My SP10 costs ~£105.66 per month to run there and I just pay mum direct debit, by selling a few of the coins i've mined.

Close to .25  - .30 here in japan.  Sad
After the big earthquake and the nuclear scares the public screamed to turn off
ALL the reactors.  They are like sheep here sometimes I swear.
Now electricity is WAY up.
I hope to god my AC unit is as efficient as they claim it.
5C would be good!  Maybe punch a hole in the side of a deep freezer for air flow
and ducts for warm air in and out and put them inside that for cooling?  Plausible?
 LOL Cheesy
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If you somehow have a facility with free aircolling like a forum member in Scottland, and can achieve 5°C,

Nearly May and i'm going out to work (pro bono for a local care home) dressed in a scarf, hat and gloves.
lovely place for hosting, but you wouldn't wanna live here!
Yes, temperatures are good in Scotland, but isn´t power at around 0,15$?

I am still in favour of the Iceland modular Datacenter solution, where we just pool enough sp10/30 customers together and get one of those containers.

If you specifically ask for it, these can be cooled by the iceland air to around 5-10°C, and power in Iceland for industrial customers is 4ct/kwh guaranteed for 10 years, so the DC should be able to give us a good quote.

Also, 100% green geothermal energy. (WA state is also ~80% hydroelectric but they wont achieve crazy-low temperatures in the DCs)

i use my mum's garage, she gets pensioner rates on her electric  Grin
What are these roughly?

That will be an interesting power bill at the end of the year:
"Madam, it seems you have used enough electricity to power an average Scottish village."

"Oh yes, i am terribly forgetful and always leave the oven on."



11p per kwh

which is cheap for the region, but yes, more expensive than most other parts of the world - we are currently going through what the scammers government call a 'green energy subsidy phase' - the only problem is, it's the taxpayer who is funding those subsidies. My SP10 costs ~£105.66 per month to run there and I just pay mum direct debit, by selling a few of the coins i've mined.
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If you somehow have a facility with free aircolling like a forum member in Scottland, and can achieve 5°C,

Nearly May and i'm going out to work (pro bono for a local care home) dressed in a scarf, hat and gloves.
lovely place for hosting, but you wouldn't wanna live here!
Yes, temperatures are good in Scotland, but isn´t power at around 0,15$?

I am still in favour of the Iceland modular Datacenter solution, where we just pool enough sp10/30 customers together and get one of those containers.

If you specifically ask for it, these can be cooled by the iceland air to around 5-10°C, and power in Iceland for industrial customers is 4ct/kwh guaranteed for 10 years, so the DC should be able to give us a good quote.

Also, 100% green geothermal energy. (WA state is also ~80% hydroelectric but they wont achieve crazy-low temperatures in the DCs)

i use my mum's garage, she gets pensioner rates on her electric  Grin
What are these roughly?

That will be an interesting power bill at the end of the year:
"Madam, it seems you have used enough electricity to power an average Scottish village."

"Oh yes, i am terribly forgetful and always leave the oven on." Wink

Just saying once you get to industrial levels of your power use, it might not hold up.
Also, if you dont import these devices into the EU, you can typically save 20% on VAT.

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If you somehow have a facility with free aircolling like a forum member in Scottland, and can achieve 5°C,

Nearly May and i'm going out to work (pro bono for a local care home) dressed in a scarf, hat and gloves.
lovely place for hosting, but you wouldn't wanna live here!
Yes, temperatures are good in Scotland, but isn´t power at around 0,15$?

I am still in favour of the Iceland modular Datacenter solution, where we just pool enough sp10/30 customers together and get one of those containers.

If you specifically ask for it, these can be cooled by the iceland air to around 5-10°C, and power in Iceland for industrial customers is 4ct/kwh guaranteed for 10 years, so the DC should be able to give us a good quote.

Also, 100% green geothermal energy. (WA state is also ~80% hydroelectric but they wont achieve crazy-low temperatures in the DCs)

i use my mum's garage, she gets pensioner rates on her electric  Grin
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If you somehow have a facility with free aircolling like a forum member in Scottland, and can achieve 5°C,

Nearly May and i'm going out to work (pro bono for a local care home) dressed in a scarf, hat and gloves.
lovely place for hosting, but you wouldn't wanna live here!
Yes, temperatures are good in Scotland, but isn´t power at around 0,15$?

I am still in favour of the Iceland modular Datacenter solution, where we just pool enough sp10/30 customers together and get one of those containers.

If you specifically ask for it, these can be cooled by the iceland air to around 5-10°C, and power in Iceland for industrial customers is 4ct/kwh guaranteed for 10 years, so the DC should be able to give us a good quote.

Also, 100% green geothermal energy. (WA state is also ~80% hydroelectric but they wont achieve crazy-low temperatures in the DCs)

@raskul: your unit might be able to achieve even higher values if you change the PSU to the 1250W model.
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If you somehow have a facility with free aircolling like a forum member in Scottland, and can achieve 5°C,

Nearly May and i'm going out to work (pro bono for a local care home) dressed in a scarf, hat and gloves.
lovely place for hosting, but you wouldn't wanna live here!
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I like these stats sir.
Do you own an SP10?
Is TURBO mode an overclocking mode?
Does it require extreme low temps to operate properly?
Thanks again for the post, I like POSITIVE info on equipment
THEY HAVE SHIPPED and so far anyone Ive seen post on the
SP10 is higly praising their product.  Im impressed so far sir!!

TURBO mode is the most powerful firmware setting, which can easily be chosen via the webinterface.
It will get the most hashing power out of your unit, with a slight increase in power draw and noise levels (fans run at max)

The sp10´s firmware does dynamic frequency control for every chip, based on that chip´s temperature. This ensures every chip will perform to its maximum without getting damaged.
The lower the ambient temperature is, the higher the chips will be clocking. Very good results can be achieved at normal DC temperatures of around 20°C intake temperature.

Therefore i would describe the cooling requirements as quite reasonable. If you somehow have a facility with free aircolling like a forum member in Scottland, and can achieve 5°C, that really puts the "pedal to the metal".
However, you will typically get very good results with standard operating temperatures.


@wanna4fun: What is your intake temperature (and where is your DC located?)
                    Did you switch the PSU for a 1250W model?
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Stat from pool (ghash) one hour stats :
SP10 with proper cooling
quiet mode : 1.30-1.4 TH/S, normal 1.4-1.5, turbo 1.6-1.8 Th/s (depends on luck).

Edit 24 hour stat
 quiet : 1.3 TH/s normal 1.4+TH/S turbo 1.7 TH/s


stats from datacenter's PDU @235V :
quiet : 1.2+kVA
normal : 1.4+ kVA
turbo : 1.6+ kVA

This stats are an average of 3 different units for 24 hours.

use this tools to make the math to convert in kW : http://www.olympianpower.com/tools/kva-calculator

1 SP10 turbo mode = 1 Cointerra IV ?
please confirm  Grin


I like these stats sir.
Do you own an SP10?
Is TURBO mode an overclocking mode?
Does it require extreme low temps to operate properly?
Thanks again for the post, I like POSITIVE info on equipment
THEY HAVE SHIPPED and so far anyone Ive seen post on the
SP10 is higly praising their product.  Im impressed so far sir!!
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Stat from pool (ghash) one hour stats :
SP10 with proper cooling
quiet mode : 1.30-1.4 TH/S, normal 1.4-1.5, turbo 1.6-1.8 Th/s (depends on luck).

Edit 24 hour stat
 quiet : 1.3 TH/s normal 1.4+TH/S turbo 1.7 TH/s


stats from datacenter's PDU @235V :
quiet : 1.2+kVA
normal : 1.4+ kVA
turbo : 1.6+ kVA

This stats are an average of 3 different units for 24 hours.

use this tools to make the math to convert in kW : http://www.olympianpower.com/tools/kva-calculator

1 SP10 turbo mode = 1 Cointerra IV ?
please confirm  Grin
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nice to see that Spondoolies still do not censor this thread, unlike others:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6459861
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Conterra: 2375$/Th Shocked

And the you get a double rolette:

How many of the 4 ASICs will actually work ? Cry
For how long ?  Cry



Dont forget to add a whopping 600$ of shipping cost for Cointerra products.

Furthermore, these rarely run at the full 1,6Th, and draw about 1,25W/GH

Mods: Please delete this if it is too far off-topic.
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Please do try to keep posts on-topic. While a moderate amount of comparisons with competition makes sense, extensive sidebar discussions about all the other gear you're running or the ship dates of other vendors is really getting pretty far afield. Smiley
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Quote from: Spondoolies-Tech on April 28, 2014, 19:42:10
The SP30 will be able to produce over 6 THs. Probably over 6.5 THs with 2700 Watt (2 X 1200 rated PSUs, each PSU is able to input 1350 Watt)

Wow!

So for that is a pretty sizeable increase for the dollars put in. I hope it is possible.





I don't think Spondoolies would randomly announce this if it wasn't going to be so. I guess we'll just have to wait and see  Smiley
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Quote from: Spondoolies-Tech on April 28, 2014, 19:42:10
The SP30 will be able to produce over 6 THs. Probably over 6.5 THs with 2700 Watt (2 X 1200 rated PSUs, each PSU is able to input 1350 Watt)

Wow!

So for that is a pretty sizeable increase for the dollars put in. I hope it is possible.



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No. There is no association between raskul and Spondoolies Tech.

Debatable. His level of fanaticism seems like he has an ulterior motive.

I mean bitmain/bitfury are both great but you don't see people preaching about them.

In that same quote, I went on to say this:
All of us are independent forum members, and we are free to speak our mind on this thread and others. None of us speak for Spond.

You should judge Spond on comments that they make, not comments that independent forum members make.

That is what I mean.  Sure, I can't prove that there is no association between raskul and Spond.  But what I mean is that raskul is not an official representative of Spond, and hence should not be taken as such.

My comments were in response to the bold section below:
In actual fact, s1llyn4m3 or whatever he calls himself would be better closing his door and not going out into the world, ever. It would be safer all round.

You can wiggle and squirm raskul, but you will never get off the hook.  Your actions bring Spondoolies-Tech into disrepute just by association.
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You think you can complaint to someone in Shenzhen with your money in hand?

With shipping right now, you can ring the alarm bell to let people know that you are cheated.   Let Paypal know to reverse the order.  His reputation and business will be severely suffered.

vs

With pre-order, when something is wrong you won't know for another 3-4 months.  By that time the seller had amass over $5 million dollars... he already rich so he does not care too much about a couple weeks a months late ... Ok, you want your money back... sure... thank you for letting me borrow your money interest free for 4 months.

Also, by that time many variables were introduced.  It may not be as cheap. Maybe the Chinese will steal their technology in July and mass produce and have them on here for $50 cents/ GH..... never know


Let's not start with maybe's and if's.

For the moment we have some decent company (at last) that promises to deliver in August some powerful mining gear.

You cannot counter that if you don't have evidences.

The world would be great if there is no IF or MAYBE ... that's why I choose one with less IF and MAYBE.... choose stock in hand... I got burned too many times with preorder.   I hope you make out well.  MAYBE you will look back 4 months later and said, IF I had listened to him................
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