Topic: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs - page 650. (Read 1260389 times)
April 28, 2014, 03:21:28 PM
Fanaticism about a hardware manufacturer seems silly. I have bitfury and bitmain gear, but I don't feel the need to put links in my sig or scream from rooftops. I bought them as in hand purchases, they were delivered within days, they work as advertised. The bitfury gear has more than paid for itself. The bitmain gear is well on it's way to doing the same.
April 28, 2014, 03:18:47 PM
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No but do all asic manufacturers announce their future products months in advance?
Leading manfucturers did. See Bitmain
I recall bitmain showing up out of nowhere and shipping in stock hardware. Could be wrong though.
Also looks like knc will be upgrading their neptune orders to 6th. So that's already one company SP will need to compete with. Although I'm still not convinced 20nm will prove viable.
April 28, 2014, 03:13:59 PM
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No but do all asic manufacturers announce their future products months in advance?
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No. There is no association between raskul and Spondoolies Tech.
Leading manfucturers did. See KNC and Bitmain with S1 , S2.
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Debatable. His level of fanaticism seems like he has an ulterior motive.
I mean bitmain/bitfury are both great but you don't see people preaching about them.
I mean bitmain/bitfury are both great but you don't see people preaching about them.
I am also fanatic, because Spond deserves it.
You mean there are no Bitmain fanatics?? Dont let me dig posts!
April 28, 2014, 03:09:56 PM
Do you agree that it will be a race of less-consuming gear, or not??
I agree. But do you agree that we have no idea what the competition will be like in 3-6 months?
I am sure only about Spondoolies.
Do you have any other secret information?
No but do all asic manufacturers announce their future products months in advance?
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No. There is no association between raskul and Spondoolies Tech.
Debatable. His level of fanaticism seems like he has an ulterior motive.
I mean bitmain/bitfury are both great but you don't see people preaching about them.
April 28, 2014, 03:09:32 PM
Thank you.
April 28, 2014, 03:07:32 PM
We are in bitcoinland.
Nobody know what will happen tommorow.
At least I know for sure I will have my 42Th/s SP30 in August .
Nobody know what will happen tommorow.
At least I know for sure I will have my 42Th/s SP30 in August .
Certainly hope it works out better for you than when I "knew" I'd have my 1.2th/s sierra last November.
April 28, 2014, 03:06:03 PM
We are in bitcoinland.
Nobody know what will happen tommorow.
At least I know for sure I will have my 42Th/s SP30 in August .
Really? So you're saying that there is a 0% chance that Spondoolies-Tech will not deliver what they promised in August?
April 28, 2014, 03:04:04 PM
Do you agree that it will be a race of less-consuming gear, or not??
I agree that there will be a race towards more efficient gear, but I vehemently disagree that pre-ordering products 3+ months in advance is required in order to not be left behind.
I have no idea if a SP30 purchased now at 10+ BTC will prove to be a good buy come August because my crystal ball is foggy and the future is uncertain. There are way too many variables to possibly make an informed decision, so you're basically gambling.
So ask yourself, do you feel lucky?
We are in bitcoinland.
Nobody knows what will happen tommorow.
At least I know for sure I will have my 42Th/s SP30 in August .
April 28, 2014, 03:02:20 PM
In actual fact, s1llyn4m3 or whatever he calls himself would be better closing his door and not going out into the world, ever. It would be safer all round.
You can wiggle and squirm raskul, but you will never get off the hook. Your actions bring Spondoolies-Tech into disrepute just by association.
All of us are independent forum members, and we are free to speak our mind on this thread and others. None of us speak for Spond.
You should judge Spond on comments that they make, not comments that independent forum members make.
April 28, 2014, 03:00:08 PM
Do you agree that it will be a race of less-consuming gear, or not??
I agree that there will be a race towards more efficient gear, but I vehemently disagree that pre-ordering products 3+ months in advance is required in order to not be left behind.
I have no idea if a SP30 purchased now at 10+ BTC will prove to be a good buy come August because my crystal ball is foggy and the future is uncertain. There are way too many variables to possibly make an informed decision, so you're basically gambling.
So ask yourself, do you feel lucky?
April 28, 2014, 03:00:04 PM
Do you agree that it will be a race of less-consuming gear, or not??
I agree. But do you agree that we have no idea what the competition will be like in 3-6 months?
I am sure only about Spondoolies.
Do you have any other secret information?
April 28, 2014, 02:59:16 PM
Do you agree that it will be a race of less-consuming gear, or not??
Power consumption is only one variable in an equation. At this time it's not even the most important variable.
April 28, 2014, 02:58:42 PM
Do you agree that it will be a race of less-consuming gear, or not??
I agree. But do you agree that we have no idea what the competition will be like in 3-6 months?
April 28, 2014, 02:57:00 PM
Do you agree that it will be a race of less-consuming gear, or not??
April 28, 2014, 02:53:57 PM
Somehow people just don't get that. We have 60k TH/s hashing at more than 1W/GH right now. When the whole 60k TH/s will go on red we are still making a profit. Small(depending on your farm), but it will be a profit.
The major flaw in your logic is the fact that you think you will be making a "profit" just because the SP30 is earning more than it costs to operate.
In my view, the SP30 won't make a "profit" until it earns back the 10+ BTC it costs to purchase plus all expenses required to run it. Only then will you make a "profit".
April 28, 2014, 02:53:55 PM
This has been so much discussed i'm getting tired of it. Look at this graph: http://bitcoin.sipa.be/growth.png Assuming that you will have 15% increase in difficulty until the end of the year is simply nonsense.
How much money are you making now with your S1s and how much money will you make in 90 days with your S1s and how much will you make in 200 days?
Somehow people just don't get that. We have 60k TH/s hashing at more than 1W/GH right now. When the whole 60k TH/s will go on red we are still making a profit. Small, but it will be a profit.
How much money are you making now with your S1s and how much money will you make in 90 days with your S1s and how much will you make in 200 days?
Somehow people just don't get that. We have 60k TH/s hashing at more than 1W/GH right now. When the whole 60k TH/s will go on red we are still making a profit. Small, but it will be a profit.
6th/s = .4324btc/24hrs atm with straight btc mining, though selectively mining alt coins can get you a better return. 90 days? no idea. 200 days? no idea.
That's the whole point. Nobody knows what the future holds. In august when spondoolies hopes to deliver they won't be competing with s1's, they likely won't even be competing with s2s. They'll be competing with S3s and whatever else the competition can throw out there, but you can't compare to that because it's not available yet. This is the problem with pre-orders. They encourage bad decisions based on misinformation/information vacuum.
April 28, 2014, 02:50:25 PM
Lets inject some reality into this discussion. When I plug the following numbers into the bitcoinwisdom mining profitability calculator, I recover my initial investment after 200 days. In another month, I've made 50 bucks ...
SP30: 6THs, $4500 cost, 0% pool fee, 0 maintenance cost, 15% difficulty increase, $0.1 USD kWh. 2500W, start in 90 days
SP30: 6THs, $4500 cost, 0% pool fee, 0 maintenance cost, 15% difficulty increase, $0.1 USD kWh. 2500W, start in 90 days
This has been so much discussed i'm getting tired of it. Look at this graph: http://bitcoin.sipa.be/growth.png Assuming that you will have 15% increase in difficulty until the end of the year is simply nonsense.
How much money are you making now with your S1s and how much money will you make in 90 days with your S1s and how much will you make in 200 days?
If SP30 is not viable, then NOTHING will.
Somehow people just don't get that. We have 60k TH/s hashing at more than 1W/GH right now. When the whole 60k TH/s will go on red we are still making a profit. Small, but it will be a profit.
If you don't like my numbers, propose some. Some that I can remind you of at Xmas.
Some how people have a hard time understanding that if a customer doesn't have a reasonable expectation of recovering the cost of a SP30 and making a profit commensurate with the risk taken, then the SP30 is not a viable product at the price it is offered.
FWIW, solarian is the guy with S1 machines, not me.
April 28, 2014, 02:46:53 PM
If SP30 is not viable, then NOTHING will.
Now you are starting to get it L)L
The prices on these products are too high.
April 28, 2014, 02:46:12 PM
Lets inject some reality into this discussion. When I plug the following numbers into the bitcoinwisdom mining profitability calculator, I recover my initial investment after 200 days. In another month, I've made 50 bucks ...
SP30: 6THs, $4500 cost, 0% pool fee, 0 maintenance cost, 15% difficulty increase, $0.1 USD kWh. 2500W, start in 90 days
SP30: 6THs, $4500 cost, 0% pool fee, 0 maintenance cost, 15% difficulty increase, $0.1 USD kWh. 2500W, start in 90 days
This has been so much discussed i'm getting tired of it. Look at this graph: http://bitcoin.sipa.be/growth.png Assuming that you will have 15% increase in difficulty until the end of the year is simply nonsense.
How much money are you making now with your S1s and how much money will you make in 90 days with your S1s and how much will you make in 200 days?
If SP30 is not viable, then NOTHING will.
Somehow people just don't get that. We have 60k TH/s hashing at more than 1W/GH right now. When the whole 60k TH/s will go on red we are still making a profit. Small(depending on your farm), but it will be a profit.
April 28, 2014, 02:43:44 PM
If SP30 is not viable, then NOTHING will.
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