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newbie
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Bitcointalk and Dark Moderators


 I have posted a single line message in dark thread in bitcointalk that we have successfully tested IX , and that post and post quoting that post[it was quoted by a DRK supporter] was removed, without any  reason!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. See how they allow all the Fud in SPR , while a single mention of SPR IX is instantly removed.

Also remember banning of Mr. Spread from bcttalk.


I strongly think that a group of/at least one of the moderator supporting DRK has done both things.

I also warn from those strong DRK supporters , who frequently post in SPR thread, their only intention is to damage SPR reputation, even if their posts look like be geniune.


Here is my deleted posts

1.
hey dear DRK fellows, SPR successfuly tested InstantX.

Your point?

It was demonstrated by Evan long ago and had a run on public testnet months ago.  Plus the current implemention was said to be buggy.... good luck with that.

yes i know it. DRK is Always ahead to innovative things. why some guys showing hatred towards your first properly cloned coin. actually SPR makes DRK popular only, SpR use DRK code as base.


This is too funny and another reason to get a better forum.  I was thinking the same thing that it seemed fishy that Mr. Spread was banned for something so stupid yet every "report to moderator" link I pushed on these fudmuffins goes unanswered.  Oh well such is the way of corruption.

Also posted this thing in the spreadcointalk. Even If moderators delete this post, u can talk there
legendary
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Bitcointalk and Dark Moderators


 I have posted a single line message in dark thread in bitcointalk that we have successfully tested IX , and that post and post quoting that post[it was quoted by a DRK supporter] was removed, without any  reason!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. See how they allow all the Fud in SPR , while a single mention of SPR IX is instantly removed.

Also remember banning of Mr. Spread from bcttalk.


I strongly think that a group of/at least one of the moderator supporting DRK has done both things.

I also warn from those strong DRK supporters , who frequently post in SPR thread, their only intention is to damage SPR reputation, even if their posts look like be geniune.


Here is my deleted posts

1.
hey dear DRK fellows, SPR successfuly tested InstantX.

Your point?

It was demonstrated by Evan long ago and had a run on public testnet months ago.  Plus the current implemention was said to be buggy.... good luck with that.

yes i know it. DRK is Always ahead to innovative things. why some guys showing hatred towards your first properly cloned coin. actually SPR makes DRK popular only, SpR use DRK code as base.


This is too funny and another reason to get a better forum.  I was thinking the same thing that it seemed fishy that Mr. Spread was banned for something so stupid yet every "report to moderator" link I pushed on these fudmuffins goes unanswered.  Oh well such is the way of corruption.
newbie
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Bitcointalk and Dark Moderators


 I have posted a single line message in dark thread in bitcointalk that we have successfully tested IX , and that post and post quoting that post[it was quoted by a DRK supporter] was removed, without any  reason!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. See how they allow all the Fud in SPR , while a single mention of SPR IX is instantly removed.

Also remember banning of Mr. Spread from bcttalk.


I strongly think that a group of/at least one of the moderator supporting DRK has done both things.

I also warn from those strong DRK supporters , who frequently post in SPR thread, their only intention is to damage SPR reputation, even if their posts look like be geniune.


Here is my deleted posts

1.
hey dear DRK fellows, SPR successfuly tested InstantX.

Your point?

It was demonstrated by Evan long ago and had a run on public testnet months ago.  Plus the current implemention was said to be buggy.... good luck with that.

yes i know it. DRK is Always ahead to innovative things. why some guys showing hatred towards your first properly cloned coin. actually SPR makes DRK popular only, SpR use DRK code as base.
legendary
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--- ChainWorks Industries ---


Still haven't proven shit about any optimized miners...
Wolf0 is the most shameless person I've ever seen.
Do you want me to make public your pm records between you and your farmer customer ?
How dare you to deny your deal with your customers?
I don't deny your work but I dispise your moral quality.



Yes, please! I want you to! Screenshots, please.

Oh, wait, you haven't yet - because you don't have shit.

Also, I didn't confirm nor deny anything - I said you have no proof of anything.

i have proof ...

here it is - ready? ...

wolf is one of the best devs optimizers here ... i say 'one of' because there are many here that have done a great deal for the crypto community ...

the likes of sp and djm and tsiv and klaust ... the list goes on ...

does wolf have private miners - yes ... he has NEVER denied that - nor have ANY OTHER dev denied that they work on the optimizations and sell it to those willing to pay for it ...

are there pools - yes ... will there be more pools and coins - most likely ... will this stop - no ... do we need to trouble ourselves with all this as if our lives depended on it? - HELL NO! ...

most developers - including wolf fyi - have provided ALL of us with the tools to mine and accrue more coin than we normally would have ... why? BECAUSE! thats why ...

just because they can ... they never asked for anything in the beginning - and due to the lack of donations on the community as a whole - they are NOW asking for a PAID way of providing for this community that they are STILL a part of ...

its THEIR CODE - so the devs can do what THEY WANT with it ...

now i know that many of you 'trolls' ( a bad word used to describe those that revel in mockery as i think the word 'imbeciles' ( yes - look it up in the dictionary or on line - its not that hard ) is more apt a word than any ) think that you are doing yourselves a great justice by continuing what you do ... fact is - you're not ...

i usually don't comment on such things and don't directly invite myself in on such meaningless shit fights ... but the length of this forum and the garbage that is STILL continuing is beyond me ...

i have RESPECT for those that provide for the community - i have RESPECT for those that are entrepreneurial in their efforts - i have RESPECT full stop ...

something that is lacking in this industry unfortunately ...

no matter what the response will be - ive said my bit so ill be back trauling and DONATING to these SAME devs that are copping the shit - and mining and joining pools - and making coins - and making money ...

why? BEACUSE - thats why! ... imbeciles! ...

as a side note ... wolf - u and the other devs are awesome ... keep up the great work ...

#crysx
legendary
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Spreadnode ...
 


'spreadnodes' here is a curious case.

His words, taken individually, might be valid English, but when he strings them together they amalgamate into a poison soup of doublethink and gibberish as he waves the wrong end of every available stick about and seems confused as to why nobody is applauding his amazing display.

It's like that uncanny valley feeling of talking to an estate agent or a politician - you just know that under the surface mimicry there's really nothing recognizably human there at all.
legendary
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coins101 on market rigging:
Because there is price manipulation, I think there should be a significant market discount to the market price.

coins101 explaining that otoh is currently rigging the DRK price:
otoh has a put a price floor on DRK at 0.007. He has open orders around 400-500 BTC DRK on finex and 100 BTC on Cryptsy.

One can only conclude that DRK should thus also be available at a significant discount to market price, and wonder why coins101 is not in the DRK thread demanding this?

Believe it or not, I have actually thought about it. But he is a buyer on the open market, where supply is pretty liquid.

SPR doesn't have liquidity. It never has; mainly because it's been manipulated from the start.

That actually is a barrier to progress. To get an army of master nodes, you need liquidity. Otherwise you just get pockets of master node operators. Solo mining for decentralisation on the one hand; anonymity centralisation on the other  Huh

Trying to force the price up on a project that has no brand value and is not yet trusted is counter productive. If the early adopters want to hodl tight, you might as well wait 9 months for the coin supply to increase to allow a market to develop before releasing master nodes.

You know as well as I do that Darkcoin's price has been heavily manipulated throughout most of its life, just as it's being manipulated now - I have many, many posts in the DRK thread commenting on the obvious constant bot manipulation on Mintpal and elsewhere.

Crypto markets are the same as any other, those with more resources have an advantage over those with less. Your complaints against Spread could be applied to anything else.

Spread isn't waiting 9 months for anything, buy in or go cry into your panties somewhere else.  Grin

legendary
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Still haven't proven shit about any optimized miners...
Wolf0 is the most shameless person I've ever seen.
Do you want me to make public your pm records between you and your farmer customer ?
How dare you to deny your deal with your customers?
I don't deny your work but I dispise your moral quality.
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1000
coins101 on market rigging:
Because there is price manipulation, I think there should be a significant market discount to the market price.

coins101 explaining that otoh is currently rigging the DRK price:
otoh has a put a price floor on DRK at 0.007. He has open orders around 400-500 BTC DRK on finex and 100 BTC on Cryptsy.

One can only conclude that DRK should thus also be available at a significant discount to market price, and wonder why coins101 is not in the DRK thread demanding this?

Believe it or not, I have actually thought about it. But he is a buyer on the open market, where supply is pretty liquid.

SPR doesn't have liquidity. It never has; mainly because it's been manipulated from the start.

That actually is a barrier to progress. To get an army of master nodes, you need liquidity. Otherwise you just get pockets of master node operators. Solo mining for decentralisation on the one hand; anonymity centralisation on the other  Huh

Trying to force the price up on a project that has no brand value and is not yet trusted is counter productive. If the early adopters want to hodl tight, you might as well wait 9 months for the coin supply to increase to allow a market to develop before releasing master nodes.
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The whole point of projects coming under attack is to see if they can survive. That's also the nature of the bitcoin code and mining.

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but seriously, this project at this stage is overpriced. it really should be closer to 0.0001000

I have no issues with a coin coming "under attack" and am currently of the opinion that this one happens to be one of the few coins that can stand on its own merits now and hopefully in the future. But the unethical practice of using sock puppets instead of your "regular " BCT account to spread lies and disinformation cannot be defended and should not be supported by this forum through its inaction. If one believes in something they have to say, have the balls to risk the rep of your "invested" avatar when saying it. That simple practice would increase the value of this forum immeasurably.

Like bitcoin, price is really ancillary at the moment and will hopefully take care of itself one way or the other based on future development, practicality and adoption.

you can keep believing that socket puppet accounts are responsible for everything that is wrong with this project, if that is what helps you sleep better.

spr is still x3 overpriced.

SPR is difficult to get, having large amounts of SPR will allow for masternodes, so the supply of SPR will greatly decrease as time goes on. If you know anything about basic economics then you will realize that a low supply and a high demand creates a high price.

An actual use for the coin might create demand but there isn't any use for spreadcoin or 99% of all the other worthless altcoins that slowly fade away replaced by some other cool coin with blah blah blah features.

Having masternodes does nothing.  Anyone can now clone darkcoin or spreadcoin and have a masternode network.  So what?  Darkcoin is a year old, has masternodes, and has lost significant value since masternodes even though a significant amount of darkcoin is committed to masternodes. 

Explain how masternodes will do anything for spreadcoins value?  What are the masternodes going to do?  Will it be another repeat of darkcoin with months and months of testing and then a bunch of people pumping it after some alleged progress?  Oh wait, that's exactly what the plan is.  Complete with darkcoin defectors trying to recreate their last pump like they did with darkcoin.  They made a bunch of money and left a bunch of bagholders.

Comparing basic economics to an altcoin is completely ridiculous.  Low supply of something that does nothing is worth nothing.  It's not like were talking about something tangible like a collectors car, diamonds, gold, etc...   We're talking about one of thousands of altcoins all claiming to be the next bitcoin but unlike bitcoin can't be used for anything.

 


It's funny to see this type of claim of someone on a forum that deals with crypto currencies. Utimamente when I speak of crypto currencies is what I hear from the start, but this response only comes from people who do not know what it is about the world crypto (pre-concept).
legendary
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spreadcoin.info
i also want to say about price and volume. remember: rome wasn't built in a day. just an example Wink: https://web.archive.org/web/20110203031942/http://mtgox.com/

LMAO! Thanks for the laugh.  Grin

Yep, that's the way of the world. Unimpressive things turn into giant forces of nature that really stir things up.

100 Million years ago just a small insignificant rodent, now a highly developed ape that drives cars and interacts with computing machines...
legendary
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coins101 on market rigging:
Because there is price manipulation, I think there should be a significant market discount to the market price.

coins101 explaining that otoh is currently rigging the DRK price:
otoh has a put a price floor on DRK at 0.007. He has open orders around 400-500 BTC DRK on finex and 100 BTC on Cryptsy.

One can only conclude that DRK should thus also be available at a significant discount to market price, and wonder why coins101 is not in the DRK thread demanding this?
newbie
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i also want to say about price and volume. remember: rome wasn't built in a day. just an example Wink: https://web.archive.org/web/20110203031942/http://mtgox.com/
newbie
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Spreadnode isn't hard to get.  You can buy it on numerous exchanges.  The thing is that nobody's buying.  The volume is just a couple people selling back and forth to themselves.  That's why people like bittrex.  You can sell into your own buy orders and buy from your own sell orders.  Nothing but fake trades for some time now.  

spreadcoin is only hard to get if you try to mine it.  It wasn't hard in the beginning and solo only was a great concept.  Unfortunately that concept evaporated with a couple large farms, private optimized miner and private pools.  Even a six GPU rig that many people mine with and are able to accumulate a few coins by mining on pools can't compete with the hash rates from the farms using optimized miners.  Blocks are few and far between and mining spreadcoin is a waste of time and electricity.

The game is rigged in a very bad way and that fact is coming to light.  

Having a low supply of a worthless altcoin will not increase demand.  An actual use for the coin might create demand but there isn't any use for spreadcoin or 99% of all the other worthless altcoins that slowly fade away replaced by some other cool coin with blah blah blah features.

Having masternodes does nothing.  Anyone can now clone darkcoin or spreadcoin and have a masternode network.  So what?  Darkcoin is a year old, has masternodes, and has lost significant value since masternodes even though a significant amount of darkcoin is committed to masternodes.  

Explain how masternodes will do anything for spreadcoins value?  What are the masternodes going to do?  Will it be another repeat of darkcoin with months and months of testing and then a bunch of people pumping it after some alleged progress?  Oh wait, that's exactly what the plan is.  Complete with darkcoin defectors trying to recreate their last pump like they did with darkcoin.  They made a bunch of money and left a bunch of bagholders.

Comparing basic economics to an altcoin is completely ridiculous.  Low supply of something that does nothing is worth nothing.  It's not like were talking about something tangible like a collectors car, diamonds, gold, etc...   We're talking about one of thousands of altcoins all claiming to be the next bitcoin but unlike bitcoin can't be used for anything.

ok-ok, man. you are right. we all agree with you. but if you don't like the coin why don't you just leave the topic? once your said you thoughts we got it. no need to repeat it.
hero member
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Bye guys. Off to watch some Basketball for now. #Spreadcoin Spread the word.
legendary
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snip....
LOL, I was reading this like: "Does he actually think he's making any sense?" Then I refreshed. Grin

so I win!

Accuracy required? No.

Shits and giggles required? Yes.

legendary
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Bounty: 400 SPR

For shits and giggles, if someone good at math would like to do an analysis to find the most efficient determination of how many Darkcoin would have to be sold and how many Spreadcoin would have to be bought (with the total BTC that would have to be spent for them) for SPR to pass Darkcoin in price, in a manner that at least makes sense as I understand there are many variables, I'll pay you 400 SPR.

For example, if there is a 1000 DRK buy wall then selling into that isn't going to be efficient.  So 0 DRK would need to be sold but XXX,XXX SPR would have to be bought.

Or the most efficient means to do it would be to sell 23,450 DRK and buy 114,500 SPR because of current and anticipated buy and sell walls.

Not easy math I understand.  It's far beyond my capabilities.

That's the fighting spirit.

The visible order book on Bittrex is 4.8BTC, which gets you 12,587 SPR.  

To match the DRK price you need the highest ask price (shown) to be 18x greater than it is 0.0192554    > 0.00869. If someone sells 226,566 coins at that price, you beat the DRK price /per coin. But that only gets you a market cap of ~$3.3m.  Another x3 dump of coins, say 700k SPR might get you to a marketcap of $10m. You're looking at ~350BTC.  Done gradually forcing up the price, you might need 5x that, say 2000 BTC.

otoh has a put a price floor on DRK at 0.007. He has open orders around 400-500 BTC DRK on finex and 100 BTC on Cryptsy. Depending on whether he wants to keep topping up, your're looking at 600-1,000 BTC of selling.

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LOL, I was reading this like: "Does he actually think he's making any sense?" Then I refreshed. Grin
newbie
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The whole point of projects coming under attack is to see if they can survive. That's also the nature of the bitcoin code and mining.

edit

but seriously, this project at this stage is overpriced. it really should be closer to 0.0001000

I have no issues with a coin coming "under attack" and am currently of the opinion that this one happens to be one of the few coins that can stand on its own merits now and hopefully in the future. But the unethical practice of using sock puppets instead of your "regular " BCT account to spread lies and disinformation cannot be defended and should not be supported by this forum through its inaction. If one believes in something they have to say, have the balls to risk the rep of your "invested" avatar when saying it. That simple practice would increase the value of this forum immeasurably.

Like bitcoin, price is really ancillary at the moment and will hopefully take care of itself one way or the other based on future development, practicality and adoption.

you can keep believing that socket puppet accounts are responsible for everything that is wrong with this project, if that is what helps you sleep better.

spr is still x3 overpriced.

SPR is difficult to get, having large amounts of SPR will allow for masternodes, so the supply of SPR will greatly decrease as time goes on. If you know anything about basic economics then you will realize that a low supply and a high demand creates a high price.

Spreadnode isn't hard to get.  You can buy it on numerous exchanges.  The thing is that nobody's buying.  The volume is just a couple people selling back and forth to themselves.  That's why people like bittrex.  You can sell into your own buy orders and buy from your own sell orders.  Nothing but fake trades for some time now. 

spreadcoin is only hard to get if you try to mine it.  It wasn't hard in the beginning and solo only was a great concept.  Unfortunately that concept evaporated with a couple large farms, private optimized miner and private pools.  Even a six GPU rig that many people mine with and are able to accumulate a few coins by mining on pools can't compete with the hash rates from the farms using optimized miners.  Blocks are few and far between and mining spreadcoin is a waste of time and electricity.

The game is rigged in a very bad way and that fact is coming to light. 

Having a low supply of a worthless altcoin will not increase demand.  An actual use for the coin might create demand but there isn't any use for spreadcoin or 99% of all the other worthless altcoins that slowly fade away replaced by some other cool coin with blah blah blah features.

Having masternodes does nothing.  Anyone can now clone darkcoin or spreadcoin and have a masternode network.  So what?  Darkcoin is a year old, has masternodes, and has lost significant value since masternodes even though a significant amount of darkcoin is committed to masternodes. 

Explain how masternodes will do anything for spreadcoins value?  What are the masternodes going to do?  Will it be another repeat of darkcoin with months and months of testing and then a bunch of people pumping it after some alleged progress?  Oh wait, that's exactly what the plan is.  Complete with darkcoin defectors trying to recreate their last pump like they did with darkcoin.  They made a bunch of money and left a bunch of bagholders.

Comparing basic economics to an altcoin is completely ridiculous.  Low supply of something that does nothing is worth nothing.  It's not like were talking about something tangible like a collectors car, diamonds, gold, etc...   We're talking about one of thousands of altcoins all claiming to be the next bitcoin but unlike bitcoin can't be used for anything.

 
hero member
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My plan for marketing spreadcoin once features are implemented. Im going to work hard to make this happen.

http://spreadcointalk.org/index.php?topic=61.new#new
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1000
Bounty: 400 SPR

For shits and giggles, if someone good at math would like to do an analysis to find the most efficient determination of how many Darkcoin would have to be sold and how many Spreadcoin would have to be bought (with the total BTC that would have to be spent for them) for SPR to pass Darkcoin in price, in a manner that at least makes sense as I understand there are many variables, I'll pay you 400 SPR.

For example, if there is a 1000 DRK buy wall then selling into that isn't going to be efficient.  So 0 DRK would need to be sold but XXX,XXX SPR would have to be bought.

Or the most efficient means to do it would be to sell 23,450 DRK and buy 114,500 SPR because of current and anticipated buy and sell walls.

Not easy math I understand.  It's far beyond my capabilities.

That's the fighting spirit.

The visible order book on Bittrex is 4.8BTC, which gets you 12,587 SPR.  

To match the DRK price you need the highest ask price (shown) to be 18x greater than it is 0.0192554    > 0.00869. If someone sells 226,566 coins at that price, you beat the DRK price /per coin. But that only gets you a market cap of ~$3.3m.  Another x3 dump of coins, say 700k SPR might get you to a marketcap of $10m. You're looking at ~350BTC.  Done gradually forcing up the price, you might need 5x that, say 2000 BTC.

otoh has a put a price floor on DRK at 0.007. He has open orders around 400-500 BTC DRK on finex and 100 BTC on Cryptsy. Depending on whether he wants to keep topping up, your're looking at 600-1,000 BTC of selling.

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