Topic: [ANN] SuperNET NXT asset 12071612744977229797, SUPERNET KMD assetchain in summer - page 90. (Read 736806 times)

Only small part of SuperNET is about investing in coins. The main part is the dozens of devs that are already actively working on the many projects, each with specific goals and monetization. All of that combines into SuperNET

James

yes 2% per year if you pay $100 per asset
from a cost basis of $4 it would be 50% per year, but probably more significant would be the 2500% capital gain. So even if it took 2 years to ramp up to this, that is back to back 500% per year compounded.

This is just a hypothetical and this all hinges on getting to the $2 per year dividend stream. If this is achieved, then these projections are certainly quite reasonable.

These are the same economics as any high tech company in a high growth industry, except the overhead for SuperNET is quite low and the profit margins quite high.

James

Return 2%/year

No, i would recommend to everybody to cash out the UNITY from bter after received the Pangae asset.

Hey,anyone receive their Pangea on bter yet?

No offense, but what you just wrote is exactly what is wrong with the altcoin scene...

This constant "*** coin is dead!" because you don't like it or the price is really low right now compared to a few months ago is a sign for this omnipresent pump and dump mentality, which I find rather disgusting.

As long as a coin has developers that constantly try to work and improve its technology then it is by definition not dead. The price of a coin doesn't matter.

And that's why I like SuperNET so much, trying to unite everyones technology in one big network.

Monero is dead, it was a last season thing. Why talking about monero? 

Superresistant is a big SuperNET supporter as well as a big Monero supporter. I believe he runs his own Monero mining pool as well.

I expect the initial revenue generated to come mainly from the SuperNET related services that are being worked on right now like all the assets under the Privatebet banner: NeoDICE, Pangea Poker, Omnigames ect. In these cases the money certainly won't be coming from nowhere, as each asset has it's own clear path to profitability once things get on track.

if you guys are looking for applications for the supernet, should check out GAIA coin. Maybe the app store that was released yesterday would be a good fit. Gaia platform has some disruptive tech that would work well in the SuperNet IMHO.

I don't get it. That would be impossible. The money has to come from somewhere.

It sounds like they're taking your money and investing in coins/stuff, which is a good idea. The can research coin devs, buy undervalued coins, and sell to pay out dividends later once price rises. There's lots of money to be made. They may also be looking to make popular apps/websites that require coins to use. As long as they keep making money there will be tons of dividends to pay out.

I'm into this idea that they have going on. The superNET is a nice bit of technology to hide behind and make it all work. They can then start getting coin devs together and build a team of 20+ devs.

This is all a pretty exciting idea.

jl777,
any plan to chancecoin after the supernet accept it,
it is so quiet about that.

Hello patmast3r, nice to see you here. Seems we have an increasingly broad cross section of crypto.
No one from Monero though?
@jl777 thanks for the analysis

Does this sound too good to be true only to me ?
It's like we bought a little money making machine that sits on a blockchain  and spits out money every month without the holders doing anything
I'm waiting for the FEDs to kick down doors any moment now

Realistically the biggest dividends in the short term will be asset dividends. There are 75000 each of omnigames, Jay and SNN in the pipeline, so just a bit less than 1 asset per 11 UNITY assets. With an average market price of 30 NXT for these, 100 UNITY would get 11 * 30 * 3 = 990 NXT worth of dividends. Timeframe is totally unpredictable, but with the market price of about 180 NXT this is 1/18'th > 5% return just from the dividends.

Keep in mind that 90%+ of UNITY value is backed by the BTC, NXT and other crypto it holds and it uses this to put up buywalls to allow for liquidity. Currently there is 2 million NXT worth of buywalls at 160 NXT, one in NXT AE and one in BTER

I target a risk profile of 20% on the downside and X% on the upside. If you hold onto the asset dividends and they grow, then the yields are better of course. I didnt charge anything for the revenue side of SuperNET as it was sold at NAV, eg. liquidation value and this is why it has held its value throughout the bear market.

James

There is a premium for high growth tech stocks due to the fact that growth is non-linear. We see PE in triple digits. Now Price Dividend ratios are used for companies that have dividends, typically not your high growth tech stocks, which might not even have earnings yet.

During high growth, Price Sales and the rate of revenue growth is estimated as to what sort of growth path it is on
Then earnings are generated and Price Earnings ratios are used, during the early high growth days triple digits, dropping to double digits, even single digits for low to negative growth industries.

Then there are the companies whose value is based on their dividends (remember earnings are accumulated inside the company and not 100% dividended out, especially due to taxes) and the Price Dividend ratio is typically double or more of the price Sales ratio

Money is money and an investment will be evaluated based on rational ROI projections. Granted during the early years a lower ratio will be in place due to the risk factor of crypto in general, but compensating that is the growth factor. In these scenarios of thousands of USD per day of dividends (not just earnings), the growth rate will have to be astronomical as we are starting from a baseline of 0.

If anything I would be surprised at a dividend ratio of 50 as that is more a floor, during the exponential growth years it could easily be 10x that as the revenues would be a small fraction of what it will be. That is what I meant when I said "when the market realizes", so if when we are doing $500 per day of dividends, but have 500 people in slack and 50 projects in the pipeline, it could get a 500:1 dividend ratio just based on people's expectations.

I think google during the early years had "crazy" high PE ratios and the people who didnt understand the coming growth of the internet thought they were overpaying.

James

People in crypto expect a higher return, but not neccessarily higher dividends. As long as the overall return (dividends+price growth) is enough, everyone is happy. That said, the return that the market imples by pricing assets in a certain way suggests that the needed return is much higher than normal stock environment (~8-12%).

Yes, I mean that expectation of returns is an order of magnitude greater in crypto, so I doubt the same ratios apply here. Not sure what a reasonable estimate would be, though.

Are you saying that crypto people tend to have higher expectations in terms of profit so we would need a higher earning per share to reach a price of $100 per share?

I guess it makes sense and this could very well be the case. It's just crazy that pretty much everything going on with SuperNET has never been done before so it's all just a guess. Makes it pretty exciting.