tagbond/all,
Is there any value in getting TAG removed from the purgatory list: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/list-of-all-cryptocoins-134179
Saw it and just thought I'd mention it.
Topic: [ANN] TagCoin - Multi Token Wallet and Trading Platform - page 58. (Read 301292 times)
I'm going to make a comment regarding the issues we are having. Do not take this as being directed at anyone or anything. I just want to assuage the masses.
Yes we are forking. Yes, orphans are going to happen and people on certain pools are going to lose coin. But it is 100% factual that the network will sort itself out. As I'm typing this we're all on the same page again.
This earlier in the week I was a bit skeptical about whether or not the TAG network is healthy. After the numerous forks, and orphans I've had on Tagmining, I was getting a bit ticked off. But each fork we had corrected itself over time and everyone ended up on the same page. This "self-healing" of the network, through the mining pools' support, have proven to me that I can stop worrying about the forks as much as I thought I had to. I slept well last night knowing the only issue I needed to worry about at yesterday was the fact that my main drainage line to the septic tank is clogged, or the septic tank is full, making it impossible to use water in my house right now. So no worries about the crypto world, and I slept like a baby!
Mark and the TAG development team are working on the fix. I'm sure it will put an end to a lot, if not all(I'm banking on all), of this.
So let's just ride all this out and laugh it off years from now when TAG rewards are used on every continent in the world
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(just my $0.02 on all this)
-Fuse
Yes we are forking. Yes, orphans are going to happen and people on certain pools are going to lose coin. But it is 100% factual that the network will sort itself out. As I'm typing this we're all on the same page again.
This earlier in the week I was a bit skeptical about whether or not the TAG network is healthy. After the numerous forks, and orphans I've had on Tagmining, I was getting a bit ticked off. But each fork we had corrected itself over time and everyone ended up on the same page. This "self-healing" of the network, through the mining pools' support, have proven to me that I can stop worrying about the forks as much as I thought I had to. I slept well last night knowing the only issue I needed to worry about at yesterday was the fact that my main drainage line to the septic tank is clogged, or the septic tank is full, making it impossible to use water in my house right now. So no worries about the crypto world, and I slept like a baby!
Mark and the TAG development team are working on the fix. I'm sure it will put an end to a lot, if not all(I'm banking on all), of this.
So let's just ride all this out and laugh it off years from now when TAG rewards are used on every continent in the world
.(just my $0.02 on all this)
-Fuse
Right now the explorer shows "no block found" for almost 9 hours, for blocks 29414 through to 29605.
2014-01-16 09:21:32 29609 4b7de2f60e38b5d26e6993c21e80bfd4a34356d20b17789018288f387be20708 489 2
2014-01-16 09:20:28 29608 159f3460bfcaf332e46be2e62079c089d0378971edb72936fb693f6d6858156f 915 4
2014-01-16 09:18:12 29607 cf9966f49800636b5d9018a63e63e5a0fd653af5d174eb005ed1ca4c6d985cef 488 2
2014-01-16 09:17:46 29606 a20b3a74efdb32be6ea208e6ac4078834b9a08dd965a1b79c79f6932f19d4732 947 4
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Edit: Looks like that huge run of POW blocks I commented on earlier have disappeared off the explorer, and prior to the <9 hour gap blocks 29370 to 29413 are all POS.
I've got my own thoughts on what I think the problem is but I'll keep them to myself this time. Looking forward to the fix
2014-01-16 09:21:32 29609 4b7de2f60e38b5d26e6993c21e80bfd4a34356d20b17789018288f387be20708 489 2
2014-01-16 09:20:28 29608 159f3460bfcaf332e46be2e62079c089d0378971edb72936fb693f6d6858156f 915 4
2014-01-16 09:18:12 29607 cf9966f49800636b5d9018a63e63e5a0fd653af5d174eb005ed1ca4c6d985cef 488 2
2014-01-16 09:17:46 29606 a20b3a74efdb32be6ea208e6ac4078834b9a08dd965a1b79c79f6932f19d4732 947 4
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Edit: Looks like that huge run of POW blocks I commented on earlier have disappeared off the explorer, and prior to the <9 hour gap blocks 29370 to 29413 are all POS.
I've got my own thoughts on what I think the problem is but I'll keep them to myself this time. Looking forward to the fix
Good question. 3/4 of an hour ago the blockchain that botpool is on was 78 blocks behind the chain tagmining is on. The difference is now only 6 blocks... To complicate matters the block explorer is nearly 100 blocks behind.
so what is the right chain now??
Question? Say botpool ends up being on the losing fork and the last several hours worth of coins become invalid/orphaned, because botpool only has 10 confirms does that give miners who think there may be a problem time to cash out their coins for something else before the shit hits the fan?
What happens then?
What happens then?
A very major fork is happening... nearly 50 blocks between... TAG and BOT on something like 29434 and Hash and IT on something like 29475... explorer at 29434... Mark needs to suspend TAG until they have this fixed... somebody is going to end up with a lot of orphans.
Anyone notice Botpool instantly jumped from ~800 worker to more than 1000 instantly?
If you are on the same chain or mine at BOT I highly suggest you rethink that decision if you want to keep your mined TAG.
~BCX~
What a mess, thanks for the update BCX. Fingers crossed Tagmining is on the correct chain.
I just noticed that botpool only require 10 confirms!!!
and countless POW blocks all in a row.
Ouch... that seriously hurts... no good...
Block explorer is still back at 27438... so how does it really work... just a rhetorical question... not for you to answer Fuse.
Block explorer is still back at 27438... so how does it really work... just a rhetorical question... not for you to answer Fuse.
A very major fork is happening... nearly 50 blocks between... TAG and BOT on something like 29434 and Hash and IT on something like 29475... explorer at 29434... Mark needs to suspend TAG until they have this fixed... somebody is going to end up with a lot of orphans.
Yep, we took the brunt of the orphans on this one. Working on a resync right now.
-Fuse
A very major fork is happening... nearly 50 blocks between... TAG and BOT on something like 29434 and Hash and IT on something like 29475... explorer at 29434... Mark needs to suspend TAG until they have this fixed... somebody is going to end up with a lot of orphans.
Fuse,
While you have the ear of Mark and the team... can you recommend a built-in difficulty and netowrk hash-rate monitor for the wallet... it would be helpful to miners and pool operators to confirm the status of the network and allocate hash power.
While you have the ear of Mark and the team... can you recommend a built-in difficulty and netowrk hash-rate monitor for the wallet... it would be helpful to miners and pool operators to confirm the status of the network and allocate hash power.
Dabs let me know after you setup your mining stuff, I would like to follow someone I know and trust to possibly help me out.
Sure thing. This is a long term gamble. And the suspense and thrill is going to take several months. Probably better than playing dice. I am hoping since it's supposed to be a "ready-to-mine-asic" that I just plug it in and turn it on.
PD3 is coming in a few days... So it'll look like the old PD soon. 
Does your site have some sort of "investment" option?
@vesperwillow, you got PM. hehe. Let's hope they deliver! I ordered a Viper. Next one will be a Fibonacci or Flower, unless Gridseed has any for sale.
Woot, someone beat me to the dice game. I've always wanted to put one up.
As much of a good thing a "dice" site is, I can't believe the Blatant ripoff of PD. Thats just not right, imo. Change the damn visuals.
Yeah, Mr. Hazard, make it look like either the old PD, or JD (DD).
The Devil Has Been Summoned!
Looks like Botpool is the source of the issues here.
Time to take out Botpool it seems.
~BCX~
Did someone say his name 3 times... quick, go back and check!
Honestly though, BCX... Botpool is just trying to push through the issues as much as the rest of us. I think there was some incorrect speculation with regards to were the blame lies. Now, if you want someone to blame for the crazy difficulty spikes... I'm pretty sure we all know where the blame lies there.
But I beg you to go easy with the legitimate community members and pools. As much as we've been concerned about Botpool's hashrate, I think they are really trying to do the right thing with the pool.
-Fuse
EDIT- Also, I can, with almost 100% certainty, say that the forks and orphans are not a result of one pool's hashrate, or even the difficulty fluctuations like I had thought. I will not go into specifics, as it is not my place to say, but I have discussed the issue with Mark, and he and his developers have identified the cause and are working towards the resolution. I will put my rep on the line and say that I believe the next patch will fix our issues.
Woot, someone beat me to the dice game. I've always wanted to put one up.
Other than Botpool, anyone else out of sync with Hashfaster and tagmining? We seem to be ahead of botpool.... again.
With such hashrate it feels like mining ltc in early days. 
Don't sure will it be worth like ltc.
Don't sure will it be worth like ltc. Jump to: