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Topic: [ANN] UBIC:The cryptocurrency providing UBI for the masses using the E-Passport - page 2. (Read 18227 times)

jr. member
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what about Passports from Brazil, Russia, India, Korea, Argentinia, Nigeria? I guess they all have likely less secure standards no matter that they are PKD-Participants?... What if you introduce currencies for each of them anyway, on the condition that their registered passports get only ubi when  ubic-participants holding secure passports validate and trust those registered accounts manually? Validation could mean approving how long those documents are legit and approving that the person on the passports picture was in private contact with them? So a participant for example from Russia would have a harder time to join and would have to ask for private validation and more intrusive private KYC in a telegram-chanel or discord-chanel, and would receive only UBIC when s/he is trusted by a legit UBIC-account (holding a passport of the current 28 allowed Countries). Trust could be limited to a few or even just one trust-connection each legit UBIC-Participant so that noone is able to trust multiple sybils.

Something like that could open up UBIC to a lot of additional participants?

Theoretically, all passports that follow the ICAO DOC 9303 standard and it's recommendations can join UBIC.
It is just that the implementation is moving forward slowly in some countries and some haven't done it right yet. This year we were able to add Iceland, Hong Kong and Spain and I expect that by 2030 a large majority of countries will be UBIC compatible. There are also a lot of other tasks that need to be done in the core and have a higher priority.
One of them is to get the voting done so that it will become possible to elect validator nodes. This will make UBIC truely decentralized which it isn't yet.
newbie
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So 5 Certifications neccessary for a "sans papers"-Account, but only 1 or two Certifications neccessary for a less secure but still legit E-Passport-Account. I love that idea Wink

 
I released version 0.1.8 and I highly recommend to upgrade to this version.

i did update my node yesterday. most respect for your work!

Another blasphemic idea: if it is possible to run all those different passport currencys on top of ubic blockchain, wouldnt it be also possible to run one additional "sans papiers" ubic currency on that blockchain too, low level security just with for example recaptcha / email /( mobile, but that costs something)? You can use the wallet and trade ubic without having to register passport, right? We know that Sybil Attacker can fake thousands of accounts and try to harvest such a currency, they would most likely do. But what if that nonsafe currency trades free against passport currency anyway? Wouldnt it have a free market value higher than zero just for engaging new people without passports or for engaging people who care extremly for their anonymity, by a faktor x lower, but still with value because it gives you a sense of beeing part of something? And you can still level up to real passport (and probably faktor X0.000 higher ubi) if you like?

I had in mind the idea of creating a hybrid solution that would combine a web of trust with the use of the current E-Passport approach.
Under this scheme every E-passport holder would be able to certify 3 other people. If someone gets 5 certifications he would get a UBI too.
newbie
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what about Passports from Brazil, Russia, India, Korea, Argentinia, Nigeria? I guess they all have likely less secure standards no matter that they are PKD-Participants?... What if you introduce currencies for each of them anyway, on the condition that their registered passports get only ubi when  ubic-participants holding secure passports validate and trust those registered accounts manually? Validation could mean approving how long those documents are legit and approving that the person on the passports picture was in private contact with them? So a participant for example from Russia would have a harder time to join and would have to ask for private validation and more intrusive private KYC in a telegram-chanel or discord-chanel, and would receive only UBIC when s/he is trusted by a legit UBIC-account (holding a passport of the current 28 allowed Countries). Trust could be limited to a few or even just one trust-connection each legit UBIC-Participant so that noone is able to trust multiple sybils.

Something like that could open up UBIC to a lot of additional participants?
jr. member
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UHK and UES have now activated.
Make sure to run version 0.3.1
jr. member
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newbie
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I would like to understand what makes the difference for you regarding those 61 pkd - members: https://www.icao.int/Security/FAL/PKD/Pages/ICAO-PKDParticipants.aspx
Is there some security issue that makes some of those PKDParticipants  infeasible for ubic?

As of November 2019 that list has grown to 70 pkd-members. Will ubic soon include other pkd-members as well?
jr. member
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This is how the iOS app will look like
newbie
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Great, looking forward to it!  Smiley

Good news! UBIC will soon support Spanish passports issued after July 2016.
Same for passports from Hong Kong issued after July 2019.
jr. member
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Good news! UBIC will soon support Spanish passports issued after July 2016.
Same for passports from Hong Kong issued after July 2019.
jr. member
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So now the NFC passport reader is on the app store https://apps.apple.com/app/id1481019012?fbclid=IwAR0MMnZliJHbCA3BgNPtI2YRjwWxioR9kVqPibwvW-B0clwNoPQh1KLba5A

Would be nice if some people could test it and write me back if they find a bug.
jr. member
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I was able to submit a passport reader app on the app store and it was accepted but isn't visible on the app store yet.
I am confident a UBIC wallet for iOS is possible in the near future.
jr. member
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I just released version 3.3 of the UBIC Wallet for android on the play store. I don't know however how to trigger a new release on F-DROID Huh
This version improves the registration process, shows pending transactions and has some UI improvements

Play store link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=network.ubic.ubic
newbie
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I imagine a opinion poll on top of UBIC, where people can pseudonymously cast a reliable vote for example on future presidental candidates - or on the question: brexit yes or no.

It would create for the first time reliable internet polls - those on top of ubic cant be tricked that easy using bots or fake identity - and cant be faked by the instance itself that started the internet poll question in the first place.

People just need to register to ubic and every casted vote is expressed in a tiny transaction to a burning address, which is read out by the app as a vote for or against something, whatever question was asked.

Regarding anonymity against the state: people wont care too much about it if it comes to topics like brexit or presidency.
newbie
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Thumbs up for Andrew Yangs first appearance at democratic debate in a few hours!
jr. member
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correct me if i am wrong but i guess your going to create that ios13-NFC-passport-reader as standalone-app first because you can do it and such a thing doesnt exist yet - without ubic in mind but open for everyone?

that kind of app might probably have a exponential higher userbase, i imagine 1.000+ or even 10.000+ downloads within few month after release, no matter that a few dozend competitors will produce similar apps as well.

What if you link ubic directly or build-in a link into that app to a webspace where people can find and discuss all known applications that use NFC-E-Passports at that time? That would for sure be the brexit-app in the first place, but could as well link to UBIC - and content could be build out continously?



This is indeed my plan. I already have an app like this on the play store with 10k+ installs although it isn't advertising for UBIC yet.
Link here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=bondi.nfcPassportReader.jan.mrtd2
newbie
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correct me if i am wrong but i guess your going to create that ios13-NFC-passport-reader as standalone-app first because you can do it and such a thing doesnt exist yet - without ubic in mind but open for everyone?

that kind of app might probably have a exponential higher userbase, i imagine 1.000+ or even 10.000+ downloads within few month after release, no matter that a few dozend competitors will produce similar apps as well.

What if you link ubic directly or build-in a link into that app to a webspace where people can find and discuss all known applications that use NFC-E-Passports at that time? That would for sure be the brexit-app in the first place, but could as well link to UBIC - and content could be build out continously?

jr. member
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Looks like there are a lot of people that want to use the new NFC capabilities of iOS13 to do something with the ePassport.
Nice to see that this technology is gaining traction.

I guess your ios13-ubic-app is allready in the pipeline? Smiley

It is indeed ;-)
This September will be an exciting time!
newbie
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Looks like there are a lot of people that want to use the new NFC capabilities of iOS13 to do something with the ePassport.
Nice to see that this technology is gaining traction.

I guess your ios13-ubic-app is allready in the pipeline? Smiley
jr. member
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Looks like there are a lot of people that want to use the new NFC capabilities of iOS13 to do something with the ePassport.
Nice to see that this technology is gaining traction.
jr. member
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Sad news, there was no mention of new NFC functionalities in iOS 12 at the keynote.

uk home secretary announced few weeks back that Apple promised to enable the Brexit e-passport App finally to work with iOS in late 2019 .( More and more people will grow accustomed to use their passport with NFC due to looming brexit btw. ) https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/29/android-brexit-app-for-eu-citizens-to-work-on-iphones-says-sajid-javid



It is happening!
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Here is what we know Apple is adding to iOS 13 for NFC. We will update this as information comes in. [...]
Direct access to issue NFC commands for the protocols FeliCa, ISO 15693 (SLI-X), ISO 7816 (Type 2, NTAG…) and Mifare (Ultralight, Plus, DESFire)
Source: https://gototags.com/blog/apple-expands-nfc-on-iphone-in-ios-13/

This is what was actually needed: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/corenfc/nfciso7816tag/3043835-sendcommand
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