[ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales NEW STOCK ***NOW SHIPPING*** - page 207.

CoinHoarder

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Perhaps like Avalon (who promised 80 Gh, but delivered 100+ Gh), Bitfury will come through in an unexpected way. Wink

Certainly their specs as ordered are conservative, no?

Even though it's true that if these are a month+ late, they might not reach ROI. These calculations can only be made with the promised specs and perhaps what we actually receive will achieve a better ROI than most people think.

Ordering any vaporware (or even from reputable companies) is a gamble. With the ASIC situation the way it is, you either have to gamble or get out of the game. There is no waiting and playing safe to "see who is legit". By the time you know, the possible profit will have been mined by the early adopters of the equipment that took the gamble. We've all seen what happens when ASIC manufacturers are proven legit.. they raise their prices (Avalon Batch 3 and BFL's new pricing).

My two Satoshis.

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Don't forget the flood of cheap ASIC as many people exit the market in Q4 and Q1. They will be displaced by the big fish... and will be selling off their units. I expect a deluge of used units up to 25GH/s.

Today a 25GH/S unit is about .3 BTC per day. In a month is will be .2 and in two it will be less than .1 BTC per day. Q1 of next year 25 GH/S units will cost maybe 2 BTC?

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Quote from: klondike_bar on August 06, 2013, 09:03:55 PM

Quote from: superduh on August 06, 2013, 07:44:06 PM

given the changing landscape in the asic field - are you considering adjusting prices for october delivery? boards or full units etc

looks like prices go up, thats been the trend with every other company so far it seems : show your prototype, demand rises, price rises

I know that the second these begin shipping I would be locking in on any boards left - until then its as big a gamble as BFL

the biggest gamble at the moment is October delivery. why? because that's when avalon chips should be assembled, KnCs should be out, hashfast?, coineterra, labcoin, btcgarden, activemining, asicminer products who knows what else all hitting around that time. Q4 is completely unpredictable and guessing ROI is just impossible. it will not hit 100% ROI for most RETAIL customers. should be interesting though

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Quote from: superduh on August 06, 2013, 07:44:06 PM

given the changing landscape in the asic field - are you considering adjusting prices for october delivery? boards or full units etc

looks like prices go up, thats been the trend with every other company so far it seems : show your prototype, demand rises, price rises

I know that the second these begin shipping I would be locking in on any boards left - until then its as big a gamble as BFL

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given the changing landscape in the asic field - are you considering adjusting prices for october delivery? boards or full units etc

nexus99

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I am very much looking forward to getting my starter set so I can start filling it up with boards...

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Quote from: erk on August 06, 2013, 06:33:22 PM

How come the 25GH/s starter kit is still at the old price and not similar $ per GH/s to the new 400GH/s unit price?

It's like $52 per GH/s vs $20 per GH/s which is a crazy difference.

we got good price than Europe site.

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Quote from: erk on August 06, 2013, 06:33:22 PM

How come the 25GH/s starter kit is still at the old price and not similar $ per GH/s to the new 400GH/s unit price?

It's like $52 per GH/s vs $20 per GH/s which is a crazy difference.

That's not true.

Full Kit = $8000
Starter Kit +15 Boards = $8800

Only a 10% difference

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How come the 25GH/s starter kit is still at the old price and not similar $ per GH/s to the new 400GH/s unit price?

It's like $52 per GH/s vs $20 per GH/s which is a crazy difference.

NVM. I just noticed the starter kit includes the motherboard price too.

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So as for the credit card situation. I had placed a wire transfer order noting CC payment and have been awaiting an e-mail or something.
Do I continue to wait to be contacted, or do I now cancel it and just put through a new order with CC on the website?

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Do you still accept credit cards for new orders?

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Ther's some info over on the EU thread:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2878418

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Quote from: buzzdave on August 06, 2013, 11:40:32 AM

A few new things:

-I pulled down the bulk and 10pc chip sales in advance of a new tiered pricing structure.
-I also disabled August product, so those won't show up anymore.

There's a new M-board design for retail boards! It has two Molex connectors for power (still retains original Keystone terminals too), 3 Minifit-Jr fan connectors and has been reorganized a bit. It provides 4 SPI channels rather than one long one. This design is not tested yet, though prototypes are coming this week.

Niko will have pictures when they come in. *If* they test well and I can ship these for August without incurring a delay, this is what you will get. Otherwise, you will get the first version M-board, which has a Keystone Terminal http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/8197/8197K-ND/316833 for power.

I'll get you clarification on this asap, so you can prepare your PSU setup...

Hey dave,

Does the mboard mounting hole alignment stay the same?

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Quote from: ErebusBat on August 06, 2013, 09:58:01 AM

Quote from: buzzdave on August 06, 2013, 09:54:29 AM

Guys, let me describe how my sales are structured and maybe it will clear things up. First - I have three sales channels, not all of which are run through the online store:

Retail: online eCommerce - megabigpower.com, affiliates and partner sites (pool ops for example)
Wholesale: private mines, large hosted placements, investor/customers & various flavors of mining bond/share based mining
OEM: bulk chip sales for manufacture

The Retail channel was opened up first to give the best opportunity to the community. The starter kits were also discounted for this reason. The Wholesale channel was opened up for October delivery and has a minimum $250k commitment with a demonstrated potential for larger purchases and re-buys. OEM is chips by the reel or participatory investment in chip orders, i.e. Metabank.

Lab_Rat controls a potential hardware buy of up to $1m with rebuys. These guys don't operate through a website to make these kinds of purchases. Usually there's negotiation, pro-forma sales terms, proof (usually in person), deposits, delivery, final payment.

Lab_Rat isn't even in the Retail queue - he's in the Wholesale side, though he mis-characterized that in his comments. I have a completely different Test & Ship Team for Retail & Wholesale channels. For now, bulk chips are sold as drop ship from Europe, but that may change too.

Understand that if you are in this half of the world and you want to buy BitFury, you have to buy it from me at the moment. There is a lot of money coming into Bitcoin mining and each type of customer requires a different structure.

I would also like to state to all those who have sour grapes: This kind of structuring is very very common in the 'real world'. Take a look at WalMart as a good example.

Terrible example. All the product available at Walmart are sold off the shelf.

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Quote from: buzzdave on August 06, 2013, 11:49:49 AM

Anybody that tried using Square for credit card processing got auto-refunded. Since there are fees and possibly exchange rate losses associated with this, I will credit your order with compensation for this. We have all the transactions on the Square side, so no need to contact me. I'll have Kat start working on this.

Thanks Square!

Dave

Not all of us got refunded... if the transaction went through ok is that going to change or is it a done deal at this point?

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Anybody that tried using Square for credit card processing got auto-refunded. Since there are fees and possibly exchange rate losses associated with this, I will credit your order with compensation for this. We have all the transactions on the Square side, so no need to contact me. I'll have Kat start working on this.

Thanks Square!

Dave

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A few new things:

-I pulled down the bulk and 10pc chip sales in advance of a new tiered pricing structure.
-I also disabled August product, so those won't show up anymore.

There's a new M-board design for retail boards! It has two Molex connectors for power (still retains original Keystone terminals too), 3 Minifit-Jr fan connectors and has been reorganized a bit. It provides 4 SPI channels rather than one long one. This design is not tested yet, though prototypes are coming this week.

Niko will have pictures when they come in. *If* they test well and I can ship these for August without incurring a delay, this is what you will get. Otherwise, you will get the first version M-board, which has a Keystone Terminal http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/8197/8197K-ND/316833 for power.

I'll get you clarification on this asap, so you can prepare your PSU setup...

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Quote from: Todamont on August 06, 2013, 10:58:14 AM

The 1% is taking over the mining game and allowing the fiat governments to feed off of bitcoin. Don't support these guys.

Go back to your tin foil house.

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The 1% is taking over the mining game and allowing the fiat governments to feed off of bitcoin. Don't support these guys.

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very nicely put! thanks for the update!

Quote from: buzzdave on August 06, 2013, 09:54:29 AM

Guys, let me describe how my sales are structured and maybe it will clear things up. First - I have three sales channels, not all of which are run through the online store:

Retail: online eCommerce - megabigpower.com, affiliates and partner sites (pool ops for example)
Wholesale: private mines, large hosted placements, investor/customers & various flavors of mining bond/share based mining
OEM: bulk chip sales for manufacture

The Retail channel was opened up first to give the best opportunity to the community. The starter kits were also discounted for this reason. The Wholesale channel was opened up for October delivery and has a minimum $250k commitment with a demonstrated potential for larger purchases and re-buys. OEM is chips by the reel or participatory investment in chip orders, i.e. Metabank.

Lab_Rat controls a potential hardware buy of up to $1m with rebuys. These guys don't operate through a website to make these kinds of purchases. Usually there's negotiation, pro-forma sales terms, proof (usually in person), deposits, delivery, final payment.

Lab_Rat isn't even in the Retail queue - he's in the Wholesale side, though he mis-characterized that in his comments. I have a completely different Test & Ship Team for Retail & Wholesale channels. For now, bulk chips are sold as drop ship from Europe, but that may change too.

Understand that if you are in this half of the world and you want to buy BitFury, you have to buy it from me at the moment. There is a lot of money coming into Bitcoin mining and each type of customer requires a different structure.

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