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sr. member
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December 18, 2014, 09:00:38 PM
I have 4 orphaned blocks.

Staking should have kicked in by now I think. Please correct me if Im wrong but is it not 12 hours after matured coins? I mined the first block 16 hours ago.
Eligible 12 block hours after they have matured yes but it will take a bit longer before staking actually occurs. This is why we are testing more so we can be sure I did not break Proof-of-Stake with the new solo-fairness algorithm which depends partly on stake.

Some people think they aren't staking because their wallet is locked because of a "placholder" icon but nobodys wallet is locked because there is no user interface option to do this to do this yet. The core supports this however.

Be patient and and don't send too many coins or you could send some that are almost eligible.

Thank you for your support.
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December 18, 2014, 08:56:24 PM
Hi @john-connor

We cant stake because the wallet is locked. I have checked for a new version but I get a 404.
Ya I was gonna mention that would help for the staking if the wallet could be unlocked.  Thanks for noticing that as well my friend Smiley
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December 18, 2014, 08:54:55 PM
Hi @john-connor

We cant stake because the wallet is locked. I have checked for a new version but I get a 404.
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December 18, 2014, 08:54:34 PM
Ok, I have made one final change to the solo mining fairness algorithm in attempt to make it more fair and fix block timing issues related to difficulty fluctuation. Preliminary tests shows that 3 test machines manufactured roughly 2 years apart each generated 3 blocks out of 9 blocks total. I am going to run a larger scale test to see if block generation time stays within bounds and distribution is good. If that succeeds we will do a public test and watch for these specific issues and fix them if required. I have high confidence. Cool

Thank you for your support.
Fix them if required!!! Perfect words right there John Smiley The test net has been working beautifully and I don't think you need to launch the coin again at all just update the wallets for the people and keep on trucking my friend Smiley When something is working don't break it my Granny always used to tell me so just remember that when you go through the next countless pages of people quite content with the way the blockchain and the block rewards are working smoothly and perfectly fine Smiley Cheers Mate Smiley

Give it up @NoobKidOnTheBlock. This is a test so it needs a official launch. I have more coins than you and I dont care because I want the launch to be fair to everybody. The real launch will be when dev is ready.

@john-connor Good work.
Simmer down there Cowboy!! I just was simply stating my opinion on the matter where the last time I checked I was perfectly privileged to do so!  I get it we don't get to keep our coins and what makes you so sure you have more coins than me anyways buddeh? Is it cause you are test mining on numerous computers? Another 1 up on the lonely solo miner such as myself lol JK I really don't care if that's the way things gotta be then that's the way things gotta be.  I was just re-quoting what the Dev said earlier and that was all.  And I'm one of the first people who always wants things to be fair for everyone! That's my motto in this crooked fucked up Crypto-Society with all their little packs and their little pump groups and shit.  I've always said what is on my mind and what my genuine opinion is on anything to do with Crypto! And all I said was if everything was running legit then why have a relaunch? Anyone who is gonna be in on this coin is already testing it anyways right? Or wait there is some guy out there that's like "Ummm I'm not gonna test the coin out like everyone else and just wait for the launch like an Idiot!!"  So who is really losing out on anything here? It was merely a suggestion and it seems like the numerous computer peeps want it their way which I believe they how did they put it "The FAIR way" that's fine and I back John Connor and his coin 100% and like the idea and concept behind it.  Just figured why start all over again for what the 3rd time when everything is working perfectly fine and anyone who is serious about this coin is already test mining it right now as I type this.  Anyways Cheers and Happy Trading everyone Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1131
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December 18, 2014, 08:40:58 PM
john-connor could you please acknowledge the issue I have been repeating with the Mac wallet.  It would be great to get that working before your launch.
There is no problem with the Mac wallet as it is my primary testing means. You must have a 64-bit Mac with OS X 10.9 or greater. All Apple OS upgrades are free of charge.

Thank you for your support.

Thanks I appreciate the reply.  I am running 10.9.3 and when I launch the client it closes immediately so I am hoping you can give me something I could try to get it working.  The first version on monday ran fine, it was only the last two versions that I haven't been able to run. 
sr. member
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December 18, 2014, 08:35:35 PM
john-connor could you please acknowledge the issue I have been repeating with the Mac wallet.  It would be great to get that working before your launch.
There is no problem with the Mac wallet as it is my primary testing means. You must have a 64-bit Mac with OS X 10.9 or greater. All Apple OS upgrades are free of charge.

Thank you for your support.
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December 18, 2014, 08:14:25 PM
I have 4 orphaned blocks.

Staking should have kicked in by now I think. Please correct me if Im wrong but is it not 12 hours after matured coins? I mined the first block 16 hours ago.
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December 18, 2014, 07:50:23 PM
Ok, I have made one final change to the solo mining fairness algorithm in attempt to make it more fair and fix block timing issues related to difficulty fluctuation. Preliminary tests shows that 3 test machines manufactured roughly 2 years apart each generated 3 blocks out of 9 blocks total. I am going to run a larger scale test to see if block generation time stays within bounds and distribution is good. If that succeeds we will do a public test and watch for these specific issues and fix them if required. I have high confidence. Cool

Thank you for your support.
Fix them if required!!! Perfect words right there John Smiley The test net has been working beautifully and I don't think you need to launch the coin again at all just update the wallets for the people and keep on trucking my friend Smiley When something is working don't break it my Granny always used to tell me so just remember that when you go through the next countless pages of people quite content with the way the blockchain and the block rewards are working smoothly and perfectly fine Smiley Cheers Mate Smiley

Give it up @NoobKidOnTheBlock. This is a test so it needs a official launch. I have more coins than you and I dont care because I want the launch to be fair to everybody. The real launch will be when dev is ready.

@john-connor Good work.
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December 18, 2014, 07:44:34 PM
I'd like to let the test network continue to run so we can watch Proof-of-Stake and make sure it still functions as it should. I'm pushing back the release until December 23 2014 at 5AM UTC.

Please test as much as you can and post feedback so we can create the final blockchain and launch without further delay. Cool

Thank you for your support.

I have mined 16 640 testcoins. It looks good. There is no staking yet.
legendary
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December 18, 2014, 07:08:45 PM
john-connor could you please acknowledge the issue I have been repeating with the Mac wallet.  It would be great to get that working before your launch.
sr. member
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December 18, 2014, 05:40:11 PM
I'd like to let the test network continue to run so we can watch Proof-of-Stake and make sure it still functions as it should. I'm pushing back the release until December 23 2014 at 5AM UTC.

Please test as much as you can and post feedback so we can create the final blockchain and launch without further delay. Cool

Thank you for your support.
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December 18, 2014, 05:26:06 PM
Ok, I have made one final change to the solo mining fairness algorithm in attempt to make it more fair and fix block timing issues related to difficulty fluctuation. Preliminary tests shows that 3 test machines manufactured roughly 2 years apart each generated 3 blocks out of 9 blocks total. I am going to run a larger scale test to see if block generation time stays within bounds and distribution is good. If that succeeds we will do a public test and watch for these specific issues and fix them if required. I have high confidence. Cool

Thank you for your support.
Fix them if required!!! Perfect words right there John Smiley The test net has been working beautifully and I don't think you need to launch the coin again at all just update the wallets for the people and keep on trucking my friend Smiley When something is working don't break it my Granny always used to tell me so just remember that when you go through the next countless pages of people quite content with the way the blockchain and the block rewards are working smoothly and perfectly fine Smiley Cheers Mate Smiley
legendary
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December 18, 2014, 05:12:57 PM
i'm only beginning to learn the lin cli also, though i've been playing around with it for over a decade. 'nix gives you power and thats cool!

Yeah I just wish I could get this working, I've got a couple linux boxes around haha


I feel very dumb not being able to get this working.
sh vanillacoin?
 
legendary
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December 18, 2014, 05:08:50 PM
 

 @ cryptolemaik - i'm only beginning to learn the lin cli also, though i've been playing around with it for over a decade. 'nix gives you power and thats cool!
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December 18, 2014, 05:06:43 PM
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Is there purposeful throttling going on here to cause a more equitable mining potential landscape?

  that is exactly the dev's objective

i'm running a desktop w/3 [email protected]/8gig ram and a lappy w/a single core @2.2/3gig, desktop generated ~7k coins using 30-50% cpu, the lappy 6k coins using about ~75% cpu. looks like you did it John! PoS should kick in +1/2 a day
Ya but didn't you hear we don't get to keep any of these coins that successfully did what the Dev was trying to do apparently? Which I'm sorry if I came across harsh about it but I only just began mining a little while ago and this was one coin that was actually working pretty well right from the get go so I figured that since that is what he was testing that we would just have a wallet update and continue mining just as we are doing right now Smiley Don't you think that is the best solution for both worlds?? Everyone mining the coin is getting roughly the exact same hashrate so it's really pretty evenly distributed in my opinion Smiley But I guess that's for the Dev to officially decide Smiley

  dude as above earlier in the week a failed launch and we all lost coins. the blockchain was reset several times. this test was designed to avoid a repeat of that, it was announced as a test. this event isn't happening on the regular internet, more like a vpn i guess. fake coins if you will
Well I will apologize because I was unaware this coin was already launched once before and had a mishap.  I do know what it feels like to lose out on a good investment because I had 70k OPAL when that hack attack happened and that was an easy 2k in my pocket but nothing from it now.  So I do apologize about that but I still believe that there should be some sort've compensation for the test miners for their dedicated work through this process because this is a phenomenal coin and in wallet miner that I have ever seen and like the idea behind it all.  I am so sick and tired of huge farming rigs and pools stealing away all the coins just to dump them to shit on the exchanges thats all.  Anyways does anyone know when the official launch for this coin will be and when we can start actually mining it full force?
legendary
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December 18, 2014, 04:55:52 PM
Can anyone explain how to mine on the linux version? I'm not getting a GUI. I run from command line but I'm not sure what commands to issue to begin mining. Can anyone explain? Smiley
try setgenerate true , or gen

i tried to dl the lin version earlier, guess it wasn't ready. hmm mebe i'll fire up that vm...
legendary
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December 18, 2014, 04:50:14 PM
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Is there purposeful throttling going on here to cause a more equitable mining potential landscape?

  that is exactly the dev's objective

i'm running a desktop w/3 [email protected]/8gig ram and a lappy w/a single core @2.2/3gig, desktop generated ~7k coins using 30-50% cpu, the lappy 6k coins using about ~75% cpu. looks like you did it John! PoS should kick in +1/2 a day
Ya but didn't you hear we don't get to keep any of these coins that successfully did what the Dev was trying to do apparently? Which I'm sorry if I came across harsh about it but I only just began mining a little while ago and this was one coin that was actually working pretty well right from the get go so I figured that since that is what he was testing that we would just have a wallet update and continue mining just as we are doing right now Smiley Don't you think that is the best solution for both worlds?? Everyone mining the coin is getting roughly the exact same hashrate so it's really pretty evenly distributed in my opinion Smiley But I guess that's for the Dev to officially decide Smiley

  dude as above earlier in the week a failed launch and we all lost coins. the blockchain was reset several times. this test was designed to avoid a repeat of that, it was announced as a test. this event isn't happening on the regular internet, more like a vpn i guess. fake coins if you will
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December 18, 2014, 04:49:31 PM
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Is there purposeful throttling going on here to cause a more equitable mining potential landscape?

  that is exactly the dev's objective

i'm running a desktop w/3 [email protected]/8gig ram and a lappy w/a single core @2.2/3gig, desktop generated ~7k coins using 30-50% cpu, the lappy 6k coins using about ~75% cpu. looks like you did it John! PoS should kick in +1/2 a day
Ya but didn't you hear we don't get to keep any of these coins that successfully did what the Dev was trying to do apparently? Which I'm sorry if I came across harsh about it but I only just began mining a little while ago and this was one coin that was actually working pretty well right from the get go so I figured that since that is what he was testing that we would just have a wallet update and continue mining just as we are doing right now Smiley Don't you think that is the best solution for both worlds?? Everyone mining the coin is getting roughly the exact same hashrate so it's really pretty evenly distributed in my opinion Smiley But I guess that's for the Dev to officially decide Smiley


Listen, you sound new to crypto. The shitstorm that would arise if the dev didn't have an actual launch or somehow let the testnet go forward would be insane. Also, the testnet is NOT fair, because he specifically increased the block generation by three fold. The coins you mined a) are test coins, b) are not the same as the real thing, c) were not generated under the intended specifications for the real thing, and d) were understood to be test coins from the get go.


Welcome to crypto.
Hmmmm maybe the shitstorm would be as big as lets say OPAL having over 800k coins hacked from them!!! Or what about the VeriCoin incident that happened back in the day when they got attacked on mintpal.  I highly doubt there will be a fucking shitstorm if the Dev let the people who were mining keep the original amount they should've gotten. IE.  I have 6000 coins but he 3 folded it then I get to keep 2000 of those 6000 coins in the new updated wallet?? Sounds pretty fair to me because all these people have been test mining this coin all day and completely successful so why should they lose out on their hard earned coins?
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December 18, 2014, 04:46:37 PM
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Is there purposeful throttling going on here to cause a more equitable mining potential landscape?

  that is exactly the dev's objective

i'm running a desktop w/3 [email protected]/8gig ram and a lappy w/a single core @2.2/3gig, desktop generated ~7k coins using 30-50% cpu, the lappy 6k coins using about ~75% cpu. looks like you did it John! PoS should kick in +1/2 a day



Ok, but to my question - how easily can this throttling be avoided? What about the protocol prevents somebody from releasing the full potential of hardware power?
Well then why the Frick are any of us mining or testing this then if anything can possibly happen?? That makes no sense whatsoever!!! This happens all the times with coins and the Teams and Devs have to work with it. In my opinion I suggest that anyone who has been partaking in the test mining phase at least be allowed half of their coins they mined or all of them and just a wallet upgrade to transfer them too.
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December 18, 2014, 04:43:40 PM
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Is there purposeful throttling going on here to cause a more equitable mining potential landscape?

  that is exactly the dev's objective

i'm running a desktop w/3 [email protected]/8gig ram and a lappy w/a single core @2.2/3gig, desktop generated ~7k coins using 30-50% cpu, the lappy 6k coins using about ~75% cpu. looks like you did it John! PoS should kick in +1/2 a day
Ya but didn't you hear we don't get to keep any of these coins that successfully did what the Dev was trying to do apparently? Which I'm sorry if I came across harsh about it but I only just began mining a little while ago and this was one coin that was actually working pretty well right from the get go so I figured that since that is what he was testing that we would just have a wallet update and continue mining just as we are doing right now Smiley Don't you think that is the best solution for both worlds?? Everyone mining the coin is getting roughly the exact same hashrate so it's really pretty evenly distributed in my opinion Smiley But I guess that's for the Dev to officially decide Smiley
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