Any news on the actual consumption of the chip and availability date/quantity/price? When will these figures be available?
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April 20, 2014, 11:27:30 PM
April 20, 2014, 11:24:25 PM
Update
The documents as well as the (verified & produced) sample design are out:
Schematics - https://mega.co.nz/#!uNMkFZoI!lnlRehlynQQzNRfQ87_UYek1RtrOUvLZ6a074XeRqlo
Reference PCB File - https://mega.co.nz/#!DZVHgS6D!6pmTsmrito8rfVJJ-etvznOtUcalbAT6vU-C8EqY0_I
datasheet - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_dmXzyMqtr7tVZukk2DAJih2sRq5jDy5DQPkwCce570/edit?usp=sharing
bonding list - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Al1fvFT7Sd5bdFFZSUllNW5seVRfM01kcDVqZkJfdFE&usp=sharing
9x9 package pictures -
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B11fvFT7Sd5bUV90cFN4cEhTNEk/edit?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B11fvFT7Sd5banZkMDZqSTBGTEE/edit?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B11fvFT7Sd5bWjh6MmJsMFpCYkU/edit?usp=sharing
8x8 package picture -
https://mega.co.nz/#!DA1mBJzB!7hFnoT8ZYQd1d30m2oHbuscD36cCQ4ou7stsr5Lo03Y
The package we are using is 9mmx9mm, but it might be partly switched to 8mmx8mm.
Also, we plan to increase the center pad size to at least 7mmx7mm, so please leave enough margin on the PCB to avoid unnecessary re-designs.
The documents as well as the (verified & produced) sample design are out:
Schematics - https://mega.co.nz/#!uNMkFZoI!lnlRehlynQQzNRfQ87_UYek1RtrOUvLZ6a074XeRqlo
Reference PCB File - https://mega.co.nz/#!DZVHgS6D!6pmTsmrito8rfVJJ-etvznOtUcalbAT6vU-C8EqY0_I
datasheet - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_dmXzyMqtr7tVZukk2DAJih2sRq5jDy5DQPkwCce570/edit?usp=sharing
bonding list - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Al1fvFT7Sd5bdFFZSUllNW5seVRfM01kcDVqZkJfdFE&usp=sharing
9x9 package pictures -
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B11fvFT7Sd5bUV90cFN4cEhTNEk/edit?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B11fvFT7Sd5banZkMDZqSTBGTEE/edit?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B11fvFT7Sd5bWjh6MmJsMFpCYkU/edit?usp=sharing
8x8 package picture -
https://mega.co.nz/#!DA1mBJzB!7hFnoT8ZYQd1d30m2oHbuscD36cCQ4ou7stsr5Lo03Y
The package we are using is 9mmx9mm, but it might be partly switched to 8mmx8mm.
Also, we plan to increase the center pad size to at least 7mmx7mm, so please leave enough margin on the PCB to avoid unnecessary re-designs.
Any news on the actual consumption of the chip and availability date/quantity/price? When will these figures be available?
April 20, 2014, 11:23:52 PM
Update
The documents as well as the (verified & produced) sample design are out:
Schematics - Link 1
Reference PCB File - Link 1
datasheet - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_dmXzyMqtr7tVZukk2DAJih2sRq5jDy5DQPkwCce570/edit?usp=sharing
bonding list - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Al1fvFT7Sd5bdFFZSUllNW5seVRfM01kcDVqZkJfdFE&usp=sharing
9x9 package pictures -
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B11fvFT7Sd5bUV90cFN4cEhTNEk/edit?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B11fvFT7Sd5banZkMDZqSTBGTEE/edit?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B11fvFT7Sd5bWjh6MmJsMFpCYkU/edit?usp=sharing
8x8 package picture -
https://mega.co.nz/#!DA1mBJzB!7hFnoT8ZYQd1d30m2oHbuscD36cCQ4ou7stsr5Lo03Y
The package we are using is 9mmx9mm, but it might be partly switched to 8mmx8mm.
Also, we plan to increase the center pad size to at least 7mmx7mm, so please leave enough margin on the PCB to avoid unnecessary re-designs.
Hurrah! Fixed the first 2 linksThe documents as well as the (verified & produced) sample design are out:
Schematics - Link 1
Reference PCB File - Link 1
datasheet - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_dmXzyMqtr7tVZukk2DAJih2sRq5jDy5DQPkwCce570/edit?usp=sharing
bonding list - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Al1fvFT7Sd5bdFFZSUllNW5seVRfM01kcDVqZkJfdFE&usp=sharing
9x9 package pictures -
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B11fvFT7Sd5bUV90cFN4cEhTNEk/edit?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B11fvFT7Sd5banZkMDZqSTBGTEE/edit?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B11fvFT7Sd5bWjh6MmJsMFpCYkU/edit?usp=sharing
8x8 package picture -
https://mega.co.nz/#!DA1mBJzB!7hFnoT8ZYQd1d30m2oHbuscD36cCQ4ou7stsr5Lo03Y
The package we are using is 9mmx9mm, but it might be partly switched to 8mmx8mm.
Also, we plan to increase the center pad size to at least 7mmx7mm, so please leave enough margin on the PCB to avoid unnecessary re-designs.
Important stuff:
QFN package
The typical hash power is ~12GH/s in rated mode.
There is a pin to initiate turbo clock ranges:
bs decides the operating mode. When bs=0, the range of core clock frequency is 200MHz-400MHz. When bs=1, the range of core clock frequency is 375MHz-750MHz.
Core Vdd, 0.55v~0.88v
April 20, 2014, 11:23:48 PM
Update
The documents as well as the (verified & produced) sample design are out:
Schematics - https://mega.co.nz/#!uNMkFZoI!lnlRehlynQQzNRfQ87_UYek1RtrOUvLZ6a074XeRqlo
Reference PCB File - https://mega.co.nz/#!DZVHgS6D!6pmTsmrito8rfVJJ-etvznOtUcalbAT6vU-C8EqY0_I
datasheet - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_dmXzyMqtr7tVZukk2DAJih2sRq5jDy5DQPkwCce570/edit?usp=sharing
bonding list - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Al1fvFT7Sd5bdFFZSUllNW5seVRfM01kcDVqZkJfdFE&usp=sharing
9x9 package pictures -
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B11fvFT7Sd5bUV90cFN4cEhTNEk/edit?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B11fvFT7Sd5banZkMDZqSTBGTEE/edit?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B11fvFT7Sd5bWjh6MmJsMFpCYkU/edit?usp=sharing
8x8 package picture -
https://mega.co.nz/#!DA1mBJzB!7hFnoT8ZYQd1d30m2oHbuscD36cCQ4ou7stsr5Lo03Y
The package we are using is 9mmx9mm, but it might be partly switched to 8mmx8mm.
Also, we plan to increase the center pad size to at least 7mmx7mm, so please leave enough margin on the PCB to avoid unnecessary re-designs.
The documents as well as the (verified & produced) sample design are out:
Schematics - https://mega.co.nz/#!uNMkFZoI!lnlRehlynQQzNRfQ87_UYek1RtrOUvLZ6a074XeRqlo
Reference PCB File - https://mega.co.nz/#!DZVHgS6D!6pmTsmrito8rfVJJ-etvznOtUcalbAT6vU-C8EqY0_I
datasheet - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_dmXzyMqtr7tVZukk2DAJih2sRq5jDy5DQPkwCce570/edit?usp=sharing
bonding list - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Al1fvFT7Sd5bdFFZSUllNW5seVRfM01kcDVqZkJfdFE&usp=sharing
9x9 package pictures -
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B11fvFT7Sd5bUV90cFN4cEhTNEk/edit?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B11fvFT7Sd5banZkMDZqSTBGTEE/edit?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B11fvFT7Sd5bWjh6MmJsMFpCYkU/edit?usp=sharing
8x8 package picture -
https://mega.co.nz/#!DA1mBJzB!7hFnoT8ZYQd1d30m2oHbuscD36cCQ4ou7stsr5Lo03Y
The package we are using is 9mmx9mm, but it might be partly switched to 8mmx8mm.
Also, we plan to increase the center pad size to at least 7mmx7mm, so please leave enough margin on the PCB to avoid unnecessary re-designs.
what's the power consumption ?
April 20, 2014, 11:16:22 PM
Update
The documents as well as the (verified & produced) sample design are out:
Schematics - https://mega.co.nz/#!uNMkFZoI!lnlRehlynQQzNRfQ87_UYek1RtrOUvLZ6a074XeRqlo
Reference PCB File - https://mega.co.nz/#!DZVHgS6D!6pmTsmrito8rfVJJ-etvznOtUcalbAT6vU-C8EqY0_I
datasheet - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_dmXzyMqtr7tVZukk2DAJih2sRq5jDy5DQPkwCce570/edit?usp=sharing
bonding list - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Al1fvFT7Sd5bdFFZSUllNW5seVRfM01kcDVqZkJfdFE&usp=sharing
9x9 package pictures -
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B11fvFT7Sd5bUV90cFN4cEhTNEk/edit?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B11fvFT7Sd5banZkMDZqSTBGTEE/edit?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B11fvFT7Sd5bWjh6MmJsMFpCYkU/edit?usp=sharing
8x8 package picture -
https://mega.co.nz/#!DA1mBJzB!7hFnoT8ZYQd1d30m2oHbuscD36cCQ4ou7stsr5Lo03Y
The package we are using is 9mmx9mm, but it might be partly switched to 8mmx8mm.
Also, we plan to increase the center pad size to at least 7mmx7mm, so please leave enough margin on the PCB to avoid unnecessary re-designs.
The documents as well as the (verified & produced) sample design are out:
Schematics - https://mega.co.nz/#!uNMkFZoI!lnlRehlynQQzNRfQ87_UYek1RtrOUvLZ6a074XeRqlo
Reference PCB File - https://mega.co.nz/#!DZVHgS6D!6pmTsmrito8rfVJJ-etvznOtUcalbAT6vU-C8EqY0_I
datasheet - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_dmXzyMqtr7tVZukk2DAJih2sRq5jDy5DQPkwCce570/edit?usp=sharing
bonding list - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Al1fvFT7Sd5bdFFZSUllNW5seVRfM01kcDVqZkJfdFE&usp=sharing
9x9 package pictures -
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B11fvFT7Sd5bUV90cFN4cEhTNEk/edit?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B11fvFT7Sd5banZkMDZqSTBGTEE/edit?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B11fvFT7Sd5bWjh6MmJsMFpCYkU/edit?usp=sharing
8x8 package picture -
https://mega.co.nz/#!DA1mBJzB!7hFnoT8ZYQd1d30m2oHbuscD36cCQ4ou7stsr5Lo03Y
The package we are using is 9mmx9mm, but it might be partly switched to 8mmx8mm.
Also, we plan to increase the center pad size to at least 7mmx7mm, so please leave enough margin on the PCB to avoid unnecessary re-designs.
April 18, 2014, 03:37:00 PM
Not sure if this has been posted here yet:
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Here are the preliminary recommended board dimensions for immersion cooling.
Anything goes with immersion, final decision up to the board designers discretion.
https://docs.google.com/a/allied-control.com/file/d/0ByWHHc0u_thNdzB3c2hvVzJkcTQ/edit
This is for the DataTank designs, which will be sitting in various data centers and ASIC hosting providers in the future.
http://www.allied-control.com/datatank
Anything goes with immersion, final decision up to the board designers discretion.
https://docs.google.com/a/allied-control.com/file/d/0ByWHHc0u_thNdzB3c2hvVzJkcTQ/edit
This is for the DataTank designs, which will be sitting in various data centers and ASIC hosting providers in the future.
http://www.allied-control.com/datatank
April 15, 2014, 06:07:15 PM
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April 13, 2014, 12:37:07 PM
http://blog.rockminer.com/#!/2014/04/13/Testing_Results_Of_BE200.md
Testing Results Of BE200
We've got the results of one good testing board,it seems not good,but sill can be accepted.We will receive more chips at next weekend if things are going well .
Results:
Board:one chip testing board
Frequency:360Mhz
Volt:0.72V
Hashrate per chip:11.52Ghash
Power consumption:6.375W per chip
Power consumption per Ghash:6.375/11.52=0.5539W/Ghash
After power supply changeover:0.5539/81% = 0.684W/Ghash（at blade）
Power consumption on wall:0.684/0.8 = 0.855W/G
Adding other components loss about 1KW/Thash
Tips:this result is not very accurate just for reference.
Testing Results Of BE200
We've got the results of one good testing board,it seems not good,but sill can be accepted.We will receive more chips at next weekend if things are going well .
Results:
Board:one chip testing board
Frequency:360Mhz
Volt:0.72V
Hashrate per chip:11.52Ghash
Power consumption:6.375W per chip
Power consumption per Ghash:6.375/11.52=0.5539W/Ghash
After power supply changeover:0.5539/81% = 0.684W/Ghash（at blade）
Power consumption on wall:0.684/0.8 = 0.855W/G
Adding other components loss about 1KW/Thash
Tips:this result is not very accurate just for reference.
April 09, 2014, 11:33:10 AM
I'm slightly perplexed about this whole scenario. The new chip is without doubt a good idea, especially for the DIY crowd, but what I can't fathom is why prospective buyers would want to use these chips when their manufacturer has made it abundantly clear that they want to sell huge amount of them to 'mining operations with large PCB making capacity'? Surely this is going to dilute any potential future earnings - small players can never hope to compete on economies of scale here, and remember that $0.5/GH or thereabouts is only going to be available to 'huge' volume users.
What an actual system will cost to make will be a lot more.
The net result will be that the network hashing power will go through the roof, and only the big operators will be able to survive.
Comments?
What an actual system will cost to make will be a lot more.
The net result will be that the network hashing power will go through the roof, and only the big operators will be able to survive.
Comments?
Some will have access to the appropriate tools and setup to be part of a group buy, get some chips, assemble, and get their miners online before the competition. They're betting that with the initial low cost, they will be ahead of the large scale DIY manufactures, who need to order massive amounts of parts, assemble, and deal with shipping, customer service, and etc and still make a profit.
Plus with KnC, CoinTerra, and HashFast going their current paths, what other alternatives do miners have?
Good points, my worry would be that by the time the smaller guys get sorted out, the big ones will be going full steam ahead. As for KNC and co, it will be interesting to see how (if) they respond.
April 09, 2014, 01:01:31 AM
I am interested to buy chips, is there a minimum quantity required ?
April 08, 2014, 11:06:40 PM
Comments?
The manufacturer may only sell large quantities directly but there's nothing to say a distributor won't. Will being able to purchase in large quantities be advantageous? Likely since anyone in the supply chain wants their piece of the pie.
April 08, 2014, 09:14:11 PM
I'm slightly perplexed about this whole scenario. The new chip is without doubt a good idea, especially for the DIY crowd, but what I can't fathom is why prospective buyers would want to use these chips when their manufacturer has made it abundantly clear that they want to sell huge amount of them to 'mining operations with large PCB making capacity'? Surely this is going to dilute any potential future earnings - small players can never hope to compete on economies of scale here, and remember that $0.5/GH or thereabouts is only going to be available to 'huge' volume users.
What an actual system will cost to make will be a lot more.
The net result will be that the network hashing power will go through the roof, and only the big operators will be able to survive.
Comments?
What an actual system will cost to make will be a lot more.
The net result will be that the network hashing power will go through the roof, and only the big operators will be able to survive.
Comments?
Some will have access to the appropriate tools and setup to be part of a group buy, get some chips, assemble, and get their miners online before the competition. They're betting that with the initial low cost, they will be ahead of the large scale DIY manufactures, who need to order massive amounts of parts, assemble, and deal with shipping, customer service, and etc and still make a profit.
Plus with KnC, CoinTerra, and HashFast going their current paths, what other alternatives do miners have?
April 08, 2014, 07:32:27 PM
I'm slightly perplexed about this whole scenario. The new chip is without doubt a good idea, especially for the DIY crowd, but what I can't fathom is why prospective buyers would want to use these chips when their manufacturer has made it abundantly clear that they want to sell huge amount of them to 'mining operations with large PCB making capacity'? Surely this is going to dilute any potential future earnings - small players can never hope to compete on economies of scale here, and remember that $0.5/GH or thereabouts is only going to be available to 'huge' volume users.
What an actual system will cost to make will be a lot more.
The net result will be that the network hashing power will go through the roof, and only the big operators will be able to survive.
Comments?
What an actual system will cost to make will be a lot more.
The net result will be that the network hashing power will go through the roof, and only the big operators will be able to survive.
Comments?
April 08, 2014, 09:56:46 AM
How to get samples and documentation? Thanks.
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April 08, 2014, 08:20:39 AM
How to get samples and documentation? Thanks.
April 07, 2014, 09:36:11 PM
EE received chips thank you gentlemen:
Anyone interested in working with our team please contact me via pm or email.
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from Hugo Qin, of Shenzhen Shenkelong Ltd, in business zone of the PRC.
We are assuming that they are AM BE200 samples, since they are in a 65 pad package (QFN64).
Specs are nice - 12GH at 4+ Watts
We sure could use another engineer!
Dang!
We are assuming that they are AM BE200 samples, since they are in a 65 pad package (QFN64).
Specs are nice - 12GH at 4+ Watts
We sure could use another engineer!
Dang!
Anyone interested in working with our team please contact me via pm or email.
12gh at 4w tested?
Give us the final specs big cat!
Just the "specs" included nothing tested yet. We will let you know when we get that far. We will probably look at a quick turnaround USB module solution for testing called "Sting" maybe.
April 07, 2014, 09:31:48 PM
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Specs are nice - 12GH at 4+ Watts
Seems right on target, 4 W/12 GH/s is just about 0.35 W/GH/s...
April 07, 2014, 09:08:13 PM
EE received chips thank you gentlemen:
Anyone interested in working with our team please contact me via pm or email.
Quote
from Hugo Qin, of Shenzhen Shenkelong Ltd, in business zone of the PRC.
We are assuming that they are AM BE200 samples, since they are in a 65 pad package (QFN64).
Specs are nice - 12GH at 4+ Watts
We sure could use another engineer!
Dang!
We are assuming that they are AM BE200 samples, since they are in a 65 pad package (QFN64).
Specs are nice - 12GH at 4+ Watts
We sure could use another engineer!
Dang!
Anyone interested in working with our team please contact me via pm or email.
12gh at 4w tested?
Give us the final specs big cat!
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