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Topic: [ANN][AUTO-SWITCH] Profit-switch auto-exchange pool: CleverMining.com - page 134. (Read 554382 times)

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Reading these boards is an essay on human nature.

It doesn't matter how successful the pool is, nor does it matter what external influences (such as alt-coin market dynamics) exist, nor how effectively the pool operator manages his obligations, there will still be people who complain.

I'm not talking about legitimate complaints, I mean those who just whine at every opportunity, every "burp" in the system.

Really a sad story.

youre right, but i can understand complaints about rejects, i belive terk knows about it cuz the EU server isn't doing too well but again its dieffrent for every user.
this is from now

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Reading these boards is an essay on human nature.

It doesn't matter how successful the pool is, nor does it matter what external influences (such as alt-coin market dynamics) exist, nor how effectively the pool operator manages his obligations, there will still be people who complain.

I'm not talking about legitimate complaints, I mean those who just whine at every opportunity, every "burp" in the system.

Really a sad story.
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Hi Pieran,
thanks for the advice, but unfortunately it doesn't appear to have helped - after an albeit short test - I'm still getting 45% rejections at intensity 16. Any other advice?
I think it's an issue with the pool rather than with your miner.  I was mining here without a problem until there was a sudden "bug" that jumped my rejects from <5% to >60%.  Our op said that this was an unintentional bug that would be fixed within a couple of hours.  I tried for a bit for a couple days afterward and the rejects continued.  I switched my miners over to a different pool and all settings worked normally with minimal rejects.

I keep checking back here to see if the reject complaints die down because I really like this site and pool.  But I think it's going to take an "aha" moment from the hosts before I can jump back in.
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for some reason I was paid under 0,01 btc on 30.03, I don't like that, maybe you should pay sub 0,01 if hashrate was a flatline for 2-3 days or there wasn't any payment since last sunday?
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Hmm... pretty high reject rate for me too. Didnt change anything at all and I went from the server average to having 30 to 40% rejects on the EU server.
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Forget about scrypt-n, what about X11 coins?
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Hi,

Are going to introduce scrypt-n coins to CleverMining anytime soon.

Thanks. Wink
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setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
--scrypt -o stratum+tcp://eu.clevermining.com:3333 -u xxx -p  --thread-concurrency 27400 --lookup-gap 2 --gpu-engine 880 --gpu-memclock 1250 --gpu-powertune 20 -w 512 -I 18 -g 1

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Hi,

I would try to lower the intensity a bit. Maybe try with -I 16 as a starting point.



Hi Pieran,

thanks for the advice, but unfortunately it doesn't appear to have helped - after an albeit short test - I'm still getting 45% rejections at intensity 16. Any other advice?

Using mobile broadband?
Can you post a screen of your miner?

Hi gUMMO414,

By mobile bb do you mean Wireless? If so no I'm not. Cable all the way.

By a screen shot do you literally just mean a shot of CGWatcher and CGMiner running?

Thanks!
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setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
--scrypt -o stratum+tcp://eu.clevermining.com:3333 -u xxx -p  --thread-concurrency 27400 --lookup-gap 2 --gpu-engine 880 --gpu-memclock 1250 --gpu-powertune 20 -w 512 -I 18 -g 1

...

Hi,

I would try to lower the intensity a bit. Maybe try with -I 16 as a starting point.



Hi Pieran,

thanks for the advice, but unfortunately it doesn't appear to have helped - after an albeit short test - I'm still getting 45% rejections at intensity 16. Any other advice?

Using mobile broadband?
Can you post a screen of your miner?
newbie
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...
setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
--scrypt -o stratum+tcp://eu.clevermining.com:3333 -u xxx -p  --thread-concurrency 27400 --lookup-gap 2 --gpu-engine 880 --gpu-memclock 1250 --gpu-powertune 20 -w 512 -I 18 -g 1

...

Hi,

I would try to lower the intensity a bit. Maybe try with -I 16 as a starting point.



Hi Pieran,

thanks for the advice, but unfortunately it doesn't appear to have helped - after an albeit short test - I'm still getting 45% rejections at intensity 16. Any other advice?
newbie
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Merit: 0
...
setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
--scrypt -o stratum+tcp://eu.clevermining.com:3333 -u xxx -p  --thread-concurrency 27400 --lookup-gap 2 --gpu-engine 880 --gpu-memclock 1250 --gpu-powertune 20 -w 512 -I 18 -g 1

...

Hi,

I would try to lower the intensity a bit. Maybe try with -I 16 as a starting point.

newbie
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Hi,

I'm new to the whole mining scene but I'm already addicted.

I heard about Clever Mining from a friend of mine who recommended it because it was well run.

So I've been running a few tests over the last couple of days.

Unfortunately I seem to be getting a really heavy rejection rate - On two other pools over the last two weeks I've been getting around 0.3%, on Clever Mining its from 30-50%.

From what I've read in this thread, that could be due to the settings I have my machine on.

Would someone mind having a look at my settings and suggesting a few optimisations to reduce my rejection rate (or any optimisations in general, as I said, I'm still new)?

GPU

Asus 290x Direct CUII

Core Underclocked to 880
Memory Standard clock at 1250

running CGMiner with these settings

setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
--scrypt -o stratum+tcp://eu.clevermining.com:3333 -u xxx -p  --thread-concurrency 27400 --lookup-gap 2 --gpu-engine 880 --gpu-memclock 1250 --gpu-powertune 20 -w 512 -I 18 -g 1

I get a solid 730Kh/s (which I know isn't amazing for my card anyway) at 71'c.

Cheers,

OC
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Are you checking top line stats in cgminer/sgminer or individual GPU stats? The top line contains a known error as some miner software has issues with some of our pool responses and counts normal responses as rejects - but they aren't really rejects so it doesn't associate it to any GPU. Top line can show inflated rejects this way and per-GPU stats are what you want to check.

I don't understand about 70% of what you said, but I did figure out my exact problem. I have this card overclocked more than it's pre defined overclock and I forgot to set it back to default. Once I set my GPU back to it's default settings, I've hardly had a reject since. My accepts have almost caught up to the rejects now. I guess the card putting out tjust that much more power was messing things up for me. The best part of it all is that putting it back to default seems to have givin me a little boost in kh/s as well. I was getting around 525 like I mentioned earlier. Now it's sticking at a solid 572. Hardly goes up or down from there.

Now I know what things need to be at (including my GPU not being overclocked a little more than it is out of the box) will give me the best results. I'm really happy I found this pool. Everyone is very helpful here from what I've seen so far. Thanks for the help everyone! Happy mining! (for now, I go to sleep.)
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Are you checking top line stats in cgminer/sgminer or individual GPU stats? The top line contains a known error as some miner software has issues with some of our pool responses and counts normal responses as rejects - but they aren't really rejects so it doesn't associate it to any GPU. Top line can show inflated rejects this way and per-GPU stats are what you want to check.
newbie
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US West / San Francisco server is also back up.

San Francisco/US West server is down again.

Montreal/Canada is handling all US traffic and is doing it very well giving miners from all North America very low rejected ratio (1.5% average).

I wish I was having just 1.5% rejection rate. In the past couple hours of mining, my rejects outweigh my accepted around 2 to 1.

try turning down the intensity a little, see if it improves.  I started mine around the same time i sent that reply to you, and with GUIMINER running at an intensity level of 16, im at 175 accepted and 45 rejects (over 4 hours).

what does the website report your rejects at?

If I turn it down more, will that not lower the kh/s limit as well? Well I guess anyway it wouldn't matter if I got more stable shares at a slower rate. I left it to the defualt settings for the R9 280x. Which is 13. The rate seems to be evening out a little better now. I'm at31 accepted, 51 invalid. (took a little time out to use my PC for it's initial purpose of playing games lol. Mining has really cut into my ACIV time)
newbie
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Hope the server in Montreal sticks around.  That's been the best one for me yet.

I thought it would be good for me as well. Especially where I am so close to it. It's located in Monteral, and I am just 1 Provence over in New Brunswick lol. I was having much better luck with the west US server for the little while it was up.
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Hope the server in Montreal sticks around.  That's been the best one for me yet.
newbie
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US West / San Francisco server is also back up.

San Francisco/US West server is down again.

Montreal/Canada is handling all US traffic and is doing it very well giving miners from all North America very low rejected ratio (1.5% average).

I wish I was having just 1.5% rejection rate. In the past couple hours of mining, my rejects outweigh my accepted around 2 to 1.
hero member
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US West / San Francisco server is also back up.

San Francisco/US West server is down again.

Montreal/Canada is handling all US traffic and is doing it very well giving miners from all North America very low rejected ratio (1.5% average).
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Fine, later on then, but when does the dust ever settle around here?!  In the meantime I offer this suggestion.  General region based host names that average miners would typically use could redirect in the case of server outages (eu, us, na-north america if including canada I suppose, whatever)  More specific city, state, or country server host names stick to their respective servers (ny, sf, nl, montreal, etc.)  Just post the expected behavior for each host name on the web page server list.

My primary goal here is uninterrupted service and simplicity of use. Default behaviour needs to be as simple and requiring as little user configuration as possible, so I probably won't be changing it. Having region names (eu, us, etc) switching in case of server outages but server names (ny, sf) not switching will make it confusing for users who don't read detailed instructions, FAQs or hundred-page threads (basically most of users). I'm going to stick with consistency here and switch subdomain names as necessary.

Or give us alternate sticky server location host names if that's preferable to you.  It's obviously a bad practice for us to hard code ip addresses into our configurations as in light of ddos attacks they might need to be changed with little notice, but there is a comfortable middle ground somewhere to allow informed miners the ability to choose their own destiny during server outages, while simultaneously moving the rest of the herd over to a functional clevermining server.

This is something I could do and more informed users who'd like to have more control and can spend more time setting up failover plans could use it. I can provide alternate region names which won't be switched to another regions in case of outage (e.g.eu-fixed, na-fixed). I'm not sure though if there will be many people using it besides you.

That second option works just as well, and as long as there is some host name that does not move around, then that would be great.

And I would not underestimate your miners, Terk.  Some of the ones who understand what is going on are likely to have greater hashpower at their disposal, and are probably tweaking for maximum efficiency, including pool server failover priorities, as they have made larger investments.  And as many people are more polite than I sometimes choose to be, they might just be glad that I am asking, so they don't have to.

In my opinion, the perfect multicoin pool would only capture a miner's hashpower for as long as it believes it can be more profitable than baseline estimated earnings (in this case litecoin), and allow miners to automatically fail over elsewhere else after not finding any profitable opportunities for 5-10 minutes or so, but I understand that it is more profitable for a pool operator not to that, and how you might take a different position on this.  It is your pool so of course you can do whatever you want to, but sticky locality based server host names does not sound like much to ask for, as additional unexpected latency can affect miner efficiency.
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