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Topic: [ANN][AUTO-SWITCH] Profit-switch auto-exchange pool: CleverMining.com - page 278. (Read 554401 times)

member
Activity: 74
Merit: 10
Very high rejects rate and efficiency is low. Is that normal?

I got a total of 2,5 Mh/s, what should I expect to get accepted? i got very low hashrate reporting also. Why on the other pools its not like that?
My 10 CPU mines (5 to 30 kh/s) does not work, tested on one of them for 1 hour and got not a single accepted share, so the difficulty matters a lot on the switching.

I guess difficult should be based on the power kh/s of the client, setting it to 512 as standard kills the switch auto-profit and our (mine and your) money.

On your main page its written 125% LTC more profitable, but it based on all Kh/s or only accepted? If i get a reject rate of 10%, my earnings would be 125*0,9 = 112,5% of LTC.

Your stats page should update faster, 1 hour is so dam long.

what you guys think about it? what auto-switch pool is the best? they all work the same as that? I just started today on the auto-switch pool.

thanks Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 560
Merit: 250
why profit decreased????it depends on what?
what is diffrence between this and mining for example doge or another coin...
daily profit(overall) almost the same just in btc or we will get more profit?Huh? Embarrassed

im mining with 13mh on your pool but pool shows 8.22mh
newbie
Activity: 4
Merit: 0
hi, do this pool has any pool fee?


It has a small fee which has not been disclosed. All profit averages on the site include fees, so that is the actual amount you will earn.

I actually announced a fixed 2% fee couple of days ago. I might go back to progressive fee idea once I have time to work on it. I need to update the website to reflect recent changes.
thx, I'm now mining in your pool
& I think you should put the pool fee in prominent position of the website.

tengettack,

I'm not sure that fees are really relevant in switching pools, what really matters is what the payout per Mhash is.   After all, you don't go to a store and ask what their markup on a product is before you buy do you?   Just like you go to the store with the best price, use the switching pool with the best payout not the lowest fees.

CryptoSteve
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250
Power to the people!
my 5870 and 6950 get super high rejects here more so then on middlecoin with their 1024 diff any fixes i played with scantime,expiring and que didnt help my 7970x2 is doing good any ideas why the 5870 and 6950 perform so poor i even tried droping int to 16 from 19 didnt help either.

hero member
Activity: 798
Merit: 1000
You cannot use GUIMiner. Use GUIMiner-Scrypt or CGMiner.

i meant to say GUIMiner-Scrypt.
But i would type in the information that i wrote?

Thanks!

Yes, that is OK.
getting 100% rejects what am I doing wrong?

133wWUryHUizKnCtRvnqPUbz1TfLBcVebb

I think you are mining on SHA-256. What miner software are you using?

Hey admin,

Do your pool have any intelligent hash distribution system to mine small coins too?

As far as I know, it mines small coins, if they are easily tradable and at a very good profitability rate.
sr. member
Activity: 490
Merit: 250
Hey admin,

Do your pool have any intelligent hash distribution system to mine small coins too?
pjv
newbie
Activity: 25
Merit: 0
I don't know what's up with people getting so many rejects. This is after running for 12 hours or so:

https://i.imgur.com/0A9oR6D.png

here's my settings (running sgminer 4.1.0-15-gbe43):

Code:
"no-submit-stale" : false,
"no-pool-disable" : true,
"shares" : "0",
"auto-fan" : true,
"auto-gpu" : true,
"temp-cutoff" : "90",
"temp-overheat" : "79",
"temp-target" : "75",
"temp-hysteresis" : "1",
"worksize" : "256",
"lookup-gap" : "2",
"thread-concurrency" : "24000,24000",
"api-port" : "4028",
"gpu-dyninterval" : "7",
"gpu-platform" : "0",
"gpu-threads" : "1",
"intensity" : "20",
"gpu-engine" : "500-1200,300-1005",
"gpu-memclock" : "1575,1500",
"gpu-powertune" : "20",
"log" : "5",
"scrypt" : true,
"kernel" : "zuikkis",
"kernel-path" : "/opt/miners/cgminer/kernel"
full member
Activity: 190
Merit: 100
Hi, reject a setting that 5-6% for Asus DC2T Could you share? What is the payment limit?
newbie
Activity: 19
Merit: 0
getting 100% rejects what am I doing wrong?

133wWUryHUizKnCtRvnqPUbz1TfLBcVebb
jr. member
Activity: 60
Merit: 1
You cannot use GUIMiner. Use GUIMiner-Scrypt or CGMiner.

i meant to say GUIMiner-Scrypt.
But i would type in the information that i wrote?

Thanks!
jr. member
Activity: 60
Merit: 1
You cannot use GUIMiner. Use GUIMiner-Scrypt or CGMiner.

i meant to say GUIMiner-Scrypt.
But i would type in the information that i wrote?

Thanks!
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
Not to rain on your parade, but I just connected all 10.3 Mhash I have to your pool and I am getting more than 50% rejects. I have more rejects than I do in regular shares...that aint right. I dont know if youre having issues with your pool or whatnot, but its not my end because I never had a single pool give me those type of stats. I will let it run for a little bit, but so far its not looking good. I am on the East Coast by the way.

I do like your website and its transparency. Great design as well. I wanted to look for a Middlecoin alternative and yours seems to fit well, but the connection issues is something that might drive me away.
hero member
Activity: 798
Merit: 1000
Hello everybody!

I'm totally new to this, is it possible for me to use guiminer to mine in this pool?
If so, i would use,

Host:us.clevermining.com
Username: BTC adress
Port:3333
Password:Doesn't matter

Correct?

Sorry for the noob question btw, looking forward to really getting into the cryptocurrencies! Smiley

You cannot use GUIMiner. Use GUIMiner-Scrypt or CGMiner.
jr. member
Activity: 60
Merit: 1
Hello everybody!

I'm totally new to this, is it possible for me to use guiminer to mine in this pool?
If so, i would use,

Host:us.clevermining.com
Username: BTC adress
Port:3333
Password:Doesn't matter

Correct?

Sorry for the noob question btw, looking forward to really getting into the cryptocurrencies! Smiley
newbie
Activity: 48
Merit: 0
hi, do this pool has any pool fee?


It has a small fee which has not been disclosed. All profit averages on the site include fees, so that is the actual amount you will earn.

I actually announced a fixed 2% fee couple of days ago. I might go back to progressive fee idea once I have time to work on it. I need to update the website to reflect recent changes.
thx, I'm now mining in your pool
& I think you should put the pool fee in prominent position of the website.
newbie
Activity: 51
Merit: 0
FWIW, just as an alternate opinion on this issue, I don't require any of this kind of transparency at all to point my hashes at clevermining. I also don't need a well-designed website. I have hashed at middlecoin and at wafflepool and their pedestrian websites don't put me off at all. I do not care what coin the pool is mining at any given time. I really only care about maximizing my profit and I don't need @Terk to tell me how he is doing that as long as he is actually doing it. I also don't care what his fees are. If his fees are literally 5 times higher than the fees at middlecoin or wafflepool, but I am still banking more coin to my wallet, then I am happy to pay those fees. In my reality, there is no such thing as "fair" fees. If @Terk figures out how to get me more coins for my hashrate than I can get elsewhere, then he can charge me whatever he wants to put more coins in my wallet than I can get elsewhere.

The only transparency that I need is as follows:

1. The indisputable and irreversible BTC deposits into my wallet should match up with the claimed stats on the website
2. Nobody else who is mining at the pool should be reporting discrepancies in what they are actually being paid

For me, the reason that I am currently hashing at clevermining is that from the care of design of his website and from his responsiveness in this thread, I believe that @Terk is putting in a good-faith effort to create a more profitable pool and based on the quality of his work that I have seen so far, I think it is possible/probable that he may be better at it than others. But I will switch to another pool as soon as I don't believe that anymore.

So far, for me the results are still inconclusive. On the plus side the reported history of profitability looks to me a bit better than middlecoin and a fair bit better than wafflepool, though I don't think there is enough history yet for that to be conclusive. My own experience is that my daily earnings at clevermining have been roughly on par with my daily earnings at middlecoin - within the statistical noise that mining is. But that is also not conclusive to me because I haven't mined long enough at either pool to get past the statistical noise.

I'm not saying that you are not correct for yourself and others requiring the kind of transparency that you are asking for in order for clevermining to gain more hashers. You might be totally right about that. I'm just saying that that is not true for me. Given the ease of pointing one's miner at another pool at a moment's notice, I just utterly fail to see how @Terk could possibly be taking advantage or scamming anyone. As long as the payouts are hitting miner's wallets, I just don't see any space available for ripping anyone off. And obviously the moment the payouts are not happening, or are not competitive, it will be completely obvious to everyone and there will instantly be no more clevermining.

At absolute BEST, @Terk might be able to walk away with one day's take before everyone left. My guess is not even that. And given what he has obviously invested in sweat so far, my judgement is that he has much more financial incentive to make the results as competitive as possible and pull in his percentage for the long haul.

That's my 2c.

Very well said, don't get me wrong - I agree 100%. Personally, I am more than happy with CleverMining the way it is and love the site. It just pains me to see other new pools have such success and achieve over 1GH/s in a short amount of time while CleverMining struggles to get to 800 MH/s, even though I feel CM deserves the more hash.

The points I mentioned were simply the only reasoning I could come up with when thinking what it is these other pools have that CM doesn't...
hero member
Activity: 616
Merit: 522
I've been mining here for the last few days, but now I discovered I used my LTC address instead of my BTC address, so I didn't receive any pay outs. Is there a way I can still receive it, or do I just have to take my loss?

(My LTC address is Lhkqt64zX6E8SESssmELcSvynpCQgjD4zn and my BTC address is 1MQDYPuwQ7M9hbwitnwwLPHW7UzHQowQAT)

No worries. If you can prove that you own Lhkqt64zX6E8SESssmELcSvynpCQgjD4zn then I can change it to your bitcoin address. I'll send you a PM.
hero member
Activity: 616
Merit: 522
Average pool-wide rejected ratio is around 5-6% and it's normal on coin-switching pools.

If you experience higher rejected ratio, please read 2nd and 3rd part of this post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5063819
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
Is it possible to tweak the reject rate?

I'm about 15%...The worksize at 512 is too high? Is there some other parameter like scan-times, etc that influe on it?
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
After an 8 hour mining shift on Wafflepool my calculations show I definitely earned more on clevermining even with the higher reject / discard rate. Looks like ill be making cleverpool my primary.

Cheers.
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