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Elmit

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Quote from: haitch on September 27, 2015, 08:32:52 AM

Quote from: yeponlyone on September 27, 2015, 08:01:44 AM

But thanks for spending a few minutes of you valuable time to explain the above to a man who used computers since the mid-80. Cheesy

And my excuses to dear H.: I've gotten a better understanding of how it is trying to communicate with Elmit. To the community, it won't happen again. But please work on that Twittter account, I'm sure many would join

Yep, it's impossible to communicate with elmit - his entire digital presence is there to either spam people, or steal from them. When confronted about this, it attacks, often with slander, more often with bizarre allegations/claims. The dude needs to take his meds ....

Oh, and the twitter account - I've never used twitter in my life. The burst account Elmit references was mine, a test account with a really weak password - someone guessed it, and cleaned it out, haven't used it since. So I guess someone is trolling Elmit using my burst account - one thief trolling another thief - karma ....

What a lame excuse!

haitch

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Quote from: yeponlyone on September 27, 2015, 08:01:44 AM

But thanks for spending a few minutes of you valuable time to explain the above to a man who used computers since the mid-80. Cheesy

And my excuses to dear H.: I've gotten a better understanding of how it is trying to communicate with Elmit. To the community, it won't happen again. But please work on that Twittter account, I'm sure many would join

Yep, it's impossible to communicate with elmit - his entire digital presence is there to either spam people, or steal from them. When confronted about this, it attacks, often with slander, more often with bizarre allegations/claims. The dude needs to take his meds ....

Oh, and the twitter account - I've never used twitter in my life. The burst account Elmit references was mine, a test account with a really weak password - someone guessed it, and cleaned it out, haven't used it since. So I guess someone is trolling Elmit using my burst account - one thief trolling another thief - karma ....

yeponlyone

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Quote from: Elmit on September 27, 2015, 07:15:11 AM

Quote from: yeponlyone on September 27, 2015, 06:48:11 AM

Ah, thank you, it didn't show up when I search for it (I even c/p). BTW, how come it's not possible to follow this funny chap?

The first question remains to un-answered but please let that go.

On a PC you need to:

mark the text string you want to copy (click with your left mouse button on the first character of the string, keep pressing down the left mouse button and drag the mouse pointer to the end of the string to copy. - It works also from right to left!)
CTRL-C = I use my left little finger on the key marked as "Ctrl" and click with the index finger on "c" - another variant is to use the right little finger
Some people have difficulty with CTRL-C, they might just use the right mouse button on the marked string and select from the drop down menu Copy
Switch to the place you want to copy the string to and use CTRL-V (or click there and use right mouse button to select Paste

(c/p) = Copy/paste, but thanks for spending a few minutes explain that to a man who used computers since the mid-80s. Cheesy

For some people it is confusing to talk about C-oppy and P-aste, when you use CTRL-C and CTRL-V

On Linux it is the same, but sometimes the copied string seems to be "empty". In such case I paste the string to a text window first and copy it from there.
There is also often the need to add SHIFT to the finger combination.

I do not own a Mac, so maybe somebody else can give you a hint how to copy and paste.

Rest of your text sounds not really English to me, but forgive me I am not a native English speaker, ...

(c/p) =copy/paste

But thanks for spending a few minutes of you valuable time to explain the above to a man who used computers since the mid-80. Cheesy

And my excuses to dear H.: I've gotten a better understanding of how it is trying to communicate with Elmit. To the community, it won't happen again. But please work on that Twittter account, I'm sure many would join

Erkallys

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Quote from: Elmit on September 26, 2015, 10:52:38 AM

Looking at my wallet I see at the right side:

Recent Blocks
Height   Date   Amount + Fee   # TX
146998   9/26/2015 22:44:25   3'338.41831589 + 13     13
146997   9/26/2015 22:37:45   0 + 0   0
146996   9/26/2015 22:37:38   0 + 0   0
146995   9/26/2015 22:34:39   4'498.26915206 + 8     8
146994   9/26/2015 22:30:17   1 + 1   1
146993   9/26/2015 22:28:41   6'382.35132008 + 14     14
146992   9/26/2015 22:25:39   0 + 0   0
146991   9/26/2015 22:25:29   0 + 0   0
146990   9/26/2015 22:23:26   0 + 0   0
146989   9/26/2015 22:15:02   0.00000001 + 1     1

Can anybody explain what are "Amount + Fee" and "# TX" represent?

I am not an expert but 0+0 means "total coins sent in this block"+"for how much fees" (this is a tips to know how much transactions because fees are generally 1 BURST). #TX means "how much transactions". Like said before #TX an fees are most of the time the sames.

Elmit

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BURST got Smart Contracts (AT)

Quote from: yeponlyone on September 27, 2015, 06:48:11 AM

Ah, thank you, it didn't show up when I search for it (I even c/p). BTW, how come it's not possible to follow this funny chap?

The first question remains to un-answered but please let that go.

On a PC you need to:

mark the text string you want to copy (click with your left mouse button on the first character of the string, keep pressing down the left mouse button and drag the mouse pointer to the end of the string to copy. - It works also from right to left!)
CTRL-C = I use my left little finger on the key marked as "Ctrl" and click with the index finger on "c" - another variant is to use the right little finger
Some people have difficulty with CTRL-C, they might just use the right mouse button on the marked string and select from the drop down menu Copy
Switch to the place you want to copy the string to and use CTRL-V (or click there and use right mouse button to select Paste

For some people it is confusing to talk about C-oppy and P-aste, when you use CTRL-C and CTRL-V

On Linux it is the same, but sometimes the copied string seems to be "empty". In such case I paste the string to a text window first and copy it from there.
There is also often the need to add SHIFT to the finger combination.

I do not own a Mac, so maybe somebody else can give you a hint how to copy and paste.

Rest of your text sounds not really English to me, but forgive me I am not a native English speaker, ...

Elmit

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BURST got Smart Contracts (AT)

Quote from: yeponlyone on September 27, 2015, 06:48:11 AM

Quote from: Elmit on September 27, 2015, 06:38:52 AM

Quote from: yeponlyone on September 27, 2015, 06:31:00 AM

Quote from: Elmit on September 27, 2015, 04:25:24 AM

A funny faucet story:

Somebody, not named here, but you can guess it, created a brand new Twitter account with the user name "ElmitIsAThief" - That already says who it is.

What on earth and in space make you think other people are interested of this not-funny faucet story at all...? And there are no "ElmitIsAThief" account registered.

Take meds. Get help.

(your quote updated:)

What on earth and in space make you think other people are interested of this comment at all...? And there is a "ElmitIsAThief" account registered:

https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&q=ElmitIsAThief&src=typd

Take meds. Get help.

Ah, thank you, it didn't show up when I search for it (I even c/p). BTW, how come it's not possible to follow this funny chap?

The first question remains to un-answered but please let that go.

That makes now the original and your answer "funny".

Let's return to some more directly BURST issues:

Pool Statistics
Current time: 2015-09-27 10:57:19 UTC
Block: 147,298
Difficulty: 8,160
Est. Networksize (PB): 8.5568621059419

It seems that all these hard disks that were supposed to go online over the last week could not be plotted and are not mining yet.

yeponlyone

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Quote from: Elmit on September 27, 2015, 06:38:52 AM

Quote from: yeponlyone on September 27, 2015, 06:31:00 AM

Quote from: Elmit on September 27, 2015, 04:25:24 AM

A funny faucet story:

Somebody, not named here, but you can guess it, created a brand new Twitter account with the user name "ElmitIsAThief" - That already says who it is.

What on earth and in space make you think other people are interested of this not-funny faucet story at all...? And there are no "ElmitIsAThief" account registered.

Take meds. Get help.

(your quote updated:)

What on earth and in space make you think other people are interested of this comment at all...? And there is a "ElmitIsAThief" account registered:

https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&q=ElmitIsAThief&src=typd

Take meds. Get help.

Ah, thank you, it didn't show up when I search for it (I even c/p). BTW, how come it's not possible to follow this funny chap?

The first question remains to un-answered but please let that go.

Elmit

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BURST got Smart Contracts (AT)

Quote from: yeponlyone on September 27, 2015, 06:31:00 AM

Quote from: Elmit on September 27, 2015, 04:25:24 AM

A funny faucet story:

Somebody, not named here, but you can guess it, created a brand new Twitter account with the user name "ElmitIsAThief" - That already says who it is.

What on earth and in space make you think other people are interested of this not-funny faucet story at all...? And there are no "ElmitIsAThief" account registered.

Take meds. Get help.

(your quote updated:)

What on earth and in space make you think other people are interested of this comment at all...? And there is a "ElmitIsAThief" account registered:

https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&q=ElmitIsAThief&src=typd

Take meds. Get help.

yeponlyone

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Quote from: Elmit on September 27, 2015, 04:25:24 AM

A funny faucet story:

Somebody, not named here, but you can guess it, created a brand new Twitter account with the user name "ElmitIsAThief" - That already says who it is.

What on earth and in space make you think other people are interested of this not-funny faucet story at all...? And there are no "ElmitIsAThief" account registered.

Take meds. Get help.

Elmit

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BURST got Smart Contracts (AT)

A funny faucet story:

Somebody, not named here, but you can guess it, created a brand new Twitter account with the user name "ElmitIsAThief" - That already says who it is.

He needed an email account for that as well. Twitter does not accept an already used email account.

He gained 4 BURSTs !!!! - makes me laugh even more!

I assume to create, verify an email / Twitter account takes 2 minutes.

He followed the instruction to post on this Twitter account the message:
#MiningHere Thank you for giving me free BURSTs to mine at: burst . mininghere . com *BURST-FRDZ-SDVY-RQND-DV6UH
... which is seen by exactly ZERO followers!!!!

If he would have used the same BURST address in the faucet again, he would have seen the message:

Congratulations!
BURST-FRDZ-SDVY-RQND-DV6UH has received 4 BURSTs at 2015-09-25 12:55:16
See details: https://block.burstcoin.info/tx.php?tx=254234699468028181

If you want to solve the puzzle (and could not guess by now who it might have been), click the link, to know WHO got a "salary" of 4 BURSTs / 2 minutes
which is at the current rate of 0.06539963 US$ per 1000 BURSTs and a monthly working hour of 170 hours:

4 x 60/2 x 170 x 0.06539963/1000 = 0.019619889 US$ /month

Congratulations!!! You made my day!!!

Elmit

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BURST got Smart Contracts (AT)

Quote from: Merick on September 26, 2015, 08:17:53 PM

Quote from: atomy1world on September 26, 2015, 07:36:09 PM

Quote from: jwinterm on September 26, 2015, 11:00:59 AM

Quote from: Elmit on September 26, 2015, 10:52:38 AM

Looking at my wallet I see at the right side:

Recent Blocks
Height   Date   Amount + Fee   # TX
146998   9/26/2015 22:44:25   3'338.41831589 + 13     13
146997   9/26/2015 22:37:45   0 + 0   0
146996   9/26/2015 22:37:38   0 + 0   0
146995   9/26/2015 22:34:39   4'498.26915206 + 8     8
146994   9/26/2015 22:30:17   1 + 1   1
146993   9/26/2015 22:28:41   6'382.35132008 + 14     14
146992   9/26/2015 22:25:39   0 + 0   0
146991   9/26/2015 22:25:29   0 + 0   0
146990   9/26/2015 22:23:26   0 + 0   0
146989   9/26/2015 22:15:02   0.00000001 + 1     1

Can anybody explain what are "Amount + Fee" and "# TX" represent?

I don't even load the wallet more than once every few months at most, but I'm 99% sure amount + fee represents the amount of burst being transferred in that block, fee is the total amount of fees the miner would collect, and # TX is the number of transactions in that block. Aren't you supposed to be like a BURST expert, Elmit? How the hell do you not know this? Is this a trick question? Am I taking crazy pills right now?!

More details please.

0 + 0 = Block Reward that contains no actual coin movement transactions and no fees hence 0+0 -> http://burstcoin.biz/block/18222497988761196557

924.59 + 3 = Transaction that contained 924.59 total burst with 3 burst in transaction fees --> http://burstcoin.biz/block/1295872611599758289

1 + 1 = Transaction were 1 burst was moved with a 1 burst transaction fee --> http://burstcoin.biz/block/9303499655229736371

X + Y

X = Total Burst contained in the transaction
Y = Total fees attached to that transaction

0+0 is a special case, a block was found but there were no transactions to record within that block

Lets look at Block

147131 http://burstcoin.biz/block/18222497988761196557
or
14134 http://burstcoin.biz/block/15261602898072851657

These look like blocks that were solved but there were not any actual transactions to record during that block reward time period. 147131 is solo mined, 14134 is pool mined, and found on the Burst.ninja pool. If you dig into the block chain a little deeper you can probably find when Burst.ninja actual made payments its miners for this block, and those payments would be on a block with an X + Y type identifier were X & Y !=0. The act of paying the miners requires a transaction to be recorded.

A 0 + 1 type identifier is probably a message, reward recipient change or some other utility that requires a fee but no transaction payload.

Happy Bursting

thank you for your explanation.
I guess the 0+1 could be also a message.
In these 10 blocks were only 37 BURSTs transaction fee. As I understand would that be the fee - or ONLY rewards for the miners, when all coins are mined.
That is pretty low!!!

When I looked before at the right side of the wallet, I thought that the reward is also included, ... seeing now more 0 made me wondering.

yeponlyone

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Is it possible to re-code Burst's marketplace into something like this: https://cryptothrift.com

Compared to Burst's, they look attractive. They even claim to have escrow (and offer... pictures!). If possible, do Burst have any qualified coders to be inspired by them but adding AT...?

Merick

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Quote from: atomy1world on September 26, 2015, 07:36:09 PM

Quote from: jwinterm on September 26, 2015, 11:00:59 AM

Quote from: Elmit on September 26, 2015, 10:52:38 AM

Looking at my wallet I see at the right side:

Recent Blocks
Height   Date   Amount + Fee   # TX
146998   9/26/2015 22:44:25   3'338.41831589 + 13     13
146997   9/26/2015 22:37:45   0 + 0   0
146996   9/26/2015 22:37:38   0 + 0   0
146995   9/26/2015 22:34:39   4'498.26915206 + 8     8
146994   9/26/2015 22:30:17   1 + 1   1
146993   9/26/2015 22:28:41   6'382.35132008 + 14     14
146992   9/26/2015 22:25:39   0 + 0   0
146991   9/26/2015 22:25:29   0 + 0   0
146990   9/26/2015 22:23:26   0 + 0   0
146989   9/26/2015 22:15:02   0.00000001 + 1     1

Can anybody explain what are "Amount + Fee" and "# TX" represent?

I don't even load the wallet more than once every few months at most, but I'm 99% sure amount + fee represents the amount of burst being transferred in that block, fee is the total amount of fees the miner would collect, and # TX is the number of transactions in that block. Aren't you supposed to be like a BURST expert, Elmit? How the hell do you not know this? Is this a trick question? Am I taking crazy pills right now?!

More details please.

0 + 0 = Block Reward that contains no actual coin movement transactions and no fees hence 0+0 -> http://burstcoin.biz/block/18222497988761196557

924.59 + 3 = Transaction that contained 924.59 total burst with 3 burst in transaction fees --> http://burstcoin.biz/block/1295872611599758289

1 + 1 = Transaction were 1 burst was moved with a 1 burst transaction fee --> http://burstcoin.biz/block/9303499655229736371

X + Y

X = Total Burst contained in the transaction
Y = Total fees attached to that transaction

0+0 is a special case, a block was found but there were no transactions to record within that block

Lets look at Block

147131 http://burstcoin.biz/block/18222497988761196557
or
14134 http://burstcoin.biz/block/15261602898072851657

These look like blocks that were solved but there were not any actual transactions to record during that block reward time period. 147131 is solo mined, 14134 is pool mined, and found on the Burst.ninja pool. If you dig into the block chain a little deeper you can probably find when Burst.ninja actual made payments its miners for this block, and those payments would be on a block with an X + Y type identifier were X & Y !=0. The act of paying the miners requires a transaction to be recorded.

A 0 + 1 type identifier is probably a message, reward recipient change or some other utility that requires a fee but no transaction payload.

Happy Bursting

jwinterm

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Quote from: Elmit on September 26, 2015, 07:29:22 PM

Quote from: jwinterm on September 26, 2015, 11:00:59 AM

Quote from: Elmit on September 26, 2015, 10:52:38 AM

Looking at my wallet I see at the right side:

Recent Blocks
Height   Date   Amount + Fee   # TX
146998   9/26/2015 22:44:25   3'338.41831589 + 13     13
146997   9/26/2015 22:37:45   0 + 0   0
146996   9/26/2015 22:37:38   0 + 0   0
146995   9/26/2015 22:34:39   4'498.26915206 + 8     8
146994   9/26/2015 22:30:17   1 + 1   1
146993   9/26/2015 22:28:41   6'382.35132008 + 14     14
146992   9/26/2015 22:25:39   0 + 0   0
146991   9/26/2015 22:25:29   0 + 0   0
146990   9/26/2015 22:23:26   0 + 0   0
146989   9/26/2015 22:15:02   0.00000001 + 1     1

Can anybody explain what are "Amount + Fee" and "# TX" represent?

I don't even load the wallet more than once every few months at most, but I'm 99% sure amount + fee represents the amount of burst being transferred in that block, fee is the total amount of fees the miner would collect, and # TX is the number of transactions in that block. Aren't you supposed to be like a BURST expert, Elmit? How the hell do you not know this? Is this a trick question? Am I taking crazy pills right now?!

That's is what makes this thread so exciting.
I could not spot the answer to my question, but insult = the best advertisement for BURSTs, right?
So, newcomers will know to stay away from this coins, because asking anything will bring up such "non-answers".
It is not a shame NOT to know it, but then just keep your "non-answer" for yourself and let people talk who might know the answer.

So, you do not even load the wallet anymore. Means you gave up mining, give up using BURSTs, ...., or you are not interested anymore in the balance, or is it just, that you do not know what you see there?

Now, explain me the details to it:
What means 0+0, 1+1, ...

Does these now more frequently "0+0" mean, that the coin is used less and less?

Do you want to say that you bought "crazy pills" with BURSTs?

...

I never mined BURST, I just like the idea of a NXT clone with a quasi-PoW distribution, so I only sync my wallet occasionally.

Sorry, I didn't mean to insult you, but this is pretty basic stuff, and you do purport to be a kind of high level BURST user running a pool and issuing assets and stuff.

0+0 means there are 0 BURST included as transactions in the block with 0 BURST in fees. 1+1 would mean that there is 1 BURST in the block with 1 BURST in tx fees.

If you see 0+0 more frequently, then yes, that means there are fewer transactions on the network.

I wish I could buy some crazy pills with BURST, did someone list them on the marketplace? Tongue

BurstIncomeAsset

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Quote from: Elmit on September 26, 2015, 07:34:17 PM

The BURST community would need a educational pump first. See just the message before this one. With insults you do not win people. You only make them go away.

Well i`d leave the public relations to more veteran people than myself. I was just suggesting that a small promotional trick like that could bring more users here.

We are now ready to expand the INCOME fund, I will start the NXT branch of it tomorrow after I downloaded the full blockchain (it might take some time). After we hit NXT, expect the fund to grow faster, I`ve already contacted some asset managers from NXT that would be happy to invest in us.

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Quote from: jwinterm on September 26, 2015, 11:00:59 AM

Quote from: Elmit on September 26, 2015, 10:52:38 AM

Looking at my wallet I see at the right side:

Recent Blocks
Height   Date   Amount + Fee   # TX
146998   9/26/2015 22:44:25   3'338.41831589 + 13     13
146997   9/26/2015 22:37:45   0 + 0   0
146996   9/26/2015 22:37:38   0 + 0   0
146995   9/26/2015 22:34:39   4'498.26915206 + 8     8
146994   9/26/2015 22:30:17   1 + 1   1
146993   9/26/2015 22:28:41   6'382.35132008 + 14     14
146992   9/26/2015 22:25:39   0 + 0   0
146991   9/26/2015 22:25:29   0 + 0   0
146990   9/26/2015 22:23:26   0 + 0   0
146989   9/26/2015 22:15:02   0.00000001 + 1     1

Can anybody explain what are "Amount + Fee" and "# TX" represent?

I don't even load the wallet more than once every few months at most, but I'm 99% sure amount + fee represents the amount of burst being transferred in that block, fee is the total amount of fees the miner would collect, and # TX is the number of transactions in that block. Aren't you supposed to be like a BURST expert, Elmit? How the hell do you not know this? Is this a trick question? Am I taking crazy pills right now?!

More details please.

Elmit

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BURST got Smart Contracts (AT)

Quote from: BurstIncomeAsset on September 26, 2015, 05:31:19 PM

Quote from: go6ooo1212 on September 25, 2015, 06:31:30 PM

Quote from: BurstIncomeAsset on September 25, 2015, 04:31:02 PM

The BURST price can really use a pump now, the price is pretty low and it won't stay this low for long time because after we will get more projects on the start, it will start to rush up.

Any plans to promote BURST? I got one if anybody is interested, and it doesn't cost anybody anything.

I'm still on the boat , so I'm interested in...

Very simple.

1) Put BURST & this thread in your personal space below the avatar, and in your signature, with link to this thread.
2) Put a BURST picture as your profile picture
3) Post in different threads too. I noticed that people who post here only post here, they should post in other threads too, with 1) and 2) setup, so that you can promote burst
4) Talk in other threads about BURST, like many cryptocurrency threads.

Do all of them from 1-4, and BURST will have more users. It's free, and it's effective.

The BURST community would need a educational pump first. See just the message before this one. With insults you do not win people. You only make them go away.

Elmit

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BURST got Smart Contracts (AT)

Quote from: jwinterm on September 26, 2015, 11:00:59 AM

Quote from: Elmit on September 26, 2015, 10:52:38 AM

Looking at my wallet I see at the right side:

Recent Blocks
Height   Date   Amount + Fee   # TX
146998   9/26/2015 22:44:25   3'338.41831589 + 13     13
146997   9/26/2015 22:37:45   0 + 0   0
146996   9/26/2015 22:37:38   0 + 0   0
146995   9/26/2015 22:34:39   4'498.26915206 + 8     8
146994   9/26/2015 22:30:17   1 + 1   1
146993   9/26/2015 22:28:41   6'382.35132008 + 14     14
146992   9/26/2015 22:25:39   0 + 0   0
146991   9/26/2015 22:25:29   0 + 0   0
146990   9/26/2015 22:23:26   0 + 0   0
146989   9/26/2015 22:15:02   0.00000001 + 1     1

Can anybody explain what are "Amount + Fee" and "# TX" represent?

I don't even load the wallet more than once every few months at most, but I'm 99% sure amount + fee represents the amount of burst being transferred in that block, fee is the total amount of fees the miner would collect, and # TX is the number of transactions in that block. Aren't you supposed to be like a BURST expert, Elmit? How the hell do you not know this? Is this a trick question? Am I taking crazy pills right now?!

That's is what makes this thread so exciting.
I could not spot the answer to my question, but insult = the best advertisement for BURSTs, right?
So, newcomers will know to stay away from this coins, because asking anything will bring up such "non-answers".
It is not a shame NOT to know it, but then just keep your "non-answer" for yourself and let people talk who might know the answer.

So, you do not even load the wallet anymore. Means you gave up mining, give up using BURSTs, ...., or you are not interested anymore in the balance, or is it just, that you do not know what you see there?

Now, explain me the details to it:
What means 0+0, 1+1, ...

Does these now more frequently "0+0" mean, that the coin is used less and less?

Do you want to say that you bought "crazy pills" with BURSTs?

Code:

Pool Statistics
Current time: 2015-09-26 23:28:28 UTC
Block: 147,123
Difficulty: 5,612
Est. Networksize (PB): 5.8842981432422

BURST.MiningHere.com
Pool balance: 78,346
Registered Miners: 537

burst.ninja
Pool balance: 21,574
Registered Miners: 419

burst.poolto.be
Pool balance: 315
Registered Miners: 259

cryptomining.farm
Pool balance: 129,201
Registered Miners: 1,601

DevPool v2
Pool balance: 600,937
Registered Miners: 558

mining.tompool.org
Pool balance: 270
Registered Miners: 58

pool.blago
Pool balance: 612
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Quote from: kleinstein on September 26, 2015, 05:01:50 AM

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Quote from: crowetic on September 25, 2015, 10:27:06 AM

I'm running quite a few Seagate 4 and 5 TB external drives, been running quite a while without issue.

I bought them because the price was right Cool

. As far as I can tell BURST has done zero damage to them.

Everything is still running exactly the way it should be.

I bought recently four 8TB HDD of Segate. One was broken directly, one has displayed an error after about four weeks in RAID.
Two and a exchanged run until now well so far.

The super cheap "archive" drives must be used with some care. I have found that if you throw too much data at them too fast, then they totally freeze up, sometimes crashing windows 10 along with themselves. They can go silent and not show up in disk manager for hours if they first get stressed out. Not sure if it is thermal or cache/firmware issues or both.

in any way, if i don't push data to them too hard ( no copy these 4TB plots onto this 8TB drive kinda operations ) then they work just fine.. i use the free program FastCopy to copy stuff in a slow pace onto the drives ( fastcopy can be set up to run at reduced speed, i use 50% setting)

when an archive drive has been stressed to become unstable, even reading from it is a bitch, it cannot sustain any kind of reasonable transfer rate.. but if you keep it on for some hours or longer, it tend to sort itself out again. Also filling the drive up completely seems to make it go berserk.

Haven't tried to have burst plots on archive drives, but i guess it will be allright perhaps as long as you leave some room on the drive to make the firmware happy. Don't copy your plots over at full speed though, they choke on 100 mb/s for more than 20-40GB at a time. If you copy slowly ( using fastcopy or similar ) you can copy hundreds of MB wo issues

With small chunks of data ( 5-10 MB ) you can copy as fast as the SATA allows you to, they are fine with that. As I understand it, they use part of the platters for intermediate storage, and as long as you don't fill that up, they are pretty fast.

It was the archive one.
But the first drive was broken on first connection, so there wasn't a fault on my side.
The second drive was broken after a short power cut (but there wasn't any writeoperation active at this moment).

I never hab problems while writing to this disks, as long as you consider that these hard drives, because of the technology, are a bit slower at writing than conventional drives.

the archive drives use firmware controlled smr tech. simply explained during the write operations already written blocks get "rewritten" which requires some additional time for the drive to complete.
this is required due to the higher density which brings greater read performance. during tests with twelve drives in a raid i experienced kernel timeouts on almost any write load.
even a simple mirror had worse performance due to "synchronized" writes on two drives (the md driver waited for both drives to become ready again).
the best setup with continous write performance of around 80mb/s i archive with glusterfs which has each drive configured as own brick.
within the smart settings those drives dont offer much settings to gain better performance. once the data is written to it it may be a good thing to put them with the smart controls into a read only drive.
this prevents the os to update metadata on the drive and may have internal affords which hits the performance in a positive way hard.

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Quote from: go6ooo1212 on September 25, 2015, 06:31:30 PM

Quote from: BurstIncomeAsset on September 25, 2015, 04:31:02 PM

The BURST price can really use a pump now, the price is pretty low and it won't stay this low for long time because after we will get more projects on the start, it will start to rush up.

Any plans to promote BURST? I got one if anybody is interested, and it doesn't cost anybody anything.

I'm still on the boat , so I'm interested in...

Very simple.

1) Put BURST & this thread in your personal space below the avatar, and in your signature, with link to this thread.
2) Put a BURST picture as your profile picture
3) Post in different threads too. I noticed that people who post here only post here, they should post in other threads too, with 1) and 2) setup, so that you can promote burst
4) Talk in other threads about BURST, like many cryptocurrency threads.

Do all of them from 1-4, and BURST will have more users. It's free, and it's effective.

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