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I have a question (perhaps for the PR team?). Why burst still not listed in more major exchange like bter and crypsty ? Trade volume have increase over the months. Many scam coins got added to bter and crypsty i wonder why legit coin like burst don't get listed after so many months. Maybe we should set a target to get listed on those exchange and more exchange after that to increase exposure. Remember bitcoin started off with only 1 major exchange (mt gox) and slowly grow with more exchange. If bitcoin were to remain with only 1 exchange (mt gox) it will be in the history book. We need more exchange for burst, especially the bigger one.

Since I have started with BURST I have not gone back to Cryptsy,  even if BURST was listed there, why choose Cryptsy over Poloniex?  Poloniex's interface and deposits are so much smoother. But ya, more exchanges are always good.

And on a side note, what other alt coin offers home mining with standard consumer hardware that doesn't pollute your home with noise and heat.  If a home miner wanted to expand into a semi-large or large scale mining operation he/she could easily do so with items purchased from major retailers and endure not much more than the calming click of hard-drive seek every ~4min.  Why choose a GPU or ASIC coin to mine from home when you can choose BURST.  I'm sure a few data centers may get involved in this coin but what different is that when compared to the large mining farms BTC has.  When the BURST mining software evolves enough to make the setup process smoother, a large community adoption can easily offset any threat data-centers may pose to the BURST network.

Litecoin was once the working-class coin, Silver to BTC Gold, the ASIC industry killed that.  I don't see why BURST will not be in a position to dethrone LTC from that position in 1-2 years and with all of the growth and benefits offered by crypto 2.0 who knows how far this technology will go once it has matured.  This coin is only ~6months old,  I wonder what things will be like this time next year.  No longer will you be tied to the predatory practices of pre-orders or relying on one or two companies to improve mining technology.  As storage technologies naturally improve so will the BURST network.

This is why I have chosen BURST as my mining hobby. And if it all collapses, at least I have some nice storage drives for my home movie collection Wink


GO BURST!!

More exchange = More choice

Different people have different circumstances which leads them to choose different exchange (which explain why all those exchange survive till now even though they are not as good as other). By having more exchange , we allow more choice which in turn allow wide variety of investor. Existing investor will most probably not change to trade at new exchange but new exchange will definitely bring in new investor. Even 1 new investor is good. We never know that 1 new investor could be a giant whale who only trade on cryptsy / bter due to whatever reason. We should take every chance we got to improve burst exposure.
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I have a question (perhaps for the PR team?). Why burst still not listed in more major exchange like bter and crypsty ? Trade volume have increase over the months. Many scam coins got added to bter and crypsty i wonder why legit coin like burst don't get listed after so many months. Maybe we should set a target to get listed on those exchange and more exchange after that to increase exposure. Remember bitcoin started off with only 1 major exchange (mt gox) and slowly grow with more exchange. If bitcoin were to remain with only 1 exchange (mt gox) it will be in the history book. We need more exchange for burst, especially the bigger one.

Since I have started with BURST I have not gone back to Cryptsy,  even if BURST was listed there, why choose Cryptsy over Poloniex?  Poloniex's interface and deposits are so much smoother. But ya, more exchanges are always good.

And on a side note, what other alt coin offers home mining with standard consumer hardware that doesn't pollute your home with noise and heat.  If a home miner wanted to expand into a semi-large or large scale mining operation he/she could easily do so with items purchased from major retailers and endure not much more than the calming click of hard-drive seek every ~4min.  Why choose a GPU or ASIC coin to mine from home when you can choose BURST.  I'm sure a few data centers may get involved in this coin but what different is that when compared to the large mining farms BTC has.  When the BURST mining software evolves enough to make the setup process smoother, a large community adoption can easily offset any threat data-centers may pose to the BURST network.

Litecoin was once the working-class coin, Silver to BTC Gold, the ASIC industry killed that.  I don't see why BURST will not be in a position to dethrone LTC from that position in 1-2 years and with all of the growth and benefits offered by crypto 2.0 who knows how far this technology will go once it has matured.  This coin is only ~6months old,  I wonder what things will be like this time next year.  No longer will you be tied to the predatory practices of pre-orders or relying on one or two companies to improve mining technology.  As storage technologies naturally improve so will the BURST network.

This is why I have chosen BURST as my mining hobby. And if it all collapses, at least I have some nice storage drives for my home movie collection Wink


GO BURST!!
hero member
Activity: 868
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I have a question (perhaps for the PR team?). Why burst still not listed in more major exchange like bter and crypsty ? Trade volume have increase over the months. Many scam coins got added to bter and crypsty i wonder why legit coin like burst don't get listed after so many months. Maybe we should set a target to get listed on those exchange and more exchange after that to increase exposure. Remember bitcoin started off with only 1 major exchange (mt gox) and slowly grow with more exchange. If bitcoin were to remain with only 1 exchange (mt gox) it will be in the history book. We need more exchange for burst, especially the bigger one.
legendary
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How is this an investment, what does the coin do?  It would be great if there was online harddrive space you could use with more coins that you buy or mine.  

What are people going to use this coin for that the other 700 altcoins or BTC or LTC don't offer?

I'm holding a few million BURST and I'm wondering where it's all going.



I should say good-buy. This coin is very promising and a really good investment...

Because it has done what others say they will do but have been unable to do with Market caps much larger.
Of course I am referring to Automated Transactions and Smart Contracts.

This coin is so undervalued its scary.
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I'm up no the news still don't see what this offers long term.  Yeah yeah send me your coins, good one, never heard it before. 

How is this an investment, what does the coin do?  It would be great if there was online harddrive space you could use with more coins that you buy or mine.  

What are people going to use this coin for that the other 700 altcoins or BTC or LTC don't offer?

I'm holding a few million BURST and I'm wondering where it's all going.



I should say good-buy. This coin is very promising and a really good investment...

I guess you missed the news. Burst is the first and, currently, the only coin to offer Automated Transactions aka Smart Contracts.

Something we are waiting for 15mil ICO Ethereum project to deliver you can have now by using Burst. All that powered by burstdev, ciyam and vbcs, not ICO $.

If this is not convincing enough for you, feel free to send me your millions. I'll gladly take them

EDIT: Cloud storage is planned for the future, though it will take some time to work it out.
If still willing, send Burst here BURST-K84W-LWVZ-B727-67WUL Smiley

Was not trying to be original there, I think it is a legitimate option to hand your stuff away if you're through with something.

While I am familiar with many criticisms of smart contracts, they indeed could pose a major development going long term.

Basically, you could trustlessly do many of the things that require intermediaries and their fees. Such as lawyers for example.

You can start off your reading here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_contract
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I'm up no the news still don't see what this offers long term.  Yeah yeah send me your coins, good one, never heard it before. 

How is this an investment, what does the coin do?  It would be great if there was online harddrive space you could use with more coins that you buy or mine.  

What are people going to use this coin for that the other 700 altcoins or BTC or LTC don't offer?

I'm holding a few million BURST and I'm wondering where it's all going.



I should say good-buy. This coin is very promising and a really good investment...

I guess you missed the news. Burst is the first and, currently, the only coin to offer Automated Transactions aka Smart Contracts.

Something we are waiting for 15mil ICO Ethereum project to deliver you can have now by using Burst. All that powered by burstdev, ciyam and vbcs, not ICO $.

If this is not convincing enough for you, feel free to send me your millions. I'll gladly take them

EDIT: Cloud storage is planned for the future, though it will take some time to work it out.
If still willing, send Burst here BURST-K84W-LWVZ-B727-67WUL Smiley
hero member
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How is this an investment, what does the coin do?  It would be great if there was online harddrive space you could use with more coins that you buy or mine.  

What are people going to use this coin for that the other 700 altcoins or BTC or LTC don't offer?

I'm holding a few million BURST and I'm wondering where it's all going.



I should say good-buy. This coin is very promising and a really good investment...

I guess you missed the news. Burst is the first and, currently, the only coin to offer Automated Transactions aka Smart Contracts.

Something we are waiting for 15mil ICO Ethereum project to deliver you can have now by using Burst. All that powered by burstdev, ciyam and vbcs, not ICO $.

If this is not convincing enough for you, feel free to send me your millions. I'll gladly take them

EDIT: Cloud storage is planned for the future, though it will take some time to work it out.
If still willing, send Burst here BURST-K84W-LWVZ-B727-67WUL Smiley
legendary
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With the update do you have to download the entire blockchain again?  If so, I'm not doing it, I'm saying goodbye to this coin, sorry.

lol no you certainly don't have to download again.  It would be absurd to think we have AT, but no way to preserve blockchain throughout updates. Smiley  Take the "burst_db" folder from the old version folder, and cut/paste it into the update that you've downloaded.  And that's it.  You can run your wallet using the new run.bat, and will only need to download the few blocks that you're behind on.

Edit: from the op: "After running wallet, access it through a web browser at http://localhost:8125 When upgrading wallet, move burst_db folder into new wallet folder to avoid re-downloading the blockchain. For detailed instructions, see Guides below."
sr. member
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How is this an investment, what does the coin do?  It would be great if there was online harddrive space you could use with more coins that you buy or mine.  

What are people going to use this coin for that the other 700 altcoins or BTC or LTC don't offer?

I'm holding a few million BURST and I'm wondering where it's all going.



I should say good-buy. This coin is very promising and a really good investment...
legendary
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I should say good-buy. This coin is very promising and a really good investment...

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With the update do you have to download the entire blockchain again?  If so, I'm not doing it, I'm saying goodbye to this coin, sorry.

You can copy the old "burst_db" folder to the new wallet folder - same location.
Then start the new wallet.  And coinits is right Wink

@bensam123

The optimizer is not only for speeding up the reading process, also to optimize how the hdd reading method. Low stagger equals more seeks.
I have some plots with really low stagger like 1000 and the fastest read is about 10MB/s. With stagger between 8000 to 12000 I have usb 3.0 speed of 120 MB/s. I optimized one plot and it eats more ram that unoptimized with the old java miner.
legendary
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With the update do you have to download the entire blockchain again?  If so, I'm not doing it, I'm saying goodbye to this coin, sorry.

No you do not and if that is all that it takes to make you say goodbye then good riddance.
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I should say good-buy. This coin is very promising and a really good investment...
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With the update do you have to download the entire blockchain again?  If so, I'm not doing it, I'm saying goodbye to this coin, sorry.
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So after playing around and comparing Optimized Vs Non-optimized plots with the J6 optimizer, it appears as though non-optimized plots are faster. They however consume more memory when being mined (optimized plots have almost no memory usage). The speed difference is negligible, optimized is 10~ seconds slower, seemingly regardless of the number of drives I have attached.

I'm not exactly certain why this is, especially when everyone is saying they're faster. I even used a faster processor and Blagos miner was not operating at 100% usage. To that end, it appears that Blagos can only split threads down so much and it was effectively limited by one logical processor... at which point it would be faster if I had a higher frequency processor (single threaded performance becomes a bottleneck).

These are 4.54TB plots on 5TB 5,900RPM drives with 8192 stagger. They're hooked up via SATA 3 and I'm running W8.1 x64. The fastest I could hash one 5TB drive was 47s, it was non-optimized. A optimized one took 51s.

I really don't know why you'd want to optimize, unless you have extremely slow drives or almost no memory. Even on my pokey 5,900RPM drives, the bottleneck is definitely the processor (which makes a GPU assisted miner all the more desirable). The amount of time it takes to optimize and risk breaking your plots doesn't seem worth it.

Although I haven't played around with it, I would theorize a higher stagger size would actually make mining faster (if you have 16, 32, or 64GB of memory). These results may be because of how large my plots are comparatively to other people who are using much smaller drives.

I've been testing this over the last week or so and this has been tested across multiple systems. A A4-4000, G3220, and a AMD x4 640 (which is what I'm currently using). I tested in single drive configurations and multiple drive configurations (up to five drives). The results have been retested too, at no point in time were the drives actually the bottleneck in any of my tests. Maybe I just don't have a fast enough processor and after a certain threshold a non-optimized drive becomes worse then a optimized one.

In order to surpass a certain threshold it seems as though you need an extremely fast single threaded processor for best case mining. A i7, overclocked is better. Hyperthreading will help when you have more then four drives, although I also suspect a eight core FX would perform well when you have more then eight drives as AMD modules work quite well in multithreaded workloads.
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Thanks, how do you know if everything is functioning properly? I think I got everything working, but I'm not certain whether or not it's really 'working' so to speak. There is little to no documentation for the miner so I don't have any idea what any of the dialogue or options actually mean.

Like what is: dl sdl cdl ss rs?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9117608
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9696842
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9552852
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9304835

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How often does the mining 'phase' happen?
Every new block (~4 min)

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How do you know if you found a block mining solo?
You got burst in the wallet

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How do you know how long it took to process the last deadline and what the deadline is (I'm using blagos)?


see stat-log.csv  (ID, #block, baseTarget, best_Deadline)

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What is the initial 'mine' that happens when you start the miner up, where the percentage in the bottom left counts up?
percentage of reading of plots

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What is optimizing people talk about and how do you do it? What does it mean?
merge the plots, defrag HDDs
https://www.dropbox.com/s/xj4mzvkjlyg0c2l/merge.zip?dl=0

Blago I know this is a old post of yours but when you are merging and defragging hdds how do you go about using that merge tool in it as this no info on how to use the exe. How does one use it. Is tis the optimizer to optimize plots then just defrag hddd with defragger etc and link up in config for mining to add selected hdds like  d e f g and so on.

Yeah, I still don't understand what the + means. From reading through posts, I assumed 'merging' and 'optimizing' are the same thing. Defraging, is just defraging your HD...

A lot of lingo, I've been around here for over a month and I still don't have all of it figured out.

Ok, dcct's optimizer (dcct's address: BURST-DCCT-RZBV-NQC7-9G5N2): optimizer.exe (It was originally called merge.exe) - reorganizes (optimize) file. Improves reading speed and reduces destruction of HDD.
(start code https://www.dropbox.com/s/4t8yp972vsv6kly/merge.c?dl=0)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7wczp04g4allmdu/Optimizer.exe?dl=0
Usage: optimize.exe [-del 1 or 0 (Optional)] [-m MEMORY (Optional)] [ ..]

Defragmentator: O&O Defrag Professional

Miner:
When you specify the path settings in the following order, each path - it's a separate thread to the processor.
"Paths":["C:\\plots","D:\\plots","E:\\plots\\"],   - 3 parallel executable threads

In this case, the files are read sequentially in one thread:
"Paths":["C:\\plots+D:\\plots+E:\\plots\\"],   - 1 sequential thread for 3 HDDs



Thanks for the info fella. Just got one more question I have  the defrag program what one is recommended to use on it out the options as I just done a 5 hour defrag and its still 58% fragmented lol
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here is a fix for dcct's linux miner for mining with DevPool v2.
replace the code in the file "mine.c" with the follwing one an compile it. thx dcct for this nice linux miner!


What did you change? Actually I was contacting dcct because the devpool2 didn't get the submissions, though there was no error.

Does someone use dcct miner with devpool2?

i'am using dcct miner with DevPool v2 since ~ one month. it is stable and no memory problems (10TB & 3GB RAM).

the changes:
1. line 393:
-> old code "used += sprintf(&f1[used], "%llu:%llu\n", sharekey, sharenonce);"
-> new code "used += sprintf(&f1[used], "%llu:%llu:%llu\n", sharekey, sharenonce, height);"

2. line 400:
-> old code "int db = sprintf(f2, "POST /pool/submitWork HTTP/1.0\r\nHost: %s:%i\r\nContent-Type: text/plain;charset=UTF-8\r\nContent-Length: %i\r\n\r\n{\"%s\", %u}", nodeip, nodeport, used + 6 + ilen , f1, used);"
-> new code "int db = sprintf(f2, "POST /pool/submitWork HTTP/1.0\r\nHost: %s:%i\r\nContent-Type: text/plain;charset=UTF-8\r\nContent-Length: %i\r\n\r\n%s", nodeip, nodeport, used, f1);"

the submission of shares was not the correct format.
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...

So far it's running just fine for a day now.

I run through plot_optimizer_1.6-j6jq... does it really help speed up hashing when optimizing plot?

Thanks again.

Optimizing your plots will decrease the amount of time it takes to scan through all of them and potentially find a block before someone else.

An example:
It takes your computer 3 minutes to check all of the unoptimized plot files and you will have a deadline of 1 minute after 2.5 minutes of scanning.  Someone else may have a deadline of 2 minutes after 1.5 minutes of scanning.  The other person will get the block reward despite having a worse deadline because your deadline will never have a chance to submit.  You also won't know you missed a block because it will start scanning for the next block.  An optimized plot may find the deadline of 1 minute after 45 seconds of scanning and you would receive the block reward.  (Made the numbers up, but you get the idea)

To answer your question, it will speed up hashing in a matter of speaking, but in terms of hashrate as you think of BTC, then no, your overall "hashrate," or chance of finding a block, will not increase.  In the example above, you would eventually find the block either way assuming no one beats you to it, but an optimized plot would find it faster.

I also updated the plot optimizer with a GUI in the Burst forum:
https://burstforum.com/index.php?threads/plot-optimizer-gui-1-0-6.589/
java 8 64 bit, dbl clicking causes: "A Java Exception has occurred."

I did not miss your message. I have been busy with other things and trying to port the optimizer GUI to linux (I know Java is supposed to be universal, but the GUI calls Windows commands).  I was also trying to speed up Blago's miner (unsuccessfully) and parallelize the optimizer code(writing to the same hard drive limits this and probably not possible unless writing to multiple hard drives at once  Wink). I wonder what language cryo is using for his complete GUI with plugins. C, C++, Java, Python, ...?

A couple pointers:
1. Is the file "Optimizer.exe" in the same folder as the GUI with the exact spelling as this post?
2. Does it load at all or crash when you press the Optimize button?

If you can answer these questions, it will help me narrow down the bug.
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Since I only know the basics of batch file commands, I did a search on Stack Overflow for an alternative method of launching the wallet that will not be affected by the version of Java installed. I found other solutions like scanning the registry for the version of Java and then running from that particular folder, but the solution below was less complicated. 

Using the FOR loop from http://stackoverflow.com/questions/638301/discover-from-a-batch-file-where-is-java-installed, I created the following bat file because I use Java 8 and uninstalled Java 7. It will search for java.exe and set a variable called JAVA_HOME. The command to start the wallet is the same as the original run.bat.  Feel free to test it out or if it does not work, I can post another solution that has worked for me. I added the first IF statement so the FOR loop would not run every time, but that IF may need to be removed if the batch file does not work after a Java update.  If you see something wrong, feel free to make the correction.

Code:
@ECHO off
IF %JAVA_HOME%.==. (
FOR /f %%j in ("java.exe") DO (
    SET JAVA_HOME=%%~dp$PATH:j
)
)

IF EXIST %JAVA_HOME% (
start "BURST" "%JAVA_HOME%\java.exe" -cp burst.jar;lib\*;conf nxt.Nxt
) ELSE (
    ECHO Java software not found on your system. Please go to http://java.com/en/ to download a copy of Java.
PAUSE
)

I posted this a little while back, but it is a universal run.bat file that does not depend on what java version is installed.

This run.bat file decided to stop running for me.  I made a couple changes and it works now.  I hope that is true for everyone.

Code:
@ECHO OFF
FOR /f %%j in ("java.exe") DO (
SET JAVA_HOME=%%~dp$PATH:j
)


IF EXIST %JAVA_HOME% (
start "BURST" /WAIT /B "%JAVA_HOME%\java.exe" -cp burst.jar;lib\*;conf nxt.Nxt
) ELSE (
    ECHO Java software not found on your system. Please go to http://java.com/en/ to download a copy of Java.
PAUSE
)
sr. member
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here is a fix for dcct's linux miner for mining with DevPool v2.
replace the code in the file "mine.c" with the follwing one an compile it. thx dcct for this nice linux miner!


What did you change? Actually I was contacting dcct because the devpool2 didn't get the submissions, though there was no error.

Does someone use dcct miner with devpool2?
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