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Yes. That means a very active and reputable community member that wasn't involved with the coin development actually mined block 1.



That's not possible. 

This was a ninja launch and the dev solo mined alone for about the first hour or so.  So the first ~50+ blocks most likely ALL went to the dev.

But it does look like a lot of huge early miners are still sitting on their big stash.  Unless the blockchain is not updating properly.



You're not reading the blockchain. Or looking at my references. Or reading from the first page of this thread. If what you're saying is true, then it would be clear who all the players behind cnl were. Way to quote me without my proof as well. Thumbs up.

It's a good point about the richlist though. There's no telling if that million coin bagholder is still holding so many coins without stepping back through the last three thousand blocks and looking manually - which isn't as hard as it sounds actually.

http://cnl.blockexplorer.cc/address/1BW9fECrP1EhAwcZn3MuLgXJiiaTerYECM

That's probably your most interesting bagholder right there. Started mining 1 minute in, first person to stake, never sold a single coin.




How do you know he didn't sell a single coin?  I mean, he transferred out the majority of his coins from that wallet.

For sure a lot of really big holders have not sold yet, but I'm not sure about this guy.

Regards...

Because I know how to read staking wallets. Every transaction out leads back into his own wallet.


Thanks, I'm not good at the tech side of it.

Can you tell me anything about the 450,000 CNL block (transaction) I found from 7/19 which showed Not Yet Redeemed?

Much appreciated!

I can tell you that they went to a wallet that's not staking, at address 1C5cWqLBF3PZTGTnjmdZ9kfezvgC5qANHm. I can tell you that that address seems to have been accumulating coins in 100k bursts until the 450k send. I can tell you that there are currently over 550k in that wallet.

The address was first used about an hour after cnl was listed on all three exchanges. It is possible that it's an exchange cold wallet.

With that said, 100k was moved from that address on July 22 in block 3894. This is the most interesting part.

That 100k was moved into a staking wallet. As far as I know, none of the major exchanges stake their coins. So why is that interesting?


Because this is the staking wallet those 100k went into:

19b9hH4pc5inzuF82DE2FZXxoGTGmNWhSx


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Balance: 1334428.84819305 CNL
Transactions in: 303
Received: 5449643.09294885 CNL
Transactions out: 149
Sent: 4115214.2447558 CNL

1,334,428 CNL sitting pretty right there. More than 13% of the total coin supply. And all but 52,499.98 of it was accumulated AFTER the great blockchain lockup of block 2881.


legendary
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Was the launch  on the 18th,  who thinks the dev shows up on the 10th day of concealment ?


I give it a 50% probability.

Which for this coin is very good.  Unless the guy was a complete idiot a 1 day scam after having to pay off 3 exchanges just doesn't make sense.

Especially when you look at all those whale wallets which haven't sold a single coin.

Something is definitely cooking [me guesses].
legendary
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Was the launch  on the 18th,  who thinks the dev shows up on the 10th day of concealment ?
legendary
Activity: 3052
Merit: 1534
www.ixcoin.net


Yes. That means a very active and reputable community member that wasn't involved with the coin development actually mined block 1.



That's not possible.  

This was a ninja launch and the dev solo mined alone for about the first hour or so.  So the first ~50+ blocks most likely ALL went to the dev.

But it does look like a lot of huge early miners are still sitting on their big stash.  Unless the blockchain is not updating properly.



You're not reading the blockchain. Or looking at my references. Or reading from the first page of this thread. If what you're saying is true, then it would be clear who all the players behind cnl were. Way to quote me without my proof as well. Thumbs up.

It's a good point about the richlist though. There's no telling if that million coin bagholder is still holding so many coins without stepping back through the last three thousand blocks and looking manually - which isn't as hard as it sounds actually.


I wasn't trying to manipulate your words, just trying to not post massive posts.

Why do you think the blockchain works fine but the richlist is not updating?

Shouldn't it update automatically, and what could be causing it?

I think the rich list has gotten massive in the top 5 spots but it's being intentionally hidden.  I wish I knew how to better use a block explorer cause I'd try to figure out who got how many coins.

Thanks again!
legendary
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www.ixcoin.net


Yes. That means a very active and reputable community member that wasn't involved with the coin development actually mined block 1.



That's not possible. 

This was a ninja launch and the dev solo mined alone for about the first hour or so.  So the first ~50+ blocks most likely ALL went to the dev.

But it does look like a lot of huge early miners are still sitting on their big stash.  Unless the blockchain is not updating properly.



You're not reading the blockchain. Or looking at my references. Or reading from the first page of this thread. If what you're saying is true, then it would be clear who all the players behind cnl were. Way to quote me without my proof as well. Thumbs up.

It's a good point about the richlist though. There's no telling if that million coin bagholder is still holding so many coins without stepping back through the last three thousand blocks and looking manually - which isn't as hard as it sounds actually.

http://cnl.blockexplorer.cc/address/1BW9fECrP1EhAwcZn3MuLgXJiiaTerYECM

That's probably your most interesting bagholder right there. Started mining 1 minute in, first person to stake, never sold a single coin.




How do you know he didn't sell a single coin?  I mean, he transferred out the majority of his coins from that wallet.

For sure a lot of really big holders have not sold yet, but I'm not sure about this guy.

Regards...

Because I know how to read staking wallets. Every transaction out leads back into his own wallet.


Thanks, I'm not good at the tech side of it.

Can you tell me anything about the 450,000 CNL block (transaction) I found from 7/19 which showed Not Yet Redeemed?

Much appreciated!
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Activity: 140
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http://cnl.blockexplorer.cc/address/1BW9fECrP1EhAwcZn3MuLgXJiiaTerYECM

That's probably your most interesting bagholder right there. Started mining 1 minute in, first person to stake, never sold a single coin.




How do you know he didn't sell a single coin?  I mean, he transferred out the majority of his coins from that wallet.

For sure a lot of really big holders have not sold yet, but I'm not sure about this guy.

Regards...

Because I know how to read staking wallets. Every transaction out leads back into his own wallet.
full member
Activity: 140
Merit: 100


Yes. That means a very active and reputable community member that wasn't involved with the coin development actually mined block 1.



That's not possible.  

This was a ninja launch and the dev solo mined alone for about the first hour or so.  So the first ~50+ blocks most likely ALL went to the dev.

But it does look like a lot of huge early miners are still sitting on their big stash.  Unless the blockchain is not updating properly.



You're not reading the blockchain. Or looking at my references. Or reading from the first page of this thread. If what you're saying is true, then it would be clear who all the players behind cnl were. Way to quote me without my proof as well. Thumbs up.

It's a good point about the richlist though. There's no telling if that million coin bagholder is still holding so many coins without stepping back through the last three thousand blocks and looking manually - which isn't as hard as it sounds actually.
legendary
Activity: 3052
Merit: 1534
www.ixcoin.net

http://cnl.blockexplorer.cc/address/1BW9fECrP1EhAwcZn3MuLgXJiiaTerYECM

That's probably your most interesting bagholder right there. Started mining 1 minute in, first person to stake, never sold a single coin.




How do you know he didn't sell a single coin?  I mean, he transferred out the majority of his coins from that wallet.

For sure a lot of really big holders have not sold yet, but I'm not sure about this guy.

Regards...
legendary
Activity: 3052
Merit: 1534
www.ixcoin.net



Wouldn't it be an interesting twist if the plan is to merge Vast and Conceal in some new type of anon-mixer scheme?  That way they're buying up all the CNL and Vast for cheap - at the same time.
legendary
Activity: 3052
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www.ixcoin.net


Yes. That means a very active and reputable community member that wasn't involved with the coin development actually mined block 1.



That's not possible.  

This was a ninja launch and the dev solo mined alone for about the first hour or so.  So the first ~50+ blocks most likely ALL went to the dev.

But it does look like a lot of huge early miners are still sitting on their big stash.  Unless the blockchain is not updating properly.

legendary
Activity: 3052
Merit: 1534
www.ixcoin.net
i might be wrong, but isn't the blockchain not updating correctly? Some people were not moving up when buying coins or getting the minted coins added?


The richlist has not updated since the 2nd day.

Conceal Big Buyers.
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i might be wrong, but isn't the blockchain not updating correctly? Some people were not moving up when buying coins or getting the minted coins added?
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I also managed to dig this out of the blockchain.

The owner of this address: 1LCVYwk46mK5ZtLfPtSL4rBr6uTioqXmcr, as you all know, has 1,151,500.02 coins. They've been sitting on the top of the rich list as long as I remember actually.

Well I managed to pull this up from the blockchain:

http://cnl.blockexplorer.cc/block/00000000008e645f7d5f965e2059594b1161079ea1bfd183440da4d86654d58c

That's the first block that was mined by this address, which means that this address was mined to. That block was mined roughly an hour after launch. What happened an hour after launch? The source got released for pools.

So what's that mean?

It means someone that mined coins, most likely a private mining pool, has well over 10% of all the coins in existence and never sold or traded most of them to anyone.

legendary
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..like bright metal on a sullen ground.
This note is addressed to the DEV of CNL.

Please make an appearance and put these users at rest knowing you are still actively working with this coin,
or notify the community you are not so that a new Dev team can take it over.

We would sure like to know that you have not just decided to drop this awesome coin.


JShock
Cryptsy Customer Service Supervisor



There ain't no dev.

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http://cnl.blockexplorer.cc/address/1BW9fECrP1EhAwcZn3MuLgXJiiaTerYECM

That's probably your most interesting bagholder right there. Started mining 1 minute in, first person to stake, never sold a single coin.



This would be Shadow_runner:

http://cnl.blockexplorer.cc/address/1KqxL6ya7WHAhXoXuMd8L1aC1sd12Dw4KD

Since it's the only address that mined two blocks before block 7, as noted in his post https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7913279

Yes. That means a very active and reputable community member that wasn't involved with the coin development actually mined block 1.
legendary
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this could be the dev!

http://cnl.blockexplorer.cc/address/13npWkUcrrB84KVGQEFSHwrKp2KdbBdBvV

10% of the total coins in this wallet, and not a exchange because it was a solo miner at first.
Today the most CNL come to this wallet


The more I look at this wallet the more i think you could be right.  This wallet doesn't look like an exchange so whoever it is had the guts to hold and not sell any.

And if it is the dev it's just one wallet cause I'm sure he's been buying over the past 3 days and those buys are not showing up on this wallet.  The guy could easily have 20%, not the 2% he was pretending he needed.

Enough is enough - why get so greedy, let's get it over with - time for scam phase 2.0.  lol.

where exactly was the scam phase 1.0?
and why is it to you a scam when someone BUYING coins?

legendary
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this could be the dev!

http://cnl.blockexplorer.cc/address/13npWkUcrrB84KVGQEFSHwrKp2KdbBdBvV

10% of the total coins in this wallet, and not a exchange because it was a solo miner at first.
Today the most CNL come to this wallet


The more I look at this wallet the more i think you could be right.  This wallet doesn't look like an exchange so whoever it is had the guts to hold and not sell any.

And if it is the dev it's just one wallet cause I'm sure he's been buying over the past 3 days and those buys are not showing up on this wallet.  The guy could easily have 20%, not the 2% he was pretending he needed.

Enough is enough - why get so greedy, let's get it over with - time for scam phase 2.0.  lol.
legendary
Activity: 3052
Merit: 1534
www.ixcoin.net
This note is addressed to the DEV of CNL.

Please make an appearance and put these users at rest knowing you are still actively working with this coin,
or notify the community you are not so that a new Dev team can take it over.

We would sure like to know that you have not just decided to drop this awesome coin.


JShock
Cryptsy Customer Service Supervisor




Thanks JShock.

May I ask, why did Cryptsy add CNL on day one?  I prefer that Cryptsy add new coins quicker than it has but it's just that it's an unusual thing for Cryptsy to have done especially with a new dev and a 24 hour PoW.

I'm just curious if maybe there's something [good] about the dev or the coin which we don't know.  Or did you guys just randomly decide to add CNL on day one for no reason.

Much appreciated!
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This note is addressed to the DEV of CNL.

Please make an appearance and put these users at rest knowing you are still actively working with this coin,
or notify the community you are not so that a new Dev team can take it over.

We would sure like to know that you have not just decided to drop this awesome coin.


JShock
Cryptsy Customer Service Supervisor

legendary
Activity: 3052
Merit: 1534
www.ixcoin.net

On a bright-ish note, the volume and price has stabilized which would indicate a hard bottom.

Not many coins left to be gotten at this point so maybe the idiot, err, the dev, will step up before his 10 days and commence scam-phase 2.0 ..
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