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Topic: [ANN][CRC] Craftcoin - Portable Minecraft Game Currency w. Economy Plugin - page 26. (Read 92642 times)

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Mining history: BTC->LTC->FTC->CRC:2200kh/s
Well, currently there seem tp be too many pools for the amount of craftcoin miners  Undecided

I must move from the one pool after 36-48 hours of loyalty to the other that obviously has higher loyalty and more miners. Sorry http://crc.scryptmining.com/ I have to go where the possibility is higher with more miners.

Except with PPS it does not matter..You get paid the same regardless of how many-how large the miners there are on the pool   Wink

If the interest in a PPS pool is truly gone, Let me know. No reason for me to keep a pool up nobody is going to use.


hey hey hey i'm still there and when the diff is fixed ppl will come back mark my words
legendary
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XXXVII Fnord is toast without bread
Sorry for hijacking this thread for perhaps an unimportant question.

Thank you everyone for your input and responses. I now fully understand how pools work.
legendary
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 (...the chances of finding a block are identical whether that hash is mining at 1 pool or spread across 100 pools.)

What is the point of low hashers mining at a pool if their hashes are not a combined effort toward solving 1 individual block. I guess I still don't understand what pools do that solo-mining doesn't.

With low hashes, solo-mining will likely never give you a payout unless you're one lucky bastard. With a pool you're much more likely to get some payout.

I understand that there is a payout issued with a pool based on contribution. My question is, if we as pool members are actually working together as a team then why not work together on 1 pool rather than 6 or 7? Otherwise if we mine individually then it is the same as solo mining. This question pertains to p2pool and pplns pools. NOT PPS!!

My question is about sharing the work. I don't care about the payments.

Pool or solo users contribute the same to the network. The major difference is that a solo miner only benefits when he/she finds a block. For example look at BTC, If one were to solo mine with the typical hash power the miners here have, they could mine for YEARS without even solving a block and thus pay for hardware and electricity at a complete loss.

In a pool, the pool accepts lower difficulty hashes under the idea the eventually somebody will submit a hash that is at or above target. IF everybody would solo mine the effect is the same to the network. The network does not care if a block is solved by pool or solo, it does not know the difference.
The only share it sees and counts is the one that meets the difficulty requirement.

A block unsolved or solved has nothing to do with solo vs. pool. But pools allow people to share the rewards of a found block, they eliminate the variance factor to the miner.


legendary
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XXXVII Fnord is toast without bread
I think of a pool as a group of workers that are working together on say a 1000 piece puzzle. Each worker has a share of the pieces that get put together and form a completed puzzle. If you have ten workers then 1000/10=100 per worker. But if you take those ten workers and put them in 5 different pools they each have to work for 500 pieces each, because the puzzle is still 1000 pieces for each pool. Each pool has its own build of the next "puzzle" and likewise each solo miner is also working on that 1000 piece puzzle but they have to fit all 1000 pieces on their own.

Interchange "puzzle" with "block" & "pieces" with "shares".


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Captain Jack Fenderson
A properly setup p2pool node should be connected to all the other p2pools for that coin. If you look at the payouts tab for all the CRC p2pools you'll see they all have the same miners.

The multiple nodes are more for redundancy and helping miners find connections with the least lag. (Basically, someone in Canada would rather connect to a node in new york than one in france.)
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with p2pool it doesnt make a difference i believe, a share found on one pool are still counted if you switch to another p2pool aslong as the nodes are connected.
legendary
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XXXVII Fnord is toast without bread


 (...the chances of finding a block are identical whether that hash is mining at 1 pool or spread across 100 pools.)

What is the point of low hashers mining at a pool if their hashes are not a combined effort toward solving 1 individual block. I guess I still don't understand what pools do that solo-mining doesn't.

With low hashes, solo-mining will likely never give you a payout unless you're one lucky bastard. With a pool you're much more likely to get some payout.

I understand that there is a payout issued with a pool based on contribution. My question is, if we as pool members are actually working together as a team then why not work together on 1 pool rather than 6 or 7? Otherwise if we mine individually then it is the same as solo mining. This question pertains to p2pool and pplns pools. NOT PPS!!

My question is about sharing the work. I don't care about the payments.
newbie
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Hi,

I just thought of mining some for fun... But for some reason it says "out of sync" in my wallet all the time, also when I put in a pool in "mining" I get the following message: "Miner failed to start. Make sure you have the minerd executable and libraries in the same directory as craftcoin-qt". And yes, the files are all in the same folder. What am I doing wrong?

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Captain Jack Fenderson


 (...the chances of finding a block are identical whether that hash is mining at 1 pool or spread across 100 pools.)

What is the point of low hashers mining at a pool if their hashes are not a combined effort toward solving 1 individual block. I guess I still don't understand what pools do that solo-mining doesn't.

With low hashes, solo-mining will likely never give you a payout unless you're one lucky bastard. With a pool you're much more likely to get some payout.
legendary
Activity: 1844
Merit: 1338
XXXVII Fnord is toast without bread


 (...the chances of finding a block are identical whether that hash is mining at 1 pool or spread across 100 pools.)

What is the point of low hashers mining at a pool if their hashes are not a combined effort toward solving 1 individual block. I guess I still don't understand what pools do that solo-mining doesn't.
legendary
Activity: 1844
Merit: 1338
XXXVII Fnord is toast without bread
Well, currently there seem tp be too many pools for the amount of craftcoin miners  Undecided

I must move from the one pool after 36-48 hours of loyalty to the other that obviously has higher loyalty and more miners. Sorry http://crc.scryptmining.com/ I have to go where the possibility is higher with more miners.

Except with PPS it does not matter..You get paid the same regardless of how many-how large the miners there are on the pool   Wink

If the interest in a PPS pool is truly gone, Let me know. No reason for me to keep a pool up nobody is going to use.


I'm using it!  Have had my 500khashes on it for a few days.  Found two blocks. Only 0.01% rejected shares.  I don't see why everyone isn't using it.  It's great because I know I will be paid.  There's no being unlucky.  Dreamwatcher absorbs all the variance.  Guaranteed payouts people!  http://crc.cryptocoinmine.com



I switch from the pplns to the pps, I am user , found a block for the pool 40 minutes ago.  Grin

I find it strange that every time I switch to a pool the main hasher leaves. And then I am back to wondering if my hashing is worth it to keep my whole 100 CRC in my wallet to have value. I guess it would be different if I actually played Minecraft.
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So really the coin itself isn't the important/interesting thing here anyway, the module is; people could go ahead and use it with real bitcoins instead of mucking around with some obscure newfangled coin, ormaybe litecoin or devcoin or whatever if bitcoins are considered "too valuable" for use in games...

-MarkM-

Hit the problem on the head.


I agree, this is exactly the reason we approached the project from the angle we did.


We WILL get it worked out, the problem is that we don't have the same resources that other devs might have.

Check your PM...
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Well, currently there seem tp be too many pools for the amount of craftcoin miners  Undecided

I must move from the one pool after 36-48 hours of loyalty to the other that obviously has higher loyalty and more miners. Sorry http://crc.scryptmining.com/ I have to go where the possibility is higher with more miners.

Except with PPS it does not matter..You get paid the same regardless of how many-how large the miners there are on the pool   Wink

If the interest in a PPS pool is truly gone, Let me know. No reason for me to keep a pool up nobody is going to use.


I'm using it!  Have had my 500khashes on it for a few days.  Found two blocks. Only 0.01% rejected shares.  I don't see why everyone isn't using it.  It's great because I know I will be paid.  There's no being unlucky.  Dreamwatcher absorbs all the variance.  Guaranteed payouts people!  http://crc.cryptocoinmine.com
sr. member
Activity: 448
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Well, currently there seem tp be too many pools for the amount of craftcoin miners  Undecided

I must move from the one pool after 36-48 hours of loyalty to the other that obviously has higher loyalty and more miners. Sorry http://crc.scryptmining.com/ I have to go where the possibility is higher with more miners.

All good man, nice to have you aboard while you were.  Hopefully the diff issue gets addressed eventually, and the coin will have a bit more life.


Regarding too many pools for so few miners, it has no affect on anything in terms of finding blocks.  The coin has the same global hashrate, the chances of finding a block are identical whether that hash is mining at 1 pool or spread across 100 pools. Only difference is how payment of finding the coin is split up.
legendary
Activity: 1064
Merit: 1000
Well, currently there seem tp be too many pools for the amount of craftcoin miners  Undecided

I must move from the one pool after 36-48 hours of loyalty to the other that obviously has higher loyalty and more miners. Sorry http://crc.scryptmining.com/ I have to go where the possibility is higher with more miners.

Except with PPS it does not matter..You get paid the same regardless of how many-how large the miners there are on the pool   Wink

If the interest in a PPS pool is truly gone, Let me know. No reason for me to keep a pool up nobody is going to use.
legendary
Activity: 1844
Merit: 1338
XXXVII Fnord is toast without bread
Well, currently there seem tp be too many pools for the amount of craftcoin miners  Undecided

I must move from the one pool after 36-48 hours of loyalty to the other that obviously has higher loyalty and more miners. Sorry http://crc.scryptmining.com/ I have to go where the possibility is higher with more miners.
legendary
Activity: 1844
Merit: 1338
XXXVII Fnord is toast without bread
Most pools keep the TX fees to themselves. P2pools give them to the miners.

The fee's on P2Pools are a bit different than other pools. Any fees that a p2pool has is probabilistic (yes, I had to look up the definition of that word too) Smiley

In other words if your p2pool has a 1% fee then 1% of the shares goes to the pool not 1% of every share. The pool can have periods of bad luck in relation to the fee and get nothing at all but it should average out over time.


Thanks for clearing this up for me.
full member
Activity: 213
Merit: 100
Mining history: BTC->LTC->FTC->CRC:2200kh/s

So really the coin itself isn't the important/interesting thing here anyway, the module is; people could go ahead and use it with real bitcoins instead of mucking around with some obscure newfangled coin, ormaybe litecoin or devcoin or whatever if bitcoins are considered "too valuable" for use in games...

-MarkM-

Hit the problem on the head.

all this has already been done by this coin's dev except it was done with LTC but it ended up making the mine craft market to volatile as you'd have to buy and sell in game based on the price of LTC.  apparently the plug has been tweaked so market volatility doesn't effect ingame prices to much
legendary
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Don't rush, gives me time to pick up some CRC at a slow rate (low market volume) before the diff fix Smiley
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So really the coin itself isn't the important/interesting thing here anyway, the module is; people could go ahead and use it with real bitcoins instead of mucking around with some obscure newfangled coin, ormaybe litecoin or devcoin or whatever if bitcoins are considered "too valuable" for use in games...

-MarkM-

Hit the problem on the head.


I agree, this is exactly the reason we approached the project from the angle we did.


We WILL get it worked out, the problem is that we don't have the same resources that other devs might have.


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