Topic: [ANN][CRYPT] CryptCoin x11 + PoS | P2P Anonymity | 0% Premine | Commander - page 155. (Read 512693 times)
June 27, 2014, 01:51:34 AM
Price is falling guys. Better sell and rebuy at 10-15k
June 27, 2014, 01:18:49 AM
If this is true, why doesn't Attious now release the info about this beautiful simplistic idea. If Attious wanted to get back at the Devs for being kicked out, just leak the idea and other coins with better devs could jump all over it. Anyone can actually create a Commander clone after seeing the functionality. Nothing Intrinsic or Proprietary about commander until the ANON functionality is proven. Meanwhile dev's continue to be ANON instead of allowing ANON transactions. Put up your Wallets Dev's, show us how many coins you mined and held and didn't sell during your fraud debacle. Show us the Money!
Let me tell you why this is a shit comment. First of all, Attious isn't a cryptographer, he doesn't know about the anon design if he did he would have leaked it already, Mindfox is the mastermind of the anon design. Secondly, the devs showing their wallets won't prove anything as anyone can have multiple wallets containing their coins, so showing one wallet won't prove anything. Thirdly, please listen to yourself and what you're about to say before embarrassing yourself in public. lulzarz
LOL Crypt is the one embarrassing themselves. So Attious was just in charge of the passwords and the Devs got rid of him without explaining anything about the coin? Listen to yourself now! Attious knows nothing about this simple brilliant concept at all, yet was a Dev who got kicked out? You don't have to be a cryptographer to know the gist of what this supposedly beautiful simplistic idea is. And the DEV's are saying it is just an IDEA so leak the IDEA and get back at the dev's. This hasn't happened so I am beginning to think the Dev's are in on this whole charade (besides MindFox of course).
Do you understand that the wallets would need to have substantial coin that didn't move? All coin holders with substantial coin have sold off so if the DEV's have wallets with Substantial coin that did not sell off then this Ruse could be dispelled. If they didn't mine they are stupid and could not have any kind of promise for an anonymous solution since they didn't even setup miners to obtain their own coin. Do you see how pathetic it is to say they didn't mine any at all? Since no one would know the difference if the did. Showing us that they did is the first honest thing they could do and wouldn't look bad at all since I would expect any Dev to get in on the mining. It was a Free-For-All and is not considered pre-mining, but close to Insta-Mine at those block rewards.
Even if they show a wallet that they don't own it would have to match up with not selling the coin and still be a substantial amount. I am confused as to why you don't get this. The odds of the Dev's finding a wallet with substantial coin that didn't move are very slim, so if they put up wallets, we can trace the history on them and we can tell if they are truthful. Even if it is marginal we could get a better grasp on whether to believe they had anything to do with the Fraud.
You do understand that there was Fraud perpetrated? This group is implicated and needs to clear themselves, I am only giving an option that I feel is viable. And to top it off, instead they are Anonymous while their Wallet isn't. This is why there is a Coin in Coincidence.
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You've wasted bandwidth with assumptions. But go on, my popcorn is almost done.
June 26, 2014, 11:41:03 PM
If this is true, why doesn't Attious now release the info about this beautiful simplistic idea. If Attious wanted to get back at the Devs for being kicked out, just leak the idea and other coins with better devs could jump all over it. Anyone can actually create a Commander clone after seeing the functionality. Nothing Intrinsic or Proprietary about commander until the ANON functionality is proven. Meanwhile dev's continue to be ANON instead of allowing ANON transactions. Put up your Wallets Dev's, show us how many coins you mined and held and didn't sell during your fraud debacle. Show us the Money!
Let me tell you why this is a shit comment. First of all, Attious isn't a cryptographer, he doesn't know about the anon design if he did he would have leaked it already, Mindfox is the mastermind of the anon design. Secondly, the devs showing their wallets won't prove anything as anyone can have multiple wallets containing their coins, so showing one wallet won't prove anything. Thirdly, please listen to yourself and what you're about to say before embarrassing yourself in public. lulzarz
LOL Crypt is the one embarrassing themselves. So Attious was just in charge of the passwords and the Devs got rid of him without explaining anything about the coin? Listen to yourself now! Attious knows nothing about this simple brilliant concept at all, yet was a Dev who got kicked out? You don't have to be a cryptographer to know the gist of what this supposedly beautiful simplistic idea is. And the DEV's are saying it is just an IDEA so leak the IDEA and get back at the dev's. This hasn't happened so I am beginning to think the Dev's are in on this whole charade (besides MindFox of course).
Do you understand that the wallets would need to have substantial coin that didn't move? All coin holders with substantial coin have sold off so if the DEV's have wallets with Substantial coin that did not sell off then this Ruse could be dispelled. If they didn't mine they are stupid and could not have any kind of promise for an anonymous solution since they didn't even setup miners to obtain their own coin. Do you see how pathetic it is to say they didn't mine any at all? Since no one would know the difference if the did. Showing us that they did is the first honest thing they could do and wouldn't look bad at all since I would expect any Dev to get in on the mining. It was a Free-For-All and is not considered pre-mining, but close to Insta-Mine at those block rewards.
Even if they show a wallet that they don't own it would have to match up with not selling the coin and still be a substantial amount. I am confused as to why you don't get this. The odds of the Dev's finding a wallet with substantial coin that didn't move are very slim, so if they put up wallets, we can trace the history on them and we can tell if they are truthful. Even if it is marginal we could get a better grasp on whether to believe they had anything to do with the Fraud.
You do understand that there was Fraud perpetrated? This group is implicated and needs to clear themselves, I am only giving an option that I feel is viable. And to top it off, instead they are Anonymous while their Wallet isn't. This is why there is a Coin in Coincidence.
Since Surly,
CryptoNick
June 26, 2014, 10:56:28 PM
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June 26, 2014, 10:38:30 PM
Hello CryptCoin Community!
We've just released PocketCrypto, a new Cryptocurrency Management App that will allow you to easily manage your CryptCoin investment. I'm a CryptCoin investor myself and am excited to see what the future holds for this coin. The coin has lots of potential. Hope you guys will check out the app and Good Luck to All!
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We've just released PocketCrypto, a new Cryptocurrency Management App that will allow you to easily manage your CryptCoin investment. I'm a CryptCoin investor myself and am excited to see what the future holds for this coin. The coin has lots of potential. Hope you guys will check out the app and Good Luck to All!
We currently support all coins on Mintpal and Cryptsy. Polo and Bittrex will be added in approximately a week.
Very cool. Looking forward to the trex update.
June 26, 2014, 09:59:50 PM
After much discussion with the current coin developers we have decided not to move forward. Our original belief was proven wrong. For that we appologize. Anon is the next step. We are excited for the unveiling.
Good luck, spread the wealth and live free.
Good luck, spread the wealth and live free.
lol this guy was trying to take over cryptcoin offering 500 btc, don't worry, you can join the bull run soon when the anon feature (which Mindfox confidently believes is a better anon structure than drk) comes out.
June 26, 2014, 09:55:54 PM
If this is true, why doesn't Attious now release the info about this beautiful simplistic idea. If Attious wanted to get back at the Devs for being kicked out, just leak the idea and other coins with better devs could jump all over it. Anyone can actually create a Commander clone after seeing the functionality. Nothing Intrinsic or Proprietary about commander until the ANON functionality is proven. Meanwhile dev's continue to be ANON instead of allowing ANON transactions. Put up your Wallets Dev's, show us how many coins you mined and held and didn't sell during your fraud debacle. Show us the Money!
Let me tell you why this is a shit comment. First of all, Attious isn't a cryptographer, he doesn't know about the anon design if he did he would have leaked it already, Mindfox is the mastermind of the anon design. Secondly, the devs showing their wallets won't prove anything as anyone can have multiple wallets containing their coins, so showing one wallet won't prove anything. Thirdly, please listen to yourself and what you're about to say before embarrassing yourself in public. lulzarz
June 26, 2014, 09:41:07 PM
After much discussion with the current coin developers we have decided not to move forward. Our original belief was proven wrong. For that we appologize. Anon is the next step. We are excited for the unveiling.
Good luck, spread the wealth and live free.
Good luck, spread the wealth and live free.
Im not a Crypt investor so Im impartial on what happens in the near future. That being said, all you idiots who create these new accounts just to spread nonsense FUD in these threads need to find something better to do with your time. Its becoming an epidemic and some sheep investors are actually falling for your tactics which is sad.
June 26, 2014, 09:25:02 PM
After much discussion with the current coin developers we have decided not to move forward. Our original belief was proven wrong. For that we appologize. Anon is the next step. We are excited for the unveiling.
Good luck, spread the wealth and live free.
Good luck, spread the wealth and live free.
June 26, 2014, 09:13:27 PM
Hello CryptCoin Community!
We've just released PocketCrypto, a new Cryptocurrency Management App that will allow you to easily manage your CryptCoin investment. I'm a CryptCoin investor myself and am excited to see what the future holds for this coin. The coin has lots of potential. Hope you guys will check out the app and Good Luck to All!
We currently support all coins on Mintpal and Cryptsy. Polo and Bittrex will be added in approximately a week.
We've just released PocketCrypto, a new Cryptocurrency Management App that will allow you to easily manage your CryptCoin investment. I'm a CryptCoin investor myself and am excited to see what the future holds for this coin. The coin has lots of potential. Hope you guys will check out the app and Good Luck to All!
We currently support all coins on Mintpal and Cryptsy. Polo and Bittrex will be added in approximately a week.
very nice .. I wish there is one for Iphone
June 26, 2014, 09:09:06 PM
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We currently support all coins on Mintpal and Cryptsy. Polo and Bittrex will be added in approximately a week.
Pro Version (super awesome!) (exclusive features) (no ads) (earlier updates) (no coin limit) (just because you love us
) *Exclusive to Pro: *add unlimited coins, add Fiat Currency with price in btc, Precious Metals with price in btc, Notes Feature,and more coming soon!
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June 26, 2014, 09:07:28 PM
New Update!! 6/20/2014
Rumors have been circulating that we may be being added to BTC-E soon. They are true.
Our talks with BTC-E went extremely well, they have tested the wallet on their servers and tested integration with their engine.
A hiccup is that they require a 3 digit code, they confirmed with us that we will be ok with CPT.
We are awaiting their response, they have been dealing with a large scale DDOS attack (see twitter) so there has been a small delay.
We are now awaiting their response, they said they will speak with us today.
We're very excited by the possibilty that we may be able to trade our favorite coin on our favorite exchange.
Our anon features are well underway - we are being secretive because the simplicity of the idea is beautiful and we don't want it stolen yet. It will likely be open source after release.
Sounds very good.
If this is true, why doesn't Attious now release the info about this beautiful simplistic idea. If Attious wanted to get back at the Devs for being kicked out, just leak the idea and other coins with better devs could jump all over it. Anyone can actually create a Commander clone after seeing the functionality. Nothing Intrinsic or Proprietary about commander until the ANON functionality is proven. Meanwhile dev's continue to be ANON instead of allowing ANON transactions. Put up your Wallets Dev's, show us how many coins you mined and held and didn't sell during your fraud debacle. Show us the Money!
June 26, 2014, 08:47:32 PM
What ever happened to btc-e adding cryptcoin?
NEVER!!
NEVER!!
Tall Poppy Syndrome?
June 26, 2014, 08:42:02 PM
I'm a developer and I don't understand anon technology much because I am not a cryptographer nor did I study computer security. However, do you know what I understand less? You. There are over 10 coins in the market which promises Anon technology, yet here you are on this thread, with no money tied to it, consistently, subtly trying to FUD this coin so concerned for its anon technology.
Mindfox and the other devs haven't disclosed how the anon will truly work, therefore you have no business here, no money, not anon to analyse, nothing, yet look at how much time you've spent here. When the anon IS released, feel free to come back, criticize it, give us your technical analysis as to why its an inferior anon compared to the other 'anon coins'.
Thank you.
I landed in this thread because this coin was recently pumped and the proponents (including well known pumpers) were advertising "true anonymity" (whatever that means) and they were heavily bashing other anon coins. I analyzed technologies of some other coins but I felt to the hype around this "true anonymity" that this coin is supposed to bring.
So in your opinion this thread is reserved only for people that have money tied in this coin (bagholders)? There are many other motives for people to be interested in some technology (curiosity, plans to actually use it, to develop some kind of business that needs anonymity etc.).
Poor excuse. You, me and everyone else in this thread has already established that there is NO anon to technically analyse as of yet, therefore the reason that you came into this thread for, at this very moment serves no purpose. If I were to humour you for a moment and believe that you are here solely to just see how this anon works, then I could understand you being here, quizzing mindfox about the tech and putting forth forward your thoughts as to why it fails, or succeeds IF the anon was already out for you to analyse. As of now, this is a bit like me turning up to a football game on Friday, when the game is on Saturday. There is no tech for you to analyse at the moment, so I don't know what you are still doing here.
exactly
exactly 
June 26, 2014, 08:15:55 PM
I'm a developer and I don't understand anon technology much because I am not a cryptographer nor did I study computer security. However, do you know what I understand less? You. There are over 10 coins in the market which promises Anon technology, yet here you are on this thread, with no money tied to it, consistently, subtly trying to FUD this coin so concerned for its anon technology.
Mindfox and the other devs haven't disclosed how the anon will truly work, therefore you have no business here, no money, not anon to analyse, nothing, yet look at how much time you've spent here. When the anon IS released, feel free to come back, criticize it, give us your technical analysis as to why its an inferior anon compared to the other 'anon coins'.
Thank you.
I landed in this thread because this coin was recently pumped and the proponents (including well known pumpers) were advertising "true anonymity" (whatever that means) and they were heavily bashing other anon coins. I analyzed technologies of some other coins but I felt to the hype around this "true anonymity" that this coin is supposed to bring.
So in your opinion this thread is reserved only for people that have money tied in this coin (bagholders)? There are many other motives for people to be interested in some technology (curiosity, plans to actually use it, to develop some kind of business that needs anonymity etc.).
Poor excuse. You, me and everyone else in this thread has already established that there is NO anon to technically analyse as of yet, therefore the reason that you came into this thread for, at this very moment serves no purpose. If I were to humour you for a moment and believe that you are here solely to just see how this anon works, then I could understand you being here, quizzing mindfox about the tech and putting forth forward your thoughts as to why it fails, or succeeds IF the anon was already out for you to analyse. As of now, this is a bit like me turning up to a football game on Friday, when the game is on Saturday. There is no tech for you to analyse at the moment, so I don't know what you are still doing here.
June 26, 2014, 08:13:28 PM
Damn dude I can't believe you fudster idiots can't find something else to do. You guys are sad.
June 26, 2014, 08:11:23 PM
What ever happened to btc-e adding cryptcoin?
NEVER!!
NEVER!!
June 26, 2014, 08:09:56 PM
1.From the leaked chat logs I've seen that the team behind CRYPT is composed of guys like Prom, Moosa which made fortunes in alts and trading or God knows where. Even Koolio and other whales are investing in it. This guys are capable of pushing the coin to the moon and even on btc-e. IMO the coin would have been already listed on btc-e if not for the major FUD due to some greedy dude who wanted to crash the market with false accusations so he can buy cheap coins. That idiot is gone now, probably hit by a black car or something LOL. Also the leaked chat logs seem to be fake. No one can be that stupid to accumulate a lot of coins and then post a discussion between Mossa and Dmitri which clearly puts btc-e's boss in some awkward situation to possibly not list the coin anymore. Is like burning your own bank, Jesus!
2.Regarding the communication with the public, you might be missing out. Don't know where you guys trade, but if you get on exchanges where Crypt is traded(Bittrex, Poloniex, Cryptsy, Mintpal) you will definitely see one of the team members at some point. Besides that I think they are now in Silentio Stampa letting the dust settle after the FUD before making some new announcements. What is important to note is that if you read the previous posts, you will find that Mindfox is CLEARLY working on this project and ccryptcoin admin is posting regularly new developments. Check out the commander, it is awesome. It will be available on mobile as well apparently. Thumbs up!
3.Anon functionality will be implemented I am 99% sure of this. The 1% accounts for the chance that the Internet might go down forever. It will put the coin where it belongs right along with DRK.
4.Some analysis of the price:If you watch the pattern you will see that the current level of 60-70k is very close to the previous ATH of 100k. So the coin found a floor at approximately the last peak. After that 100k peak in 4th June, we had 1 week of calm and then a jump to 250k , new ATH without any new releases.Next ATH will be to 2.5 x 250=550k? Nobody knows for sure right now but I don't wanna miss such an opportunity so I am accumulating as much as I can now. When the coin was valuated at 40k and not yet on Mintpal I told people to buy it because it will be added thanks to its volume and it will skyrocket. Personally I lost a couple of BTC because of the unpredicted drop, but I hope to make it back in the following days when ANON is released and the whales which got out of DRK will want a piece of this baby.
Interesting opinions.
I think (but I don't have any proof whatsoever) that the whales have almost completely abandoned this coin. It is much easier for them to create completely new coin than to just trying to revive this coin. They may jump in when some extremely good news happens (this Commander news obviously wasn't "good" enough) for jump & dump and that's all. At the moment this coins has nothing. The only "innovative" thing is Commander, but this seems to be just web interface to wallet api functions. This feature can be quite trivially implemented in new coins also and is nothing special IMHO.
MindFox is also just hired freelancer and he could easily implement his anonymity feature on a completely new coin (or maybe even on bitcoin itself).
About anonymity. Anonymity may be implemented. But will it work? Will it provide any kind of real anonymity? I'm not so sure. It seems that this anonymity was abused for marketing purposes. MindFox doesn't talk about anonymity (anymore?). He is talking about "hard to trace system". He also thinks that any kind of real anonymity is not possible in the coin that is based currently implemented blockchain technology.
Take into consideration that the anonymity feature of this coin may receive heavy attack if it won't be implemented properly:
http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/28hqu3/warning_to_all_anonymous_coins_promoters_and/
I really really doubt that solution that is developed in secrecy by one single dev (who might not even be mathematician or cryptographer) can withstand an attack from mathematicians and cryptographers.
The anonymity of this coin has already been abused by promoters. This coin was marketed as being "anonymous" but somebody found that solution - as described in current whitepaper - won't work at all:
http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptCoin/comments/28e8be/security_analysis_of_cryptcoins_cryptcast_feature/
I can't say anything about the price. I think that technical analysis can't be really used when you have no volume and you have whales that can considerably change price with almost no effort at all (because of market depth). For technical analysis to work you must have enough market players which believe that it works. But in this case - when several whales/pumpers represent more than 90% of volume - this may not be the case.
You're just a doubter aren't you? You'd say the same damn thing to DRK during its correction phases. Some of the known whales have already spoken out (koolio, moosa) and will continue to support this coin. All the pumped coins loses volume at some point as well depending on the latest coin being hyped. DRK lost volume a couple of times, what's your point? Panic fudding because you sold very low?
June 26, 2014, 06:55:34 PM
June 26, 2014, 06:32:55 PM
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