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Topic: [ANN][DCR] Decred - Community Governance | Bitcoin Devs | Lightning Network - page 496. (Read 1201599 times)

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I am part of Decred community whether you like it or not. But being part of Decred community doesn't mean I give unconditional support...

The one thing I really dislike here is "minority exclusion", i.e. voting system 66% threshold as well as public appeals to ignore community members...

I don't like it scambo, but hey do as you wish, your a free man, lol. OK, stay alert.

I don't mind the 66% threshold in theory. It should make change easier, to foster innovation in the bitcoin space.
Of course, in practice the decred devs/c0 will be able to outvote everyone else, what they say goes.
Shame decred did not take the opportunity to address the pressing need in bitcoin, the block size! that would be more innovative/insightful.

Scam, you must see many similarities between decred and neucoin? (or others)
Of course repackaged, reworked, reinvented.

Ok, credit if decred get the PoS pool up and running at launch. They should admit it was my due diligence (fud) that caused this turnaround.

But they were going to launch without a pool, effectively leaving "us" PoS-less.
And we know what happens when an entity controlls over 50% PoS, (which decred/c0 effectively still will, but less so) they "outvote others" to rewards.
(they effectively compound their PoS and buy tickets cheaper due to quicker rewards)

Now I don't mind ANY of this, I just want anyone with "real interest" in this to understand better.
In effect the PoS share will not be 50% decred/c0, 50% airdrop, but vastly more in favour of decred/c0 (for various reasons, some stated)
If decred explained this, fine. But they don't. (being as decred is marketed as a coin for "devs", serious players and knowledgeable people)
Being told to shut up by decreders and blanked by anonymous _ingsoc is quite familiar?

And my figures on the "$0.49" price tag allotted to repay decred/c0 in relation to a "working price" of $1.00, set by the boss Beyondtext?
Fobbed off by "the thickest one of the group" anonymous _ingsoc. (her own words not mine)

I can't get an intelligent reply to anything here. I know my lines of enquiry are uncomfortable. More so if things are being hidden I imagine.

I'm seeing many similarities to neucoin,

founders (claim to) work for years on development.
Large Premine
Founders get 2x value of dev pre-launch input repaid. (in relation to "sustainable price" of $1.00 - Beyondtext)
Founders get 450,000(?) decred PoS on top, for no extra work "hidden bonus" (this is not dev fund money. c0 money)
Founders pre-launch input "package" ammounts to 1,300,000 decred in year 1, far more than "implied" (and continue after that)
decred need to trade at $1.00 to self fund on "workable" scale.
Incompatible mathematical evaluations.
Lots of reorgs and unluck PoS miners. (expected)
"Dev fund" starts empty. No project development for some time until funds are accumulated?
Founders "hidden bonus" 1st yr PoS yields more decred than the Dev funds "10% of all blocks"
DHG (dev fund) controlled by founders.
Block explorer promised due to my due diligence. (waiting on fulfilment)
Launch delayed to create essential PoS pool due to my due dilegence. (but no acknowledgement to me. didn't see any other "users" complain)

Also,
Anonymous spokesperson  _ingsoc (Sandrine?)
An owl instead of a rabbit?
Anonymous "decred" team posting.
No sign of Beyondtext here, hardly. (to clarify my figures are correct, not anonymous _ingsocs misinterpretation)

Hmmm.... you know me scam,
If I dont get genuine answers I tend to keep trying.


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I'd like to not sort through pages full of senseless arguments whenever I check on this thread.

Thanks, guys.
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...you bastard!

...you idiot!

if you guys aren't the same person, then you must be husband and wife

 Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Desperately searching for evidence, huh? Good luck, you idiot!
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#mitandopelomundo
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We are interested in setting up a pool as well, is there any hashing module for this algo yet ?
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I very much like you to be part of the community @scam confirmed. If you do not like something or not done as you want say it with respect,if you do not it better shut up.
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It's funny how a topic for a coin turns into a "detective" topic lol
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Exactly,my syntax software tell me that rizzlaolla and scam comfirmed are indeed a 100% match and indeed the same person

Care to show us your results? I am 100 % sure that you lie...
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rizzlarolla and scam confirmed are the same person.
Wrong.

The two profiles were created by the same IP
Wrong.

with few days between them.
True.

He is a neucoin bagholder and i didnt understand yet what is his problem with decred.
Worst insult ever...  If you've read our posts in the Neucoin thread, you know that neither I nor Rizz are bagholder of this shitcoin (NoKoin)... I already mentioned there that Decred looks way better than Neucoin "in (almost) every aspect"...

Here look you idiot!
This somewhat reminds me of NoKoin [but it looks waaaaaaay better in (almost) every aspect]...:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/anndcr-decred-community-governance-bitcoin-devs-lightning-network-1290358

I am part of Decred community whether you like it or not. But being part of Decred community doesn't mean I give unconditional support...

The one thing I really dislike here is "minority exclusion", i.e. voting system 66% threshold as well as public appeals to ignore community members...
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rizzlarolla and scam confirmed are the same person.
The two profiles were created by the same IP, with few days between them.
He is a neucoin bagholder and i didnt understand yet what is his problem with decred.

Exactly,my syntax software tell me that rizzlaolla and scam comfirmed are indeed a 100% match and indeed the same person


Bitcointalk history shows they back each other up with fud where ever they go

If fact this sock puppet has evolved emotions!

I miss Rizz  Sad
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#mitandopelomundo
rizzlarolla and scam confirmed are the same person.
The two profiles were created by the same IP, with few days between them.
He is a neucoin bagholder and i didnt understand yet what is his problem with decred.
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That's the reason why developers of any coin open their own forum. It is the only sure way to know that they will stop bothering.
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Some idiots here believe that FUD is an acronym for complaining! Let's separate FUD from constructive criticism. Constructive criticism is needed. Thanks! And special thanks to Rizz!

Constructive criticism is very important to any type of collaborative work. The key here is collaboration - and it must be based in fact and reason. That is not an unreasonable standard. Once criticism becomes completely negative and mixed with personality issues (regardless of intent), any real kind of progress becomes impossible to attain.

The best position to take in that case is to focus on the work and get on with it. Even epic trolls will get responses, but there are severe limits to those responses if the situation does not improve. If the project got bogged down in all the attacks, everyone would still be waiting for the first announcement to come out. That's why there is a standard to uphold and to operate in that framework so work can get done and everyone can move forward together.
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Hey everyone, mainnet launch date is 12:00 PM CST February 8th, 2016. Some extra information here. This will mean extra work completed on PoW pools and a simple PoS pool on launch. Hopefully now everyone can make their arrangements for the big day!

Sounds like tesnet has been a success so far which is good to here...

@_ingsoc Just popping your full post from the decred forum here as well...Guessing not everyone will click to read it over there.

Quote from: _ingsoc@decred Forum
Hello everyone,

Just a quick update to solidify a specific date and time for mainnet launch now that testnet has been live for a while. The original plan was to bring mainnet up on February 3rd, 2016, in the event that no serious bugs were discovered during the week of testnet. However, operation of testnet and feedback from users have made it clear that the network will benefit greatly from two distinct factors that require completion or work prior to the launch of mainnet. These are:
PoW pools - the project is currently assisting developers who are working on pools for PoW mining
PoS pools - the project will complete and release a basic stake pool for those interested in PoS mining
As such, the specific date and time scheduled for mainnet launch is 12:00 PM CST February 8th, 2016. The software will be made free and open-source at 12:00 PM CST February 7th, 2016 - one full day prior to the launch of mainnet. Hopefully progress on these factors will afford everyone a little bit more time to become familiar with the software and make arrangements for the launch day!

As always, thank you to everyone for their hard work and effort in helping others along the way!

Sincerely,
Decred Project

Good to hear that the binaries will be made available the day before @12:00 PM CST February 7th, 2016 as well... Saves me waking up @4am my time to get everything sorted.

Oh, thanks for bringing these very important issues to light rizz, you bastard.

Thats quite alright anonymous _ingsoc, no problem.
Don't bother thanking me, or even acknowledging me.
Oh, you didn't.

So i'm on many ignore lists here, idiots.
See what can be acheived?
If only you ignorers knew how much PoS I just rightfully earned for you.

More to come.

Some idiots here believe that FUD is an acronym for complaining!
Let's separate FUD from constructive criticism.
Constructive criticism is needed. Thanks! And special thanks to Rizz!
legendary
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Hey everyone, mainnet launch date is 12:00 PM CST February 8th, 2016. Some extra information here. This will mean extra work completed on PoW pools and a simple PoS pool on launch. Hopefully now everyone can make their arrangements for the big day!

Awww what a pity... And I wanted to ninja launch a pool right after launch.. Sad

The major problem is broken cgminer, hope they are capable to fix it within 8 days. So nothing bad happened.

Getwork without lp working but I am (currently) to dumb for stratum Smiley
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Hey everyone, mainnet launch date is 12:00 PM CST February 8th, 2016. Some extra information here. This will mean extra work completed on PoW pools and a simple PoS pool on launch. Hopefully now everyone can make their arrangements for the big day!

Thank you for the info! The launch is a bit later than i hoped (about a week to go now) but at least we have a official date now. I really hope there are no more big issues to solve so we can get this party on the way.
On the other hand it gives me a chance to buy some hashing for the launch as i am sure some miners will start selling hashing (hopefully on miningrigrentals also).
Releasing everything 1 day prior seems like a long enough time.
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Hey everyone, mainnet launch date is 12:00 PM CST February 8th, 2016. Some extra information here. This will mean extra work completed on PoW pools and a simple PoS pool on launch. Hopefully now everyone can make their arrangements for the big day!
12:00 PM CST February 8th, 2016 , it's Chinese Spring  Festival, that's not fair to chinese, could it be much earlier.
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Hey everyone, mainnet launch date is 12:00 PM CST February 8th, 2016. Some extra information here. This will mean extra work completed on PoW pools and a simple PoS pool on launch. Hopefully now everyone can make their arrangements for the big day!

Awww what a pity... And I wanted to ninja launch a pool right after launch.. Sad

The major problem is broken cgminer, hope they are capable to fix it within 8 days. So nothing bad happened.
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