Topic: [ANN][ECA] Electra ⚡ | POS 3.0e | Super Rewards Bonanza - page 31. (Read 144299 times)

1- Electra is a community project
2- Electra Foundation is not a company ( go and educate yourself - read some information - make some research - check the Dutch law about foundation )
    Electra foundation board members are responsible against Dutch laws and the funds which are received to Official Foundation Account
    Electra foundation members are visible and not hiding themselves like YOU !!
3- If you can't realize the differences, nothing to say you further.


This crypto space really needs more educated and honest people for its future. Cleanup will hapen one day but it seems it will take more then expected !!
 

The Electra Foundation is a company and has a board of directors

Board of directors should disclose their holdings.

Why should I or anyone trust a company who has board members that do not disclose there interest?

At least we will know all of there names as THAT should be public.

1. Please tell us how you see Electra partnering with DarkPay coin, an anonymous crypto project that doesn’t even have a team page. Do you know who is on their team? I see you active in there and buying. Why not buy more Electra?

2. You are saying Electra is a currency not a company. But the foundation is a legal entity or company. You should discuss this with the other board members next week. Investors will want to know how much Electra Foundation board members have. I know I do!

3. Ruru needs money to cover vps expenses. You are asking the community to cover that with ECA. She needs money. This means the community will donate Eca to Ruru and she will go sell it on an exchange to liquidate it to pay for bills. The community donates to hurt their own price. PLEASE ANSWER WHY E01 DOESNT PAY HER?

4. I don’t want the community to donate Electra to me. If they did then it would get sold back to them. This is a flawed project and will not last. You cannot continue paying for work by community donations

5. Will we see another post like below one day

Example 1
we want to get on another exchange. Please help us collect $50,000 in eca which we then sell back onto community because exchange wants btc

Example 2
There is a problem with atomic swaps. We need to hire dev for $10,000 to fix it. Please donate eca so we can have it fixed since no dev on team can do it

Your project devs and  e01 directly dumps on and hurts own community

Crypto = Hiding ( in definition ) . If you don't know, go and learn. Secondly, the team is transparent even this is not a must under "cryptology" definition.

And once again. Electra is NOT a company. Electra was NOT an ICO. And it is been more then 1.5 years until today.

It is very clear you know NOTHING about investment, foundation, Stock company or personal investment or whatsoever. And you just try to create FUD but this is old fashioned.  Everything you try to dig has been replied through social channels, engineering calls clearly.

So, please spend your time for better things.

Your transfers were investigated by the team where it is clear there is no bug inside the wallet. So remaining, are you trying to cheat the community ? You sold your coins or transferred your coins to someone and asking reimbusement ?  Do you think this is logic ?

Where? Robert says they are anonymous. That is the answer?

The Electra Foundation is hiring anonymous developers. So much for transparency and community efforts!

You apparently know who the 3 devs and external blockchain people are. Can you just tell us?

That would really give me and everyone reading this the answers to this topic

do you know that you have the answers on this topic?

It seems that you didn't do enough research.....

There are 3 developers? Are they in discord or telegram? What are there names?

External team about blockchain stuff? What kind of stuff? I’m sure blockchain is basically the entire damn project. Do you know who this team is?

Why is Electra even hiring external people  to work on blockchain stuff? Those same people will work on other projects or are already doing it. Are you using freelancer website to find people?!?! How do we know quality of code? Team member can’t check quality if they can’t even code it - “looks good” LOL

There’s a new thing called KYD - Know Your Developer

Apparently the Electra team does not want to tell us who their developers are.

I’m glad you at least admit that you’re using EXTERNAL devs. Why did it take so many months for the team to finally hire someone? Can you give us their contact info or the name of the company you’re using? No reason to be anonymous if they are a legit company. Investors should know who is working on the project.

I’m sure the Electra Foundation will have to disclose where money is spent? Let’s start now. Or are we going to say e01 payments are different? Sometimes the foundation pays and sometimes e01 pays for anonymous stuff?

Electra is a community project, yet no one wants to volunteer. Do you all expect e01 to continue paying for everything? You already have Ruru asking the community for money to cover vps expenses. Why doesn’t e01 cover her expenses?

Robert - You are the most honest and respected person on Electra team. Why do I now see you involved in so many different telegram projects? Also clearly investing in some of them. You used to be 100% Electra. Seeing you investing and being part of other groups makes people question your dedication.

How much Electra do you even own? I’m sure you will have to disclose this information if you’re part of the foundation. Just like stocks of a company, the investors and public should know how many shares you have.

@Everyone and @LightinOut

I'd like to close this topic through below message as i noticed that one of his tweets confirmed he is the same person as BOTERO on discord who claims to have lost 160mln ECA and holds the project responsible. https://twitter.com/lightinout/status/1070203781030268928


@lightInOut, also known as Botero on our Discord, claimed to have lost 160mln ECA without him being at fault. As such he contacted the team to compensate him either through forking the extra 160mln or ask E01 to compensate him.
As we always state in our disclaimers that we are never responsible for usage of our products and/or loss of ECA our answer could have been short but we took the time and investigated this matter together with this person. Our usersupport team and other team members spent hours and this matter was also discussing 3 times during our team meetings.

The end conclusion was that the wallet from this person was not flawed and it was visible that the transaction was made after insertion of the password.
See below the official response from the usersupport team on behalf of the project towards his claim to be compensated:

"Botero, after much testing and discussion, and over many discord sessions with you with a number of our team members, we regret to inform you that we are unable to reimburse you at this time for your coins. Reason stated below: the wallet is working has normal. Though, from your perspective this may not be true, the coins were sent and received in another address. This is normal function for a wallet. As to how those were transferred though, we can not confirm that as that is the case to any transaction. You stated that you have encrypted your wallet with very strong encryption. This alone would stop coins being sent only if the encryption password was used. Other way coins can be sent is if they have your private key, which a encryption password is not needed to add it to a wallet but is needed to dump from the wallet if the wallet is encrypted.
In our conversations with you and our team, we have noticed there was no bug or flaw in the wallet. In saying this, there is no way to prove if coins were sent wrongly out of the wallet by another user or yourself. ECA has one of the best tech support and these are the conclusions we have come up with. We are not here to guess if the coins were accidently sent to the incorrect wallet or if coins were sent correctly and the user does not have access to the new address. We also are fully aware of bugs that can be in the wallet though in your situation, is not the case due to the coins being sent and properly on the blockchain.

Thank you for your patience as we look and take each of these with dedication and want for all our users to have the coins they deserve. We did setup a channel just for you situation for us to discuss and you were brought up a number of times in team meetings with a number of hours for a number of support and dev personnel in trying to solve your unfortunate circumstance as you have shown.  We also understand that you may not agree with this conclusion and decision but these are the facts at hand. If you have any final questions, please feel free to ask but do note that this is our final decision. Thank you."


Everyone who still has questions can contact the usersupport team or myself on Discord. If people wish to help Botero / LightinOut by donating to him, I suggest to visit either Discord or contact him directly. Loosing crypto is something terrible and unfortunately happens regularly.

Best regards,
Robert

Hello anonymous person,

You sent me a twitter message from your anonymous twitter account past 24 hours wherein you asked for contact details of our devs.
You know crypto is all about anonymity, in fact you're operating anonymous where I chose to reveal my identity. ANd now you ask for the identity of devs that work on Electra. That sounds a bit strange doesn't it? IF people decide to stay anonymous we should respect that.

At this moment we work with internal as well as external devs to complete the work for Electra. In fact, as you may know from the past, E01 was responsible for the fork and still pays the cost related to hiring external devs working on phase 1 and phase 2 fork. This is all coordinated by Ruru.

Also what you should know is that we have the code in our private github (just like with phase 1) and when we're ready to go live with whatever we want to release, it get's pushed to the general github.

Eitherway, you have no right to claim to speak to the devs. They have more important things to do then defending themselves to someone accusing them and/or the project from false behavior or scamming.

Feel free to continue here or whereever, or conscience is clean and once the code is pushed into the github you'll see what work has been done.

Finally... yes... the past year was hard for us and some people left. In a matter of fact getting good devs is hard and dont even start about getting good devs willing to volunteer. Thats why we are gratefull and extremely happy Ruru is with us and coordinating both the internal as external devs as well as finishing ElectraPay herself.

Once E01 is back (he paid off military service and in his country it means you only have to serve 3 weeks) he will be able to respond to you but it wouldnt surprise me he doesnt find your comments worthy enough to spend energy on.
But about him dont forget he paid for exchange listings, he paid for dev work on the fork phase 1 and 2 and he already donated 100mln to the foundation where the remaining 200 mln come when he gets back.

You're not new in fudding or calling stuff fishy or related to exit scam and you certainly wont be the last.

@LightInOut

Putting so much energy into creating false information is wonderful, that's how the manipulation works. You expose false truths to frighten people and make the price drop in order to be able to fill our bags at lower costs. so classic... 

so! You said that Ruru is the only active dev? wrong.. oops! Ruru is the lead dev so she talk about the dev for the team. As Ivan earlier this year. same thing.

She works with another Dev on Electrapay. the first part is done and testing right now. For this test in real conditions, she had to setup a specific server via AWS. If you know AWS, you know it can be surprising in term of cost.

About the fork, E01 explained it clearly. He was in charge of it, had some problems finding a competent team. His error was to not communicate with the community team about that, agreed on this point.

Then a team member found a team of dev who accepted to make the fork with us. E01 handle the payment of the team on his own funds.  the first phase was released, and the second is currently in test. BTC core update, AS and others things...

If you are smart enough, you can see the fork progress on github. Still it is necessary to know how to use github....


About the recruitment announcement, it's for the next step of the project. I think you can understand that, the next release is not the end.... the project gains in technical growth and offers, therefore in human need to correctly carry out the whole project.

No need to be a scientist to understand that -_-


In summary there are actually 3 dev working on the current stuff, and a external team about blockchain stuff. (and it's only the ones I see myself, so it's not a restrictive number of course)

I understand you, it's easier to spread false information than doing serious research. And good idea to create an account especially to spread all your false stuff, it's very credible   





Sorry if my sentences are not perfect, it's not my original language

Look what happened to them this year

Ivan the lead dev left

Fork gets delayed

Absolutely nothing done or released until maybe December?

Something is happening behind the scenes and the core team is not being transparent with their investors or community.

They either have no developers ( another delay ), luckily found some volunteers ( why haven’t we seen them interact with the community), or they finally started paying someone to fix this mess.

Here’s the problems with the answers above

1. More delays

2. They found volunteers but they aren’t active in the community. That goes against the project

3. They finally decided to outsource the work. Where is this money coming from? They can only have Electra or Bitcoin to pay for this. Either option involves hurting their own community.

They have to sell Electra for btc... or they pay the work in Electra and I’m sure that gets sold cause they want to get paid. Lots of stuff being released in December and lots of recent dumps. What a coincidence!!!

Ruru is asking for money to cover vps expenses. Why doesn’t e01 pay for it? If he doesn’t then they expect the community to cover everything?!

Now e01 goes off to military service? Big exit scam coming or announcements won’t be what you all expect. The project isn’t even sustainable if they have to keep outsourcing the work. Where is the money coming from?!

These are all questions investors should be asking themselves

It’s not fud. Do your research and stop listening to what they keep telling you. Same story over and over again

I’ve asked Robert, Ruru, Aman and “MasterDen” to provide the contact info of other team developers, besides Ruru. They never give me an answer! their discord is full of people trying to get access to a rain room so they can collect eca then sell it for being active. 99% write stupid robotic comments and talk to themselves to remain active. Again, go look yourself. Nothing like it was months ago with a real community.

Ask the core team yourself and see what they say. I know plenty of devs in other projects that are at have a role on discord. They say they have a team or devs but are they not a part of the community?

Lastly their community project manager is Ruru? There was a tweet that said an Electra c++ dev finished something. Please tell us who that dev is cause I have a lot of questions for them. I’ve never seen any devs in discord or telegram. Don’t give us the bs that they are too busy coding or don’t have the time to talk. That will just show their priorities are not towards the community

It’s not fud when it’s true. Ask them yourself

I don't know if the project is now dormant or not, but I know that a couple of months earlier I have joined their Discord and I saw a lot of activity in there. Maybe they are working behind the scenes, as many core devs don't have time to talk to the community also, they have a Community Manager for this. Or maybe I am wrong and you are right I don't know what really happens inside the project, but the best thing to do is to join their Discord channel and talk to people in there about the development of the project and ask for any info that you are interested in.

All you are doing now, here, is to spread FUD and maybe the project doesn't deserve it.
Why the FUD is bad for a project when is moving slowly or the price is down? Well, because the investors will come in here and read about it, so with FUD you only can make things worst. Just my 2 cents..

Cheers G

There are no developers! Go into any project and you will see developers talking and giving updates to the community.

Electra only has Ruru?  unbelievable! Ask them for the contact or names of others. then also see how fast you get banned or they tell you to talk to Ruru.

I dont want to talk to Ruru!

They want to release atomic swaps, mobile wallets, electrapay and all this stuff in December but I can only talk to Ruru? what kind of a community project is this?

wake up people

100% scam... I've been asking these questions and no one can answer them - even core members.

1. Why is e01 still staking? He has millions of ECA... WTF

2. Why is Ruru the only "dev" that's active? I've asked for the contacts of other devs but never get an answer... why? Because there are NONE or it's being outsourced. If the devs are being outsouced then here's the big issues.

- The outsourced devs are getting paid with ECA, who then dump it back on to their community - remember that big sell off? Makes sense
- or the devs are paid with BTC, but who is paying them? I don't see e01 paying or asking for community contributions... OH WAIT

They just asked for money because Ruru had to pay for some server bills... LOL there is an expense for running a business. This just shows that Electra cannot last longterm since they are going to keep asking for money or voluntary help. Flawed business model. Especially when e01 has MILLIONS of ECA unbelievable!

3. "MasterDen" keeps talking about new exchanges or partnerships. Over and over again. WTF - just pay for it and get listed! This is all bullshit because ECA is 100% voluntary, so where the hell would they get the money to pay for the exchanges? Exchanges all accept BTC so they are selling on their own community to get listed or are just lying to everyone.

ITS NOT HARD... PAY THE EXCHANGE THEN GET LISTED

No wonder it takes 6+ months for them to release something!

open up your eyes... and now e01 is on mandatory military leave? right before everything is supposed to be released? you have got to be kidding me

There can't be any doubt that there is tons of fake volume and bots at work on all major exchanges. That is just how it is.

https://t.me/ElectracoinECA
https://discordapp.com/invite/B8F7Jdv

Even though developers can't do anything about the fake volume above are the official chat channels of Electra you can have your voice heard over there.