Topic: [ANN][ICO] «Envion» Most Profitable Self-Expanding Crypto Infrastructure - page 195. (Read 125689 times)

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I am from this industry, I have asked questions over and over, they simply ignore it and they spread false calculations and have completely unrealistic ideas or just lie about the project. I have built mining containers myself and, it takes a while to build them and you need to order electrical appliances that are not available easy at all times.

To build 200 pcs/month is total nonsense, you would need about 700 people with experience  to do that and there is no hardware readily available for them, especially transformators.

Also they act like every powerstation has transformators ready for theyr mining containers. This is untrue, almost no power station has this available because there is no need and the invetsment can be up to 30K USD for a transformator and cabling.

On top, in most countries there is no way you could put up a container somewhere, either because in northern developed countries you are not allowed to do so, and in southern countries its to cold to do this, no matter what cooling system you use because if outside temperature is 40, asics want work no matter how much air you move,

Last but not least, excess energy, give me a break, this happens like 50 hrs / year and you can check this on EEX, its nonsense, do they realy believe people are so stupid to build a powerstation for millions and then find out nobody needs the energy ? There is an exchange for electricity and energy has its price. Also the highest price for energy is paid for regular electricity which is what they need.

Also the standard way to build a container as done by many other companies holds about 150 miners with like 1200 GPU and not 60 with only 500 GPU.
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About the 161% I have posted earlier, there is no f.. way to make these returns for you guys, please use your brain, there is a reason they ban everybody and do not allow to check or discuss the calculation

Actually, certain proofs and documents are promised to be released before the ICO. Right now, it's just a matter of waiting to see what information can be released and confirmed. The timing is unfortunate in terms of how late the information is, but let's see what we get in the next 24 hours.

Laurent banned me for asking to release any of proofs or documents that they promised here or in telegram.
I wasnt rude. I am interested in investing. I even explained him he can black out critical info.
All they say is no warn u if u ask again then ban u.
Tell ppl to use search function.
Anyway its day to ico and they promised to release some info.
I bet none will be.

Looks like this ico is based on promises and hype only.

Its okay if u invest 1000 or 2000$ but its not if you want invest 100 000 or 300 000 is it?

If you ask some hard proofs they will ban you. Yeh so other sheep won't see it.

Absolute bullshit

I really don't understand how it makes a difference whether crypto miners are using fossil fuels or renewable energy. Everyone is connected to the electrical grid and the energy supply adapts to the energy demand on that grid.

They mention taking overcapacity due to the fluctuating nature of renewable energy off the grid, but it's not fully explained why only Envion's GPU miners in a container can do that, while other GPU miners make the problem worse.

Thank you for this Information...

The CEO himself backed envion by over a million. Then they got some funding from a bank/investor. This was used for R&D, building up the team and starting marketing/ production. I can imagine this money also helped to be acknowledge as serious company for setting up the amibitous production line of 200MMUs/month.

You have to have an ambitious goal to drive the success of your business. I think envion is starting at the right time with the right size. Everything below would mean they are just too small to be considered by energy supplier/plants and so on.

You are right: They have to deliver, they have to prove themselves being capable of doing this business. This team will proof everything. They will deliver. I am highly convinced.

Why not building more MMUs? I think it's always the question of time, budget, performance/quality. Having a dozen of MMUs already up and running could have caught attention.
I think they have a master plan and they are executing quite well. Let the pros do their jobs.

So let's see.

You need one of the following:

-Passport

OR

-National Identity card*(both sides)

OR

-Driving Licence AND Residence Permit*(both sides)

If you have the Passport or the national ID, you don't need the Driving Licence and Residence Permit.

On december the 15th when ICO starts you can buy the Envion Tokens (envion.org) and do your KYC (that's where you need your ID or Passport).

The token gives you the right to receive dividends.
What envion blockchain do you mean? There is no...

You obviously didn't read the whitepaper nor the posts in this thread, please visit envion.org or search the posts. It will resolve many questions you have.

You totally got the point. This investment brings us double ROI. No other coin/token offers it in such way. Envion decided to take the tough path, the path officially offer a security token. This is a more expensive and way more bureaucratic way. This is the right way - just from the beginning. They have a huge and ambitious project but they take it really serious.

Why are tokens needed for a mining trailer that uses GPUs that are POW agnostic for the most part?

What does the envion blockchain offer that others do not?

I get that the ICO helps raise money for R&D...I understand it probably costs alot to prototype these, but as I learned with ASICS from Avalon, BFL and some others it takes a very long time to build tech and sometimes it does not even work out in time before your overrun by new tech.

Iam watching this post since the start... I just registered but i have to mention something i discovered today....

Envion AG has already set request for Trademark Logo and name... Everyone knows that to set a Trademark Logo and Name cost even if is accepted or not you pay... So i do not know if anyone cares about that but i do care since i am already convinced about this investment....


I do not belong nore have any connections with Envion AG at the current moment until i get my tokens !!! Good luck to Envion AG and to their investors(including me)

You look at the ROI in terms of the token value at the exchange. If we speculate on this, there could be bigger ROI for ENV than 161%. But the 161% that Envion is referring to is only the ROI tokenholders will receive as dividends payout. This token has double ROI possibility if you look at it that way.

Actually, 161% is considered low ROI in cryptocurrency. Think about it, when some people seemingly have the ability to generate triple digit returns on a daily basis, 161% ROi is really quite meager in comparison. However, the flipside is that the expected volatility of the returns from Envion are not nearly as high as investing in Dogecoin, for example.

They plan to have lots of this units, not just one so only then we will see what happens (also in different weather conditions).
I think It's too big project with lots of money expecting from investors just to have one container tested in Germany. It could have been more serious if they put dozen of containers in different world parts and then monitor their performance and also the transport part would have been tested.

As I said, great idea in theory, but we can only wait and see what happens.

I thing they tested the wind channel with the smoke machine. This is pure guessing - but that would make sense. With an camera on the inside they could see how the air flows through the container.

What do you mean by no serious testing? The first unit was outside for one whole month in Germany. That is not a desert but it can be very stormy and rainy.

As for the power plants - just research unused energy from renewable sources. There is a overcapacity problem.

I've read the whole thread about this project and I am really interested in investing in this ICO.

Only thing that bothers me that in theory it really is a good idea, but I'm not sure how it will be prosecuted since they didn't do any serious testings. Also is not that simple to just relocate these containers, as it sounds. And which power plant will just easily let them to connect on it?

But as with any ICO, is risky, and I am not sure that ROI will be that high.

On ICOdrops they say that this project has low ROI
https://icodrops.com/envion/


Also, video with blue smoke?? It doesn't look professional

Our pricing advantage comes from overcapacities in the renewables market. 

Overcapacity = wasted energy
Renewables = endless supply

You must be thinking of conventional coin mining instead.

You are absolutely right.  We did some testing and the testing console was still inside the MMU and cables management was not complete.  Our techs tear it down and put it back together on a regular basis while testing new configs.  The shelving we have works great for now and we are also testing additional designs that absorb shock and allow easier access to certain components. 

Development will always be ongoing for both software and hardware, so pardon our dust when we try to give you a peak inside the process.  You can find other videos we have where things are a bit more tidy on our social media channels.

Envion is trying to find a solution for the potential energy crisis that could be a consequence of massive crypto mining. With prices of cryptos rising there will be more people wanting to get involved with mining and therefore mining could potentially sucker up the energy supply of the world. Envion wants to solve this before shit hits the fan, by using cheap, renewable energy. I would go as far as to say that Envion is a environment friendly, sustainable mining solution.