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Matthias Woestmann is also a CEO at Quadrat Capital for the last 14 years (https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthias-woestmann-b87922119/).
The domain age for Quadrat Capital is just over a year old though.

The history and obscureness of the people heading Envion is highly ambiguous. 
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Check the German Trade Register ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Trade_Register ) for Quadrat Capital. They are around for ages.
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Bpress, grow up and do your homework before making baseless accusations. Is it too difficult to do some research and/or ask some questions before shouting around?

If you would have done some research you'd have found out that the payout is in ETH. The EVN token is used for the smart contract and delivery of the payout. Why should Envion not be able to compete with other big players? Doesn't $150m make them a big player with privileged access to cheap energy and preferential hardware deals? Also very detailed calculations available on ROI etc.

Show me any other ICO with this level of detailed information, transparency and communications,
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Absolute scam! I wouldn't put 1cent in it. There's no roadmap on their website, they use ROI as the main bait for ppl to buy in the project. How can this run against the big players in the market? Why do you need a token for this project, that token will be considered as a security therefore not trade on big exchange. They will be the one getting all the profit from other cryptos while you get paid back in a worthless token. Please enlighten me and convince me I'm wrong
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I will support the project, but I see many things what I did not liked in this video https://www.facebook.com/envion.org/videos/1911148582546478/

It is notable that the layout is very little developed, cables everywhere, space left, two tables for computers and each one occupying a lot of space, difficult access to the GPUs of the back shelves ... Maintaining the equipment will be extremely arduous when we come to see the large-scale business. Servicing a few units by dragging shelves? Okay, but what about 500? 5000? I do not think so ...

I didnt see questions about this Envion gap in anyware, so... it is highly necessary need improves on this internal layout, improve the positioning of the shelves, create a solution to facilitate the movement (eg introduction of bearings for the shelf to move inside the container helping to access those GPUs that are behind) optimize the system to be modular, make possible the stacking of the containers. I see enormous potential unexplored. Before starting mass production, they should hire engineers to give you a best layout, become modular, facilitate maintenance and make the most space as possible in the container. Lets do more, if you dont do, another do! This is the law in new blockchain era!
 

Tell me what Envion think about these considers. My english is not the best, but I think that can be understood. 🚀🌑
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Hi, is the ethereum congestion (because of cryptokitties) a threat to announced ICO date of 15th December? Do you think that ETH network problem is going to be fixed until then ?

No threat ahead, just set you gas a little bit higher and then there should be no problem to get your Ethereum through the network easily.

How high is higher though? With these kitties congesting the network, it's not obvious what gas price is sufficient these days, it's been going up and up over time. Definitely not as straightforward as it seems.

For now the ETH congestion seems to have been resolved. Have a look at: https://ethgasstation.info/ current recommended gwei is 10, its still more than it was, but its not 50 anymore. You can use this website to find out how high you need to set the gwei for your transaction to certainly go through. Just set it at the SafeLow or higher than it will go through.
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There is absolutely no information about matthias woestmann and the Solon AG.

ABSOLUTELY ZERO.


Matthias Woestmann is also a CEO at Quadrat Capital for the last 14 years (https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthias-woestmann-b87922119/).
The domain age for Quadrat Capital is just over a year old though.

The history and obscureness of the people heading Envion is highly ambiguous. 

Great concept of being able to move where the costs are low. Blockchain mining companies in China like BitMain have cashed out massively with the boom of cryptocurrency values recently. They don't need any funding to adapt to sustainable and more powerful rigs so if Envion is a true company, their return on investments are highly optimistic.

Grain of salt here people.

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Are there any news regarding an investment opportunity for "normal" German private investors or dues the BAFIN regulation exclude that?
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Hi, is the ethereum congestion (because of cryptokitties) a threat to announced ICO date of 15th December? Do you think that ETH network problem is going to be fixed until then ?

No threat ahead, just set you gas a little bit higher and then there should be no problem to get your Ethereum through the network easily.

How high is higher though? With these kitties congesting the network, it's not obvious what gas price is sufficient these days, it's been going up and up over time. Definitely not as straightforward as it seems.
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Hi, is the ethereum congestion (because of cryptokitties) a threat to announced ICO date of 15th December? Do you think that ETH network problem is going to be fixed until then ?

No threat ahead, just set you gas a little bit higher and then there should be no problem to get your Ethereum through the network easily.
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Hi, is the ethereum congestion (because of cryptokitties) a threat to announced ICO date of 15th December? Do you think that ETH network problem is going to be fixed until then ?
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Envion "Team"...As an old man with some wisdom and experience I must say that there are more questions left unanswered than I see with other ICOs and it seems your lack of transparency is your Achilles Heel. This market is built upon full transparency and while I was tempted to invest in the beginning, the following gaps will cause me to stay on the sidelines...

1. Zero transparency on founding team
2. Invitation to Berlin to see MMU but then saying you don't want to disappoint visitors with unit offline
3. No video of operating unit
4. No live mining data or metrics, again not wanting to disappoint with inoperable MMU
5. Promises of notarized LOIs prior to ICO, then saying it won't happen until after
6. Depending on older technology while supplies are limited on newer technology...danger of being obsolete out of the starting gate and not being able to meet production goals in manufacturing AND mining
7. My gut...and as an employee of one of the most innovative data center companies in the World, my gut is educated on green energy

Bottom-line...there are just too many gaps in your story


Operational vid

https://www.facebook.com/envion.org/videos/1911148582546478/

What u guys think?
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Highest ROI crypto infrastructure
It's funny to see people questioning every step without thinking about their own demands and what kind of information they want to read.
I am not sure if you are familiar with contracts, partnerships and so on. Some contracts will never see the public light. They have to be kept in secret under NDAs for example.

If you want to invest in a company which already offer 1000 MMUs generating huge profits, published huge contracts is already established in this world you could come to the conclusion, that this company doesn't need your capital anymore.
It's stated very clearly on every corner:
- Envion needs this capital to start their already negotiated production line building 200MMUs/ Month
- Making deals with energy supplier, energy plants and third-party stakeholders

Nobody is telling you that you will receive your ROI right in the first week, when they start paying you your dividends. It is clearly calculated annually.

It also seems you don't know anything about ponzi schemes or asset backed tokens called securities. If they wouldn't start building any MMUs at all..we could start questioning the whole business.

It feels like you have to do a lot more research and building up more knowledge. Then you will understand much more.
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Hi guys,

I have a question, how you will share the profit with token holders ? is it by giving the mined coin such as bitcoin or eth ? or are you going to issue new tokens ?

because I usually have this question how does ICO companies share the profit ?

I advise you to read the whitepaper, its all explained clear in there. But to answer your question: Envion will mine the most profitable coins and then convert the mining revenues into Ethereum. This ETH will then be paid out to the ENV tokenholders on a weekly basis according to the amount of token they hold.
ICO's that have a profit sharing model have different ways to share the profit with their investors. I think the Envion model is quite unique because it will become a passive income source for the holders thoughout the year, unlike others that only share profit once a year, ENV will pay out the dividents to their holders every week.
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Nice project! I read about dual currency mining, which currencies are you guys planning to mine? who decides which coin is going to be mined? And what is the problem solver when the difficulty goes up for specific coins?

Currently it will mine Bitcoin and Ethereum. The software decides what is profitable and switches automated in case one of those coins are not profitable anymore. The MMUs scale up over time so the difficulty shouldn't be much of a problem.

Can you explain how you will pay 161% in profits to all tokenholders starting January and at the same time building up your facilities over time ?

I thought this is either or ?

Because if you do not build up and have it running by say January, you will need to pay dividens from your capital and then what you become is a ponzi scheme, If you only raise 10 Mio USD, you will need for example 6000 s9 miners delivered in January, in order to do so, you must have paid and ordered them back in October, otherwise you need to buy on the secondary market for double the price, then the calculation does not work anymore.

SO MY QUESTION IS:

1) HOW DO YOU BUILD UP OVER TIME AND IMMEDIATLY AT THE SAME MOMENT
2) HOW MANY S9 HAVE YOU ORDERED AND PAID BY NOW ?

For the 161% ROI calculation please look here: https://medium.com/@envion/exemplary-hardware-specifications-kpis-of-envions-mmu-ff5fb77cd5da

Envion has contracts with mining equipment producers and set everything up months ago to start production as soon as ICO ends.
The production line is capable to produce 200 MMUs per month.

This is a company approaching manufacturers with millions in capitals. They rather serve comapnies first than little consumers like you. So there won't be a problem.

Only words no single document shared
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We just want to get out in front of the Hacked.com article that came out today that doesn't paint envion in the best light.

The author tried to threaten and extort us.  I don't think he was happy with the results.  You are all welcome to see the evidence of this that was posted to Telegram as it happened (so you can easily find the record of it to show it's not a doctored image)

Article: https://hacked.com/ico-analysis-envion/
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Proof post: https://t.me/Envion/22360

You can draw your own conclusions.



Yeah, the article wasn't the best for image. I'm curious about that Florida video story. I'd love some clarification on what that was all about as I can't figure it out.
The only concern that I shared with the Hacked author was that I have also have been asking the same set and I haven't heard answers yet. I've asked questions twice here on the largest crypto-currency and once Telegram (see my questions on this page above). I was also asking about the partnerships and supply chain so maybe that's why I didn't get a response.

No matter. Big 4 audit should qualm scam fears. I don't think you can fake that?

@Envion Team.
The question is, is the BIG4 audit going to audit the supply chain too?
The plan of working, basically will they review scalability and if it's feasible to do.   

Can you provide the following information:

- How will Envion pay dividends in the first months, when say 150M capital is raised?
- Are there pilot projects? 
- Are there intention letters from power plants to cooperate? And how far is this globally spread, do deals need to be closed or are there negotiations active?
- Can we receive confirmation that the supplier of the rigs, can provide such a quantity in short period - are these build to order, or is it ready to go stock? 

Let me know Smiley.


Sorry it took a while to get your questions answered.

We have one firm consulting on ICO, token, financial regulators, etc.  We have another coming in for auditing that will also take a look at operations.  So yes, there will be two firms and reports will be made public.  Announcement on second firm coming, but may not have something for public before sale starts.

We have a unit up and running and a second one coming online in a few days. 

Yes, we're working on getting notarized confirmation of LOIs.  However, we will not be signing contracts until after ICO.  Performance of ICO will determine which offers we can fulfill and in what order. 

The supply line has been negotiated before ICO announcement and is ready to start producing ASAP in January.  We can't reveal our suppliers or prices unfortunately.  Part of our R&D process was to eliminate as many proprietary parts and designs as possible in favor of standard components. We still have custom PCBs and other parts, but wherever possible we are using parts that are cheap to procure, easy to maintain, and easy to assemble.  Anyone can use a special part, but it's expensive and slows down production so a lot of time was spent thinking about how to accelerate production and reduce complexity.

So where is that audit report?
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i dunno... does this seem sustainable to you guys>??
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Great work.This will be mine first ico. Hope to win with you guys.
1 dolar seems a bit high for ico but want to try this one first.
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great!
love your project. very solid staff and nice promotion campaign. will support it.
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Nice project! I read about dual currency mining, which currencies are you guys planning to mine? who decides which coin is going to be mined? And what is the problem solver when the difficulty goes up for specific coins?

Currently it will mine Bitcoin and Ethereum. The software decides what is profitable and switches automated in case one of those coins are not profitable anymore. The MMUs scale up over time so the difficulty shouldn't be much of a problem.

Can you explain how you will pay 161% in profits to all tokenholders starting January and at the same time building up your facilities over time ?

I thought this is either or ?

Because if you do not build up and have it running by say January, you will need to pay dividens from your capital and then what you become is a ponzi scheme, If you only raise 10 Mio USD, you will need for example 6000 s9 miners delivered in January, in order to do so, you must have paid and ordered them back in October, otherwise you need to buy on the secondary market for double the price, then the calculation does not work anymore.

SO MY QUESTION IS:

1) HOW DO YOU BUILD UP OVER TIME AND IMMEDIATLY AT THE SAME MOMENT
2) HOW MANY S9 HAVE YOU ORDERED AND PAID BY NOW ?

For the 161% ROI calculation please look here: https://medium.com/@envion/exemplary-hardware-specifications-kpis-of-envions-mmu-ff5fb77cd5da

Envion has contracts with mining equipment producers and set everything up months ago to start production as soon as ICO ends.
The production line is capable to produce 200 MMUs per month.

This is a company approaching manufacturers with millions in capitals. They rather serve comapnies first than little consumers like you. So there won't be a problem.
newbie
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Hi guys,

I have a question, how you will share the profit with token holders ? is it by giving the mined coin such as bitcoin or eth ? or are you going to issue new tokens ?

because I usually have this question how does ICO companies share the profit ?
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