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legendary
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September 18, 2014, 02:04:57 PM
Except that you're NOT welcome when you get kicked out for having a neutral position and ask questions Tongue
I believe he kicked you because you said you did not want to be involved. Trello is for people focusing on helping karma. You're welcome to keep posting in this thread. Not that anyone can prevent you from posting but i welcome your post. i like to read them. even though you sneak in a line or two of belittling karma.  

I try to be even-handed -- "tough on ideas and soft on the people"


1. What problem does Karma solve?
What problem does Bitcoin Solve? What problem does givecoin2 solve?

Bitcoin has claimed the throne as the value exchange token.  There are ancillary uses that we're seeing like timestamping services et al.

As for 2Give ?  That is a very good and fair question!  In its current state Givecoin is just as broken as Karma -- I readily admit that.  What it does have going for it is, IMHO, a more reasonable number of tokens -- it has a good marketing history and I think it has the right kind of optics on its utility for charitable giving.  We intend to use the coin as the default currency within https://doabitofgood.com and leverage it to facilitate "underwriting" activity where supporters will buy coins from non-profits and turn around and re-donate them back to other causes, thus bringing about a "virtuous cycle" in charitable giving.

Karma already has a healthy block chain. It moves form one block to the other in 1 minute average. for months. As my previous analogy , Karma blockchain is like an envelope. We got a perfect working system where we can send this envelope anywhere in the world. But we are lacking efforts in choosing what the best item to put inside that envelope. The community is made of few people who want to figure out best item to go inside the envelope and a lot , mostly of people who are too busy to invest on the price of the stamps for this envelope.

We have a coin catering to miners and investors. We are strongly tied to them mentally. People think the coin is failing because the price is falling down. They to blinded with their silly illusion that $100 will make them into millionaires. They so married to the price of satoshis and are angry that their mistress is Litoshi.

They forgot that it took one idea 6 months ago to turn this coin from 10 litoshi prices into a $3 million market cap coin. Coin was "dead" i remember this words. if one group of people came up with a LLC idea and boomed the coin to %3000 rise , imagine how much more we can achieve as a bigger group.

Remember. Bitcoin "died" many times. Litecoin "died" many times.

And herein lies the rub -- Karma as a coin for miners and investors I BELIEVE is counter to the coins purpose.  Karma doesn't want to be hoarded or be rewarded for its exchange.  Karma is meant for giving and maybe receiving some benefit for doing good.

If someone is in Karma for financial gain I can hope for nothing more than to see it crash to the point of irrelevance.  I'm just being honest here.  Not a popular position among the fanboys but I'm not one for telling people what they want to hear.

2. Why should someone be interested in supporting it?

because it has one of the best name out there. The main hook of this coin is the name. because it has some die hard fans. Because it has proven to be still a working coin for months. Because it is a coin focused on good. And good always prevails.

And on this point you and I are in 120% agreement -- however I worry that the ideals of the coin have and are being subverted for antithetical uses and purposes by special interests swayed (neigh, blinded) by their own self-serving interests to monetize on their efforts.

As long as it has a working blockchain the coin is never dead. having this perfect name it is very easy to find sympathy from anyone. tons of people want to see a coin like Karma become something. Everyone believes in its concept.

Because it has people like East who come online every day to work for this coins.

Because it has people who owns million and millions of coin who sit there do nothing all day.... wait no. this is bad!

It CAN die if people stop mining it and if exchanges cease to find profitable value in facilitating it's trade.

3. What makes Karma different than say Litecoin?

Technological wise the many difference that makes any coin different from any others.
Real usage wise we dont now yet because both of them have not found their true market yet. No coin has found its true spot in the top of the chain. even Bitcoin. Sometimes people forget how little bitcoin has achived compared to its true potentials.

if you look at all the coins out there, they all pretty much as in the same level. at the very beginning of their journey.

But we do have a better name  Tongue

LOL - You have a name.

4. Does the community really want to be associated with Dice games?

This is a provocative question. We are not a nany state. If some people choose to play dice then its their choice. This doesnt mean its a community decision. Its too early to judge the whole community. its just some people having fun in this dark month. Please don't twist the situation.
It's a very fair question.  Of course any currency or asset can be used for questionable purposes.   Again however, you will be judged by the company you keep.  Bitcoin suffers from MT.GOX and Silk Road.  Don't let Karma fall victim to the same taint...

And here's one for you?

Why are you letting eastagle13 co-opt and drive ?  Alphi claimed the community didn't want another "messiah" and yet, it sure looks like you're following one Tongue


Because East is trying to do something while others sit here and talk. He isn't seen as a leader , he is still the same person that has been for months. trying to move forward.

There's nothing dangerous shown on his side. He is only trying to get people to Trello because it separate people between those who want to help and the the trolls who just come here in BTT.

That's the reason asked you to PM us or come to telegram instead , because if you discuss anything here it will spinned into a circle jerk of dramas. When you didnt. i asked you question publicly. it didnt take long before people attacked you based on your comments.

There is some trolls here and a lot of hurt karmanians. We can not keep a healthy conversation in this thread because it will always trigger some one's nervers. that is why we need some outside services to organize and be able to focus on topics.  

But you must clearly see that he has taken a unilateral position of power by controlling the conversation.  You can see the other posts where he offers access to that conversation but then demands fidelity in the form of an unverifiable "pay to play" position.  Just wholly ridiculous.

-dvd
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September 18, 2014, 02:03:57 PM

+1 And because there's people here like bitwho!

Anyway Sir LittleDuke, removing you from trello is nothing personal or a power trip or even meant to offend you, the reason is simple, trello is a project management app. So people who will remain there have something to do with the project. KARMA. You twice admitted being not belonging in either the coin or the community.

You are welcome there anytime. But you have to be a KARMA supporter. Buy some KARMA coins and help us move this good project we call KARMA.

I don't take it personally -- its just hypocritical of you to offer a place to have a conversation for INTERESTED parties when in fact you arbitrarily and capriciously withdrew access on the mere fact that I do not own any of your coins.  That's just ridiculous -- because how would you know anyway? 

And I'm not going prop up your coinbase  by purchasing any of it because fundamentally I think what you have today is broken and I have no interest in rewarding bad behavior.  I am sincerely interested in what it could be....

-dvd

Right I did not know that you don't have the coin, and you were invited in! Until you admitted, now for the third time.

It's your choice.

legendary
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September 18, 2014, 01:44:19 PM

+1 And because there's people here like bitwho!

Anyway Sir LittleDuke, removing you from trello is nothing personal or a power trip or even meant to offend you, the reason is simple, trello is a project management app. So people who will remain there have something to do with the project. KARMA. You twice admitted being not belonging in either the coin or the community.

You are welcome there anytime. But you have to be a KARMA supporter. Buy some KARMA coins and help us move this good project we call KARMA.

I don't take it personally -- its just hypocritical of you to offer a place to have a conversation for INTERESTED parties when in fact you arbitrarily and capriciously withdrew access on the mere fact that I do not own any of your coins.  That's just ridiculous -- because how would you know anyway? 

And I'm not going prop up your coinbase  by purchasing any of it because fundamentally I think what you have today is broken and I have no interest in rewarding bad behavior.  I am sincerely interested in what it could be....

-dvd
legendary
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September 18, 2014, 01:37:05 PM
Twice I called you slow. But I think now is the time to fasten your belt sir, cause you are speeding to prove it.

Uhm...not sure what you point is here?  If you think anonymous feedback makes any impact on me you're wasting your breath and keystrokes...

If you guys want to keep doing your "Fire! Ready? Aim..." approach you're going to keep getting the same results that go you here today.

Fundamentally systems thinking informs us that today's "problems" come from yesterdays "solutions"

You all have passion, I'll give you that.  But without a road-map and a plan you're just spinning slowly towards irrelevance.
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September 18, 2014, 01:30:10 PM

I agree.. give control to Chargin. He is a long standing member of the community and although I don't always agree with him, his heart seems to be in the right place.


+ 1 for Chargin

+ 1
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September 18, 2014, 01:29:01 PM


To those who may want to know what the active community members are doing atm for KARMA you are welcome to join us in trello and chat with us in real time using telegram.

Except that you're NOT welcome when you get kicked out for having a neutral position and ask questions Tongue

You know like:

1. What problem does Karma solve?
2. Why should someone be interested in supporting it?
3. What makes Karma different than say Litecoin?
4. Does the community really want to be associated with Dice games?

And here's one for you?

Why are you letting eastagle13 co-opt and drive ?  Alphi claimed the community didn't want another "messiah" and yet, it sure looks like you're following one Tongue



Really?!? Shocked Grin

Twice I called you slow. But I think now is the time to fasten your belt sir, cause you are speeding to prove it.
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September 18, 2014, 12:13:21 PM


Except that you're NOT welcome when you get kicked out for having a neutral position and ask questions Tongue

I believe he kicked you because you said you did not want to be involved. Trello is for people focusing on helping karma. You're welcome to keep posting in this thread. Not that anyone can prevent you from posting but i welcome your post. i like to read them. even though you sneak in a line or two of belittling karma.  



1. What problem does Karma solve?
What problem does Bitcoin Solve? What problem does givecoin2 solve?

Karma already has a healthy block chain. It moves form one block to the other in 1 minute average. for months. As my previous analogy , Karma blockchain is like an envelope. We got a perfect working system where we can send this envelope anywhere in the world. But we are lacking efforts in choosing what the best item to put inside that envelope. The community is made of few people who want to figure out best item to go inside the envelope and a lot , mostly of people who are too busy to invest on the price of the stamps for this envelope.

We have a coin catering to miners and investors. We are strongly tied to them mentally. People think the coin is failing because the price is falling down. They to blinded with their silly illusion that $100 will make them into millionaires. They so married to the price of satoshis and are angry that their mistress is Litoshi.

They forgot that it took one idea 6 months ago to turn this coin from 10 litoshi prices into a $3 million market cap coin. Coin was "dead" i remember this words. if one group of people came up with a LLC idea and boomed the coin to %3000 rise , imagine how much more we can achieve as a bigger group.

Remember. Bitcoin "died" many times. Litecoin "died" many times.

2. Why should someone be interested in supporting it?

because it has one of the best name out there. The main hook of this coin is the name. because it has some die hard fans. Because it has proven to be still a working coin for months. Because it is a coin focused on good. And good always prevails.

As long as it has a working blockchain the coin is never dead. having this perfect name it is very easy to find sympathy from anyone. tons of people want to see a coin like Karma become something. Everyone believes in its concept.

Because it has people like East who come online every day to work for this coins.

Because it has people who owns million and millions of coin who sit there do nothing all day.... wait no. this is bad!


3. What makes Karma different than say Litecoin?

Technological wise the many difference that makes any coin different from any others.
Real usage wise we dont now yet because both of them have not found their true market yet. No coin has found its true spot in the top of the chain. even Bitcoin. Sometimes people forget how little bitcoin has achived compared to its true potentials.

if you look at all the coins out there, they all pretty much as in the same level. at the very beginning of their journey.

But we do have a better name  Tongue

4. Does the community really want to be associated with Dice games?

This is a provocative question. We are not a nany state. If some people choose to play dice then its their choice. This doesnt mean its a community decision. Its too early to judge the whole community. its just some people having fun in this dark month. Please don't twist the situation.


And here's one for you?

Why are you letting eastagle13 co-opt and drive ?  Alphi claimed the community didn't want another "messiah" and yet, it sure looks like you're following one Tongue


Because East is trying to do something while others sit here and talk. He isn't seen as a leader , he is still the same person that has been for months. trying to move forward.

There's nothing dangerous shown on his side. He is only trying to get people to Trello because it separate people between those who want to help and the the trolls who just come here in BTT.

That's the reason asked you to PM us or come to telegram instead , because if you discuss anything here it will spinned into a circle jerk of dramas. When you didnt. i asked you question publicly. it didnt take long before people attacked you based on your comments.

There is some trolls here and a lot of hurt karmanians. We can not keep a healthy conversation in this thread because it will always trigger some one's nervers. that is why we need some outside services to organize and be able to focus on topics.  

+1 And because there's people here like bitwho!

Anyway Sir LittleDuke, removing you from trello is nothing personal or a power trip or even meant to offend you, the reason is simple, trello is a project management app. So people who will remain there have something to do with the project. KARMA. You twice admitted being not belonging in either the coin or the community.

You are welcome there anytime. But you have to be a KARMA supporter. Buy some KARMA coins and help us move this good project we call KARMA.

legendary
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September 18, 2014, 11:43:07 AM


Except that you're NOT welcome when you get kicked out for having a neutral position and ask questions Tongue

I believe he kicked you because you said you did not want to be involved. Trello is for people focusing on helping karma. You're welcome to keep posting in this thread. Not that anyone can prevent you from posting but i welcome your post. i like to read them. even though you sneak in a line or two of belittling karma.  



1. What problem does Karma solve?
What problem does Bitcoin Solve? What problem does givecoin2 solve?

Karma already has a healthy block chain. It moves form one block to the other in 1 minute average. for months. As my previous analogy , Karma blockchain is like an envelope. We got a perfect working system where we can send this envelope anywhere in the world. But we are lacking efforts in choosing what the best item to put inside that envelope. The community is made of few people who want to figure out best item to go inside the envelope and a lot , mostly of people who are too busy to invest on the price of the stamps for this envelope.

We have a coin catering to miners and investors. We are strongly tied to them mentally. People think the coin is failing because the price is falling down. They to blinded with their silly illusion that $100 will make them into millionaires. They so married to the price of satoshis and are angry that their mistress is Litoshi.

They forgot that it took one idea 6 months ago to turn this coin from 10 litoshi prices into a $3 million market cap coin. Coin was "dead" i remember this words. if one group of people came up with a LLC idea and boomed the coin to %3000 rise , imagine how much more we can achieve as a bigger group.

Remember. Bitcoin "died" many times. Litecoin "died" many times.

2. Why should someone be interested in supporting it?

because it has one of the best name out there. The main hook of this coin is the name. because it has some die hard fans. Because it has proven to be still a working coin for months. Because it is a coin focused on good. And good always prevails.

As long as it has a working blockchain the coin is never dead. having this perfect name it is very easy to find sympathy from anyone. tons of people want to see a coin like Karma become something. Everyone believes in its concept.

Because it has people like East who come online every day to work for this coins.

Because it has people who owns million and millions of coin who sit there do nothing all day.... wait no. this is bad!


3. What makes Karma different than say Litecoin?

Technological wise the many difference that makes any coin different from any others.
Real usage wise we dont now yet because both of them have not found their true market yet. No coin has found its true spot in the top of the chain. even Bitcoin. Sometimes people forget how little bitcoin has achived compared to its true potentials.

if you look at all the coins out there, they all pretty much as in the same level. at the very beginning of their journey.

But we do have a better name  Tongue

4. Does the community really want to be associated with Dice games?

This is a provocative question. We are not a nany state. If some people choose to play dice then its their choice. This doesnt mean its a community decision. Its too early to judge the whole community. its just some people having fun in this dark month. Please don't twist the situation.


And here's one for you?

Why are you letting eastagle13 co-opt and drive ?  Alphi claimed the community didn't want another "messiah" and yet, it sure looks like you're following one Tongue


Because East is trying to do something while others sit here and talk. He isn't seen as a leader , he is still the same person that has been for months. trying to move forward.

There's nothing dangerous shown on his side. He is only trying to get people to Trello because it separate people between those who want to help and the the trolls who just come here in BTT.

That's the reason asked you to PM us or come to telegram instead , because if you discuss anything here it will spinned into a circle jerk of dramas. When you didnt. i asked you question publicly. it didnt take long before people attacked you based on your comments.

There is some trolls here and a lot of hurt karmanians. We can not keep a healthy conversation in this thread because it will always trigger some one's nervers. that is why we need some outside services to organize and be able to focus on topics.  
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September 18, 2014, 11:26:20 AM
Another 2mil+ hit the bankroll, come get those coins Wink

It is first time I played such dice game. Good to know there is no way to trick statistics:) I lost almost everything what I won yesterday. I will not play any more, I am in profit 100.000 KARM so I will keep it:) I made you some nice statistics, but you will have to earn on someone else:)

Sad to hear that, I am not encouraging people to gamble by any means. Like I mentioned before, MultiDice.me makes no profit. Whatever we make we give back to the community. I really want to give you some coins so you can try make back your losses, but that will encourage you to gamble more. Thank you for visiting MultiDice.me
legendary
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September 18, 2014, 09:17:22 AM


To those who may want to know what the active community members are doing atm for KARMA you are welcome to join us in trello and chat with us in real time using telegram.

Except that you're NOT welcome when you get kicked out for having a neutral position and ask questions Tongue

You know like:

1. What problem does Karma solve?
2. Why should someone be interested in supporting it?
3. What makes Karma different than say Litecoin?
4. Does the community really want to be associated with Dice games?

And here's one for you?

Why are you letting eastagle13 co-opt and drive ?  Alphi claimed the community didn't want another "messiah" and yet, it sure looks like you're following one Tongue

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September 18, 2014, 08:56:56 AM
Another 2mil+ hit the bankroll, come get those coins Wink

It is first time I played such dice game. Good to know there is no way to trick statistics:) I lost almost everything what I won yesterday. I will not play any more, I am in profit 100.000 KARM so I will keep it:) I made you some nice statistics, but you will have to earn on someone else:)

smart move, now apply that to crypto.... learn to quit fighting while you are ahead  Tongue
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September 18, 2014, 08:44:27 AM
Another 2mil+ hit the bankroll, come get those coins Wink

It is first time I played such dice game. Good to know there is no way to trick statistics:) I lost almost everything what I won yesterday. I will not play any more, I am in profit 100.000 KARM so I will keep it:) I made you some nice statistics, but you will have to earn on someone else:)
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September 18, 2014, 05:27:11 AM
After kosmost KARMA sent into a black hole in cosmos /space/, it needs a new charge of Chargin!

+ 1 for Chargin
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September 18, 2014, 05:20:45 AM

I agree.. give control to Chargin. He is a long standing member of the community and although I don't always agree with him, his heart seems to be in the right place.


+ 1 for Chargin
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September 18, 2014, 05:01:49 AM
          THIS DUDE REALLY PIST ME OFF, BUT MAYBE THE DIF IS THAT HE NOT LOST AROUND 3 BTC OF KARM

its called due diligence my friend.. obviously you did not do your research before spending 3 btc on coins.
if you had have followed my advice and sold some coins when they were high then you would have actually made money like I did.
the lil sale was not guaranteed and everybody who was paying attention knew this.

if you believed in some of the price predictions and promises that kosmost made then you should only be angry with him,
everyone else was just making price predictions based on pure speculation without any evidence to back it up..

this is the nature of public message boards... people can speculate and dream as much as they want.. and then when their dreams don't come true they can complain and make accusations as much as they want.. but none of it is fact unless you yourself do your own due diligence.

nobody knew that kosmost was going to self destruct and try to take the community down with him but I guess in hind sight it was to be expected since it is what happened to the last project leader. that is why we shouldn't give one person too much control.

people like you who "lost money" obviously panic sold when they couldn't take the heat. If you didn't sell Karma coins you haven't lost anything so I suggest you simply stop hurting your investment with troll posts and wait for it to go back up.. perhaps even try being constructive so it goes back up quicker.

While you are busy being angry, I think you should also take responsibility for your own actions because posted all over every site were disclaimers telling you NOT to invest more than you could afford to lose.

And Judging by your tone, you clearly could not afford to lose 3BTC.



bassieflup has full right to be pissed, whole KarmaShares was scam. He is also right about recent KARM dumping. There were 3 big sales of KARM last 3 days, total 1.3 billion KARM. Nobody had such amount of KARM except very early adopter. Hence It is clear sign, dumper from 31.August is dumping last 3 days. Kosmost is leaving the boat and selling all he can before he move to new scam project. The only good part about this is, there is finite amount of KARM Kosmost owned and his dumping will be soon over. The sooner he dump them all and the sooner he leave forever the better for any possible KARM future. The only difference between KARM and other scam project is, KARM had scammed and pissed more people owning expensive bags and there left some sort of "community". I lost on KARM 2 BTC, even that I dumped at loss at much higher price. I bought some KARM back last days as lottery ticket. But my opinion is there was and still is 1 big scammer involved and there is high probability he was not alone. The only answer I don't know is, when dumper dumps everything will be there any activity after?
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September 18, 2014, 04:20:50 AM



Some improvements on OUR RELATED WEBSITES links, I made them into image links now. A little more attractive to click http://easteagle13.wix.com/karma#!about/cee5


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September 18, 2014, 02:59:07 AM
Another 2mil+ hit the bankroll, come get those coins Wink
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September 18, 2014, 02:46:13 AM

Not sure why, but I withdrew from mintpal to KCfM3sT2km69eK1A5NmKBnnoD7TCrnNrKd and mintpal says confirmed, but can't find it in the blockchain.

EDIT: Okay, all sorted Wink Thanks lads
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