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September 18, 2014, 12:49:10 AM


I vote for Chargin to hold what he can, let us help him with other things he cannot.
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September 18, 2014, 12:47:55 AM


To those who may want to know what the active community members are doing atm for KARMA you are welcome to join us in trello and chat with us in real time using telegram.


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September 18, 2014, 12:19:26 AM
It is a little amusing to read the number of posts that imply Karma should not be treated like a product/service (with an actual plan, roles and responsibilities, analyses, etc) but somehow it should be treated like a business when an "investor" decides to sell at a loss. That somehow it is different because it is crypto, a world where 99% of new coins fail because they don't use tried-and-true methods.

Nobody lost coins because of me. 100% of coins was returned. (Further, one does not "invest" in cryptocurrency. You are always advised not to "invest" more than you can afford to lose. You should assume 100% loss at all times.)

If someone "lost" something it is because they decided to sell coins and realized a loss. To suggest that somehow anyone is responsible for another person's decisions isn't the more reasonable suggestion.

Further, it cannot be said that I acted unreasonably. Especially when no reasonable alternatives were offered.

When considering who should take responsibility for Karma we cannot presume that anyone will behave responsible when that person(s) do not respond to important and pressing matters. That would be "irresponsibility" (lack of response), and I'm not signing up for that.

Our greatest loss regarding Karma, perhaps, is our ability to reason.


I agree with you Kosmost but that does not absolve you of any and all responsibility. you did make a lot of written promises and price predictions that you, for whatever reasons did not follow through on and so the people who believed what you said have every right to feel disappointed.

If you claim to be a leader and claim credit for raising the price of Karma you have to also claim responsibility for your own actions that cause it to fall. This is what being a mature and reasonable and responsible member of the community is all about. You cant take all of the credit and none of the blame.. I'm sorry but it just doesn't work that way in the real world.

My advice to you is to not take insults and trolling from strangers personally, take a step back and focus on how you want to move forward with your life without causing more harm to your personal reputation and to the community through disproportionate and ill considered actions.

BTW there is a perfectly good ignore button on these forums you should try it sometimes... I did and it works well.

If you don't want to pay to keep services open then nobody is expecting you to. just back up the files and shut them down and the community can sort it out later.
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September 17, 2014, 11:33:57 PM
It is a little amusing to read the number of posts that imply Karma should not be treated like a product/service (with an actual plan, roles and responsibilities, analyses, etc) but somehow it should be treated like a business when an "investor" decides to sell at a loss. That somehow it is different because it is crypto, a world where 99% of new coins fail because they don't use tried-and-true methods.

Nobody lost coins because of me. 100% of coins was returned. (Further, one does not "invest" in cryptocurrency. You are always advised not to "invest" more than you can afford to lose. You should assume 100% loss at all times.)

If someone "lost" something it is because they decided to sell coins and realized a loss. To suggest that somehow anyone is responsible for another person's decisions isn't the more reasonable suggestion.

Further, it cannot be said that I acted unreasonably. Especially when no reasonable alternatives were offered.

When considering who should take responsibility for Karma we cannot presume that anyone will behave responsible when that person(s) do not respond to important and pressing matters. That would be "irresponsibility" (lack of response), and I'm not signing up for that.

Our greatest loss regarding Karma, perhaps, is our ability to reason.
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Creator of the ICO
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September 17, 2014, 09:07:58 PM
Warfwarf, Ryan, WHO, ALPHI please check trello board for DEVs we need somethings.
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September 17, 2014, 08:05:57 PM

Are we ready to loose these services? been so many days.

i will support dumping everything that has to do with karmashares and then aggregating the other services onto one server.
what was the point in having a block explorer, check pointing and seed node in 3 different places when they could all presumably run off the same coin daemon?

I really am a newb when it comes to linux servers so I cant offer to take the services over but given how small the community is, it really doesn't make much sense to spread services out all over the place.. neither from a cost or administrative perspective.
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September 17, 2014, 07:31:23 PM


Dear community:


There two important events going on that everyone is lacking involvement.

1. Helping us choose or find the best candidate for Karma services that kosmost is awaiting!
http://karmashares.com/forums/index.php/topic,624.0/topicseen.html
http://www.reddit.com/r/KarmaTeam/comments/2g0v6a/karma_services_property_transition_thread_who/
http://www.reddit.com/r/KarmaTeam/comments/2fvv2f/new_karma_team_needed/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/karmacoin/permalink/1556129881272721/

please note that all of the topics were started by kosmost (who is closing them) and Roy (looking to take them over). Aside of private pms i done and Easts effort there is not one else getting involved in the effort to help this transition.

I can argue so much with kosmost about giving karma more time before the right candidate is fund until times up. Please get involved. Spread the word and start finding more people.

So far the only candidate willing to help is Roy and Duke. What should we do ? 

2. Karma api still need to be funded.......



If you want this coin to survive and move forward we have to be able to make quicker decisions. We can start by each and everyone of you taking the time to interview these great people who volunteered to take over the projects. And we can start showing we care about karma by giving fund to projects. Currently the karma API service


you wanted transparency , well there you have it. How much is karma worth to you ?

Are we ready to loose these services? been so many days.
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September 17, 2014, 07:14:21 PM
          THIS DUDE REALLY PIST ME OFF, BUT MAYBE THE DIF IS THAT HE NOT LOST AROUND 3 BTC OF KARM

its called due diligence my friend.. obviously you did not do your research before spending 3 btc on coins.
if you had have followed my advice and sold some coins when they were high then you would have actually made money like I did.
the lil sale was not guaranteed and everybody who was paying attention knew this.

if you believed in some of the price predictions and promises that kosmost made then you should only be angry with him,
everyone else was just making price predictions based on pure speculation without any evidence to back it up..

this is the nature of public message boards... people can speculate and dream as much as they want.. and then when their dreams don't come true they can complain and make accusations as much as they want.. but none of it is fact unless you yourself do your own due diligence.

nobody knew that kosmost was going to self destruct and try to take the community down with him but I guess in hind sight it was to be expected since it is what happened to the last project leader. that is why we shouldn't give one person too much control.

people like you who "lost money" obviously panic sold when they couldn't take the heat. If you didn't sell Karma coins you haven't lost anything so I suggest you simply stop hurting your investment with troll posts and wait for it to go back up.. perhaps even try being constructive so it goes back up quicker.

While you are busy being angry, I think you should also take responsibility for your own actions because posted all over every site were disclaimers telling you NOT to invest more than you could afford to lose.

And Judging by your tone, you clearly could not afford to lose 3BTC.
legendary
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September 17, 2014, 07:11:41 PM
this is why we need services like trello. To steer away from pointless topics.



Vote with your coins. Dump them and move on. Otherwise join trello. Stop playing the chair game. So easy to type.
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September 17, 2014, 05:36:50 PM
I agree 100% with everything Alphi is talking about.

Alphi summed up very well.

Take your duck and GTFO.
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We at MultiDice Treat You Like a Winner
September 17, 2014, 12:53:34 PM


Lol, I bancrupted it. It does not allow me to bet even 30000 KARM now. If dice game owner wants to make it serious, he will have to buy few hounded million of KARM, it is not worth even to set automatic bot to gamble it like this.

You are lucky... it restricted me to 3000 something bet after a few wins... Why he has no invest option? it would have saved him..

I think he loaded it just with 1 million KARM. Since I won 900,000 KARM there is not much to win now:)  When I started with it, it allowed me to bet even 160,000. I am sure, he will load it with more KARM soon, losing 1 million on first day is not that dangerous for him. Or he has some daily limit there.  Anyway, I can confirm, I was able to load and withdraw money instantly and that my winning probability was even higher than 50%:) This dice game is simply awesome:)

Congrats, that was some lucky bets Wink

I should be able to fill the bankroll with few millions, but just in case someone is willing to donate towards the bankroll and make it even bigger, here is the address.

KMnKwgm44aAH7RADu58GXkdpa8EzJV8rfF
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September 17, 2014, 12:42:02 PM
 Roll Eyes Please do not encourage people to gamble. If you use it and you can handle it that's fine, but don't encourage others because some people will lose and some people may even become addicted.

Chargin.
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September 17, 2014, 11:39:46 AM


Lol, I bancrupted it. It does not allow me to bet even 30000 KARM now. If dice game owner wants to make it serious, he will have to buy few hounded million of KARM, it is not worth even to set automatic bot to gamble it like this.

You are lucky... it restricted me to 3000 something bet after a few wins... Why he has no invest option? it would have saved him..

I think he loaded it just with 1 million KARM. Since I won 900,000 KARM there is not much to win now:)  When I started with it, it allowed me to bet even 160,000. I am sure, he will load it with more KARM soon, losing 1 million on first day is not that dangerous for him. Or he has some daily limit there.  Anyway, I can confirm, I was able to load and withdraw money instantly and that my winning probability was even higher than 50%:) This dice game is simply awesome:)
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September 17, 2014, 11:26:43 AM


Lol, I bancrupted it. It does not allow me to bet even 30000 KARM now. If dice game owner wants to make it serious, he will have to buy few hounded million of KARM, it is not worth even to set automatic bot to gamble it like this.

You are lucky... it restricted me to 3000 something bet after a few wins... Why he has no invest option? it would have saved him..

I will message him so he can post an address.
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September 17, 2014, 11:25:57 AM


Lol, I bancrupted it. It does not allow me to bet even 30000 KARM now. If dice game owner wants to make it serious, he will have to buy few hounded million of KARM, it is not worth even to set automatic bot to gamble it like this.

You are lucky... it restricted me to 3000 something bet after a few wins... Why he has no invest option? it would have saved him..
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September 17, 2014, 11:14:54 AM


OUR TELEGRAM/WEBOGRAM APP IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR OUR REAL TIME CHAT.


1. You need a US phone number to activate the app if you want to stay anonymous, use pinger. http://pinger.com/tfw/
           

"You  need to create an account before you can receive SMS online and you can only choose from US numbers. It might take a few minutes for the site to load, just be patient. Once you have started to register, the site will ask for your US zip code so that a number belonging to the same area could be provided to you. Just enter 47715 as a zip code, or Google for others if you'd like to. You'll then be provided with a list of phone numbers to choose from. Choose any one number and you're done. You'll see the SMS on the site, the moment it receives the SMS. You can even download a mobile version of Pinger."

You will be given a set of US PHONE NUMBERS THAT CAN RECEIVE SMS, YOU WILL USE THAT TO ACTIVATE TELEGRAM OR WEBOGRAM, that will be your PHONE NUMBER, keeping you anonymous.


2. Once you got the PHONE NUMBER NEEDED, CHOOSE a TELEGRAM APP THAT FITS YOU https://telegram.org/

3. Once you have activated your TELEGRAM/WEBOGRAM, please send a message to me so you can be added to our group. DONT MAKE YOUR NUMBER PUBLIC.


We will wait for you we have so much to talk about. As much as possible use the same BTT nick for TELEGRAM

sr. member
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September 17, 2014, 09:57:37 AM

This is first KARMA service I ever used. And I am addicted already, lol

great.. at least now the people who wanted to get rich quick have somewhere to spend their coins instead of dumping them on exchanges lol

Actually I loaded there 1 million, and when I had almost 1.9 million KARM portfolio that dice game denied to accept my high stakes. So I withdrew 1,1 million and keep there the rest to play in future. I am in profit on this:) Owner should load it with some serious money, it is boring to play it for peanuts.

 Cheesy It's good you guys like it, we will encourage any game maker to make a game for karma and place it in our websites. Anything that can create awareness about our coin is a good thing. We are waiting for ptman for his Karma collector too, I got the java file but I don't know how to place it in the page to be playable online.

Lol, I bancrupted it. It does not allow me to bet even 30000 KARM now. If dice game owner wants to make it serious, he will have to buy few hounded million of KARM, it is not worth even to set automatic bot to gamble it like this.
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September 17, 2014, 09:41:48 AM
Whatever sense of community rules and normative behavior that you think I need to follow for some grand fidelity test to prove worthiness have got you where you are today.  I have no interest in perpetuating that sham.

then become part of the community and stop trying to own it.. its really not that difficult is it?


I'm not trying to own anything.  I was offering a centralized home for servers/services and money for continued development.  I was offering to acquire the trademark and hold in a non-profit for the public trust.   I was offering to bring a sense of order and purpose for the coinbase and community.  Structure.

None of that apparently appeals to you.

And I'm not going to "join" your community by mining for a dead coin that is headed down a path that is no longer pro-social (viz dice games?).  I'm not going to buy your coin to prop it up.  I'm not one of you.  I have no desire to be a "fellow-sufferer"

You know, I wonder how far along Karma would be if people like you spent half the time actually doing something productive for this coinbase instead of coming onto this board trying to show how smart you think you are.  You only have so much time on this planet and I doubt your dying breath will "that'll show them." ;-)

Lead or Follow or Get out the way.


I meant it sincerely that a man is a reflection of the company he keeps.  I can tell you that I have absolutely no interest in being associated with people like you Alphi.  You remind me of those kids who's parents praised them for everything they did as part of the "winningest generation" who in all likelihood are still living in their moms basement :p

All offers rescinded until the community figures out what it wants to be when and if it grows up.

-dvd

BTW I noticed you did not provide ANY comment around what advantage your coinbase offers?  What problems does it solve?  Who is your target audience?  Why do they care?   Maybe start with a SWOT (Strength, Weakness, Opportunities and Threats analysis) to help inform your answers...

Here's a link for the lazy : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SWOT_analysis

Thank you for your understanding that any crypto community won`t fit in your nice clean time table. Maybe you will remember what was the first and most important purpose of any crypto coin. Actually bitwho wrote it. As I told you 3 times: this is not the real business world. No one in crypto want to play by such rules. This is a game changer, not a chain to enslave another people to somebody's personal ambitions. Our target audience is everybody. What you clearly don`t understand is that you or anybody else can not run successful coin without having a strong community behind. Your business plans (very vague indeed...) can not compare to the hundreds of karmanians. No matter how slow you are, I am sure you can understand it. It took me 1 day to understand it. I really appreciate your  enlightenment about growing up. Alphi and all other karmanians always knew we must grow.....in numbers.
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