I'm pretty sure you're the one who is confused. The 'messianic' reference was the substance of the personal attack comment, suggesting mussolini et al. What a side show...
this is complete nonsense I did not even refer to mussolini.. quote me if you want but don't make things up.. I never said that you claimed to be a messiah. I just said that your statement that atheists cant be Messianic is completely untrue, the world is full of examples of Messianic atheists. And what did you do? take that as a personal insult LOL...
The fact that you spent more time somehow trying to focus on that versus the substance of my offer is telling enough about what kind of person you are.
Round and round we go.. I told you I am not a karmashares holder so I cannot contemplate your offer so why do you keep trying to ram some offer down my throat?
I'm not sure what your relationship is with the coinbase but I can tell you from an outside perspective that you appear to be so busy thinking of what you want to say next that you clearly have not taken the time to look at let alone reflect on the substance of my offer. Its really off-putting from an outside perspective.
again with the offer.. and again who do you think you are talking to? I am not kosmost I do not speak for him.. nobody is going to entertain your "offer" to buy the Karma trademarks because the only person who can is Kosmost. everyone else realizes that the trademarks for Karma were created by the community under open source license so they cant be sold.. so why should they entertain your offer?
nothing stops you from using the Karma trademarks or the network. In fact I did welcome you to do that but you seem fixated on negotiating a deal with me that I am not in any position to negotiate...
I will repeat in case you missed it.. If you want to use the Karma trademarks and build your own karma based services NOTHING IS STOPPING YOU AND NOBODY WILL STOP YOU the only time you will get any kind of resistance is if you try to take control of the project and start forcing changes on the community that they do not agree with.
This is the open source, consensus model that all crypto coins use.. Karma is no different. use the logo or not.. it's your choice.. I cant stop you and you cant stop me.
Do you speak for your tribe? Does your tribe acknowledge it?
I speak only for myself I do not have a tribe.. should I be taking that as some kind of insult the way you did? lol.. seriously if you don't even know who you are dealing with then why come in to a random thread and make such an offer?
Because while you claim not to be shareholder you do seem to be under the delusion that people placing cryptocurrency on deposit in another computer system ACTUALLY qualifies as an investment in an LLC
that somehow ENTITLES them to dictate how its assets are disposed of -- especially since those deposits were ostensibly refunded. One could argue that they afford no more rights and assigns than a depositor in a bank.
you need to take this up with kosmost he is the one who collected money under those claims I was not a part of it.. I can only tell you what is written in common law which supersedes most other laws. and that is very clearly that if you put something in writing then it is a written contract. what he is doing now could be a breach of contract so I recommend you discuss that with your lawyer BEFORE making the claim that people who invested in Karmashares have no rights..
Whatever sense of community rules and normative behavior that you think I need to follow for some grand fidelity test to prove worthiness have got you where you are today. I have no interest in perpetuating that sham.
then become part of the community and stop trying to own it.. its really not that difficult is it?
In the end if Kosmost owns the USPTO trademark and my lawyer confirms its validity then I will entertain entering into a transaction to acquire it. Which means I will have clear title in the US to use it for crypto currency purposes. You might want to think long and hard about that. Because if its not me, it will certainly be someone else...
Again I have already explained this to you but you seem not to understand. the trademarks were issued along with the source code under MIT license.. you can use it without purchasing it. even if you did purchase it you would not be able force other people to stop using it.. so its pointless for you to keep making circular arguments like "oh Karmashares isn't legitimate so I can buy anything I want from them.." that is a very silly argument indeed and devoid of any logic... if Karmashares is not a legitimate company then its assets and IP are owned by the people who created them i.e. the community.. the Name, Logo and Trademarks of Karma were not created by Kosmost so he had no right to trademark them in his own name if that is what he did.
I have invested in patent stocks for years and let me tell you that you don't need to go to court to have a patent or trademark invalidated.. all you need to do is file an application with the USPTO and prove that the person who registered it was not the creator of the art or invention. which I have already posted the proof of.
if you want to buy a trademark that is as shaky as that then good luck to you. It just goes to show how poor your business acumen really is.
What again, generally, is the ADVANTAGE your coinbase offers people? Please remind everyone here why it is they are spending money on electricity to support this coinbase? Because if in the end they think they are going to somehow get rich off of it, then I would suggest your community is not in this for the right reasons.
I do not feel the need to repeat myself endlessly. All of my posts are for public viewing in the history of this thread and the previous one. my position is well known and if you were here long enough to find out then you would also know my position and thoughts on the subject.
the fact that you seem to want to argue with me and force me to sell you something I do not own clearly demonstrates that you clearly did not do your homework before making the offer.
PS: Say what you will about Bitcoin -- but at least it has "governance" and board that treats it with respect. Karma might as well be the conch shell on an island run by the Lord of the Flies...
please go to a bitcoin board and start claiming that you are going to buy the trademarks to bitcoin from a less than reputable source. lets see if you get the warm and fuzzy reception you expect.
just FYI incase you dont understand what an MIT license is:
The MIT License (MIT)
Copyright (c)
Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy
of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), to deal
in the Software without restriction, including without limitation the rights
to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, and/or sell
copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the Software is
furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions:
The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in
all copies or substantial portions of the Software.
this includes any Names and Artwork used in the software because they are part of the software.
and here is the process for cancelling a trademark
http://www.inta.org/TrademarkBasics/FactSheets/Pages/CancellationofaRegisteredTrademarkFactSheet.aspx
It's good you guys like it, we will encourage any game maker to make a game for karma and place it in our websites. Anything that can create awareness about our coin is a good thing. We are waiting for ptman for his Karma collector too, I got the java file but I don't know how to place it in the page to be playable online.
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