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hero member
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September 16, 2014, 04:19:06 PM


Kindly test drive the site that I prepared. This will be my proposed site as our new face for the public. Please PROOFREAD for spelling, grammatical, technical and factual errors.

Send a message to me when you found one.

Then tell me, should we retain the old site, or should we use this new site?

Please be kind with your judgment.  



http://easteagle13.wix.com/karma




Cool site Wink


EDIT: Is it just me or the title says 'Karma - Digital Monay'



Yah it's one of the errors I found out too.. corrected atm thanks!
sr. member
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We at MultiDice Treat You Like a Winner
September 16, 2014, 04:01:42 PM


Kindly test drive the site that I prepared. This will be my proposed site as our new face for the public. Please PROOFREAD for spelling, grammatical, technical and factual errors.

Send a message to me when you found one.

Then tell me, should we retain the old site, or should we use this new site?

Please be kind with your judgment.  



http://easteagle13.wix.com/karma




Cool site Wink


EDIT: Is it just me or the title says 'Karma - Digital Monay'

hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
September 16, 2014, 03:58:56 PM
Wow, you are both generous! Thanks for your donations, the KJTXThjDznwqqJiv33kPqxrxGa52CWJ4Bm donations is for our Facebook recruitment promotion fund. While this KRuPCSjz5YgatDETwiwERLZffEstmRYbCs is for our developers payment fund (Karma services)

BTW I received you last 10M. You can always check the values on our block explorer. https://chainz.cryptoid.info/karm/#!crypto

Can I move some of my donation for FB recruitment to developer payment fund, say 30mil? Because I think that the most priority we have is a developer issue.

How much did you send for FB before?

50mil Smiley

Very well, I will pass the 30M to the other address as you request. DONE 64f49d793459aae92f2a692073b96a5f715528176405975b62db84741ecbbd81

Just sent 1M to the working fund. thank you for your efforts!

Your first post is about generosity...indeed karma have a hope. Thank you.

hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
September 16, 2014, 03:58:06 PM


Kindly test drive the site that I prepared. This will be my proposed site as our new face for the public. Please PROOFREAD for spelling, grammatical, technical and factual errors.

Send a message to me when you found one.

Then tell me, should we retain the old site, or should we use this new site?

Please be kind with your judgment. 



http://easteagle13.wix.com/karma


legendary
Activity: 1024
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September 16, 2014, 03:42:00 PM

Thelittleduke:

Could you please share with us your intention to help us with taking over the services and trademarks?  what do you intend to do with them? Why the desire to step in? What would that mean to us if you take them over? Do you accept the fact that whiles in your possession they will be still owned by the whole community. Will you have difficulty releasing them back to us after months of you keeping them?

You linkin profile shows you have had tons of experience in management and are a software engineer. Both of these are strong assets that would benefit karma. But we never talked with you and the community knows nothing of your intentions.

We also do not know if you understands our community as well. This community likes to speculate a lot and does little to join those who are trying to help. We do not want to fall into an other category where services are closed due to lack of involvement from karmanians.

i can't blame them as most them think by buying and holding is the help we need on their parts. Which is an insane illusion as they buy and hold for their own interest. This is a general consensus on whole crypto world. We are having difficult time trying to break this mentality. Therefore who ever is willing to take over the services will have to understand it will be a long journey and they will probably get stuck picking up the cost. We will try out best to collect funds to reimburse you but it will not happen easily. So you must understand what you're walking into

Bitwho-

Thank you for engaging in a thoughtful and open dialogue.  I appreciate and welcome the questions and will do my best to answer them.

I've been writing code since just pre Apple ][+ days.  I've written compilers and runtime systems, hold or contributed to several patents, and lately since getting an MBA have been doing a tour of duty through a variety of industries.  I built an ISP from just three analog phone lines (1 x 28.8k upstream and 2 x 14.4k for customers!) up through six acquisitions and one merger consolidating five data centers and taking in services via OC-12.  Including filing and becoming a licensed CLEC to offer VOIP services in MN using a Class-5 Metaswitch.  I still code to this day, preferring Python and a little PHP when necessary.

Fundamentally there is only so much hashpower chasing too many coins.  We are already seeing the very beginning of a consolidation with the AUXPOW work the Dogecoin team put in place to allow it to be merge mined along with Litecoin.  The ASICS have sucked most of the fun out of mining.  The future of crypto is in value-added services.

My interest in Karma is multi-fold.  I like the name and the marketing side of it since day one.  My own personal philosophy centers on Buddhism so the whole "karmic debt / karmic boomerang" thing appeals to me.

I took over the Givecoin when it was on the verge of falling apart as well -- partially because we had made an investment into the coinbase by acquiring shares on the open market Bittrex (we currently hold about 15% of all mined coins to date) -- as the reserve / internal currency for https://doabitofgood.com

There is a natural synergy between the two stated purposes as well as a potential to merge mine the two -- or even combine them in a new better coin.  As of right now we are still listed on Bittrex in a disabled status while we fix our broken KGW and migrate to a Proof of Stake based model which is more compatible we believe with the tenants around doing good.

Our REALLY exciting prospect at Strength in Numbers Foundation is the http://www.idcoins.org -- a coinbase for Identity and Reputation -- Karma could be a good related side chain to act as the stand in for the Reputation component.

As for the community I have a pretty good idea of what motivates them.  I have also watched with great dismay at the lack of sophistication and understanding of basic market mechanics.  Fundamentally Karma is a 'product' and a product needs a consumer base.  You cannot push the product onto the market and expect it to reward you.  You cannot impact the price by throwing more hashpower at it.

As for reimbursement, I don't need any.  I've been mining since 2010 time frame and in fact built the worlds first OCTO-BAMT system.  I have more than enough crypto-assets of my own to leverage and I have grown and sold several businesses.

What I WOULD want of the community is a bunch of "Karma Ambassadors" -- people who do outreach and build the community by getting more people involved.  Introducing our coins to groups who could use it -- create donations to get them involved -- because fundamentally we need to EXPAND the economy and create more velocity in the transactions.

Personally I would like to see the coinbase have some sensical and rational number of coins -- 92 Billion is pretty unbelievable and very few people can get their head wrapped around a number that large.

Also, I would strongly suggest the base move to a more POS based reward system for those that want to hoard coins.

Take marketing number like 10 Billion -- closer to the world population and socialize a "karma for everybody" approach.

It could become the coinbase of reputation -- but I think the current holders have to give up the fantasy that its going to magically increase in value because they want it to.

I never thought Bitcoin was the "be all end all" of crypto currencies but rather a stepping stone to something greater.  I don't think Karma is the end game either.  We can create something that actually captures peoples hearts and minds and remove as much of the taint of "get rich quick" odor so many alts suffer from.  

The coins that are going to survive have to offer something other than a currency.  Bitcoin already holds that designation.  Whatever advantage Litecoin held with a faster confirmation and a "harder algorithm" as all but evaporated.  The only thing X11,X13 et al offers is a way to "re-level the playing field for new entrants" -- nothing is immune from being turned into an ASIC.  What we need are new models of reward like "proof of storage" and others.

I hope that helps to explain my background and interest as well as some of what's top of mind for me and Karma.

Let me know what else you'd like to know?

-dvd
newbie
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September 16, 2014, 03:30:55 PM
Wow, you are both generous! Thanks for your donations, the KJTXThjDznwqqJiv33kPqxrxGa52CWJ4Bm donations is for our Facebook recruitment promotion fund. While this KRuPCSjz5YgatDETwiwERLZffEstmRYbCs is for our developers payment fund (Karma services)

BTW I received you last 10M. You can always check the values on our block explorer. https://chainz.cryptoid.info/karm/#!crypto

Can I move some of my donation for FB recruitment to developer payment fund, say 30mil? Because I think that the most priority we have is a developer issue.

How much did you send for FB before?

50mil Smiley

Very well, I will pass the 30M to the other address as you request. DONE 64f49d793459aae92f2a692073b96a5f715528176405975b62db84741ecbbd81

Just sent 1M to the working fund. thank you for your efforts!
hero member
Activity: 658
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September 16, 2014, 02:31:38 PM
Wow, you are both generous! Thanks for your donations, the KJTXThjDznwqqJiv33kPqxrxGa52CWJ4Bm donations is for our Facebook recruitment promotion fund. While this KRuPCSjz5YgatDETwiwERLZffEstmRYbCs is for our developers payment fund (Karma services)

BTW I received you last 10M. You can always check the values on our block explorer. https://chainz.cryptoid.info/karm/#!crypto

Can I move some of my donation for FB recruitment to developer payment fund, say 30mil? Because I think that the most priority we have is a developer issue.

How much did you send for FB before?

50mil Smiley

Very well, I will pass the 30M to the other address as you request. DONE 64f49d793459aae92f2a692073b96a5f715528176405975b62db84741ecbbd81
member
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September 16, 2014, 02:25:54 PM
Wow, you are both generous! Thanks for your donations, the KJTXThjDznwqqJiv33kPqxrxGa52CWJ4Bm donations is for our Facebook recruitment promotion fund. While this KRuPCSjz5YgatDETwiwERLZffEstmRYbCs is for our developers payment fund (Karma services)

BTW I received you last 10M. You can always check the values on our block explorer. https://chainz.cryptoid.info/karm/#!crypto

Can I move some of my donation for FB recruitment to developer payment fund, say 30mil? Because I think that the most priority we have is a developer issue.

How much did you send for FB before?

50mil Smiley
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
September 16, 2014, 02:07:54 PM
Wow, you are both generous! Thanks for your donations, the KJTXThjDznwqqJiv33kPqxrxGa52CWJ4Bm donations is for our Facebook recruitment promotion fund. While this KRuPCSjz5YgatDETwiwERLZffEstmRYbCs is for our developers payment fund (Karma services)

BTW I received you last 10M. You can always check the values on our block explorer. https://chainz.cryptoid.info/karm/#!crypto

Can I move some of my donation for FB recruitment to developer payment fund, say 30mil? Because I think that the most priority we have is a developer issue.

How much did you send for FB before?
member
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September 16, 2014, 01:57:05 PM
Wow, you are both generous! Thanks for your donations, the KJTXThjDznwqqJiv33kPqxrxGa52CWJ4Bm donations is for our Facebook recruitment promotion fund. While this KRuPCSjz5YgatDETwiwERLZffEstmRYbCs is for our developers payment fund (Karma services)

BTW I received you last 10M. You can always check the values on our block explorer. https://chainz.cryptoid.info/karm/#!crypto

Can I move some of my donation for FB recruitment to developer payment fund, say 30mil? Because I think that the most priority we have is a developer issue.
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
September 16, 2014, 01:53:32 PM
BTW

whoever sent 60M for our karma working fund, thank you very much!

TX ID:  0c3347754ab1f674ed6313df581f9eeaddb0d4c6b888fa4aaad872d255a1ca0e

Current Total Fund is 92,000,099 Karma.

Donation Update : At the average current market price of Karma at 30 litoshis this is about 27.5 LTC's or about 0.30195 BTC (let's hope that karma price will not drop significantly when we have to pay someone.

While our BTC Donations: 0.07280089 BTC

Thank you very much again, please send in your share for the development of other Karma APPS and services to these addresses:

BTC:  12RVXoccgLy8o4GyeUULRmYhaaEL2emvQD  KARMA's WORKING FUND: KRuPCSjz5YgatDETwiwERLZffEstmRYbCs




60 mil is from a friend of mine. He does not use BCT but I told him about donation program and he did it with pleasure and hope. I will send additional 10 mil soon.

edit: is it different program from previous one that I donated? (I sent some Karma to KJTXThjDznwqqJiv33kPqxrxGa52CWJ4Bm) What's the difference?

Wow, you are both generous! Thanks for your donations, the KJTXThjDznwqqJiv33kPqxrxGa52CWJ4Bm donations is for our Facebook recruitment promotion fund. While this KRuPCSjz5YgatDETwiwERLZffEstmRYbCs is for our developers payment fund (Karma services)

BTW I received you last 10M. You can always check the values on our block explorer. https://chainz.cryptoid.info/karm/#!crypto

member
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September 16, 2014, 01:25:14 PM
BTW

whoever sent 60M for our karma working fund, thank you very much!

TX ID:  0c3347754ab1f674ed6313df581f9eeaddb0d4c6b888fa4aaad872d255a1ca0e

Current Total Fund is 92,000,099 Karma.

Donation Update : At the average current market price of Karma at 30 litoshis this is about 27.5 LTC's or about 0.30195 BTC (let's hope that karma price will not drop significantly when we have to pay someone.

While our BTC Donations: 0.07280089 BTC

Thank you very much again, please send in your share for the development of other Karma APPS and services to these addresses:

BTC:  12RVXoccgLy8o4GyeUULRmYhaaEL2emvQD  KARMA's WORKING FUND: KRuPCSjz5YgatDETwiwERLZffEstmRYbCs




60 mil is from a friend of mine. He does not use BCT but I told him about donation program and he did it with pleasure and hope. I will send additional 10 mil soon.

edit: is it different program from previous one that I donated? (I sent some Karma to KJTXThjDznwqqJiv33kPqxrxGa52CWJ4Bm) What's the difference?
hero member
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September 16, 2014, 12:57:16 PM
F**k your holier-than-thou attitude Mr.Kosmost...and get off that high horse..
hero member
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September 16, 2014, 12:45:36 PM
BTW

whoever sent 60M for our karma working fund, thank you very much!

TX ID:  0c3347754ab1f674ed6313df581f9eeaddb0d4c6b888fa4aaad872d255a1ca0e

Current Total Fund is 92,000,099 Karma.

Donation Update : At the average current market price of Karma at 30 litoshis this is about 27.5 LTC's or about 0.30195 BTC (let's hope that karma price will not drop significantly when we have to pay someone.

While our BTC Donations: 0.07280089 BTC

Thank you very much again, please send in your share for the development of other Karma APPS and services to these addresses:

BTC:  12RVXoccgLy8o4GyeUULRmYhaaEL2emvQD  KARMA's WORKING FUND: KRuPCSjz5YgatDETwiwERLZffEstmRYbCs


full member
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September 16, 2014, 12:27:05 PM
I payed ACG million of karma to do the reddit tipbot. that must be mines too, apparently
That is true, you are a very generous donor.

If you need your karma back let me know Smiley
legendary
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September 16, 2014, 12:20:57 PM


Dear community:


There two important events going on that everyone is lacking involvement.

1. Helping us choose or find the best candidate for Karma services that kosmost is awaiting!
http://karmashares.com/forums/index.php/topic,624.0/topicseen.html
http://www.reddit.com/r/KarmaTeam/comments/2g0v6a/karma_services_property_transition_thread_who/
http://www.reddit.com/r/KarmaTeam/comments/2fvv2f/new_karma_team_needed/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/karmacoin/permalink/1556129881272721/

please note that all of the topics were started by kosmost (who is closing them) and Roy (looking to take them over). Aside of private pms i done and Easts effort there is not one else getting involved in the effort to help this transition.

I can argue so much with kosmost about giving karma more time before the right candidate is fund until times up. Please get involved. Spread the word and start finding more people.

So far the only candidate willing to help is Roy and Duke. What should we do ? 

2. Karma api still need to be funded.......



If you want this coin to survive and move forward we have to be able to make quicker decisions. We can start by each and everyone of you taking the time to interview these great people who volunteered to take over the projects. And we can start showing we care about karma by giving fund to projects. Currently the karma API service


you wanted transparency , well there you have it. How much is karma worth to you ?
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1000
September 16, 2014, 11:53:14 AM
The Minnesota non-profit Strength in Numbers Foundation (filing for federal 501.3c status) may be interested in acquiring and hosting all Karma related servers and services as well as funding ongoing development of the coinbase.

Including paying for the transfer of the copyright assuming the current holder can provide a .pdf of the filing approval et a from the USPTO to be reviewed and certified as valid by our corporate attorney.

PM me if interested...

David V Duccini
Executive Director
Strength in Numbers Foundation

Is there a website for Strength in Numbers Foundation?

We will, of course, need to verify legitimacy of entity and interest but this shouldn't be an issue.

Thank you for putting this offer forward. It is sincerely appreciated.

Here's the link to the MN SOS site:

http://mblsportal.sos.state.mn.us/Business/SearchDetails?filingGuid=709acaa6-f929-e411-bfac-001ec94ffe7f

We own "strength-in-numbers.org" and our web developer is busy working on the site atm.

We are currently co-located in the https://doabitofgood.com offices in Saint Paul -- and once we have an agreement in place we plan to acquire the FOR-PROFIT "Vires in Numeris, LLC" as a wholly owned subsidiary that owns the patent on the screen-saver miner.

-dvd


Thelittleduke:

Could you please share with us your intention to help us with taking over the services and trademarks?  what do you intend to do with them? Why the desire to step in? What would that mean to us if you take them over? Do you accept the fact that whiles in your possession they will be still owned by the whole community. Will you have difficulty releasing them back to us after months of you keeping them?

You linkin profile shows you have had tons of experience in management and are a software engineer. Both of these are strong assets that would benefit karma. But we never talked with you and the community knows nothing of your intentions.

We also do not know if you understands our community as well. This community likes to speculate a lot and does little to join those who are trying to help. We do not want to fall into an other category where services are closed due to lack of involvement from karmanians.

i can't blame them as most them think by buying and holding is the help we need on their parts. Which is an insane illusion as they buy and hold for their own interest. This is a general consensus on whole crypto world. We are having difficult time trying to break this mentality. Therefore who ever is willing to take over the services will have to understand it will be a long journey and they will probably get stuck picking up the cost. We will try out best to collect funds to reimburse you but it will not happen easily. So you must understand what you're walking into
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1000
September 16, 2014, 11:06:18 AM
Apologies, but you really don't know what you're talking about in the above post. Perhaps another post will be more accurate.

You are completely mistaken when you write, "...open source logo and the logo itself was produced by community member"

maybe this will jog your memory...



Donations for the logo contest were asked to be sent to a separate address, as seen in this post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5670208

2 donations were sent. 1st donation was 20 karma. 2nd was 50,000 Karma. Worth about 11 cents at the time, enough to almost make a small dent in the $299 cost.

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/karm/address.dws?KBuE7G9Xf2JUgeUKPk6MkPkLNL6zXyznxz.htm

Is there anything else you would like to waste time on?

if i am mistaken , you choose to pay for most of these as our beloved community never came together to collect coin in time. You choose to speed things up and decided to take matter on your own hand. Which was very much appreciated and you ability to "get" things done was rewarded by all of us by looking at you as a leader. We all saw the good intentions you had.

Because you paid for most of the services did not make you the owner of the services. That made you the major donor. If you had stated that if no one pays for it ,you would and that would mean you will own them! You would have had a different reaction from the community instead of welcoming you with applause.

Does that mean those who donated any size of coin also owns part of the logos? those who designed it? All the other services ? I payed for some btcs for the block explorer. Where is my % of that? why did you close it down and keeping it you your self. where is my ownership entitlement?
I payed ACG million of karma to do the reddit tipbot. that must be mines too, apparently

You know everything belongs to the community very well. Not sure why you are stirring up drama situation with all these. 
newbie
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September 16, 2014, 11:05:25 AM
I can accept the Karmacoin.me website, I can maintain it and do necessary improvements.

We only need to get other people for other services from kosmost.

*astonished*

umm.. have we been asleep the past few days?


I can now understand very well HOW HARD IT IS TO WORK WITH YOU!!! POOR PEOPLE!

When they don't react the way you wanted them, you use that to make them feel guilty, and do whatever it is you decided to do! With no sign of cooperation whatsoever!

Everyone PLEASE COOPERATE WITH KOSMOST' TIME TABLE, OR THE WORLD WILL END!!!

I know, I'm sure, you are a sad man in real life. Because you are so demanding!!! FOREVER ALONE!

Now you can't accept the fact that even your virtual world where you were once treated as a "hero"  has left you.



newbie
Activity: 16
Merit: 0
September 16, 2014, 10:56:23 AM
Apologies, but you really don't know what you're talking about in the above post. Perhaps another post will be more accurate.

You are completely mistaken when you write, "...open source logo and the logo itself was produced by community member"

maybe this will jog your memory...



Donations for the logo contest were asked to be sent to a separate address, as seen in this post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5670208

2 donations were sent. 1st donation was 20 karma. 2nd was 50,000 Karma. Worth about 11 cents at the time, enough to almost make a small dent in the $299 cost.

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/karm/address.dws?KBuE7G9Xf2JUgeUKPk6MkPkLNL6zXyznxz.htm

Is there anything else you would like to waste time on?

And because only 50,020 KARMA was donated to your call for donation for a community owned LOGO contest, the resulting LOGO is yours? Right? This is your logic right? So from then on you called this LOGO, "MY LOGO" right? In order to impress to everyone that may join Karma community that anything you paid for (one of them is the LOGO contest), no matter whether you said it is a gift or donation is YOURS!

Please, show how thick you are.

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