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hero member
Activity: 559
Merit: 500
May 13, 2014, 04:04:25 PM
really strange... what are they doing. Are they miners needing to pay electicity? At least they are not following Karma developments....

I honestly can not figure out why people are dumping this coin... there are so many shitcoins out there with absolutely nothing but hot air in the pipeline, with a ton of coins and high prices. And here karma sits, below 1 satoshi, with a ton of great projects in the works, and people dumping it like crazy. Just does not compute!!!

Yeah it is strange. I think any individual miners mining Karma at this point pretty much know what they are mining and intend to keep at least most of their rewards. Those are so small anyway that the big dumps can't come from them, they have too much volume.

I have two theories, both might be wrong. Wink
1. They are multipools dumping to convert to BTC. Karma is currently among the most profitable scrypt coins after all. Has anybody watched the net hashrate closely to see if there's a lot of fluctuations (pools hopping on and off)?
2. It is a whale that is not satisfied yet. Maybe he/they have "only" 2-3 billion coins, but want 5-10. They use their stash to drive/keep price down and accumulate more Karma.

There's also the possibility that a whale wants to exit his position, but usually such a move is preceded by a small pump and/or fake buywalls. I don't see either.

One thing I did notice on Mintpal is that sometimes these dumps seem to happen almost in "retaliation" for people driving price up. Every couple of days someone would start buying up Karm and raise price by a few lit. Shortly after that there was always a pretty big dump that pretty much tore through any walls put up. If nobody buys for a while the dumps are smaller and less frequent. One thing is for sure. Whoever keeps dumping their coins is watching the markets closely...
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
CAT.EX Exchange
May 13, 2014, 03:55:15 PM
volume is increasing. Last chance to get cheap coins...

Someone keeps driving up the price! Please dump and fill my orders at 38 and 37!! Smiley

you are the sucker at 38 I am at 37... guess my order will not be filled...  should I move to 39? Wink
Don't worry, the dumpers have not failed me once in the past week or two. Just place your order 2-4 lit below current price and you WILL get dumped on in a couple of hours. Just be patient. No need to hurry, unless you know something I don't and expect price is about to shoot up unexpectedly. Wink

really strange... what are they doing. Are they miners needing to pay electicity? At least they are not following Karma developments....

I honestly can not figure out why people are dumping this coin... there are so many shitcoins out there with absolutely nothing but hot air in the pipeline, with a ton of coins and high prices. And here karma sits, below 1 satoshi, with a ton of great projects in the works, and people dumping it like crazy. Just does not compute!!!
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1007
May 13, 2014, 03:53:52 PM
volume is increasing. Last chance to get cheap coins...

Someone keeps driving up the price! Please dump and fill my orders at 38 and 37!! Smiley

you are the sucker at 38 I am at 37... guess my order will not be filled...  should I move to 39? Wink
Don't worry, the dumpers have not failed me once in the past week or two. Just place your order 2-4 lit below current price and you WILL get dumped on in a couple of hours. Just be patient. No need to hurry, unless you know something I don't and expect price is about to shoot up unexpectedly. Wink

really strange... what are they doing. Are they miners needing to pay electicity? At least they are not following Karma developments....

A lot of people mine and dump asap so they are less at risk in case a coin fails. They figure a little profit now is better than the possibility of zero profit (and losses instead) in the future.
sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250
May 13, 2014, 03:41:50 PM
volume is increasing. Last chance to get cheap coins...

Someone keeps driving up the price! Please dump and fill my orders at 38 and 37!! Smiley

you are the sucker at 38 I am at 37... guess my order will not be filled...  should I move to 39? Wink
Don't worry, the dumpers have not failed me once in the past week or two. Just place your order 2-4 lit below current price and you WILL get dumped on in a couple of hours. Just be patient. No need to hurry, unless you know something I don't and expect price is about to shoot up unexpectedly. Wink

really strange... what are they doing. Are they miners needing to pay electicity? At least they are not following Karma developments....
hero member
Activity: 559
Merit: 500
May 13, 2014, 03:26:19 PM
volume is increasing. Last chance to get cheap coins...

Someone keeps driving up the price! Please dump and fill my orders at 38 and 37!! Smiley

you are the sucker at 38 I am at 37... guess my order will not be filled...  should I move to 39? Wink
Don't worry, the dumpers have not failed me once in the past week or two. Just place your order 2-4 lit below current price and you WILL get dumped on in a couple of hours. Just be patient. No need to hurry, unless you know something I don't and expect price is about to shoot up unexpectedly. Wink
bcd
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 250
May 13, 2014, 03:18:42 PM
Day by day Karma community is growing and getting stronger. I am holding and continue mining Karma. I expect Karma to rise atleast 50 satoshi in few weeks. Investment I can always trust.
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 504
May 13, 2014, 03:02:00 PM
volume is increasing. Last chance to get cheap coins...

Someone keeps driving up the price! Please dump and fill my orders at 38 and 37!! Smiley

you are the sucker at 38 I am at 37... guess my order will not be filled...  should I move to 39? Wink

I took mine off and moved it down a few Lits Cheesy
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 504
May 13, 2014, 03:01:11 PM

Someone keeps driving up the price! Please dump and fill my orders at 38 and 37!! Smiley

The worldcup page seems to be down for some time and you can put those orders in on cryptsy, they are still selling at 37 and 38 Smiley

Thanks, we are working on it right now.   trying to make it load faster by removing the blockchain info for each country and only keeping the total prize pool. 
sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250
May 13, 2014, 02:33:40 PM
volume is increasing. Last chance to get cheap coins...

Someone keeps driving up the price! Please dump and fill my orders at 38 and 37!! Smiley

you are the sucker at 38 I am at 37... guess my order will not be filled...  should I move to 39? Wink
legendary
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1000
May 13, 2014, 02:18:28 PM
ShawnLeary please don't make POS .... don't fuck up karma
pac
newbie
Activity: 27
Merit: 0
May 13, 2014, 02:14:22 PM

Someone keeps driving up the price! Please dump and fill my orders at 38 and 37!! Smiley

The worldcup page seems to be down for some time and you can put those orders in on cryptsy, they are still selling at 37 and 38 Smiley
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 504
May 13, 2014, 01:38:21 PM
volume is increasing. Last chance to get cheap coins...

Someone keeps driving up the price! Please dump and fill my orders at 38 and 37!! Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250
May 13, 2014, 01:16:15 PM
volume is increasing. Last chance to get cheap coins...
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 504
May 13, 2014, 12:34:04 PM
How is this worldcup going on ?


After all for charity !

Btw: nice logo.


Going good! We were up over 20M KARMs so far!
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 504
May 13, 2014, 12:31:24 PM
seriously guys and gals, there are plenty of PoS pure coins out there, go have at it.  NXT is an excellent one. 

We are a PoW LiteCoin clone.  it is a proven system.  I think merge mining would be a safer move if one is even warranted.

Now go do something productive with your time rather than posting non-sensible mumbo-jumbo economics gibberish.  There is an entire stock equities market based on PoS, so plenty of options out there for everyone, AAPL, GOOGL, TWTR.  The thinkorswim platform from TD Ameritrade is what I recommend. Go have at it.

If you actually want to do something productive and help the price go up the normal way, please message me or kosmost or any of the team and we will put you to work. 
sr. member
Activity: 429
Merit: 250
May 13, 2014, 12:11:28 PM
Some new users meet syncing problem with our wallet.

If you are having trouble connecting to peers, you want to update your peers.dat file.

Before any change, don't forget to make a backup of your wallet.dat in a secure place.

>Download the updated peers.dat file here :
http://karmacoin.me/wallets/peers.dat

>Close your Karma wallet.

>Go on ''C:\Users******\AppData\Roaming\Karma

>Paste and erase your old peers.dat with the new one.

***NEVER DELETE YOUR WALLET.DAT FILE OR YOU WILL LOOSE YOUR COINS !

Launch your Karma wallet again, wait few minutes : it syncs !
sr. member
Activity: 429
Merit: 250
May 13, 2014, 10:49:25 AM
Sure if we can raise the full amount we could be the major, or the only sponsor of the car !


For the suggested goal of $5000 - $7000, would we get a secure a full carwrap pretty much exclusive to only Karma "advertisements" or we would still share them with other sponsors?

An EXCELLENT project idea here. Love it.

KARMA FOR THE WIN!!

So, for people who forgot that there are other things in world than PoS  ( Roll Eyes ) I am proud to announce you something big.

http://www.reddit.com/r/KarmaTeam/comments/25g5s1/karma_will_participate_to_next_ecofriendly_car/

What if we participate to the 2015 edition of ''4l Trophy''?


What is it? http://www.4ltrophy.com/cat/presentation-en?lang=en

Firstly, some numbers. During the 2014 event, the 15th Raid 4L Trophy, 2648 participants in 1,324 teams, from 1,460 colleges, left the two departure villages of Futuroscope in Poitiers and Saint-Jean de Luz, aboard their mythical 4L. The final destination was Marrakesh, a journey of 10 days and almost 6,000 kilometers on the roads of France, Spain and the pistes of Morocco. These elements make the Raid 4L Trophy the biggest European student car rally.
But the Raid 4L Trophy is more than just numbers on a page, the Raid 4L Trophy is a true humanitarian and sporting adventure for students between 18 and 28 years old. The competition is based on orientation not speed. In this competition success is making it to the finish line. In getting there participants discover the real meaning of helping one another. Avoiding the pitfalls of wadis and the sand which many people get stuck in. Providing breakdown support to others with mechanical problems. In helping one another, the competitors faces show the satisfaction of a job well done and pride in having given everything for themselves and for others.

In addition to their lust for wide open spaces, the teams transport classroom materials in their 4Ls to be given to the poorest children in Morocco. Solidarity is deeply ingrained in the DNA of the 4L Trophy, solidarity towards local inhabitants is not an empty phrase. This is shown by the emotion experienced each year by participants during the ceremony to handover donations organised in partnership with Enfants du Désert, this is one of the high points of the adventure.
I already have the car, an old 1989 Renault 4L. Two friends of mine will lead the driving and mechanical part : these two students will run the race from France to Morocco. They will send us live go pro videos especially for our community on a live website.

///What would be OUR goal?

Our goal is building a beautiful KARMA car !
With so much media exposure in Europe (mainstream TV, newspaper, websites...) we have to create a KARMA sponsored car : full blue paint and big KARMA logo stickers with website links. This car will run on more than 6000 km across France, Spain and Morocco.
For participating to this trophy, building the car and provide a real good paint, we need funds. Actually my student friends are building a non profit organisation for this event, they will be legally able to receive funds from sponsors and they will accept KARM.

I will lead this project, we will provide a nice web page for our KARMA car and we will do a big fundraising for our KARMA Trophy Team !
We need to raise between 5000 and 7000$ in the next 8 months. What are you thoughts ?

LETS DO IT ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM1dQk9XwBM
More details later.
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
May 13, 2014, 10:25:49 AM
How is this worldcup going on ?


After all for charity !

Btw: nice logo.
full member
Activity: 184
Merit: 100
May 13, 2014, 10:19:41 AM
[snip]
8. I don't have an issue with a company giving me some of its shares for free. However, Karma LLC should not piggy back on Karma's announcement that it might be going to PoS. The entities should be kept as separate as possible to prevent the value of Karma being pegged against a start-up company.

Sorry, I don't understand. Would you care to explain?

The way Karma price could be pegged against the Karmashares LLC price is you are making a direct way to value something (Karma) which otherwise has no value. Obviously this doesn't matter too much anyways if you always allow people to continue to invest in Karmashares LLC with Karma. I'm sure you know my position on Karmashares LLC vs Karma.

Also, I think we should take this transition opportunity to review everything about the coin, including but not limited to transaction fees, block times and everything that can be changed about a coin. Obviously massive changes like this should only ever be done once, so everything should be reviewed now.

Because I made so many points in my original post, I'll expand on the most important three:
Interest being too high.
We have to remember that Karma is primarily a currency.
1. I consider the interest to be similar to inflation, only the holders purchasing power remains the same (all other things being equal). For anyone not holding the currency it would appear as if the inflation rate is over 6%. The inflation rate should be more in line with developed economies currencies at around 1.5-2.5% per annum. People perceive a currency with a high level of inflation as not stable because it doesn't hold value.

Of course I'm taking an extremely long term view here (decades) because the main price driver in all crytocuncies for at least the next ten years will be speculation because Karma has no value unless people give it one, which is also true about fiat currencies. $100 isn't worth anything unless I can swap it with somebody for something. It will always be this way for crpytocurrencies because there is no centralised government increasing and decreasing the flow of the currency to keep it stable. However over time as more people assign a value to cryptocurrencies the more stable they will become against fiat currencies, good and services. At this time speculation will decrease because other investments will have higher possible returns, speculators will over time sell out to people who are using the coin as a currency.

2. If the interest rate is too high not enough Karma will be kept on exchanges. This may not sound like an issue for speculators because it means it is far more likely the currency will increase in value (less to buy on the sell side to push up the price) however it will also make the currency less stable...less like a currency.

3. If the interest rate is too high it may encourage bad practices by exchanges. Exchanges might keep funds in less secure wallets to try to take advantage of the interest.

The decision shouldn't be based on price.
It just doesn't look good if the decision is being made on price. The decision should be made based on what will be the best for Karma in decades to come. Ok, I just wanted to say this again not explain it.

There should be no coin cap.
If inflation works up to the "market cap" it should work beyond it. There is no need to make a two stage process three stages. Either go PoS with no inflation or go PoS and keep inflation. I believe PoS and keep inflation is better because it is more realistic compared to fiat currencies. However this point only applies if the interest is below 3%. Also if the inflation is removed the network may lose some of its security (depending on how exactly the PoS works).

The main advantages of PoS are:
1. The network is more secure;
2. The network costs far less to run (I'd call "saving the planet" good karma); and
3. It encourages people to take their Karma off exchanges unless they plan on selling it in the near future. There is over 2 billion Karma on the market of a single exchange at the moment, probably billions more not on the market just sitting in the exchanges accounts. I don't like concentrations of Karma because it won't take much in the wrong hands to crash its price.

The disadvantages of going to PoS are:
1. It could be completely screwed up, as per my limited understanding of the transition process, moving to PoS would be almost like 51% attacking Karma ourselves. We are doubling the amount of Karma and saying half of it is worthless now because these guys say so.
2. People with mining rigs that don't want to buy coins can no longer mine for them. People can mine other coins and then purchase Karma however some people will be unwilling to take this extra step. Mining is becoming harder and harder for individuals so I think this point will become less valid over time.

I think the advantages are greater than the disadvantages. I'm willing to risk losing the value of a few Karma now if things go wrong to see Karma survive long into the future.

Chargin.
sr. member
Activity: 257
Merit: 250
May 13, 2014, 10:11:31 AM
For the suggested goal of $5000 - $7000, would we get a secure a full carwrap pretty much exclusive to only Karma "advertisements" or we would still share them with other sponsors?

An EXCELLENT project idea here. Love it.

KARMA FOR THE WIN!!

So, for people who forgot that there are other things in world than PoS  ( Roll Eyes ) I am proud to announce you something big.

http://www.reddit.com/r/KarmaTeam/comments/25g5s1/karma_will_participate_to_next_ecofriendly_car/

We are going to participate to the 2015 edition of ''4l Trophy''.


What is it? http://www.4ltrophy.com/cat/presentation-en?lang=en

Firstly, some numbers. During the 2014 event, the 15th Raid 4L Trophy, 2648 participants in 1,324 teams, from 1,460 colleges, left the two departure villages of Futuroscope in Poitiers and Saint-Jean de Luz, aboard their mythical 4L. The final destination was Marrakesh, a journey of 10 days and almost 6,000 kilometers on the roads of France, Spain and the pistes of Morocco. These elements make the Raid 4L Trophy the biggest European student car rally.
But the Raid 4L Trophy is more than just numbers on a page, the Raid 4L Trophy is a true humanitarian and sporting adventure for students between 18 and 28 years old. The competition is based on orientation not speed. In this competition success is making it to the finish line. In getting there participants discover the real meaning of helping one another. Avoiding the pitfalls of wadis and the sand which many people get stuck in. Providing breakdown support to others with mechanical problems. In helping one another, the competitors faces show the satisfaction of a job well done and pride in having given everything for themselves and for others.

In addition to their lust for wide open spaces, the teams transport classroom materials in their 4Ls to be given to the poorest children in Morocco. Solidarity is deeply ingrained in the DNA of the 4L Trophy, solidarity towards local inhabitants is not an empty phrase. This is shown by the emotion experienced each year by participants during the ceremony to handover donations organised in partnership with Enfants du Désert, this is one of the high points of the adventure.
I already have the car, an old 1989 Renault 4L. Two friends of mine will lead the driving and mechanical part : these two students will run the race from France to Morocco. They will send us live go pro videos especially for our community on a live website.

///What is OUR goal?

Our goal is building a beautiful KARMA car !
With so much media exposure in Europe (mainstream TV, newspaper, websites...) we have to create a KARMA sponsored car : full blue paint and big KARMA logo stickers with website links. This car will run on more than 6000 km across France, Spain and Morocco.
For participating to this trophy, building the car and provide a real good paint, we need funds. Actually my student friends are building a non profit organisation for this event, they will be legally able to receive funds from sponsors and they will accept KARM.

I will lead this project, we will provide a nice web page for our KARMA car and we will do a big fundraising for our KARMA Trophy Team !
We need to raise between 5000 and 7000$ in the next 8 months. It could be our next KARMAFUND.ME act, what are you thoughts ?

LETS DO IT !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM1dQk9XwBM
More details later.
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