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Topic: [ANN][MZC][SHA-256] MAZACOIN *First Sovereign Currency* ANDROID WALLET AVAIL.!! - page 141. (Read 278416 times)

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The president just is not aware of it being adopted by the Tribal elders. This can be a bit complicated since the leadership involved here is two separate bodies. The elders and the "Government". I posted something a bit earlier about all of this if you look back.

Tribal Elders being those listed here?: http://www.oglalalakotanation.org/oln/-Tribal_Council.html
Can you find a statement from them that they have adopted MazaCoin as a currency?

Like I said you are either ignoring what I'm saying or not understanding it. So you and your fellow scam believers have their opinions and we have ours. As someone else stated what's the point? Your beating a dead horse over an article written by some guy that doesn't have the greatest track record of being traditional and believing in Native culture. Over a man that has spent many years defending and helping Native Americans and their cultures. To me their is no argument to be had as the facts are clear as day.

Egotistical ex-con, or selfless Native activist. Track records speak for themselves..

So you are either completely illogical, completely moronic, or purposefully trying to throw a monkey wrench in Maza coin. Either way I'm not going to argue with you anymore.
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The Lakota nation are the descendents of Chief Crazy horse the native leader that took out General Custard in the infamous Custards last stand. The feds are likely still worried that they hold a grudge and are afraid of them.

General George Armstrong Custard, whipped at the the Battle of the Little Cream Horn.  The Lakota creamed him, and milked it for all it was worth.  No sugar-coating that loss, Custard got his just deserts.

What a macaroon.



I see what you did there Cheesy
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"I think those around him are scammers" ->

For the time beeing this cannot be proven true or false. I believe we will have an answer in the near future for all the unanswered questions. Think of a scenario where the tribal chieftains do accept Maza as their official currency. Then it will be too late buy cheap Maza coins, they will be 1$ each.

- Tomi

ps. I do agree the currency should not have been promoted as official, yet atleast. For what reason this was done, I do not know.

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You are either ignoring, or completely missing my point. Regardless of his bio he has a white man name and uses his white man name. He is the voice of Government but by no means the voice of the Lakota nation. I don't know anything about his history but that's just my Opinion. I also thoroughly enjoy how you ignored everything else and just jumped to the one thing you thought you could best disprove. Classic Orwellian tactic!!  Roll Eyes Sorry to tell you your logic is unsound in this situation and as has been brought up many times why the need to try and convince us it's a scam? WHy are you spending so much time and effort on it? Forgive me if I don't believe your concerned for us.

I'm not sure what your point was, except that you are judging someone purely on their name.
I don't think Payu is a scammer. I think he honestly hopes this coin will help Native Americans.
I think those around him are scammers. I think (and it is clear to anyone) that a variety of false claims have been made about this coin.
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The president just is not aware of it being adopted by the Tribal elders. This can be a bit complicated since the leadership involved here is two separate bodies. The elders and the "Government". I posted something a bit earlier about all of this if you look back.

Tribal Elders being those listed here?: http://www.oglalalakotanation.org/oln/-Tribal_Council.html
Can you find a statement from them that they have adopted MazaCoin as a currency?
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The Lakota nation are the descendents of Chief Crazy horse the native leader that took out General Custard in the infamous Custards last stand. The feds are likely still worried that they hold a grudge and are afraid of them.

General George Armstrong Custard, whipped at the the Battle of the Little Cream Horn.  The Lakota creamed him, and milked it for all it was worth.  No sugar-coating that loss, Custard got his just deserts.

What a macaroon.

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yes this is old news... it is what we are discussing now already

But why still raking this discussion again? We know now,  what we want to hear exactly? That mazacoin is a scam? Many people here have mazacoin possession, are not going to sell them and believe in it. What does this discussion aims. Our persuade the mazacoin what we in possession to sell? let's make something better. This discussion makes it leads to nothing.
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guys i found native newspaper front page it cant be read clearly but there is    expression 

"council and president taken by suprise"

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=811912785488740&set=a.368022959877727.110049.328288027184554&type=1&theater

You can see the full page, and read the text of the story, here: http://www.nsweekly.com/

its not clear if u read pls tell me why council and president suprised?

The council is not surprised nor is the president about Maza coin. The president just is not aware of it being adopted by the Tribal elders. This can be a bit complicated since the leadership involved here is two separate bodies. The elders and the "Government". I posted something a bit earlier about all of this if you look back.
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guys i found native newspaper front page it cant be read clearly but there is    expression 
"council and president taken by suprise"
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=811912785488740&set=a.368022959877727.110049.328288027184554&type=1&theater
You can see the full page, and read the text of the story, here: http://www.nsweekly.com/
its not clear if u read pls tell me why council and president suprised?

Because someone has announced that their tribe has adopted a new official currency, and they know nothing about it.
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Sorry but I can't read all the thread. Any statement regarding free lakota bank so far?
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guys i found native newspaper front page it cant be read clearly but there is    expression 

"council and president taken by suprise"

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=811912785488740&set=a.368022959877727.110049.328288027184554&type=1&theater

You can see the full page, and read the text of the story, here: http://www.nsweekly.com/

its not clear if u read pls tell me why council and president suprised?
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How do you know ? may I ask... or ar you just repeating "facts"that you have heard?

I think Russell Means would have had something to say about the "two tribe" as you call it,  situation being just spin.... but then I am sure you know already all about that.

Until there is further clarification you are as in the dark a anyone else ........... admit it!

I've enumerated the 7 facts I'm claiming below.
Which do you dispute?
If none, then you must agree that the claim that MazaCoin is working with a different Ogala govenment than that recognised by the government is false?

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[1] The MazaCoin site (http://www.mazacoin.org/) has a link to the Traditional Lakota Nation (http://www.oglalalakotanation.org/oln/Home.html).
Go to that webpage, click Government, click Executive Committee.
[2]You will see that the President is Bryan Brewer, [3]the same one who has publicly said that the tribe has not adopted MazaCoin as an official currency.

Go to the South Dakota Department of Tribal Relations page for the Ogala: http://www.sdtribalrelations.com/oglala.aspx
[4]Scroll down to Current President. You will see that is it Bryan Brewer.
[5]Check the 'View the Oglala Sioux Tribe's website' link. You will see it takes you to the same ogalalakotanation.org page.

[6]The entity that MazaCoin say that they are working with is the same entity listed on the government web page as being the tribal government, and [7]that entity has denied adopting MazaCoin as an official currency.



Hi - the How do you know? in bold was directed to the spin comment in bold in your orignial post


I think Russell Means would have had something to say about the "two tribe" as you call it,  situation being just spin.... but then I am sure you know already all about that.

Until there is further clarification you are as in the dark a anyone else ........... admit it!

Yes I have seen Bryan Brewers comments... and I have taken them into account.

I also believe there is a lot more going on here than is on the direct surface...

There is a difference between the traditional leadership and the government sanctioned or what you might call the white mans unofficially official tribal government... I mean does an "official federal tribal government" at this point make sense to you?

Also brewer did comment about his little visit from the FBI ... I believe that is not indispute - I wonder how that conversation went down and what subsequent covnersations were had amongst the Lakota.

Also there is more going on there at the moment than just Mazacoin... infact Mazacoin is not ontop of Brewers list of things to be invloved with..
I think pipelines and ganja fields and budgets are more his thing right now.

There will be more on this in the future... could the coin have been marketed better, yes was it misleading.. maybe... maybe not... lets wait and see
what comes from all of this.

Payu is known in the community for years, and is being very public about his role and about the coin, he is not exactly sneeking around...
so it remains to be seen who said what to who and what has been agreed and not....and where it will lead.

You know as much as we do in that Brewer made the comments he made, in his capacity of the role he is in.. no more no less... and YES they have a meaning... but NO it may not be the be all and end all of it- if it is for you then that is fine, I have more patience, and in light of other factors around this project, and around other goings on in the area and in recent(ish) history think there is more to come on the legal situtaion.


sidenote
Those federal handouts sound great- but how much longer can the fed hand out anything to anyone you may ask?  the country is diving down a blackhole of debt that nothing can save it from... those handouts are not long for this world anyway.





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No need to get snippy.

You are right, reading my post back it was rude, and I apologise.
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