Actually his basic idea of doing a fix fee, and making it that 'high' was to get higher income to miners.
As the whole basic plan was:
- Shorter time for blocks
- lower increase in difficulty
- way higher difficulty drop than raise
- additional higher income through the fees (which bring way more once there are enough transactions)
This all was about being able to mine faster, get the coins faster and reach the coin max faster - which btw was lower so each mined coin would in the end be more worth.
What he then later realised that just by mining you don't make money, you NEED someone who is willing to buy them, cause either speculation or being able to use them for someting.
This was when he - at least he said he did - contacted ruxum and mtgox. Cause just by producing something you don't make money. And i realy hoped - after he realized that - that this will become some project with possibly perspectives for the future.
But in the end everyone should realize that all this was born out of the wish to maximize potential income through mining. All this "improvements" where miner focused!
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Y'all probably want this:
https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/491
However, I don't think you can fix all the problems that a fixed transaction fee cause; the real problem is that basic economics says that you need to let the price of a scare resource change, ideally in a market, to match the underlying real costs.
(bitcoin's fee structure isn't right either, and fixing it to create a market between miners and clients is high on the TODO list)
https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/491
However, I don't think you can fix all the problems that a fixed transaction fee cause; the real problem is that basic economics says that you need to let the price of a scare resource change, ideally in a market, to match the underlying real costs.
(bitcoin's fee structure isn't right either, and fixing it to create a market between miners and clients is high on the TODO list)
I'd re-enable handling orphan blocks (add a size limit on the orphan blocks list if you are afraid of orphan floods), or the SC network will soon be quite dead (it's already starting to fork ...).
Anyone want to offer a bounty to fix this?
If we actually fix things in the open source client we might end up with something better than coinhunters broken BitCoin.
I'd offer a bounty myself but I sent my last .50BTC to the spaghetti monster guy when he created the open source fork.
Are there any binaries yet?
I'd re-enable handling orphan blocks (add a size limit on the orphan blocks list if you are afraid of orphan floods), or the SC network will soon be quite dead (it's already starting to fork ...).
I answered that just before his post, you didn't see it or it doesn't answer your question?
That's doable but I want to be sure there's a majority of people wanting this change
So in a week I can post a poll and see the results
So in a week I can post a poll and see the results
ok, i missed that.
thank you very much for your work!
looking forward to see
(btw. the phrase "That's doable but I want to be sure there's a majority of people wanting this change" just gave me the feeling you are the right person for this job!)
jackjack has expressed no desire to do this,
Or ignore the part where he said he would assist and it be put to a vote.
Thanks jackjack btw.
No need to vote, no need to fork.
jackjack has helpfully provided an open source version of a closed source client. Thankyou.
If jackjack wants to make an alternative blockchain, he is welcome to do so. I'm sure he would do it well & I'd be interested to see it.
jackjack has expressed no desire to do this, and certainly no desire to try to resurrect SolidCoin.
Can we just thank him for his client & let him go back to all the useful things he already does ?
If someone really wants to fork SolidCoin, that is their choice.
jackjack has helpfully provided an open source version of a closed source client. Thankyou.
If jackjack wants to make an alternative blockchain, he is welcome to do so. I'm sure he would do it well & I'd be interested to see it.
jackjack has expressed no desire to do this, and certainly no desire to try to resurrect SolidCoin.
Can we just thank him for his client & let him go back to all the useful things he already does ?
If someone really wants to fork SolidCoin, that is their choice.
Looking forward to it. 
I answered that just before his post, you didn't see it or it doesn't answer your question?
That's doable but I want to be sure there's a majority of people wanting this change
So in a week I can post a poll and see the results
So in a week I can post a poll and see the results
hi jackjack
i like your fork very much - and i think its a good thing that you did not fork the blockchain.
BUT: CoinHunter,RealSolid and OldMiner are really bad for bitcoin (and for solidcoin in the longterm); as they are continuing to tell anybody how bad bitcoin is (they just dont realize that people will start thinking ALL cryptocurrencies are bad).
so my idea: is it feasable to fork the blockchain in a future block?
i am pretty sure most people will use your fork.
if you dont have the ressources to manage this fork properly i am sure you'll find many people in this forum (including me) which would like to assist you.
i like your fork very much - and i think its a good thing that you did not fork the blockchain.
BUT: CoinHunter,RealSolid and OldMiner are really bad for bitcoin (and for solidcoin in the longterm); as they are continuing to tell anybody how bad bitcoin is (they just dont realize that people will start thinking ALL cryptocurrencies are bad).
so my idea: is it feasable to fork the blockchain in a future block?
i am pretty sure most people will use your fork.
if you dont have the ressources to manage this fork properly i am sure you'll find many people in this forum (including me) which would like to assist you.
Lets vote!
This thread is about the only open-source solidcoin client
Please complain else where
Please complain else where
you are right. apologize.
what do you think about a blockchain fork in a future block?
Now let's put blame where blame is due, when solidcoin was started Coinhunter/RealSolid issued a much more "agreeable" rhetoric where both coins could coexist side by side, he did mention there were problems that needed fixed so he took it upon himself to move in the right direction and start making those fixes.
ok, but the start time has finished and now we have a different situation
From Day 1 he got trolled viciously on a daily basis by various members around here, well it's probably not the best reaction but it sours one's mood I would imagine, so unfortunately Coinhunter/RealSolid tried to educate the tard muffins and they didn't like it and the trolling got stronger until another representative of the Bitcoin crew decided to undertake a Malicious attack on the solidcoin network.
thats just no (completly) true.
yes he got trolled by ArtForz (and i think this was a very stupid thing) but why do you think ArtForz is a representative of bitcoin?
gavin stated clearly that he things this guy is smart; NOTHING more. i do consider most hackers/crackers as smart - and i would take advice from them - that does not mean they are representing me in any way!
So in conjunction in reprimanding Coinhunters behavior here why don't you get realistic and reprimand the rest of the asshats around here that sit around their parents basements with their thumbs up their asses conceiving of new ways to treat people like shit while watching gay porn clips on the internet?
i think coinhunter (and his others names) should just stop to care.
its their job (btw it WAS their job) to make a currency.
a currency is build on trust.
i dont trust anybody who just sits their and cries "whooo you are so bad; you attacked my coins whaa".
come on....just take it as a man and concentrate on make your coins better. but dont forget who made it possible for solidcoin to start.
This thread is about the only open-source solidcoin client
Please complain else where
Please complain else where
That's doable but I want to be sure there's a majority of people wanting this change
So in a week I can post a poll and see the results
So in a week I can post a poll and see the results
hi jackjack
i like your fork very much - and i think its a good thing that you did not fork the blockchain.
BUT: CoinHunter,RealSolid and OldMiner are really bad for bitcoin (and for solidcoin in the longterm); as they are continuing to tell anybody how bad bitcoin is (they just dont realize that people will start thinking ALL cryptocurrencies are bad).
so my idea: is it feasable to fork the blockchain in a future block?
i am pretty sure most people will use your fork.
if you dont have the ressources to manage this fork properly i am sure you'll find many people in this forum (including me) which would like to assist you.
i like your fork very much - and i think its a good thing that you did not fork the blockchain.
BUT: CoinHunter,RealSolid and OldMiner are really bad for bitcoin (and for solidcoin in the longterm); as they are continuing to tell anybody how bad bitcoin is (they just dont realize that people will start thinking ALL cryptocurrencies are bad).
so my idea: is it feasable to fork the blockchain in a future block?
i am pretty sure most people will use your fork.
if you dont have the ressources to manage this fork properly i am sure you'll find many people in this forum (including me) which would like to assist you.
I'll try it in a few hours
I never compiled anything on windows though so don't wait for it too hardly
Also if anyone wants to contribute just send me pull requests on github
I never compiled anything on windows though so don't wait for it too hardly
Also if anyone wants to contribute just send me pull requests on github
When will windows compiled binary client will be released?
thanks for your help wolftaur
By looking into the make-unix.txt and comparing it with the installed .deb packages i knoticed i had missing a lot of packages.
It now starts compiling - i think thats what it does,
but i still get some errors.
most of them according to
../obj/nogui/net.o net.cpp
like: net.cpp:1115: error: 'freeUPNPDevlist' had was not declared in this scope
Are you sure you use "USE_UPNP= "?By looking into the make-unix.txt and comparing it with the installed .deb packages i knoticed i had missing a lot of packages.
It now starts compiling - i think thats what it does,
but i still get some errors.
most of them according to
../obj/nogui/net.o net.cpp
like: net.cpp:1115: error: 'freeUPNPDevlist' had was not declared in this scope
Making a new fork would just make people dislike open source.
It will fork anyway if the majority choose to use this client . Just like democracy you dont get a say if 51% imposes their will.
It will fork anyway if the majority choose to use this client . Just like democracy you dont get a say if 51% imposes their will.
Only CoinHunter dislikes open source. The rest of us here like it just fine.
Why, are you him?
No. I merely want to point out that if the majority use this client it doesnt matter what I or CH thinks if you have the support of more than 51% of the miners.
Ideally you should make another chain instead of trying to fork this one.
Its purely democracy.
If I understand it correctly and please correct me if I am wrong, this is NOT a new blockchain but a real open source (under MIT licence) version off RealSolid's solidcoin client.
You understood correctly
thanks for your help wolftaur
By looking into the make-unix.txt and comparing it with the installed .deb packages i knoticed i had missing a lot of packages.
It now starts compiling - i think thats what it does,
but i still get some errors.
most of them according to
../obj/nogui/net.o net.cpp
like: net.cpp:1115: error: 'freeUPNPDevlist' had was not declared in this scope
By looking into the make-unix.txt and comparing it with the installed .deb packages i knoticed i had missing a lot of packages.
It now starts compiling - i think thats what it does,
but i still get some errors.
most of them according to
../obj/nogui/net.o net.cpp
like: net.cpp:1115: error: 'freeUPNPDevlist' had was not declared in this scope
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