Topic: [ANN][PIR] ---- PirateCoin | Exchange listed ---- Arrr! - page 7. (Read 47930 times)

At this point I am for anything that can get this coin going.
Creating a whole new coin with a new block chain is stupid. It basically says to everyone that has mined it and got it on allcrypt and worked on things "screw you." I know it doesnt seem like much but a handful of people have mined and worked on this project to get it at least trading and known by a few.
So rebrand, rename, market, do whatever. But if the blockchain is being abandoned and a whole new coin is going to launch from block 0 then I'm out.

So maybe you should also vote for renaming it to booty coin.
I think hank knows what he is doing plus he's a guy you can work with and find solutions. I believe something could be worked out for the benefit of all.

Or maybe asking to rename or not was the wrong question to ask?
(Every time I think about this coin I see Jim Carrey before my inner eye: "It's over let it go!" ^^ )

me too id be willing to giveup my coins for atleast half decent projects if theres any

The original dev said he'd hand the project over to the pirate party and after that never was heard of again.
But the community wanted to continue and not give the name to the pirate party, so there is not really a dev.

The situation is a little bit confusing at the moment.

I personally think the coin should be relaunched by the pirate party international movement. (Even though I myself have got a decent amount of pirate coins that i would be willing to give up)

Where is the dev? First page have not coin picture and wallet still PTC. Why so long? It should be PIR or ARR, as you like. Just correct it!

Website www.arrcoin.com, twitter, and FB updated..

buying monster legends gem with piratecoin 

I for one don't want a sexual connotation tied to the coin. I say keep it at piratecoin.
I know that this coin has a lot more priorities (like regrouping and deciding on a new direction), but it doesn't hurt to keep voting for us on mintpal @ https://www.mintpal.com/voting

Sorry dude, clipart is not going to cut it... pun intended.

http://www.clker.com/clipart-15550.html

It's the very reason there's no pirate image on page 1 of this thread.

I like it!

I like what you are saying and you seem to be more competent in terms of getting us somewhere than anyone else here. However, it sounds as though you want to create a whole new coin... As in, from block 0 with nothing. Is that what you are saying? Otherwise, how could we go from total of 52,000,000 coins to 69B, etc...?

New logo or not please ?

Hey there... that's the same bootycoin that's being proposed here so no worries about the collision. :-)

Howdy! My background is 18 years of developing software and startups... C, Java, Ruby, Javascript, etc. I'm new to bitcoin but not new to the entire libertarian point of view and the entire notion of how fiat currency is a scam, etc. I'm a reformed gold bug of sorts. I still think that having a place to store your hard earned money should exist but alas, in this world of financial alchemy there's not a single market left that is left to true price discovery but I digress....

I've been looking at bitcoin and alt coins more seriously since December after some guys I know sold their bitcoin related company and after getting to talking it seemed that the bitcoin community held some of the same beliefs as I have. For short hand I call it the zero hedge mentality (zerohedge.com)

So to answer your question directly, no I'm not yet a miner. I have a fork of litecoin that I've rebranded to bootycoin and have that working on my laptop. As I said my focus was more on figuring out the branding and messaging to partners before the technology since the technology isn't the real differentiator here. And yes, a premine of some amount is needed in order to pull off some of the marketing plans and partnerships. At the end of the day people can cry scam all they want about pre mines and what not but as you so adeptly pointed out there needs to be an incentive to actually work on the coin, and the only thing I can see is, just like shares in a company, you set some aside that's used to compensate the team and used for marketing and business development. My time is valuable and if I'm going to spend it here it needs to be with some semblance of a promise for a reward in the future. Otherwise I'll go work on something else.

In my few months of diving into this world I've seen lots of people decide to fork litecoin, rename it, and announce it here in these forums with really no amount of branding or planning at all. Just some dudes wasting lots of time building something that nobody's gonna care about. That's why when you look at the bootycoin site you see that what's there is a landing page that's focused on the differentiation which is the branding and the focus on merchants. If you get merchants on board you'll get the miners, period. I guess you truly have no way of knowing if I'm just another scammer or not, especially as my identity is hidden here, mostly because of the nature of the coin and not wanting to attach myself to an adult focused coin (if that's how it ends up going), just yet. Once it's successful then of course I'd be more open to revealing my true identity.

Regardless I can tell you that I'm in the bay area (California), work in tech, am not hurting for money, and don't really need to do this project. I just happened to own the domain from a different failed experiment last summer and thought it'd be fun to launch a coin called bootycoin and immediately saw the potential for it to be a real thing. For you guys, and anyone that wants to be part of the community I can tell you that other than my identity I'm all about transparency. I simply can't help it given my libertarian and gold bug leanings. I'm a modern day Robin Hood of sorts that would love nothing more than to stick it to the establishment rent seekers and rejoice in justice.

My thoughts around how this currency should work is that you want a large number of coins like doge.. 69B is the first target (see what I did there?).. but with a little inflation 1-2% so as to encourage spending. There needs to be a way for everyone to easily gain access to receiving and spending the coin. So web wallets but perhaps with client side encryption like blockchain.info's wallets. A Twitter tip bot (@btybot... BTY is the symbol I picked) so that you can easily send and receive booty without being a techie. There needs to be an easy way for merchants to accept it and easily convert it to bitcoin but also with additional features that are enumerated on the site right now. I'd really like to investigate a way to make this CPU mineable so that it's accessible to everyone and open the door for javascript miners. Vertcoin seems like maybe a good coin to model for that, I dunno.

Look at the end of the day this is an experiment, like bitcoin itself really. The only way to differentiate at this point is to come up with a new technology or have a great marketing angle. There's the opportunity to do both here if we were to copy something like vertcoin and combine it with a great marketing angle like bootycoin. That's the hypothesis. Who's on board to see if that can be reality? :-)

I agree, I think these are the best next steps.

I really don't think keeping the name PirateCoin necessarily "endangers" us in being associated with the Pirate Party political movement.  In fact, I think it's probably best we distance ourselves from them entirely - if they want their own coin, they can (and should) make it and manage it themselves using their already-established democratic process.  I, too, had never heard of it until I read about it here.  Must not be particularly popular in the U.S.

Personally, I really dislike the idea of changing to Bootycoin.  There is already a sexy-pirate-themed BootyCoin (http://www.bootycoin.com).

I created a poll in the mail Alternative Cryptocurrency board, so we can vote and also to get the opinions of people who are crypt investors, but who are likely not tied to otherwise invested in the outcome

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/piratecoin-or-bootycoin-please-vote-524408

You put forward a convincing argument, I'll give you that.

Out of curiosity, are you a miner? Without premine bounties on offer how do you stand to gain from developing booty coin?

Ahoy ya scurvy dogs! There be nothin' preventin' Bootycoin from bein' a coin that's used for anything pirate related. It's what we pirates like to call a double entendre, which is something that instantly opens up tons of possibilities. If the pirate bay had a coin would it sound better if they had "pirate bay coin" or bootycoin? A pirate's treasure is booty, period. Any self respecting pirate seeks booty, spends it, trades in it... period. Just so happens that in the last 30 years a second definition of the word has appeared which also happens to fit quite well for a crypto currency.

I have plans for distribution that will make this thing go viral because of the fun nature. People *love* double entendres, especially ones related to sex. Just like sexcoin there's nothing inherently interesting or viral about a coin so obviously named "piratecoin".

As far as fat bouncing asses and such there can be adult.bootycoin.com and just plain old bootycoin.com where it's general purpose pirate. Honestly we really don't know who would be interested in taking part. But that's part of the fun. The branding can all be tongue in cheek bootycoin with plain old pirates but you can toe the line of sex with it if you like. Just how Disney hides sexual innuendo in their films for adults that caters to kids.

Look, I'm an entrepreneur at the core and I'm looking for opportunity. I simply don't see the greater opportunity in something called piratecoin. It's stale, predictable, and doesn't lend itself to spreading. Why was doge successful? Because it was fun. Now that's just a stupid meme that will be dead in a year and people will tire of that coin. Sex never gets old and neither does pirate speak apparently.

I was contacted about possibly merging Bootycoin with the Piratecoin community and honestly I think it's a great idea. But there has to be a recognition that bootycoin is actually a superior branding for a pirate themed crypto coin or else there's really no way to move forward I guess. Please don't take this as me saying that my idea or coin is better than yours, as I said I just look at what's possible and I just don't see the mass market potential for Piratecoin for the aforementioned reasons.

Now, I put forth the offer to the Piratecoin community to join up and realize the enormous potential in the branding with this coin. I've already been in contact with adult site owners that like the idea and are looking to get involved. I've also spoken with an investment team that helps alts launch and evaluates them and they think that there's real potential for this to be the first mainstream alt coin. That said there's a ton of work to do and a community needs to be built to truly support it. I've focused on the branding part of it and reaching out to partners because simply forking litecoin, throwing it out there with a new name and no branding, is simply not interesting at all. There has to be something unique about it, and here it's all about the double entendre and sex angle. People love plausible deniability and this coin gives you that. Send a little booty to that cutie that you have your eye on. "What, it's just pirate related coin? What's the big deal?" But the subtlety of sex is there.

So I leave it up to you guys. I'm going to press on with or without you, but I'd rather have you scurvy dogs on board because you've shown the same passion for the theme and I think if you really look at the true potential and think about it you'll see what I'm talking about.

So what say ye... ya scurvy dogs? Arrrrr :-)

sry if i miss understood you...but it looked to me you wanted to say I'm lying...

I'm no lawyer but we have one that I could ask (which could take a while) and I don't really know if trademark is the right term in english...
I really only am stating my concurns here and do not want to intimidate anyone...

and it was my impression the developer already was disenchanted and only saw his opportunity to get out whilst at least to some degree keeping his face...

i also think beside the non marketing issue a real problem for the success of this coin was that there was no pre-ann...and that is also an issue hard to overcome...( i personally think only by getting the community to do massive give aways)
also i said the romantic version of pirate coin by which i mean that you can't expect a crypto to make it's way just by talking piraty...i mean yeah it's fun kind of but as soon as you are not an native english speaking person you'll gonna have a bad time talking that way yourself even more if your english is bad (then they probably won't even understand it)...i believe there has to be more to a crypto...

and the political issue really didn't take up that much time up to now...

I know you're not lying, but Trademark law in whatever country would only protect the trademark as it involves the entity claiming the trademark... if PirateCoin called itself a political party, then maybe... but doubtful it would hold up in any court anywhere under those circumstances, certainly not in the USA.

As "PirateCoin" is specifically a cryptocurrency, no trademark infringement exists on any level.

Besides, it would be pretty ironic for the Pirate Party, who advocates freely sharing intellectual property, to go after a Crypto for trademark infringement... think about it...

And as to your "pirate coin has proven itself useless as a concept to get people involved", that's because there was no marketing plan and the whole thing got sidetracked by the worry about the Pirate Party, which is seriously a non-issue that got the developer disenchanted.

The developer gave me the login info, I shared it with bobdylan and if he's not going to reflect the will of the community and keep the coin as it was intended to be, then he needs to return that information to me.

If he's not willing to, we'll just get new social media accounts.  But hopefully he'll do the right thing.

We need to get the ball rolling, and I thought that's what we were doing when I gave bobdylan the login info so that he could update the website to show the updated pool and exchange information, which he did and I thought it was all good.  Then I login the next day and find a new coin design and "mission statement" that completely deviated from anything having to do with what we've been mining/working towards.

I would like that info back, please.